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CulinaryBoner Nov 29, 2008 03:02 PM

Anything new and good on the South Shore? I used to read the Ledger reviews but since Virginia Hayes left the column is lousy.

  1. SOBoston Dec 2, 2008 04:58 PM

    BBQ Korean place just opened in canton...it got good reviews, but it was the Chinese buffet in it's previous life and brings back memories of my friend sticking his head under the unlimited soft serve machine...
    I still have yet to try the all the new restaurants at patriot's place: bar louie's (eh) and red robbin (typical chain).

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      T.Clark Dec 3, 2008 08:55 AM

      I miss Virginia too and I agree the SS reviews in both the Globe South and Ledger are terrible. Seems like they concentrate on chains lately. Also 3 of the last 5 reviews were in towns I don't consider part of the south shore (Foxboro, Dorchester, Foxboro), and do we really need a review of Red Robin?

      I've actually seen more closings than openings lately. The only new place that strikes a chow note with me is Hola (Former owner of Saporito's) in Marshvegas. Pretty good "Tapas" style although not very authentic but the food is a solid B.

      There is a new place going in at the old Friday's on rt.53 in Norwell, but I haven't heard what their concept is.

      A few new places at Derby street shops (Burton's, Rustic) in Hingham but I'm not overly fond of them.

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        mkel34 Dec 3, 2008 09:39 AM

        Only thing I could find about the old Friday's property:

        Friday's site in Norwell sold ; Developer says other restaurants are interested
        From: The Patriot Ledger Quincy, MA | Date: June 27, 2008| Author: STEVE ADAMS | Copyright 2008 The Patriot Ledger Quincy, MA. Provided by ProQuest LLC. (Hide copyright information) Copyright information

        NORWELL - Norwell developer Rader Properties has acquired the former T.G.I. Friday's site on Route 53 and plans to expand the building to house a new restaurant and shops.

        The 10,000-square-foot building at 285 Washington St. in Norwell has been vacant since T.G.I. Friday's closed in September 2006. Rader Properties bought the site from the Carrollton, Texas-based restaurant chain on June 9 for $2.4 million.

        Company President James Rader said he's been talking to operators of Asian restaurants and a sports bar interested in occupying the building.

        Rader said he's prepared to invest $1 million

        1. re: mkel34
          CocoDan Dec 3, 2008 12:02 PM

          The TGIF in Norwell is to become "The Fours" (UGH!). I'm sure they'll do very well there, but you won't see me there any too soon. Sorry for the bad news.
          CocoDan

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            CocoDan Dec 3, 2008 12:14 PM

            The TGIF in Norwell is to become "The Fours" (UGH!). I'm sure they'll do very well, but you won't see me there any too soon. Sorry for the bad news.
            CocoDan

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              SouthShoreBill Jun 21, 2009 05:13 AM

              The Fours in Norwell

              I went to the new location of The Fours and..........WOW.
              I can't immediately remember the last time I walked into a restaurant and was THAT impressed. This place was only open for about a week and I was made to feel like it had been open for a year. My wife and I decided to sit at the bar....recieved quick, friendly, and professional service.....and took in an enjoyable evening.
              My wife got a salad and chowder.....no biggy...but I assure you....she has gone to restaurants and HATED both....not here though. Salad was fresh...dressing deliscious....chowder was perfect. I had the steak tips and they may have been the best I ever had......large enough to cook to order and TENDER.
              Though the food and service were excellent....the main attraction was the place itself. I look forward to going back at a slower time so I can see everything .

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          Richard Hurts Dec 3, 2008 11:22 AM

          I've heard the new restaurant Celia's at the old Alba in Quincy is pretty good. I've never actually eaten at Alba. Gennaro's in Quincy is phenomenal for cheap, 100 % homemade red sauce italian. In Hingham I prefer Square Cafe to Tosca's. Knowing people in the seafood industry I know who buys better fish.

          I've heard good things about Scarlet Oak in Hingham. Pricey though. I only ate at the bar with my wife and it was $80 for a couple of small plates and a 1/2 bottle of wine.

          Had a terrible experience two weeks ago at Atlantica in Cohasset. Mediocre food. I felt like we were eating in a wedding. They have a function room right off the main dining room and it's incredibly loud.

          1. hiddenboston Dec 3, 2008 12:32 PM

            Heh, nice name, CB. I won't ask how you decided on it! :-b

            More southwest than South Shore, but I hear that Olivadi in Norwood is very good.

            1. SOBoston Dec 3, 2008 04:56 PM

              Steer clear of Viola in Braintree.
              Wouldn't surprise me if it has even survived past 6 months.

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                beb31 Dec 16, 2008 10:13 AM

                Agreed on Viola -- Generic italian food and trucked-in desserts from Montillio's, served in a former KFC at an extremely busy intersection.

                Peppercornz didn't benefit much from that Ledger review -- the smothered chicken sounds uninspiring by its pedestrian description. I may just stick to Ecco down the street, Sintra in Braintree or Square Cafe in Hingham.

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                  chowciao Dec 23, 2008 08:17 AM

                  I'll 3d Viola, and 2d Ecco. That's become my fav Italian in the area. Recent place we've been to and love include Solstice in Kingston (outstanding service, and simply prepared, but excellent seafood.) I loved Loco Tapas in Easton, but need to get to it again - haven't been back since they moved.

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                mwk Dec 4, 2008 05:00 AM

                Hi,

                The most recent Ledger review was for a place called Peppercornz on Main, in Weymouth. They have a website and the menu looks nice. Has anyone had experience with it? I don't know if it's a new place or not.

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                  T.Clark Dec 4, 2008 06:14 AM

                  As CB stated when he opened this thread the Ledger food column "Taste and Tell" is lousy. This "review" is yet another example of the boring uninformed and tasteless (pun intended) style the three rotating writers submit as "reviews". I freely admit I couldn't do any better but I also don't try to pretend I'm a real journalist.

                  About Peppercornz (a restaurant with a silly name is usually a bad sign), tough location. Many restaurants have come and gone in that spot so I hope they fare better. Ecco up the street seems pretty similar so It will be interesting to see who comes out on top.

                  This line sums up the restaurant and the writers ability to review(BTW it was a lunch visit the writer wrote about) :

                  Brian ordered the smothered chicken ($7.99), a casserole of grilled marinated chicken topped with grilled mushrooms, onions, peppers and Roma
                  tomatoes, smothered with cheddar cheese and baked on a bed of rice pilaf.

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                    cannedmilkandfruitypebbles Dec 4, 2008 06:38 AM

                    Peppercornz is new, per se. They used to be located closer to the Braintree line and focused on lunch an catering. They're now doing dinner at the new location. I've only been for lunch and they do make a good sandwich. But i'm not sure how it will shake out for dinner. the restaurant itself is dark, all tables, no booths, and really lacks atmosphere, from what I've seen. IMHO, there's no need to go here when Ecco is down the road and is always consistently great with a fantastic atmosphere.

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                      cgrrrl Dec 17, 2008 09:30 PM

                      My sister and I just went to Peppercornz and it was terrible. I've written a review and was going to post it on Yelp but it's so long and so bad, I have been hesitating. Let me just say the food was disgusting, I mean barely edible, and the service was worse. The server made several mistakes: overcharging me for a glass of wine, not bringing anchovies for my Ceasar salad until I had finished it, (they serve their Ceasar with cherry tomatoes and withered carrot shreds), brought us the wrong dessert drink and then when I politely pointed out the wine overcharge on the bill she said the she charged us for the wrong dessert drink too and since it was a dollar less then it would all work out!

                      A pomegranate martini my sister ordered tasted like gasoline, the dip served with the focaccia tasted like mayo mixed with ranch dressing, the sauce on my sister's Shrimp Basilico tasted like glue - I could go on and on but you get the idea. The entrees were all over-priced as well, and would have been even if they had been edible.

                      The only positive thing I can say is they did have an extensive, two-sided specialty drink menu but most were sweet, holiday-themed drinks, so if you like that kind of thing, then go for cocktails. A Gingerbread and Kahula cocktail we had was great. But for dinner, save your money and go to Blue Pointe Bistro instead. Way better food and ambiance for relatively the same price.

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                        beb31 Dec 23, 2008 07:08 AM

                        Thanks for the, er, descriptive review of Peppercornz, cgrrrl (gasoline?) and for reminding me about Blue Pointe Bistro -- I sometimes overlook it because of its location (a congested intersection in Weymouth Landing) and parking situation (they have a lot in the back, but it's often full on a weekend night, leading one to scramble for on-street parking), but they serve great food in a modern space (love the bar area).

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                      winedude Dec 4, 2008 06:00 AM

                      The best places on the South Shore that I've been to in the past year are Solstice, in Kingston, which was terrific the night we ate there, as good as anyplace I've been in the South End., and Sintra, in Braintre, which wasn't as good as that, but I thought was a very solid choice for mid-priced New American food with a slight Portugese bent.

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                        TomH Dec 4, 2008 06:58 AM

                        I will second the Solstice rec. I have been there four or five times now and it has been a great experience every visit. Food is great, service fantastic and a nice atmosphere.

                      2. CulinaryBoner Dec 10, 2008 07:31 AM

                        The Ledger reviews just make me crazy..."My companion liked the bread. It came with pats of butter." Argh!

                        I have had good and bad at Atlantica. I thought Burton's and Scarlet Oak were pretty good. I wanted to like Alba's but the inexperienced staff took away from the experience. I am also curious about the Winery (?)in Pembroke (former Bobby Hackets).

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                          garbageeats Dec 21, 2008 11:30 AM

                          Went to The Winery last week. The restaurant suffers from too many options on the menu. That's right. They have so much stuff on the menu, the quality is lacking. The "reatuarant/table" side of the place has a "cold" atmosphere and the bar (booths and tables) is preferred. I thought it was expensive for four people ($236 including tip) even though we had appetizers and drinks. Server told us her entire life story including breaking the law, family inheritance, and unplanned births of her kids. Not a bad restaurant given the competition in the area (slim) but overall I am not wanting to go back.

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