Post dim-sum headache - Why? How can I avoid it in the future?
- Dave MP Dec 29, 2008 05:37 PM
Yesterday, a fellow hound and I had dim sum at one of the well-known SF Bay Area places. We had an excellent meal at about 11 AM. Neither of us had had anything else to eat prior to this meal.
We ate a lot of food, and the food seemed to be of very high quality. We did probably eat more than we needed to, since we were quite stuffed when we left.
After dim sum, we did some shopping, and then had some frozen yogurt. Then we parted ways.....at about 3:00, I developed a headache, which persisted throughout the day. When I spoke to the fellow hound today, I found out that she too had a headache (a migraine, in fact) all afternoon and evening. She also told me that this has happened to her before - i.e. every time she eats at this particular restaurant, she ends up with a headache.
I did some research into topics like MSG, etc. and found some old chowhound posts....I am not posting this to re-hash old topics. What I am trying to do is piece together some of the factors that led to my headache....and then try to come up with some solutions that will allow me to continue eating dim sum here without having any headaches.
Here are some thoughts about what might have contributed to a headache. Perhaps it was a combination of things. Any thoughts on this?
A) MSG - We mostly ate pretty standard dim sum items. I wouldn't necessarily think they all would have MSG, but I don't know. I eat out a lot, at all kinds of restaurants, so I don't think I'm particularly sensitive to MSG. I probably eat it all the time, and I don't usually get headaches like this. So I don't think it's solely to blame.
B) Tyramines - Our meal would definitely have been high in tyramines, which may trigger headaches or migraines as well. This post talks about that topic: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5112...
C) High fat content of food
E) Lack of caffeine - both of us usually drink coffee (though I don't usually drink much). And we had chrysanthemum tea at dim sum.
So perhaps the simple answer to all of this is to just eat less at this restaurant, and have a cup of coffee before I go (or have jasmine tea). But I am curious to see if anyone has had similar experiences who might have some solutions. I certainly do not intend to give up dim sum.
Maybe it's as you suggest, it's actually a combination of all the factors you've listed. And more likely than not it was not one individual thing in isolation that caused your headache.
Why don't you try to list out the dim sum that you had? May be a certain type of food caused your headache.
My aunt has headache whenever she has soy-based product (tofu, soy milk, etc.). My mom is sensitive to MSG. So listing out the food that you had might help you to find out what food caused your headache (if any)
Lack of caffeine is a common cause of headaches. I'm a two-cups-in-the-morning person and if I miss my morning fix I get a really wicked headache. In fact some "headache remedies" (I think Excederin) have caffeine as an ingredient since it will "fix" caffeine withdrawl headaches in a flash.
The last (and only) time I had dim sum I got an awful migraine. I put it off as MSG sensitivity (before I get flamed, YES I cannot eat packaged soups, flavored snack chips, some aged cheeses and mushrooms, etc. - it's not in my head!)
I've also gotten headaches from other MSG-free Asian foods with soy sauce, so I've deduced that I'm a little sensitive to tyramine as well.
I'll guess your headache was a combo of things.
i am dave mp's occasional partner in dim sum crime, and the other hound mentioned in his post.
the weird thing is this appears to be a place-specific problem--we've only visited this dim sum restaurant twice, and both times i've developed stunningly horrible migraines afterward. caffeine is not the problem for me.
both of us eat chinese food lots, and dim sum more than occasionally, and never get sick, so it seems like they're doing something at this restaurant that is unusual.
i would say that the food at this restaurant seems very rich--and maybe they're adding more MSG than is typical?
It can be used to relieve headaches of a certain type. These headaches are usually accompanied by vertigo and stiff neck.
Chrysanthamum tea is a cooling drink, frequently drunk in the summertime to cool somebody down. In Oriental Medicine, eating/drinking a lot of cold things can engender a headache as the Stomach channel travels up to the head (hence the brain freeze I mention with eating ice cream down below). Cold blocks flow of energy, leading to pain.