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hoohaa Jan 2, 2009 09:14 PM

hello...chef and sommelier visiting from toronto, canada really need some advice as to where to eat and drink in phoenix! please help! thanks

  1. Seth Chadwick Jan 2, 2009 10:43 PM

    Noca is the best bet in town right now and for good reason. Excellent food, stellar service, very reasonable pricing for what you get.

    If you want something very unique to the Southwest, I would try Kai at Wild Horse Pass Resort. You will pay an arm and a leg for dinner, but it is worth every penny. It is high-end Native American cuisine.

    Binkley's is outstanding. Get the full tasting course and savor the evening.

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    Binkley's
    6920 E. Cave Creek Rd., Cave Creek, AZ 85331

    Kai
    5594 W. Wildhorse Pass Blvd, Chandler, AZ 85226

    Noca
    3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

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      crsin Jan 2, 2009 11:44 PM

      Good advice. I'd also hit Cowboy Ciao in Scottsdale...one of my (and many other's) favorite spots in town. As another option, you can visit Kazimierz next door--their "sister" winebar, with the same extensive wine list.

      1. re: Seth Chadwick
        Rubee Jan 3, 2009 12:08 PM

        Second Seth's great choices.

        I haven't been to Kai yet, but it is at the top of my list for this year and we have plans next month.

        Binkley's and Noca are in my top three, along with Quiessence.

        I'm a bit surprised that the above poster mentions "not hearing good things about Noca". I think she may be new to the Board as there have been many positive reviews, including my raves. Here are a few comments. Have a great time in Phoenix!

        NOCA (phx) opening this week
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/534503

        PHX: Congrats to NOCA, Eliot Wexler, et al. Seftel's review 11.19.08
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/573712

        Another Positive Noca Review(PHX)
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/576000

        Noca - Third Time's a Charm
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/576264

        first time at NOCA tonight. what shall i order?
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/584477

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        Quiessence
        6106 S 32nd Street, Phoenix, AZ 85042

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          Sherri Jan 3, 2009 12:43 PM

          Thanks for taking the time to post the links, Rubee. I, too, scratched my head with jennyb's response "haven't been to noca but haven't heard good things" since I've posted a couple of times about great noca experience.

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        Sherri Jan 3, 2009 03:36 PM

        Hoohaa, there's a post by jenneyb which contains numerous mis-statements.

        Among them is the following example:
        "barrio cafe is worth checking out as well, as i figure you'd be interested in mexican, although it is mexico city mexican."
        However, Barrio's chef /co-owner Silvana Salcido-Esparza describes her food as " a little neighborhood eatery providing authentic southern Mexico cuisine ...." This cafe is one of a kind, a treasure, and very different from what one normally associates with "Mexican Food", but it is not big city, Mexico City food.

        The Phoenix area is large geographically and diverse in its offerings. Perhaps if you tell us where you are staying, what you'd like to try, budget, etc. we can offer some very specific suggestions. Hope that you enjoy your visit.

        1. ejs1492 Jan 3, 2009 03:54 PM

          I would strongly recommend Fine's Cellar. Michael Fine is one of the most approachable yet knowledgable wine guys around, and the food is top notch. For a chef and sommelier duo, I think Fine's would be a home run.

          I, too, would heartily recommend Noca and I **HAVE** been there...many times. ;-)

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          Fine's Cellar
          7051 E 5th Ave Ste M, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

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          1. re: ejs1492
            winedubar Jan 3, 2009 06:02 PM

            i think fine's is a home run, too, ejs..here's a link to their website. note their awards for their wine and service

            http://www.finescellar.com/

            1. re: winedubar
              ejs1492 Jan 3, 2009 07:39 PM

              Yep, I've been to Fine's many times and never had a miss. Granted, I'm not a wine guy like Hunt is, but their recommendations have always been great. I have no problem with their markup and theink they're entitled to make a fair profit.

              Calling it "one of the biggest Jokes (sic) in town" is a bit of a stretch, although your experiences may certainly have been different than mine, Slow1.

              Personally....I like the stemless glasses. Nice change of pace, and I like to defy convention. Especially with reds, I don't think they detract from the wine at all and I find them nice to hold. But that's a whole other thread, of course.....

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                hoohaa Jan 8, 2009 08:29 AM

                thanks for all the great suggestions guys! will report back upon my return to the icy north!
                cheers!

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