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Top Chef contestant Ariane's "Today Show" appearance

goodhealthgourmet Dec 4, 2008 08:24 PM

anyone see it this morning? i DVR'd it and finally had a chance to watch tonight, and i need someone to dish with!

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  1. ChefJune RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 4, 2008 09:05 PM

    if you didn't see it, there's a video on baristanet.com

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      ktb615 RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 5, 2008 04:21 AM

      Wow. Kathy Lee described his dish as "putrid". That's pretty rough considering he made the top three and all. I guess she's just used to Starbucks and a stale muffin for breakfast =)

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      1. re: ktb615
        LindaWhit RE: ktb615 Dec 5, 2008 05:37 AM

        Just proves to me that she's more of a tool than I already thought she was. The fact that Tom Colicchio said Jeff's dish was excellent also helps prove that she has no taste whatsoever.

        1. re: LindaWhit
          Phaedrus RE: LindaWhit Dec 5, 2008 06:29 AM

          IT'S KATHY LEE GIFFORD!!! For crying out loud, if that doesn't broadcast LOSER in huge neon signs I don't know what does.

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            goodhealthgourmet RE: Phaedrus Dec 5, 2008 07:54 AM

            Kathie Lee couldn't have been snarkier...raised eyebrows and snide comments about the tequila in the marinade and the fattiness & texture of the avocado mousse...and she was practically jumping out of her skin to take over at the grill. you could see the relief on her face when Ariane handed her the tongs. i wanted to tie her to a chair and smack her with them [preferably while simultaneously force-feeding her shots of cheap tequila and spoonfuls of muhammara] until she apologized to Jeff and promised never to utter the word "putrid" again.

            but enough about the spawn of Satan. let's talk about Ariane for a minute...did anyone else think she seemed uncomfortable? she didn't have very good energy or timing, and i couldn't believe she kept suggesting marinating the shrimp for hours, or even overnight. really? with all that lime juice in the marinade? not the best advice to be giving to an audience of inexperienced home cooks. there's gonna be a lot of mushy shrimp out there...

            she also nearly smoked them all out of the studio. some of the shrimp tails started to burn - fortunately Hoda (i think that's her name?) realized what as happening and turned off the burner, but the smoke was pretty noticeable.

            in all, it wasn't a disaster, but i also didn't think it went particularly well.

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              TampaAurora RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 5, 2008 09:35 AM

              Wow, snarky is an understatement for how rude Kathy Lee was to Ariane. Ariane did look and sound uncomfortable but I would have been too with how hard those two hosts were jockeying for a spot in the center and near the grill. Every time the camera panned out to show the three, one of the hosts was making a face or running somewhere else. It was painful to watch.

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                ChefJune RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 5, 2008 10:26 AM

                I agree that Ariane seemed less than at her ease, but with those two pushing and shoving her to get at the grill, I'm guessing even dear Julia would have become nonplussed.

                Also not sure what made her say to marinate the shrimp for more than a half hour..... maybe nerves?

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                  goodhealthgourmet RE: ChefJune Dec 5, 2008 11:01 AM

                  "Also not sure what made her say to marinate the shrimp for more than a half hour..... maybe nerves?"
                  i could chalk it up to nerves if she had only said it once, but she did it several times. her suggestions ranged from doing it earlier in the day, to marinating for several hours, to leaving it in the fridge overnight. it was bizarre.

                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                    ChefJune RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 5, 2008 11:31 AM

                    Rest assured, she does NOT do that in her restaurant!

              2. re: Phaedrus
                LindaWhit RE: Phaedrus Dec 5, 2008 09:02 AM

                And it's for THAT reason (the fact that it's KLG) that I'm at a complete loss as to why NBC hired her for that last hour of The Today Show. She wasn't nice when she was on with Regis; she seems to be less so now!

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                  Ruth Lafler RE: LindaWhit Dec 6, 2008 08:23 AM

                  Plus, while I hate to rag on women in the media for not looking 25, KLG hasn't aged well at all. "Hag" was the word that came to mind. There are other women her age (and older, KLG is only 55) on TV who manage to look their age and still look good. Meredith Viera is the same age and looks much better. Barbara Walters is almost 80 and she looks better that KLG! I think the trick is accepting the aging process and working with it, not fighting it.

                  But back to Ariane -- I thought it was ironic that she didn't finish her demo on time. I thought she looked uncomfortable, but being crowded by two hosts like that would make anyone uncomfortable.

                  1. re: Ruth Lafler
                    trouttr RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 6, 2008 07:16 PM

                    And what exactly is the relevance of their appearance to this conversation? Sounds to me like you LOVE to rag on women who do not look 25.

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                      Ruth Lafler RE: trouttr Dec 7, 2008 08:55 AM

                      Nope. I like to rag on women like KLG who are still pretending they're 25 when they're 55. Grow up! Age gracefully! That "I'm so cute and fluffy" act is barely tolerable on 25 year olds -- if you're 55 and still don't have anything more substantial to offer then mugging and giggles then you're just pathetic.

                      1. re: Ruth Lafler
                        roxlet RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 7, 2008 01:42 PM

                        You said it, sister!

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                          lcool RE: roxlet Dec 10, 2008 06:55 AM


                        2. re: Ruth Lafler
                          LindaWhit RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 7, 2008 01:50 PM

                          if you're 55 and still don't have anything more substantial to offer then mugging and giggles then you're just pathetic
                          Bingo. :-) ("Cute and fluffy" - PERFECT description!)

                          1. re: Ruth Lafler
                            chicgail RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 7, 2008 01:57 PM

                            You're absolutely right about adult women acting like like girls. It's embarrassing and demeaning. Worse than that -- or maybe it's a part of the same thing -- is all that really bad obvious cosmetic surgery.

                            There's been a lot of that on TV lately with the Real Housewives of Wherever, but to have someone like KLG in some sort of authoritative position critiquing the real work of people like Ariane (who has talked about not being a kid, herself) is little disturbing.

                            It's a wonder that someone like that has a continuing career in the public eye and, I would presume, some kind of fan following.

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                              Phaedrus RE: chicgail Dec 8, 2008 06:55 AM

                              I thought I was the only one who can't stand KLG.

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                                Ericandblueboy RE: Phaedrus Dec 8, 2008 07:06 AM

                                I don't watch the show. I have no idea whether I can stand KLG.

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                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: Ericandblueboy Dec 8, 2008 10:47 AM

                                  i don't watch it either, but on the few occasions throughout my life when i've seen her in something, i've found her so offensive and painful to watch/listen to that i expect my eyes & ears to begin bleeding...

                        3. re: Ruth Lafler
                          melly RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 9, 2008 12:23 PM

                          Barbara has a different plastic surgeon than KLG. Get real.

                          1. re: melly
                            Ruth Lafler RE: melly Dec 9, 2008 12:30 PM

                            What? KLG can't afford a good plastic surgeon? The point is that Barbara Walters is trying to look good for her age, while KLG is trying to look a different age. You can make a woman look good for 55, but you can't make her look 25, which seems to be what KLG is going for, and the fact that she can't achieve it isn't her plastic surgeon's fault. What's worse is that KLG still acts like a not terribly bright 25-year-old, which just makes her failed attempts to look 25 more obvious.

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                              melly RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 9, 2008 03:49 PM


                          2. re: Ruth Lafler
                            lcool RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 10, 2008 06:54 AM

                            HOSTS..????? they looked more in line with self important bullies to me.
                            Snipers at a sleep over for 11 year olds.

                      2. re: LindaWhit
                        c_ciani RE: LindaWhit Dec 5, 2008 04:29 PM


                      3. re: ktb615
                        jackbauer RE: ktb615 Dec 10, 2008 08:25 AM

                        I find it silly KLG referred to that dish as putrid. I'm sure she's had much, much more horrible things in her mouth......

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                          Ruth Lafler RE: jackbauer Dec 10, 2008 08:40 AM

                          LOL! I have trouble believing the dish was putrid, either, although perhaps it was not something everyone would find appealing at 8 o'clock in the morning. I hate to think what kind of table manners she's teaching her kids!

                          1. re: Ruth Lafler
                            LindaWhit RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 10, 2008 08:50 AM

                            She shoved her two kids in front of the television public practically from Day 1. And her manners weren't much better back on Regis & Kathie Lee. So I'm sure they've seen *only* the best from dear old Mom.

                            And was this show on the 4th hour of the Today show? The 10am hour?

                            1. re: LindaWhit
                              Phaedrus RE: LindaWhit Dec 10, 2008 12:32 PM

                              No wonder poor Frank cheated on her.

                          2. re: jackbauer
                            chicgail RE: jackbauer Dec 10, 2008 07:57 PM

                            Oooo. Ouch.

                            But you made me smile.

                        2. fame da lupo RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 5, 2008 12:19 PM

                          I thought she did well in a difficult environment. Those other two ladies should just shut their faces, they did nothing but get in the way.

                          RE: marinade overnight, will a couple tablespoons over lime juice diluted into tequila and oil turn the shrimp overnight into ceviche?

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                          1. re: fame da lupo
                            goodhealthgourmet RE: fame da lupo Dec 5, 2008 12:44 PM

                            i looked up the recipe on the web...it specifically says to refrigerate the shrimp in the marinade overnight.

                            it calls for 3 Tbsp of lime juice for 16 shrimp - sounds to me like sufficient acid to alter the texture, even if it is diluted by the oil & tequila. if it was me, i'd coat the shrimp in the marinade sans acid, and toss with the lime juice for maybe the last 30 minutes before cooking.

                            here's the link to the recipe:


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                            NoeMan RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 9, 2008 05:12 PM

                            Funny that no one mentioned this yet, but on many occasions in the lead-in to the story they referred to her as "the winner from the new season of Top Chef," including once with Tom Collichio present and he didn't correct them. Given the length of time between taping Top Chef and appearing on this live show it could have been the ultimate spoiIer. Although, I can't imagine Ariane, getting much further in the show. Weird. Especially when Tom clearly had a chance to clarify and didn't !!!

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                              ChefJune RE: NoeMan Dec 10, 2008 06:32 AM

                              I don't think they have taped the finale yet. That usually occurs pretty much in real time.

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                                Daniellabelle RE: NoeMan Dec 10, 2008 10:33 AM

                                I'm sure they just meant of that challenge...that's how I took it, anyway, when I saw it. Maybe Tom just wanted to throw you off =p

                                Does seem like a weird little slip, though. I don't see her getting too much further either--maybe one or two more episodes. Hmm.

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                                  NoeMan RE: Daniellabelle Dec 11, 2008 05:19 AM

                                  Yikes, she won again (undeservedly again too), cue the Twilight Zone theme.....

                                  1. re: NoeMan
                                    ChefJune RE: NoeMan Dec 11, 2008 06:48 AM

                                    just because she was surprised? The diners all LOVED the lamb. So why was that "undeservedly?"

                                    Unexpected, yes. but that's half the fun of the show.

                                    1. re: ChefJune
                                      NoeMan RE: ChefJune Dec 11, 2008 05:04 PM

                                      She added nothing to the flavor and ignored the leader Jamie's advice to get it in earlier, almost blowing their whole team's course, but for intense help from all the other contestants. That says undeservedly to me.

                                    2. re: NoeMan
                                      kmcarr RE: NoeMan Dec 11, 2008 08:23 AM

                                      Thanks for the spoiler. How about keeping discussion of new episodes to their proper threads.

                                      1. re: kmcarr
                                        ClaireWalter RE: kmcarr Dec 11, 2008 09:50 AM

                                        To me, the only surpising thing about the lamb (rather than what was served with it) being the most praised of the dozen components to those four courses. Lamb (like beef) is either cooked well or it isn't. No creativity or skill combining ingredients is involved.

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                                          Ima Wurdibitsch RE: kmcarr Dec 11, 2008 10:11 AM

                                          I agree. I avoided the other Top Chef threads because I wasn't able to watch the show last night...

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                                            NoeMan RE: kmcarr Dec 11, 2008 05:02 PM


                                    3. rozz01 RE: goodhealthgourmet Dec 10, 2008 06:14 PM

                                      If you watch KLG cooking segments, it's obvious that she's a picky eater who decides things are unappetizing before she even tries them. I''ve always thought that was pretty odd thet the producer dont just use Hota, since she seems to give the chefs/cooks food a chance.

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                                        shallots RE: rozz01 Dec 11, 2008 10:29 AM

                                        Hoda was on TV in New Orleans and worked hard there to keep her figure (she was a neighbor of ours).
                                        Anyone who lives in New Orleans and does TV for a couple of years has seen how cooking demos should be done.

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