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bizzlewillits Dec 5, 2008 08:33 AM

I'm coming to San Diego for the Holiday Bowl and will be staying a couple of extra days to explore the city. I'm looking for recs on the best pizza - Think New York style, with fresh mozzarella, and thin crust. I will be staying at the Hardrock Hotel in the Gaslamp District, but I will have access to a car, so accessibility will not be a problem.
Thanks in advance!

  1. chris2269 Dec 5, 2008 08:56 AM

    If you do a search on this board under "best Pizza in San Diego" you'll get a few threads on the subject

    Here are some recommendations I pulled from the thread but search it yourself cause there's a lot of good info from folks.

    I am not a Pizza expert I just wanted to get you some information before the usual (and sad) posts of "there is no good pizza in San Diego" and "There is no good Pizza on the west coast" crowd starts posting.

    Pizzeria Luigi
    1137 25th St San Diego CA

    Ciros Pizzaria
    536 Market St San Diego CA

    City Pizzeria
    1125 6th Ave San Diego CA

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      stevewag23 Dec 5, 2008 11:04 AM

      Bronx Pizza Hands down. Undisputed Pizza Champ of San Diego.

      Ciro's - Imitation NY Slice. Terrible. The only people that like this pizza are people that come from small backwaters where there only other experience with pizza is convection oven chain pizza. The brains behind this place are the same brains that brought us the crumbling nightclub empire of Stingaree, Side Bar, Universal (all going out of biz, or are already closed.

      City Pizzeria - mediocre at best.

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        mimosa Dec 5, 2008 11:18 AM

        I dispute it! Don't really care for the sauce nor the crust at Bronx.

        Luigi's for me. And lately we've been getting slices (thin) at A Sicilian Thing and they're awesome.

        Have yet to try Basic but based on comments here, it's on the list.

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          MrKrispy Dec 5, 2008 03:06 PM

          I tried to keep it close to downtown, but yeah Sicilian thing is pretty tasty and close to some good beer places in North Park (Toronado, Ritual)

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            mimosa Dec 5, 2008 04:13 PM

            Did you know Toronado will let you bring pizza in? We do it all the time as I'm not a huge fan of their fare (except for the beer, of course!)

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              MrKrispy Dec 9, 2008 10:28 AM

              oooh I did NOT know that, I don't always want their sandwiches so that is great to know. Do we need to donate a slice to the bartender? haha

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              Bobierto Feb 4, 2009 08:32 AM

              We tried Sicilian Thing last night. Fun place and the price was right, hooray for the continuing growth on that 30th Street corridor. The food didn't blow my hair back but was fine. Definitely should be on your quick-n-good rotation.

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            Josh Dec 5, 2008 12:27 PM

            Meh, Bronx is far from hands down best. Crust at Bronx is crunchy, not chewy. Bronx is good, but Luigi's crust is superior, possessing the chewiness that makes real NYC pizza so enjoyable. Luigi's also has a more interesting range of topping choices, and a fantastic selection of beer.

            Ciro's must have declined a lot in the years since I've eaten there. I remember it being a decent enough slice if you were in that neighborhood and wanted something cheap and quick. Couldn't hold a candle to Bronx or Luigi, though.

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              DougOLis Dec 5, 2008 04:41 PM

              I'll give you that Luigi's crust is superior to Bronx's but I really don't care that much for the sauce at Luigi's. It's always tasted a bit tinny to me.

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                Bobierto Dec 8, 2008 08:20 AM

                I am on your page ... Bronx used to be the ONLY game in town. I would point east coasters there and they would THANKTHANKTHANK me (I'm from Boston). Anyway Bronx has gotten a little lax and Luigi's has taken away the prize. Better pizza, great beer selection, more congenial location ... (try Turf Club across the street for the best cheap steak in SD - they use quality meat and you cook it yourself, plus their martinis are great). Friends who just moved here from Boston are fans of Lefty's in North Park but I haven't tried it yet.

                Note - to get to Bronx from your hotel, drive north on First Avenue, maybe two miles to Washington Street. Take a right and Bronx is on that block on your right (also check out El Cuervo for great burritos across the street). To get to Luigi's from your hotel, drive east on C Street (watch the trolleys, you may want to just go east on Broadway instead, one block south of C). Then turn left on 25th street and Luigi's is about two blocks up on your right.

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                  DougOLis Dec 8, 2008 10:48 AM

                  Turf Supper Club just closed that location and moved to La Mesa (now the Riviera Supper Club & Turquoise Room)

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                    MrKrispy Dec 9, 2008 10:29 AM

                    WHOA I didn't know this, that really sucks. Well, good for La Mesa I guess

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                      jmtreg Dec 14, 2008 12:01 AM

                      The owner of the building saw how much money they were making and decided to take over operation of the Turf.

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                      beth1 Dec 13, 2008 04:08 PM

                      When did this happen? I'm sad. Is the Krakatoa still in the same place?

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                        Bobierto Dec 29, 2008 01:45 PM

                        This news freaks me out! They were an institution! If it is true that they were run out of the space and someone else is running something similar in the same space, then I would have trouble going there. So, please someone confirm!

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                    Deanna456 Jan 5, 2009 05:21 PM

                    I like Bronx Pizza so I agree it is towards the top of the list or at the top. It is very similar to my memory of NYC pizza. I'm not saying it is the same...it is similar. (I'm a native NYer but have been in CA for a looooooooooong time.)

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                      stevewag23 Feb 7, 2009 08:07 PM

                      Bronx Pizza now delivers.

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                    MrKrispy Dec 5, 2008 09:03 AM

                    based on your details I would say Basic downtown or Luigi's in Golden Hill

                    1. Josh Dec 5, 2008 09:13 AM

                      Haven't been to Basic, but heard good things about it.

                      Luigi's is definitely my favorite, and is not far from where you're staying.

                      Ciro's is in walking distance from your hotel, but isn't as good as Luigi (though it is still good).

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                        Beach Chick Dec 5, 2008 09:37 AM

                        Love Love Love Basic!
                        Have had great pizza at Napoleone Pizza House in National City but it's been quite awhile.. Etna's Pizza on El Cajon Blvd is quite good too.

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                          JRSD Dec 5, 2008 09:43 AM

                          I enjoy Basic as well. It is New Haven-style rather than New York style, but is thin crust with good Mozz.

                          Of the recs below, I would order them Luigi, Basic, Ciros. I am not a huge fan of City.

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                            smoothy Dec 5, 2008 10:53 AM

                            I liked Luigi's in the beginning but now think their cheese isn't very good, too oily. If they used a better cheese then it'd be the best in SD for pies by the slice.

                            Now that I've tried Basic, I think they have the best pizzas in SD.

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                              DougOLis Dec 5, 2008 11:18 AM

                              Bronx
                              Luigi
                              Basic

                              In that order

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                                The Old Man Dec 5, 2008 12:28 PM

                                I'm looking for recs on the best pizza - Think New York style, with fresh mozzarella, and thin crust..."

                                Think, this is San Diego, there is no good pizza.

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                                  Beach Chick Dec 5, 2008 12:46 PM

                                  cranky..
                                  have you had Basic?
                                  We are talking SD...NOT Chi-town..which has some of the best pizza!
                                  Bronx Pizza, imo, is way overated..crust and sauce are marginal but they do have their loyal fans
                                  .

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                                    The Old Man Dec 5, 2008 01:12 PM

                                    Where is Basic? The earlier posters should remember to give addresses for the OP since they are from out of town.

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                                      Beach Chick Dec 5, 2008 01:17 PM

                                      I think you would like it..
                                      ; )

                                      www.barbasic.com

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                                    Josh Dec 5, 2008 03:19 PM

                                    Luigi is good pizza. So is Pizzicato. And I've eaten at Di Fara in Brooklyn, so there.

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                                    Cathy Dec 5, 2008 02:11 PM

                                    www.abrooklypizzeria.com

                                    It is very close to the Qualcomm stadium in a small strip mall (with a Souplantation anchor) and has had a great neighborhood following. For years.

                                    1. kare_raisu Dec 5, 2008 02:28 PM

                                      May sound weird but Whole Food La jolla makes delicious pizza

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                                        Josh Dec 5, 2008 03:20 PM

                                        True

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                                          daantaat Dec 30, 2008 08:18 PM

                                          not so wierd--I think they do a good job. The Las Vegas Whole Foods has good pizza by the pound too!

                                        2. jmtreg Dec 5, 2008 08:31 PM

                                          Basic does a pretty decent pie, and does the weird toppings - like eggplant. Bronx is definitely New York style, and the guys there will make fun of you. Luigi's in Golden Hill is good. City Pizzeria really is decent. Ciro's is meh, but it'll do in a pinch. Sicilian thing is very, very good. Wine Steals (oddly enough) has pretty decent pizza.

                                          Now, outside of New York style pizza, Solunto's on India street makes a true Sicilian style pizza (sauce on top) akin to Detroit and Jersey City.

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                                            keena Dec 5, 2008 10:58 PM

                                            Are any of you actually from NY? Bronx pizza is very good and is most certainly NY style. Along those lines, Liberty Pizza in PB is NY style and attitude. Yes, none of this is Little Italy NYC, but these are damn good and pretty close given the predilection for pineapple, avocado, etc pizza here in So Cal. A bigger chalenge would be to find decent Chicago style deep dish out here.

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                                              jmtreg Dec 6, 2008 12:23 AM

                                              My family's from Jersey. In fact, my mom still makes pizza in the Jersey City style (round pie, sauce on top). The guys at Bronx taught the guys at Luigi's and Sicilian Thing, and there's one other place in the East Village, but I've never eaten there. To that end, the Bronx Pizza is certainly the most influential pizzeria we've had in awhile.

                                              If you're looking for Chicago style pizza, Lefty's on 30th St. does both deep dish and thin style Chicago pizza.

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                                                mikec Dec 9, 2008 01:55 PM

                                                I'd highly recommend getting Lefty's "stuffed" pizza, which I think is only available as a whole pie, and is about twice as thick as their regular deep dish pizza.

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                                                  oerdin Dec 11, 2008 06:53 AM

                                                  Man, I love lefty's stuffed pizza but I'm sure just one slice has over 1000 calories. When they say stuffed they mean it.

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                                                    Ewilensky Dec 11, 2008 07:32 AM

                                                    True. My wife and I limit our Lefty's visit to once every six months -- not for lack of desire -- no, more like excess of waistline.

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                                                The Old Man Dec 6, 2008 06:28 AM

                                                A place in Carlsbad is going to attempt Chicago style deep dish. I'm know I'm being petty, but I won't go to a place called "Grubby Pizza."

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                                                  JRSD Dec 6, 2008 08:46 AM

                                                  Bronx is fine, but in terms of comparing it to what is in NY why Little Italy? Outside of Lombardi's the food in Little Italy NYC is generally not very good. Why ask if others are from NY then throw out such a reference?

                                                  Personally, I like Luigi's better than Bronx and it is nice that there is actually a debate instead of Bronx being the only edible pizza around.

                                                  I only had deep dish in Chicago once, but I thought that Lefty's on 30th made a very good pie.

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                                                    Ewilensky Dec 8, 2008 09:30 AM

                                                    Luigi's is our goto place for NY style.

                                                    Lefty's is our goto place for Chicago style.

                                                    Between the two, there is not much room for anyplace else.

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                                                      dietndesire Dec 8, 2008 03:59 PM

                                                      Yes, comparing to Little Italy is hardly a good thing, though SD probably falls short of even that. Lombardi's has fallen to unacceptable levels.
                                                      Bronx was OK when I had it a few years ago but that was it. Not bad, certainly not GOOD.
                                                      Old Man was/is right. Ain't happening, unfortunately.
                                                      Maybe, I will try Luigi's sometime when I am insane with desperation, since it is getting the most kudos here.

                                                      Deep dish? Ha, that is funny.

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                                                        The Old Man Dec 9, 2008 09:15 AM

                                                        The joke is that the alleged "Chicago style deep dish" pizza restaurant with the worst restaurant name since a hamburger restaurant named for an insect--Grubby Pizza--is opening in the kiss-of-death site that the ECR Grill was in.

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                                                          MrKrispy Dec 9, 2008 03:33 PM

                                                          hmmm I think Scootz is still a worse name, I picture a dog rubbing its butt on the ground every time. :)

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                                                            dietndesire Dec 9, 2008 03:49 PM

                                                            No, no, that would be Scootch, which would be appropriate for most "pizza".

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                                                              kare_raisu Dec 9, 2008 05:14 PM

                                                              haha

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                                                                The Old Man Dec 11, 2008 10:06 AM

                                                                Yes, Scootz is bad, but is it worse than Boll Weevil?

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                                                                littlestevie Dec 11, 2008 09:55 AM

                                                                Grubby's opens tomorrow. I'm sure you'll be there!

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                                                                  The Old Man Dec 11, 2008 10:02 AM

                                                                  We got a $7 off coupon. It may be enough to get me in there once. BTW, in the mall, the Von's, that's been getting killed for years since the Albertson's opened across La Costa, is closing. They are have a 50% off sale. Last night there was a line of people just trying to get a cart.

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                                                                    littlestevie Dec 15, 2008 09:02 AM

                                                                    Grubby's did not open this weekend. A sign out in front said they had permittng issues. I am guessing liquor permits, cuz they still have the liquor permit application in the window. Couldn't they open and just not serve beer and wine? Not a good omen.

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                                                                      The Old Man Dec 15, 2008 09:43 AM

                                                                      I wouldn't think it would matter if they had beer or not, since most of their business will probably be carry out and people could also eat there without alcohol for a week or two.

                                                                      Perhaps they don't have the place grubby enough yet?

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                                                                        Pablo Dec 19, 2008 07:54 AM

                                                                        Maybe they are too busy trying to open Senor Grubby's in Carlsbad! I also just noticed there is also a Grubby's Diner in Oceanside! Is Grubby the new theme?

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                                                                          littlestevie Dec 19, 2008 08:10 AM

                                                                          I never made the connection until now. Maybe the Grubby family is starting a whole Grubby empire up in north county. Is Grubby Sushi next?

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                                                                        Cathy Dec 15, 2008 10:08 AM

                                                                        Did you notice an "A' from the Department of Health in the front window? If not all of their conditions are met, it can't open...

                                                                        Also the local Fire Department has had to do a safety check...door access, distance of stove from wall, wall being fireproof, sprinkler systems working....

                                                                        It isn't just a liquor permit to open a restaurant out here...

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                                                                  Josh Dec 9, 2008 10:43 AM

                                                                  Luigi is good. Seriously.

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                                                                    SaltyRaisins Dec 9, 2008 05:55 PM

                                                                    A resounding second for Luigi. A nice pie that is a friendly compromise between Italo-American and just plain good. Especially the artichoke heart with macchie of nice marinara. Better re-toasted out of the case than fresh, though.

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                                                                  Wino Jan 5, 2009 09:25 AM

                                                                  So, which Luigi's are you all talking about?

                                                                  There is Luigi's on 25th and Luigi's at the Beach, in Mission Beach.

                                                                  Which one? Are they related, is one better than the other?

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                                                                    mimosa Jan 5, 2009 12:03 PM

                                                                    The one in Golden Hill is the best. I don't think there is any relation between the two. There is a new location opening soon next to Eclipse Chocolat on El Cajon Blvd/Arkansas which I believe is related to the GH location.

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                                                                      Wino Jan 5, 2009 02:07 PM

                                                                      Cool, thanks to both of you, I'll be sure to hit this spot soon.

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                                                                      SaltyRaisins Jan 5, 2009 01:26 PM

                                                                      I speak of the one in Golden Hill. Not sure about any relationship with the MB one.

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                                                                bizzlewillits Dec 8, 2008 11:51 AM

                                                                Thanks for all of the heated suggestions! I will let you know where I go and how it turns out.

                                                                1. ibstatguy Dec 8, 2008 02:42 PM

                                                                  Napoleone's in National City

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                                                                    maggersmagoo Dec 12, 2008 01:45 PM

                                                                    Not near downtown, but I tried Pizza Port this weekend in Solana Beach. I thought it was some of the best pizza I've had in San Diego.

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                                                                      jmtreg Dec 12, 2008 11:40 PM

                                                                      Really? Now don't get me wrong, Pizza Port isn't awful, but the beer is a hell of a lot better than the pizza.

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                                                                        Bobierto Dec 29, 2008 01:46 PM

                                                                        I second that. I have only been to the Carlsbad location but the pizza was just so-so. Fun place and great beer selection though.

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                                                                        MrKrispy Dec 13, 2008 09:22 AM

                                                                        Pizza Port has the only non-thin crust pizza I like. Awesome place (except for the 1000 kids running around haha).

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                                                                          ginael Dec 13, 2008 09:58 AM

                                                                          I'm with jmtreg. Can't imagine PIzza Port being the best pizza in SD. I guess they're the only one with the combination of decent pizza and great beer selection. Surely it isn't for their atmosphere either. I'd rather get take-out from Luigi's or Lefty's and have beer at home.

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                                                                            planetjeffy Dec 21, 2008 02:03 AM

                                                                            Pizza Port's pizza is mushy in the middle. After a few beers, who cares. Bongiorno's pizza in Solana Beach off of Stevens is the best pizza I've had in SD. Traditional crust and pies, plus some weird toppings if you want them. Their artichoke pizza is great. Oggi's in Encinitas is good if you ask for the thin crust. Also, Besta Wan in Cardiff has good pizza.

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                                                                        normalheightsfoodie Dec 15, 2008 10:43 AM

                                                                        We are fans for Sicilian thing and Bronx. Both are similar in nature and choices. Sicilian Think also offers Siscilian style pizza which is very good. It is thick, but very different than Chicago style pizzas.

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                                                                          srk Dec 16, 2008 05:32 PM

                                                                          I really like the environment and the food at Basic. I think that's a more unique San Diego experience than going to Bronx Pizza. Plus, you can walk there from your hotel and they've got some good beers on tap!

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                                                                            foodieBruce Dec 21, 2008 02:16 AM

                                                                            I lived in the east but grew up in Chicago. I never understand how anyone eats NY style. I agree that Bronx is the closest, which is why I don't like it. For Chicago style, Lefty's in North Park is the ONLY choice. Great stuffed and deep dish pizza. Also features sausage, which is much more chicago, as opposed to pepperoni, which is much more east coast.

                                                                            1. kare_raisu Dec 21, 2008 09:09 AM

                                                                              Just a FYI
                                                                              Just South of Belmont Park there is a Brazilian owned and operated Pizzeria called Capri. I need to get over there and ask if they have any special offerings. I do know they have the famous Pao de Queijo and Guarana

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                                                                                dark helmet Dec 30, 2008 11:24 AM

                                                                                Grubby Pizza is open now. I haven't tried Luigi's but nothing beats a whole pie from Bronx for Me. I also like Round Table Pizza.

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                                                                                  Josh Dec 30, 2008 03:10 PM

                                                                                  Try Luigi and see if you still feel that way.

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                                                                                    SaltyRaisins Dec 30, 2008 11:22 PM

                                                                                    Latest news has it that Guy Fieri of the extreme haircut has done a bit on Luigi. Good for business and they certainly deserve the plug, but I wonder how long it will take the place to get back to normal now that he has pissed all over it.

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                                                                                      The Old Man Dec 31, 2008 10:39 AM

                                                                                      I'm not sure why my previous post was deleted. I don't understand this post. I don't know who Guy Fieri is, I don't know what "extreme haircut is, and I don't get why it appears to have gotten a positive mention and why that is a bad thing "pissed all over it."

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                                                                                        ChinoWayne Dec 31, 2008 11:30 AM

                                                                                        Google is your friened:

                                                                                        http://www.guyfieri.com/

                                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fieri

                                                                                        http://www.foodnetwork.com/guys-big-b...

                                                                                        And as an added bonus, you get to hear a Dulcolax ad at that last link courtesy of FoodNetwork.

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                                                                                          MrKrispy Jan 6, 2009 02:07 PM

                                                                                          great for Luigi's but not great for the people that like to go frequently as it becomes way overcrowded (happened to Hodad's too).

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                                                                                            ginael Jan 6, 2009 06:52 PM

                                                                                            It's such a pain to park there. It's hard to compare it to Lefty's, both places have different pies, each amazing in their own ways.

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                                                                                    Ted Styles Dec 31, 2008 10:19 PM

                                                                                    Had Grubby tonight. It was decent, especially for California. Mostly because they specifically didn't CUT the pizza for takeout, which means they at least know what's up there. Just like Lou's. Gotta let that shit sit. The sauce was a little on the marinara side, the crust was a little on the should-have-been-thin crust consistency. But overall, the place was pretty busy and since it's a mile away from my house, I'll pick it up (even though it looks like their thin crust is FAR FROM chicago style thin crust just by the "neopolitan" title or whatever it was.

                                                                                    BEST A WAN in Cardiff is the best for semi-chicago style thin crust--just make sure they cut it in squares. Their sausage is AMAZING--big on fennel. And of course, Lefty's is the best Chicago style everything in San Diego. Although I just had an amazing Italian Beef in the Sea-Tac Airport today.

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                                                                                      The Old Man Jan 1, 2009 12:17 PM

                                                                                      I find that all San Diego, and most CA, pizza has what I call sausage pellets instead of Chicago style chunks. How is Best-A-Wan's?

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                                                                                        Josh Jan 1, 2009 09:25 PM

                                                                                        Clearly you have never been to Lefty's.

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                                                                                          The Old Man Jan 2, 2009 09:31 AM

                                                                                          No, I'm going to have to go to get this out of the way. As I said in another thread, I've had many a miserable San Diego pizza so I tend not to make much of an effort to go to another. But there has been nothing but positive review for Lefty's so I will check it out this year.

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                                                                                            dietndesire Jan 2, 2009 06:00 PM

                                                                                            Old Man, you and I would get along well. Too bad it won't be over great pizza in SD.
                                                                                            Please go to Lefty's so it can be crossed off the list.
                                                                                            And how about this Filippi's Pizza Grotto in the posts below this?
                                                                                            I am sure it is mediocre at best but since you are the only one to admit that all pizza in the area sucks, I will allow you.

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                                                                                              The Old Man Jan 2, 2009 07:59 PM

                                                                                              Been to Filippi's--I crossed it off, along with Leucadia Pizza, a long time ago.

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                                                                                                Josh Jan 3, 2009 01:16 AM

                                                                                                Fillippi's is not good - the crust is too doughy, there's too much cheese, and the sauce is boring.

                                                                                                Lefty's is good stuff though. So is Luigi, and Pizzicato in Encinitas. If none of those pass muster in your book, I'd really be curious as to what you think they're doing wrong.

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                                                                                            Ted Styles Jan 3, 2009 11:08 PM

                                                                                            Best A Wan has big chunks of fennel sausage, very good.

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                                                                                          stradacouple Jan 1, 2009 05:19 PM

                                                                                          Filippi's Pizza Grotto in Little Italy. wins hands down in my book. This is from an east coast guy who knows pizza.

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                                                                                            Cathy Jan 2, 2009 03:47 PM

                                                                                            Merci.

                                                                                            I said the same thing in 2007 and was told I had written the most blasphemous thing someone had ever seen written on these boards.

                                                                                            It really is good pizza.

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                                                                                              kare_raisu Jan 2, 2009 09:21 PM

                                                                                              filippis is a gross cheese cake train wreck.

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                                                                                                stradacouple Jan 3, 2009 04:57 AM

                                                                                                Wow....what a way with words!

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                                                                                                  Cathy Jan 3, 2009 06:36 AM

                                                                                                  Welcome to the San Diego portion of the boards.

                                                                                                  I see you mainly contribute to the Boston boards. My husband was raised in Quincy, Milton and Braintree. This explains the love of this type of pizza that you and he (and after going in Boston after leaving Detroit, the home of Little Cesar and Domino) and I have.

                                                                                                  There are several Filippi's in San Diego, but the one you (and I) go to in Little Italy makes the pizza the way you know. It is very much the same style as made in the Boston area.

                                                                                                  I don't understand how people can push their tastebuds only and make fun of anyone who does not agree with them. I do think our taste preferences go back to how we were raised. The whole comfort food thing.

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                                                                                                    Josh Jan 3, 2009 08:35 AM

                                                                                                    I think certain kinds of food that have a long traditional history can inspire these kinds of passionate feelings. I've eaten at Filippi's many times since moving to San Diego as a teenager. I've never particularly cared for it, but in general my feelings about pizza were pretty lukewarm until I first had pizza in NYC. I wasn't aware that Filippi's was a Boston-style pie, let alone that there was Boston-style pizza.

                                                                                                    For people whose experience of pizza is more of the traditional Italian thin-crusted variety, Filippi's is a tough pizza to love. The bready crust, large amount of cheese, and general heaviness is a stark contrast to the thin, crisp-chewy crust and lighter hand with toppings found in NY or Neapolitan styles.

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                                                                                            oerdin Jan 3, 2009 11:54 PM

                                                                                            What do people think about The Venetian on Voltaire St? I've never been there but I've noticed that they get named in a lot of those best of the city type rankings.

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                                                                                              sg07 Jan 5, 2009 08:10 AM

                                                                                              Has anyone tried Hoboken in Pacific Beach? It tastes like the pizza I used to get in Hoboken on my way back to Manhattan!

                                                                                              1. snort Jan 5, 2009 06:20 PM

                                                                                                The best pizza in San Diego? Luigi's in Golden Hills. Then maybe Bongiorno's in Solana Beach, but they are not even close to the the best pizza in the west: Scholl's Apizza in Portland, Oregon. Drive a couple of days up north....just for the pizza.

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                                                                                                  MrKrispy Jan 6, 2009 02:09 PM

                                                                                                  there is a Bongiorno's on Miramar that I like, are they the same owner/operator?

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                                                                                                    RB Hound Jan 6, 2009 08:01 PM

                                                                                                    They have the same web site, so I'm guessing yes on them having the same owner. They also list a Poway Road location:

                                                                                                    http://bongiornos-pizza.com/default.aspx

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                                                                                                  maggersmagoo Jan 6, 2009 12:31 PM

                                                                                                  I tried Luigi's for the first time last week. I agree, it is the best in San Diego.

                                                                                                  Still love Lefty's. Bronx Pizza now pales in comparison to Luigi's. I mentioned Pizza Port earlier in the thread, but I have to try it again. The only time I ate it I was so hungry anything would have tasted great.

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                                                                                                    SDGourmand Jan 7, 2009 07:34 AM

                                                                                                    I'm from Boston and spent at least two years looking for good pizza. My favorite is East Coast Pizza in Cardiff. It's in the Seaside Market shopping center. Thin crust crispy and about 12 different pies to choose from.. All excellent I might add. Give it a try.

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                                                                                                    cookieshoes Jan 7, 2009 03:11 PM

                                                                                                    Luigi's is good for thin crust. Between Bronx and Luigi's, Luigi's wins hands-down. And they serve beer. Double hands down. Although they only take cash, and the place straddles the fine line between "college pizza place" and "dumpy pizza place". Reminds me of Blondies pizza in Berkeley.

                                                                                                    However, for the highest quality ingredients in SD, it's Lefty's all the way. No comparison with any other pizza joint in town, save for Pizzicato in Encinitas.

                                                                                                    And, even though the original poster was specifically asking for "New York" style, Lefty's makes a mean thin-crust. In fact, I prefer it to the deep dish that they're known for. And I also prefer it to the New York style that everyone else is talking about, which honestly I'm not that big a fan of. So, for me personally, it's Lefty's thin crust over Luigi's anyway.

                                                                                                    Lefty's Lefty's Lefty's....

                                                                                                    On top of all of this, by the way, Lefty's also makes one of the best burgers in San Diego. One to easily go up against Rocky's, Peabody's, etc. Go figure. And, you can pay by credit card there and they've got beer on tap (Newcastle and PBR, with more in bottles).

                                                                                                    At Lefty's I always get the Pepperoni and Basil thin crust. Heaven.

                                                                                                    Got to give a shout-out to Pizza Port in Carlsbad too. Personal-sized Pepperoni, a house salad, and a pint of the Wipeout IPA (which simply does not taste any better anywhere else in San Diego than at the brewery).

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                                                                                                      DougOLis Jan 7, 2009 04:01 PM

                                                                                                      Luigi's is way better than Blondies and a totally different style of pizza.

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                                                                                                        cookieshoes Jan 7, 2009 05:09 PM

                                                                                                        I know. I was commenting on the appearance of the place.

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                                                                                                          DougOLis Jan 8, 2009 08:01 AM

                                                                                                          I'm still not sure I get that comparison. Maybe Gioia Pizzeria or Zachary's in Berkeley but not really Blondie's

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                                                                                                        Fake Name Feb 5, 2009 04:35 PM

                                                                                                        And the other good news- Lefty's is supposed to move into the old Phil's location in Mission Hills.

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                                                                                                          jmtreg Feb 5, 2009 08:09 PM

                                                                                                          Sweet! They'll be my neighborhood place then.

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                                                                                                            DougOLis Feb 6, 2009 10:21 AM

                                                                                                            Why is that good news? Are they opening up a 2nd location or just moving?

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                                                                                                              jasont Feb 6, 2009 10:36 AM

                                                                                                              2nd Location. The one on 30th will still be there.

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                                                                                                          Lanfeare2 Jan 31, 2009 01:00 PM

                                                                                                          Here's a spin on the query...where are the best pizza parlors? You know, like the parlors of my youth, with tasty hot pizza hovering over refreshing pitchers of draft beer or soda? Where can I re-experience that in SD? Price, ambiance or location is no obstacle.

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                                                                                                            ginael Jan 31, 2009 04:39 PM

                                                                                                            You posed a good question. The last pizza parlor I stepped foot in was Bozeman, MT several years ago. Haven't found anything close to it in SD. I think Pizza Port is parlorish since it has the big picnic tables, pitchers of (wonderful) beer and pretty good pizza.

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                                                                                                              Beach Chick Jan 31, 2009 05:15 PM

                                                                                                              Back in the late 60's/70's in SD, we would always go to Shakey's Pizza Parlor and there would be a piano player and the adults would all be smoking and drinking PBR in glass pitchers and don't remember if Mickie Finn Band was part of it or separate..those were some good times!

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                                                                                                                cookieshoes Feb 4, 2009 05:38 PM

                                                                                                                I second Pizza Port. Not to mention some of the best beer in San Diego, bar none. Really, if you've never been, they win awards at the annual beer fests for good reason.
                                                                                                                And the food is top-notch as well.

                                                                                                                For the realllllly authentic, you must go to Lampost Pizza
                                                                                                                http://www.lamppostpizza.com/location...

                                                                                                                I remember going to the one in Anaheim when I was a kid. They're still mostly in Orange County and LA, but they've since opened one in Vista. For that "vibe" you're looking for, you got it. Can't comment on the food, though, but it looks like they also have their own microbrew there.

                                                                                                                But really, I'd stick with Pizza Port. Solana Beach and Carlsbad are the ones to go to. The San Clemente one is great too. Carlsbad has the best selection of beer by a mile, though.

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                                                                                                                  stevuchan Feb 5, 2009 07:07 AM

                                                                                                                  Ha, it has been forever since I heard Lapmost Pizza, it was a must after little leauge. Pernicano's is parloresq (PB location), with a boat, video games, prizes, and piano (sometimes the vibes). Pizza is decent, if requested well done.

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                                                                                                                1HotTomato Feb 4, 2009 10:13 PM

                                                                                                                I make my living dealing with pizzerias and Luigi's is by FAR the best in town. No contest. Plus, the people are rad.

                                                                                                                Filippi's...really? ALL of their food is mediocre at best. Don't waste the time or money.

                                                                                                                I've had Grubby's while they were developing their recipe and it seemed promising. Have not had it since they opened. I will say that I am surprised to hear anyone classify their sauce as "marinara" because they were just using straight up tomatoes with very little seasoning.

                                                                                                                I will say that Chicago pizza is only found in Chicago. And nobody can agree on what is truly New York pizza. San Diego is not the place to look for a great pie. Seafood, maybe. Mexican, definitely. Pizza - head East. Really.

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                                                                                                                  The Old Man Feb 5, 2009 08:01 AM

                                                                                                                  "I've had Grubby's while they were developing their recipe and it seemed promising. Have not had it since they opened"

                                                                                                                  They're closed.

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