15 high schoolers from Vermont coming to town...and they want lunch
I have a friend who is a high school teacher in VT and she's bringing some of her students to the city on Friday. She asked for help in finding a place to eat lunch. They'll be at the U.N. and the Metropolitan Museum, so they're roaming and willing to travel a bit. Can anyone suggest a place? I'm appending a bit of her email below so that you can see what she's thinking. Thanks!
Last year we ate lunch in Times Sq at the Hard Rock Cafe. Not only is that pretty pricey, but it's so lacking (for me, anyway) in any kind of cultural flair/fare. Although I know it's difficult to arrive with 15 people and try to eat some place (around 1-ish) -- though we are coming on Friday (this week). Any thoughts? We're somewhat mobile and usually walk and ride the subway.
PS -- One place I had thought of was America or Carmine's (not sure on those names, but remembering they have large round tables and family-style serving.
No, no, not that location of Tony's Di Napoli. It sucks! The one on 3rd Av. in the 70s (?) is better (though just OK). I've never thought Carmine's was great, either. Again, just OK, and kind of fun for a group.
I would have been the first to suggest Katz's, if RGR hadn't already suggested it and LeahBaila and D...DF hadn't agreed. :-) Simon has a great point, though: Vegetarians are out of luck there. Which gives rise to another idea that others have touched on: Chinese food. Specifically, I was thinking of Congee Village, which is a very big eating hall and probably wouldn't be too crowded at lunchtime, especially on a weekday. Looks like that was today, though, so where did you go?
Carmines is pretty mediocre and America (assuming you are talking about the place near Union Sq) closed a long time ago and is now a Rosa Mexicano.
You can try Naples 45 on 45th btwn Lex and Vanderbilt (Park). Its in the back of Grand Central/Met Life building and has great neopolitan style pizzas. Its also a fairly large restaurant, so would be good for a group and isn't too expensive. Also for pizza, past times square is John's on 44th and 8th. Not the best pizza in the city but decent. It is in a former chapel and with a huge ornate ceiling.
Other possible ideas are Blue Smoke (bbq and burgers) and Grand Sichuan (I'd say Szechuan Gourmet but 16 people around lunchtime would overwhelm it) for some good chinese food
I agree that Carmine's is relatively dreadful by adult, NYer standards -- but I know I would've enjoyed it as a high school student. The prices are within range and most (probably all) branches of this restaurant have enough space to seat 15. Servers there are used to rambunctious groups, so no one will glare too ferociously at high school kids.
That said, I haven't been to Naples 45 or the TS location of John's.
Wouldn't do Grand Sichuan. A group of fifteen is far too big for that restaurant, though the food is good.
If they can make the trek all the way down town, you can try Lombardi's. Novelty of being the first pizzeria in America, kids can wait potentially in playground next door while table is being set, and can do a trip down mulberry (lil italy) to get some gelato afterwards. Also, aesthetically a different neighborhood feel than you'll find uptown, which would be good to get exposure to.
I'd take them to Katz's, the quintessential NYC deli, which has history dating back to its opening in 1887. (Their saying, "Send a salami to your boy in the army," is a famous reminder of WWII.) Ordering at the counter won't work very well with a group that size, so it will have to be table service. Coming in at the height of the lunch hour could prove problematical. So, I'd call to see what arrangements can be made.
If that won't work, perhaps Sarge's would. Another great deli with a vast diner-style menu.
Another option might be Daisy May's for great bbq. It's a cafeteria-style set-up. I'm sure the students won't care about the lack of decor. Much less expensive than Blue Smoke.