577517 Thu Dec 04 21:24:52 -0800 2008 44 33 Food Media and News 0 4221981 anyone see it this morning? i DVR'd it and finally had a chance to watch tonight, and i need someone to dish with! Thu Dec 04 21:24:52 -0800 2008 103920 goodhealthgourmet 1 4222021 if you didn't see it, there's a video on baristanet.com Thu Dec 04 22:05:54 -0800 2008 4221981 52499 ChefJune 1 4222353 Wow. Kathy Lee described his dish as "putrid". That's pretty rough considering he made the top three and all. I guess she's just used to Starbucks and a stale muffin for breakfast =) Fri Dec 05 05:21:12 -0800 2008 4221981 235489 ktb615 2 4222472 Just proves to me that she's more of a tool than I already thought she was. The fact that Tom Colicchio said Jeff's dish was excellent also helps prove that she has no taste whatsoever. Fri Dec 05 06:37:49 -0800 2008 4222353 10532 LindaWhit 3 4222600 IT'S KATHY LEE GIFFORD!!! For crying out loud, if that doesn't broadcast LOSER in huge neon signs I don't know what does. Fri Dec 05 07:29:10 -0800 2008 4222472 11826 Phaedrus 4 4222856 Kathie Lee couldn't have been snarkier...raised eyebrows and snide comments about the tequila in the marinade and the fattiness & texture of the avocado mousse...and she was practically jumping out of her skin to take over at the grill. you could see the relief on her face when Ariane handed her the tongs. i wanted to tie her to a chair and smack her with them [preferably while simultaneously force-feeding her shots of cheap tequila and spoonfuls of muhammara] until she apologized to Jeff and promised never to utter the word "putrid" again. but enough about the spawn of Satan. let's talk about Ariane for a minute...did anyone else think she seemed uncomfortable? she didn't have very good energy or timing, and i couldn't believe she kept suggesting marinating the shrimp for hours, or even overnight. really? with all that lime juice in the marinade? not the best advice to be giving to an audience of inexperienced home cooks. there's gonna be a lot of mushy shrimp out there... she also nearly smoked them all out of the studio. some of the shrimp tails started to burn - fortunately Hoda (i think that's her name?) realized what as happening and turned off the burner, but the smoke was pretty noticeable. in all, it wasn't a disaster, but i also didn't think it went particularly well. Fri Dec 05 08:54:42 -0800 2008 4222600 103920 goodhealthgourmet 5 4223170 Wow, snarky is an understatement for how rude Kathy Lee was to Ariane. Ariane did look and sound uncomfortable but I would have been too with how hard those two hosts were jockeying for a spot in the center and near the grill. Every time the camera panned out to show the three, one of the hosts was making a face or running somewhere else. It was painful to watch. Fri Dec 05 10:35:42 -0800 2008 4222856 152043 TampaAurora 5 4223349 I agree that Ariane seemed less than at her ease, but with those two pushing and shoving her to get at the grill, I'm guessing even dear Julia would have become nonplussed. Also not sure what made her say to marinate the shrimp for more than a half hour..... maybe nerves? Fri Dec 05 11:26:31 -0800 2008 4222856 52499 ChefJune 6 4223466 "Also not sure what made her say to marinate the shrimp for more than a half hour..... maybe nerves?" ~~~~~~~ i could chalk it up to nerves if she had only said it once, but she did it several times. her suggestions ranged from doing it earlier in the day, to marinating for several hours, to leaving it in the fridge overnight. it was bizarre. Fri Dec 05 12:01:25 -0800 2008 4223349 103920 goodhealthgourmet 7 4223570 Rest assured, she does NOT do that in her restaurant! Fri Dec 05 12:31:15 -0800 2008 4223466 52499 ChefJune 4 4223055 And it's for THAT reason (the fact that it's KLG) that I'm at a complete loss as to why NBC hired her for that last hour of The Today Show. She wasn't nice when she was on with Regis; she seems to be less so now! Fri Dec 05 10:02:44 -0800 2008 4222600 10532 LindaWhit 5 4225198 Plus, while I hate to rag on women in the media for not looking 25, KLG hasn't aged well at all. "Hag" was the word that came to mind. There are other women her age (and older, KLG is only 55) on TV who manage to look their age and still look good. Meredith Viera is the same age and looks much better. Barbara Walters is almost 80 and she looks better that KLG! I think the trick is accepting the aging process and working with it, not fighting it. But back to Ariane -- I thought it was ironic that she didn't finish her demo on time. I thought she looked uncomfortable, but being crowded by two hosts like that would make anyone uncomfortable. Sat Dec 06 09:23:50 -0800 2008 4223055 10159 Ruth Lafler 6 4226350 And what exactly is the relevance of their appearance to this conversation? Sounds to me like you LOVE to rag on women who do not look 25. Sat Dec 06 20:16:08 -0800 2008 4225198 28451 trouttr 7 4227092 Nope. I like to rag on women like KLG who are still pretending they're 25 when they're 55. Grow up! Age gracefully! That "I'm so cute and fluffy" act is barely tolerable on 25 year olds -- if you're 55 and still don't have anything more substantial to offer then mugging and giggles then you're just pathetic. Sun Dec 07 09:55:06 -0800 2008 4226350 10159 Ruth Lafler 8 4227603 You said it, sister! Sun Dec 07 14:42:06 -0800 2008 4227092 34558 roxlet 9 4235209 AMEN Wed Dec 10 07:55:34 -0800 2008 4227603 203919 lcool 8 4227628 if you're 55 and still don't have anything more substantial to offer then mugging and giggles then you're just pathetic ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bingo. :-) ("Cute and fluffy" - PERFECT description!) Sun Dec 07 14:50:46 -0800 2008 4227092 10532 LindaWhit 8 4227647 You're absolutely right about adult women acting like like girls. It's embarrassing and demeaning. Worse than that -- or maybe it's a part of the same thing -- is all that really bad obvious cosmetic surgery. There's been a lot of that on TV lately with the Real Housewives of Wherever, but to have someone like KLG in some sort of authoritative position critiquing the real work of people like Ariane (who has talked about not being a kid, herself) is little disturbing. It's a wonder that someone like that has a continuing career in the public eye and, I would presume, some kind of fan following. Sun Dec 07 14:57:44 -0800 2008 4227092 24468 chicgail 9 4228948 I thought I was the only one who can't stand KLG. Mon Dec 08 07:55:49 -0800 2008 4227647 11826 Phaedrus 10 4228981 I don't watch the show. I have no idea whether I can stand KLG. Mon Dec 08 08:06:10 -0800 2008 4228948 180506 Ericandblueboy 11 4229809 i don't watch it either, but on the few occasions throughout my life when i've seen her in something, i've found her so offensive and painful to watch/listen to that i expect my eyes & ears to begin bleeding... Mon Dec 08 11:47:45 -0800 2008 4228981 103920 goodhealthgourmet 6 4233292 Barbara has a different plastic surgeon than KLG. Get real. Tue Dec 09 13:23:13 -0800 2008 4225198 11408 melly 7 4233319 What? KLG can't afford a good plastic surgeon? The point is that Barbara Walters is trying to look good for her age, while KLG is trying to look a different age. You can make a woman look good for 55, but you can't make her look 25, which seems to be what KLG is going for, and the fact that she can't achieve it isn't her plastic surgeon's fault. What's worse is that KLG still acts like a not terribly bright 25-year-old, which just makes her failed attempts to look 25 more obvious. Tue Dec 09 13:30:19 -0800 2008 4233292 10159 Ruth Lafler 8 4233911 Okay! Tue Dec 09 16:49:24 -0800 2008 4233319 11408 melly 6 4235202 HOSTS..????? they looked more in line with self important bullies to me. Snipers at a sleep over for 11 year olds. Wed Dec 10 07:54:01 -0800 2008 4225198 203919 lcool 3 4224290 LOL! Fri Dec 05 17:29:11 -0800 2008 4222472 246082 c_ciani 2 4235524 I find it silly KLG referred to that dish as putrid. I'm sure she's had much, much more horrible things in her mouth...... Wed Dec 10 09:25:40 -0800 2008 4222353 150096 jackbauer 3 4235575 LOL! I have trouble believing the dish was putrid, either, although perhaps it was not something everyone would find appealing at 8 o'clock in the morning. I hate to think what kind of table manners she's teaching her kids! Wed Dec 10 09:40:35 -0800 2008 4235524 10159 Ruth Lafler 4 4235621 She shoved her two kids in front of the television public practically from Day 1. And her manners weren't much better back on Regis & Kathie Lee. So I'm sure they've seen *only* the best from dear old Mom. And was this show on the 4th hour of the Today show? The 10am hour? Wed Dec 10 09:50:35 -0800 2008 4235575 10532 LindaWhit 5 4236480 No wonder poor Frank cheated on her. Wed Dec 10 13:32:04 -0800 2008 4235621 11826 Phaedrus 3 4237671 Oooo. Ouch. But you made me smile. Wed Dec 10 20:57:33 -0800 2008 4235524 24468 chicgail 1 4223735 I thought she did well in a difficult environment. Those other two ladies should just shut their faces, they did nothing but get in the way. RE: marinade overnight, will a couple tablespoons over lime juice diluted into tequila and oil turn the shrimp overnight into ceviche? Fri Dec 05 13:19:28 -0800 2008 4221981 149033 fame da lupo 2 4223818 i looked up the recipe on the web...it specifically says to refrigerate the shrimp in the marinade overnight. it calls for 3 Tbsp of lime juice for 16 shrimp - sounds to me like sufficient acid to alter the texture, even if it is diluted by the oil & tequila. if it was me, i'd coat the shrimp in the marinade sans acid, and toss with the lime juice for maybe the last 30 minutes before cooking. here's the link to the recipe: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28018940/ Fri Dec 05 13:44:43 -0800 2008 4223735 103920 goodhealthgourmet 1 4234126 Funny that no one mentioned this yet, but on many occasions in the lead-in to the story they referred to her as "the winner from the new season of Top Chef," including once with Tom Collichio present and he didn't correct them. Given the length of time between taping Top Chef and appearing on this live show it could have been the ultimate spoiIer. Although, I can't imagine Ariane, getting much further in the show. Weird. Especially when Tom clearly had a chance to clarify and didn't !!! Tue Dec 09 18:12:55 -0800 2008 4221981 11737 NoeMan 2 4235130 I don't think they have taped the finale yet. That usually occurs pretty much in real time. Wed Dec 10 07:32:26 -0800 2008 4234126 52499 ChefJune 2 4236061 I'm sure they just meant of that challenge...that's how I took it, anyway, when I saw it. Maybe Tom just wanted to throw you off =p Does seem like a weird little slip, though. I don't see her getting too much further either--maybe one or two more episodes. Hmm. Wed Dec 10 11:33:09 -0800 2008 4234126 246797 Daniellabelle 3 4238165 Yikes, she won again (undeservedly again too), cue the Twilight Zone theme..... Thu Dec 11 06:19:22 -0800 2008 4236061 11737 NoeMan 4 4238420 just because she was surprised? The diners all LOVED the lamb. So why was that "undeservedly?" Unexpected, yes. but that's half the fun of the show. Thu Dec 11 07:48:43 -0800 2008 4238165 52499 ChefJune 5 4240402 She added nothing to the flavor and ignored the leader Jamie's advice to get it in earlier, almost blowing their whole team's course, but for intense help from all the other contestants. That says undeservedly to me. Thu Dec 11 18:04:42 -0800 2008 4238420 11737 NoeMan 4 4238776 Thanks for the spoiler. How about keeping discussion of new episodes to their proper threads. Thu Dec 11 09:23:14 -0800 2008 4238165 161386 kmcarr 5 4239085 To me, the only surpising thing about the lamb (rather than what was served with it) being the most praised of the dozen components to those four courses. Lamb (like beef) is either cooked well or it isn't. No creativity or skill combining ingredients is involved. Thu Dec 11 10:50:42 -0800 2008 4238776 54833 ClaireWalter 5 4239144 I agree. I avoided the other Top Chef threads because I wasn't able to watch the show last night... Thu Dec 11 11:11:38 -0800 2008 4238776 88544 Ima Wurdibitsch 5 4240397 Sorry Thu Dec 11 18:02:41 -0800 2008 4238776 11737 NoeMan 1 4237447 If you watch KLG cooking segments, it's obvious that she's a picky eater who decides things are unappetizing before she even tries them. I''ve always thought that was pretty odd thet the producer dont just use Hota, since she seems to give the chefs/cooks food a chance. Wed Dec 10 19:14:13 -0800 2008 4221981 54744 rozz01 2 4239196 Hoda was on TV in New Orleans and worked hard there to keep her figure (she was a neighbor of ours). Anyone who lives in New Orleans and does TV for a couple of years has seen how cooking demos should be done. Thu Dec 11 11:29:08 -0800 2008 4237447 79896 shallots