OK, wine experts, what is a good one to drink daily?
Greetings to all, new member here, came from another forum that mentioned this placce
Seeing duck down's post about wine , and the enthusiasm for other questions , i have one
I am also a wine newbie but have been watching alot about it on TV and definitely enjoy drinking
aside from this,doctor's are saying that a glass of wine every day is good for your cardiovascular system among other things
so as someone that has Never had any experience with wines (i mean sure i've had random red wines at times, usually nothing very good) , what are your suggestions for one for me to keep around my house? multiple kinds are fine; i will buy a bottle, drink it over a few days, and am open to trying all new kinds. just need ones that are good for a starting wine palatte and isn't neccessarily for pairing with food but enjoying on its own!
thank you , and as ducker's post, this is for wines at the LCBO only so please keep in toronto forum
thanks All and have a great New Year!
when I was just starting out drinking wine, I found it helpful to attend wine tastings. Not sure what the laws are for tasting up there, but many retailers will pour tastings, especially on weekends, to introduce new wines or to introduce newbies to the joys of the grape. You can try lots of different wines doing this, and figure out what you really enjoy. Chances are, your palate will evolve, but it's a place to start
there is a great book that is Canadian called Had a Glass. It is their opinion on the best wines of 2009 under $20 (CAD). The guys who wrote it are from B.C. and with some searching you should be able to find most of them. I am in Alberta and have tried a few from the '08 book, and was happy. a decent resource to have on hand.
here is a link to the book:
Depends what you can afford, in any case, keep it simple, keep it cheap.
The main issue, as other stated, is to keep the wine good for more than 2, 3 days; you could try to get wines in half-bottles
reds/whites from the Loire region (touraine)
reds from the Beaujolais region (beaujolais-village, chiroubles, ...)
reds/whites from south-america (chili, argentine)
Personally, I don't drink wine everyday, and I don't miss it; don't think that having a glass of wine a day is better or worse than going to the gym or have an active and healthy lifestyle; I don't drink for those reasons.
I was in your shoes about 5 or 6 years ago and it has since become an passion as my wine collection has grown to over 300+ bottles... so be forewarned! ;-)
The largest and best LCBO stores are Summerhill, Queen's Quay, Bayview Village and the new one near Yonge/Lawrence. They also have the best selections of premium wines sold in their Vintages Section, as well as tasting "rooms" where you can try (for a minimum fee) before you buy.
I'm not sure which other board(s) you came from but, with all due respect to fellow Chowhounders, this is far from the best board for wine knowledge. Google Wine
Spectator and visit their board where you'll usually find a few active LCBO threads.
As far as suggestions, I'd start with Australia, in particular Barossa, for red beginning with the bigger names such as d'Arenberg (Laughing Magpie, Galvo's Garage, etc.), Penfolds (Bin 28, 128, 389, etc.), Torbreck (Old Vines, Woodcutters etc.), Kilikanoon (Killerman's run, Medley, etc.) and others that a Vintages Product Consultant may recommend. Aussie wines tend to be fruitier and more to the liking of wine newbies.
Besides Aussies, other regions that are generally good deals at LCBO are Spain and Southern Rhone. For Southren Rhone blends, unless money is no issue, I'd start with wines from Cote du Rhone, Vacqueyras & Gigondas before moving up to Châteauneuf-du-Pape. For Italy, I'd try wines from Tuscany (e.g., Chianti) and Valpolicella (especially Ripasso).
For whites, I'd start with New Zealand and South Africa for dry wines and Germany and Alsace for sweeter rieslings and gewurztraminer. Italian Pinot Grigio (or French Pinot Gris) are usually newbie favorites as well.
If your one drink a day were before dinner, I would recommend a palete opening white. Lighter wines that won't interfere with the dinner to come such as an Ontario Riesling, Loire Sauvignon Blanc, or Italian Pinot Grigio are reasonable choices.
If it's to be after dinnner, then yes a hearty Chateauneuf du Pape or Amarone would be a fine finish and a nice warmer.
You can get devices of the manual kind that will, to some degree, remove the air from the bottle. They're not too bad. Try the Kitchen and Glass Place at 840 Yonge north of Bloor for a good one, although I think you can find hand pumps pretty much anywhere now.
Don't concern yourself with what you should and shouldn't like. Find your own way and develop your palate at your own pace. The most important thing to remember about wine is the wine itself isn't important. It's there for you to enjoy and share and relax with.
i'm no wine expert either, but wondered if you had friends who were interested in doing wine tastings (informally). i've done this before and it's a great excuse to get together, plus you get to try different wines and possibly not have too many unfinished bottles. and if there's any winos in the group, maybe you'll find something you enjoy as well. the lcbo also does tastings or classes of some sort that might be a good venue to ask questions.
I commend jayt90's advice to get to know your Vintages person. Showing an interest and providing some feedback can get you a lot of useful tips on the current offerings.
In general, I'd suggest the southern hemisphere and the US west coast for a red wine newbie: Argentinian Malbec , Australian Shiraz and California Zinfandel tend to be big and fruity wines without too much "edge".
The trouble with the one-glass-a-day routine is keeping the rest potable. Red wines famously don't last very long once opened (the nice fruit flavors and aromas evaporate leaving a bitter, sour or just watery fluid.) They can be kept under nitrogen with one of the commercial gadgets, but that's a bit expensive, too.
Start with something big and rewarding, such as a 2004 Chateauneuf de Pape. Make notes, read all about it, and refer to it as a benchmark as you work way down to less expensive wines. Read the Vintages magazine at bedtime, and make friends with a Vintages rep, on their quiet days. You;ll soon find your niche wines.