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3 Guys - one from NYC, one from Dallas, one from Ohio - need dinner. Where?

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UpperWestFam Dec 22, 2008 01:58 PM

Have two friends coming in first week of January. They're staying at the Helmsley 42nd St. - I'm on the West Side.

Need ideas for dinner - not a steakhouse. Would like to (unfortunately) stay somewhere in Midtown area - west side?

Was thinking bar Americain, but my Dallas friend would know it's a fraud!

Maybe seafood? Looking for a fun place - loud is fine, good bar, etc...

Don't want to get too price - not in THIS economy!

Thanks, Chowhounders!

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  1. steve h. RE: UpperWestFam Dec 22, 2008 02:12 PM

    why is bar americain a fraud?

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      italianagambino RE: steve h. Dec 23, 2008 05:11 AM

      Yeah not too sure, but I happen to like it there.

      Since you want to stay midtown, west, you can go to AJ Maxwells
      http://www.ajmaxwells.com/
      You can even go to the Oyster Bar in Grand Central
      http://www.pjclarkes.com/lincoln/
      or PJ Clarke's at LincolnCenter
      http://www.pjclarkes.com/lincoln/

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        italianagambino RE: italianagambino Dec 23, 2008 05:17 AM

        Or Even Kellari Taverna
        http://www.kellari.us/

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        UpperWestFam RE: steve h. Dec 23, 2008 05:25 AM

        why a fraud? Well, I think that since my friend has lived in Dallas for the last 15 years, he would know good Southwestern style food - not what Bobby F offers!

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          steve h. RE: UpperWestFam Dec 23, 2008 07:14 AM

          uwf,

          bar americain is not southwestern style food. you might be thinking of mesa grill. bar americain is a riff on an american-inspired brasserie. give the seafood cocktails, the mussels, the house-made chips and the hanger steak a shot and you'll see what i mean. the seafood platter and the ham tastings are pretty good, too.

          the room is large and drop-dead gorgeous. the bar is a terrific place to hang out. nothing "southwestern" about it at all.

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            UpperWestFam RE: steve h. Dec 23, 2008 07:52 AM

            Steve - sounds like a plan!

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            RGR RE: UpperWestFam Dec 23, 2008 07:58 AM

            I am not a fan of Bar Americain since the one meal we had there was pretty awful. However, unlike Mesa Grill, B.A.'s menu does not focus on Southwestern-style food a la Flay but rather on what he views as typical American food found in many regions throughout the U.S.

        2. ChileRelleno RE: UpperWestFam Dec 23, 2008 03:55 AM

          "fun, loud, good bar and seafood" makes me think of lure fishbar in soho

          http://www.lurefishbar.com/

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            LeahBaila RE: ChileRelleno Dec 23, 2008 05:05 AM

            That's a good choice...the food isn't the most oustanding or cheap in town, but it sounds like a good option for you all.

            www.thelunchbelle.com

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