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PLEASE POST YOUR VOTES HERE: Ultimate Los Angeles Restaurants 2008

maxzook Nov 27, 2008 07:53 PM

Earlier this year, I resumed the tradition started by Mr. Grub in 2005 of running an annual poll of Chowhounders’ favorite Los Angeles Restaurants.

To quote Mr. Grub:

"The concept is simple: everyone is asked to list, in rank order, your top 5 restaurants in Los Angeles County that you would recommend to houndly out-of-town visitors or to chowfriends for a special occasion. Since we worship at the altar of deliciousness, your ranking should be based 75% on food and 25% on everything else."

The 2005 poll results can be found here:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/76226

The 2006 poll results can be found here:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/357211

The 2007 poll results can be found here:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/490712

After the last poll, several people complained that deciding between, say, Urasawa and The Oinkster was an impossible apples-and-oranges choice. So this year, I’m going to try a new twist: we’re going to vote for up to TEN restaurants – five restaurants in the category of over $25 per person for food, and five in the category of $25 or less for food.

For example, here are my choices:

OVER $25

Osteria Mozza
Comme Ça
Hungry Cat
Campanile
Musso and Frank

$25 OR LESS

Langer’s Deli
Caioti
The Oinkster
25 Degrees
Lawton’s Famous Frankfurters (RIP)

Your entries in each category will be weighted arithmetically: 5 points for your first choice; 4 points for your second, 3 for third, 2 for fourth and 1 for fifth.

You may choose to only cast votes in the over-$25 category, or in the $25-and-under, but please don’t vote for the same restaurant in both categories. If different voters cast votes for the same restaurant on both lists, the total points will be tabulated together and the restaurant will be ranked in the category for which it received the most points. (The $25 is meant to be inclusive of food only for an average dinner order per person.)

If you respond with more than 5 choices in either category, only your first 5 choices will be included. If you vote for fewer than five, your choice will be tabulated with as many points as the number you voted for (so if you vote for only three restaurants, your first choice will only carry three points, the second two points, etc.)

It’s okay to vote for a restaurant that closed within the last twelve months (I would appreciate if you flag defunct restos with an RIP tag, as I did for Lawton's). If two or more restaurants with the same name and basic menu get votes (e.g. Father’s Office on Montana or Helms), I will combine the results.

The more replies we receive, the more useful are the poll’s findings, so please do reply. I’ll keep the polls open until December 14 and post the results shortly thereafter.

Again, remember that first choice = 5 points, second choice = 4 points, etc. I will assume the first restaurant in your list will be the first choice and so on, so you don't have to number them.

Go for it!

  1. maxzook Nov 27, 2008 08:13 PM

    If you change your mind, just go ahead and post again, please re-cast your entire vote and not just the changes ... tell me it's a re-vote and I'll take care of it (I'm tracking names, dates and times on my tally, so I will always take your last vote).

    1. f
      floyd_the_barber Nov 27, 2008 08:17 PM

      Langers Deli
      Robin's Wood Fire BBQ
      Casa Bianca
      Din Tai Fung
      Portillo's Hot Dogs

      1 Reply
      1. re: floyd_the_barber
        CookieEater Dec 3, 2008 10:03 PM

        Funny how all 3 of your total posts mention Robin's... hmm... After having the real stuff in the South, I could barely eat Robin's and gave most of it to my dog.

        Over $25:
        Osteria Mozza

        Under $25:
        Sea Harbour (dim sum)
        Golden Deli
        Porto's (ideal destination for pork followed by desserts)
        Barrio Fiesta (another ideal destination for pork)
        Din Tai Fung

        Actually, pretty much all of those are ideal destinations for pork. :)

      2. l
        ldodb Nov 27, 2008 09:40 PM

        OVER $25

        Totoraku
        Go's Mart
        Urasawa
        Spago
        Hatfields

        $25 OR LESS

        Langer’s Deli
        Skafs
        KC BBQ Company
        Joe's Pizza
        Loteria

        1 Reply
        1. re: ldodb
          l
          ldodb Nov 28, 2008 10:41 AM

          Hmm I forgot about portos, i think that would knock loteria off the list.

        2. r
          RicRios Nov 27, 2008 09:42 PM

          <25
          Bella Roma SPQR
          El Parian
          The happy hour at Napa Valley Grill
          The hole in the wall Downtown LA at 719 S Los Angeles Street, at the back of the hallway, lunch only; ask for Doña Paty).
          Dino's chicken ( do they serve anything else? )

          >25
          Craft
          Spago
          Chinois
          Fraiche
          Bistro de l'Hermitage

          ( and no, I'm not voting for any place with "zz" in the name; or for any SBE BS)

          9 Replies
          1. re: RicRios
            JAB Nov 28, 2008 09:20 AM

            "The hole in the wall Downtown LA at 719 S Los Angeles Street, at the back of the hallway, lunch only; ask for Doña Paty)."

            Ric, Please don't leave us hanging on this one. More info. please.

            1. re: RicRios
              maxzook Nov 28, 2008 12:48 PM

              RicRios: Sorry, but I can't count your hole-in-the-wall unless you can come up a name.

              1. re: maxzook
                Das Ubergeek Nov 28, 2008 01:56 PM

                Darn Ric, you'll just have to suck it up and go back to the hole in the wall for lunch. :)

                1. re: Das Ubergeek
                  maxzook Nov 28, 2008 05:05 PM

                  I'll be embarassed if it turns out the place is called "The Hole In The Wall". It's just that a Google search revealed the closest restaurant to that address is a Subway, and somehow I don't think that's what he had in mind.

                  (Seriously, people, I don't think it's unreasonable of me to require that you name the place -- even taco trucks have names ...)

                  1. re: maxzook
                    r
                    RicRios Nov 28, 2008 09:14 PM

                    Sorry folks, it's just a hole in the wall, doesn't have a name.
                    However I perfectly understand logistical problems involved, please just remove from the list.

                    1. re: RicRios
                      l
                      latindancer Nov 28, 2008 09:38 PM

                      I'm completely intrigued with this one....a hole in the wall with no name. Next week I'll go find it and try it.

                      1. re: RicRios
                        maxzook Nov 29, 2008 01:25 PM

                        It's not this place, is it?

                        http://www.bonboneriecafe.com

                        I'm in a better mood today, I'll count it as the "hole in the wall"as long as people don't make a habit of it ("you know, that Italian place at Highland and Melrose, the one with the raw pork fat")

                        1. re: maxzook
                          r
                          RicRios Nov 30, 2008 09:42 PM

                          bonboneriecafe? ROFLMAO!!!

                          1. re: RicRios
                            maxzook Dec 1, 2008 08:14 AM

                            I take it that's a "no" ;)

              2. j
                jb1979 Nov 27, 2008 10:14 PM

                Under $25:

                Jitlada
                Santouka (in Mitsuwa Market)
                Taqueria Sanchez
                Pizzeria Mozza
                Sapp Coffee Shop

                1. Peripatetic Nov 27, 2008 10:28 PM

                  OVER $25

                  Pizzeria Mozza
                  Otafuku Noodle House
                  Lou on Vine
                  AOC
                  Sanuki No Sato

                  $25 OR LESS

                  Langer's Deli
                  Pann's
                  Elite Restaurant (Monterey Park)
                  Oinkster
                  Jeon Ju

                  1. SmokeyDoke Nov 28, 2008 06:15 AM

                    OVER $25

                    Newport Seafood
                    Josies
                    Providence
                    Craft
                    Spago

                    $25 OR LESS
                    Porto's Bakery
                    Jitlada
                    Big Wangs
                    Alondra Wings
                    Zankou Chicken

                    1. y
                      yogachik Nov 28, 2008 07:05 AM

                      Over $25
                      Anisette
                      Via Venetto
                      Spago
                      Nobu
                      Craft

                      Under $25
                      Tacos Por Favor
                      Bay Cities
                      Bar Pinxto
                      Father's Office
                      Chaya Venice at Happy Hour

                      1. martyR Nov 28, 2008 09:00 AM

                        < $25
                        Langers
                        Casa Bianca
                        Noodle House
                        The Nickel
                        Yum Cha Cafe

                        > $25
                        Sea Harbor
                        Babita
                        Elite
                        Nick & Stef's
                        Napa Rose

                        1. b
                          banquisha Nov 28, 2008 11:07 AM

                          over 25:
                          Jiraffe
                          La Cachette
                          Josie
                          Angelini Osteria
                          Wilshire

                          1. b
                            banquisha Nov 28, 2008 11:09 AM

                            under 25
                            izakaya bincho
                            nanbankan
                            pho minh
                            banh mi che cali
                            sakura house

                            1. n
                              nosh Nov 28, 2008 11:26 AM

                              Under $25 -- no particular order:

                              Porky's
                              Carnitas Michaocan (No. Broadway at 19th)
                              Bay Cities
                              Amandine -- croissant, best snack
                              Tacos Por Favor (westside)
                              Philly West -- burger or cheesesteak (honorable mention)

                              Over $25 (barely):

                              Nook Bistro -- dollar per dollar, best value in fine SoCal dining by far (please, bring back the shortribs)

                              1. t
                                TailbackU Nov 28, 2008 03:32 PM

                                Over $25

                                Providence
                                Mastros
                                Hatfields
                                Sushi Nozawa
                                Lucques

                                Under $25
                                Mariela's Tacos
                                il capriccio
                                Wahoo's Fish Tacos
                                Mozza Pizzeria
                                Marios Peruvian

                                1. ElsieDee Nov 28, 2008 04:28 PM

                                  Under $25
                                  - Daisy Mint
                                  - Oinkster
                                  - Merengue (new Cuban bakery in Monrovia)
                                  - Tops (The Original)
                                  - Europane

                                  Honorable Mention: Milano's Deli, RIP - Oh how I miss the falaffel and humus and everything else!

                                  Over $25
                                  - Fatty's in Eagle Rock

                                  (Will amend if more "over 25" occur to me - we really tend to eat at the less-expensive places.)

                                  1. j
                                    jumpingblackdog Nov 28, 2008 04:32 PM

                                    Over $25
                                    Grace
                                    Asenabo
                                    The Foundry
                                    Fleming's Prime Steakhouse & Winebar
                                    Il Grano
                                    Bastide (except that was a couple of chefs ago!)

                                    Under $25
                                    Dominck's
                                    Hot Wings (we're addicted)
                                    M Cafe de Chaya
                                    Aroma
                                    Sushi Gen

                                    1. m
                                      mrhooks Nov 28, 2008 04:41 PM

                                      OVER $25

                                      Urasawa
                                      Totoraku
                                      Providence
                                      AOC
                                      Saddle Peak Lodge

                                      UNDER $25

                                      Asa Ramen
                                      Santouka
                                      Lucky Devils
                                      Philippe's
                                      Pie 'n' Burger

                                      I was going to put down NBC as my #5 under $25, but I don't know what it's like since new ownership took over. If old ownership still counts, knock off Pie 'n' Burger.

                                      1. e
                                        emosbaugh Nov 28, 2008 04:53 PM

                                        <25
                                        clementine
                                        jitlada
                                        bay cities
                                        din tai fung
                                        ye rustic inn

                                        >25
                                        the hungry cat
                                        palate
                                        sushi zo
                                        comme ca
                                        the park

                                        1. n
                                          New Trial Nov 28, 2008 08:25 PM

                                          UNDER:

                                          Langer's
                                          Elite
                                          Clementine
                                          Bay Cities
                                          Guelaguetza (WLA)

                                          OVER:

                                          Osteria Mozza
                                          Ortolan
                                          Sushi Zo
                                          Jar
                                          Fraiche

                                          1. o
                                            oldiebutfoodie Nov 29, 2008 07:14 AM

                                            under $25
                                            Jitlada
                                            Portos
                                            Oinkster
                                            El Huarache Azteca
                                            La Cabanita

                                            1. p
                                              Pineapple099 Nov 29, 2008 07:52 AM

                                              Over $25.00

                                              1. Lawry's Prime Rib
                                              2. Ruth Chris
                                              3. Houstons
                                              4. Spago
                                              5. Arnie Morton's

                                              Under $25.00

                                              1. Bay Cities
                                              2. Fat Burgers
                                              3. Baja Fresh
                                              4. Cheesecake Factory
                                              5. In-N-Out Burger
                                              6. Panda Express

                                              1. lotta_cox Nov 29, 2008 08:07 AM

                                                over $25
                                                Saddle Peak Lodge
                                                The Bazaar
                                                BLT Steak
                                                Mozza
                                                Lucques

                                                under $25
                                                The Park
                                                Urth Cafe
                                                Say Cheese!
                                                Daphne's Greek
                                                Ford's Filling Station

                                                8 Replies
                                                1. re: lotta_cox
                                                  maxzook Nov 29, 2008 02:00 PM

                                                  I'm going to assume that anyone who votes for "Mozza" is voting for the Pizzeria, which was known by that name before the Osteria opened.

                                                  1. re: maxzook
                                                    lotta_cox Nov 30, 2008 09:16 AM

                                                    I was voting for the Osteria. If I had been voting for the pIzzeria, it probably would have been in the $25 and under category. Not a huge fan of pizza.

                                                  2. re: lotta_cox
                                                    lotta_cox Nov 30, 2008 09:17 AM

                                                    I wanted to add Izayoi, but unsure which category. You could easily go under $25 without alcohol, or easily well over.

                                                    1. re: lotta_cox
                                                      b
                                                      bulavinaka Nov 30, 2008 04:24 PM

                                                      I think your concern/conundrum applies to a lot of places that do small plates. I'm thinking the same for Izakaya Bincho. I just went last night and the bill came to $105 before tip. We were a party of four, but two of them were our kids which nixes drinks x 2. The flipside of this is that we ordered two to three dishes too many. The weekend before, it was just my wife and me and the bill came to $80 before tip, but again - we ordered too much by about three dishes. If you include drinks into any restaurant's equation, then even some of the most modest places will break the $25 mark.

                                                      1. re: bulavinaka
                                                        maxzook Dec 1, 2008 08:16 AM

                                                        It doesn't really matter which category you put it under ... it will end up counted in the category where it nets the most points.

                                                        1. re: maxzook
                                                          Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 03:54 PM

                                                          So votes for Izakaya Bincho in the <25 category will be added to votes for Izakaya Bincho in >25 category and vice versa?

                                                          1. re: Peripatetic
                                                            maxzook Dec 3, 2008 06:18 PM

                                                            If Izakaya Bincho received a total of, let's say, 12 points an an under-$25 restaurant and 17 points as a $25-and-over, it would be tallied in the $25-and-over column with 29 points. No restaurant will appear in both lists.

                                                            1. re: maxzook
                                                              Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 10:25 PM

                                                              Got it. That seems very reasonable.

                                                  3. e
                                                    exilekiss Nov 29, 2008 10:22 AM

                                                    Hi maxzook,

                                                    I wanted to thank you for organizing this (and the effort to tabulate, organize it all, etc.). :) This should be fun and helpful.

                                                    (per maxzook, top-most entry is my #1, bottom-most is #5)

                                                    OVER $25

                                                    Urasawa
                                                    Providence
                                                    Craft
                                                    Valentino
                                                    Spago

                                                    $25 OR LESS

                                                    Izakaya Bincho
                                                    Noodle House (Mian Hsiang Yuan)
                                                    Ichimian (also known as "Bamboo Garden" or "Ichimiann")
                                                    Shin Sen Gumi Yakitori (or "Robata-Yakitori" - not the Ramen side)
                                                    Sea Harbour

                                                    4 Replies
                                                    1. re: exilekiss
                                                      ipsedixit Nov 29, 2008 08:39 PM

                                                      Sea Harbour ... 25 or less? How do you figure?

                                                      1. re: ipsedixit
                                                        sku Nov 30, 2008 05:59 PM

                                                        I suppose it depends how much you order. I've definitely done Sea Harbor with a big group for less than $25 per person, though with a small group, we tend to be over $25 per person. Economies of scale and all...

                                                        1. re: sku
                                                          ipsedixit Nov 30, 2008 08:03 PM

                                                          Wait, are you talking dim sum or dinner?

                                                          Most dinner entrees are in the 15-20 dollar range, with vegetables being in the low end (10-14) and seafood ranging as high as 100+.

                                                          I don't see how you can dine at Sea Harbour for 25/person.

                                                        2. re: ipsedixit
                                                          e
                                                          exilekiss Nov 30, 2008 09:47 PM

                                                          Hi ipsedixit,

                                                          LOL. :) I wanted to add "Extra Notes" for each of my votes but I didn't want to slow down maxzook's tallying.

                                                          "Yes," I was talking about Dim Sum, not Dinner (which would be in the Above $25 category, but I'm not voting for Dinner at Sea Harbour). Thanks. :)

                                                      2. SauceSupreme Nov 29, 2008 10:41 AM

                                                        Over $25
                                                        Urasawa
                                                        Hungry Cat
                                                        Comme Ca
                                                        Park BBQ
                                                        Sushi Ike

                                                        Under $25
                                                        Jitlada
                                                        Izakaya Bincho
                                                        Oinkster
                                                        Asa Ramen
                                                        Sokongdong

                                                        1. scurvy Nov 29, 2008 10:44 AM

                                                          <$25
                                                          Pollo a la Brasa
                                                          Tacos Baja Ensenada
                                                          Langer's
                                                          The Park
                                                          Mendocino Farms

                                                          >$25
                                                          Hatfield's
                                                          Palate
                                                          Osteria Mozza
                                                          Canele
                                                          Sushi Zo

                                                          1. d
                                                            donnival Nov 29, 2008 10:57 AM

                                                            Over $25:
                                                            Hatfield's
                                                            Providence
                                                            Lucques
                                                            Chosun Galbee
                                                            Comme Ça

                                                            Under $25:
                                                            Nook Bistro
                                                            Pizzeria Mozza
                                                            Sokongdong Soontofu
                                                            Asa Ramen
                                                            Gina Lee's Bistro

                                                            1. n
                                                              NAspy Nov 29, 2008 01:05 PM

                                                              under $25

                                                              1. Ciro's
                                                              2. Mandarin Noodle House
                                                              3. India Sweets n Spices (on Venice in Culver City)
                                                              4. Messob
                                                              5. In and Out

                                                              Over $25

                                                              1. Sushi Zo
                                                              2. JiRaffe
                                                              3. Hatfields
                                                              4. Fraiche
                                                              5 Wilshire

                                                              1. c
                                                                CoffeeMonkee Nov 29, 2008 05:37 PM

                                                                Over $25
                                                                Animal
                                                                Sona
                                                                Hungry Cat
                                                                Pizzaria Mozza
                                                                Comme Ca

                                                                Under $25
                                                                Square One
                                                                Caioti Pizza Cafe
                                                                Father's Office
                                                                Santouka Ramen
                                                                Pita Kitchen

                                                                1. Tom P Nov 29, 2008 06:25 PM

                                                                  Over 25:

                                                                  Jar
                                                                  Lucques
                                                                  Madeo
                                                                  Musso's
                                                                  Taylor's

                                                                  Under $ 25:

                                                                  Philippe's
                                                                  Canele
                                                                  Pizzaria Mozza
                                                                  The Park
                                                                  Langers

                                                                  1. sku Nov 29, 2008 08:36 PM

                                                                    Over $25:
                                                                    Melisse
                                                                    Craft
                                                                    Mastro's
                                                                    Grace
                                                                    Babita

                                                                    Under $25
                                                                    La Morenita de Oaxaca
                                                                    La Fonda Anteoqueno
                                                                    Sea Harbor
                                                                    Langer's
                                                                    Fassica

                                                                    1. c
                                                                      Cinemaverite1 Nov 30, 2008 12:26 AM

                                                                      Under $25

                                                                      Amandine
                                                                      Square One Dining
                                                                      Bay Cities
                                                                      Ham Hung Naeng Myun (on 8th and Ardmore)
                                                                      Pizzeria Mozza

                                                                      1. f
                                                                        fooddude37 Nov 30, 2008 08:10 AM

                                                                        Over 25
                                                                        Urasawa
                                                                        Mori Sushi
                                                                        Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                        Providence
                                                                        Lou on Vine

                                                                        Under 25
                                                                        Langers
                                                                        Las 7 Regiones de Oaxaca
                                                                        Ruen Pair
                                                                        Jaragua Restaurant
                                                                        Clementine's

                                                                        1. katydid13 Nov 30, 2008 09:33 AM

                                                                          1. Cafe Verona
                                                                          2. Marouch
                                                                          3. Lou on Vine
                                                                          4. Lucques
                                                                          5. Tama Sushi (I think this is an RIP)

                                                                          1 Reply
                                                                          1. re: katydid13
                                                                            maxzook Nov 30, 2008 02:48 PM

                                                                            Yes, Tama is an RIP:

                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/568774

                                                                          2. mylastbite Nov 30, 2008 08:23 PM

                                                                            OVER $25 ANIMAL

                                                                            1 Reply
                                                                            1. re: mylastbite
                                                                              maxzook Dec 1, 2008 08:30 AM

                                                                              Remember that if you only vote for one restaurant, that restaurant gets 1 point. If you vote for two, your first choice gets 2 votes and your second choice gets 1, and so on.

                                                                            2. h
                                                                              HollywoodLocal Dec 1, 2008 02:28 AM

                                                                              >25
                                                                              Asanebo
                                                                              Sushi Sushi
                                                                              Jinpachi
                                                                              Cafe Des Artises
                                                                              Beso

                                                                              <25
                                                                              Pink Pepper
                                                                              Vivoli Cafe
                                                                              Urth Caffe
                                                                              JR's BBQ
                                                                              Loteria

                                                                              1. a
                                                                                Adsvino Dec 1, 2008 04:54 AM

                                                                                >25
                                                                                Urasawa
                                                                                Providence
                                                                                Il Grano
                                                                                Gordon Ramsay
                                                                                Lucques

                                                                                <25
                                                                                Santouka Ramen
                                                                                Loteria Hollywood
                                                                                Bella Roma SPQR
                                                                                Nakkara Thai
                                                                                Antica Pizza

                                                                                1. d
                                                                                  dkawai Dec 1, 2008 06:02 AM

                                                                                  >$25
                                                                                  Nishimura
                                                                                  Sona
                                                                                  Maestros
                                                                                  Melisse
                                                                                  Mei Long Village

                                                                                  <$25
                                                                                  Eight Cafe
                                                                                  Saigon Deli (Monterey Park)
                                                                                  Bollini's Pizzeria
                                                                                  Langers
                                                                                  Lilliana's (tamales)

                                                                                  1. Schweinhaxen Dec 1, 2008 07:19 AM

                                                                                    OVER $25

                                                                                    Osteria Mozza
                                                                                    Sushi Zo
                                                                                    Providence
                                                                                    Wolfgang's
                                                                                    Newport Seafood

                                                                                    $25 OR LESS

                                                                                    Langer’s Deli
                                                                                    Din Tai Fung
                                                                                    Pann's
                                                                                    Vito's
                                                                                    Yuca's

                                                                                    1. a
                                                                                      altstarr Dec 1, 2008 09:27 AM

                                                                                      Over $25
                                                                                      1. Sea Harbour
                                                                                      2. Valentino's
                                                                                      3. Spago's
                                                                                      4. Chosun Galbi
                                                                                      5. Lawry's

                                                                                      Under $25
                                                                                      1. Elite Restaurant
                                                                                      2. Javan
                                                                                      3. Father's Office
                                                                                      4. Pho 79
                                                                                      5. Daikokuya

                                                                                      1. Hershey Bomar Dec 1, 2008 10:14 AM

                                                                                        Less than $25
                                                                                        Langers
                                                                                        KyoChon
                                                                                        Best Fish Tacos in Ensenada
                                                                                        Jitlada
                                                                                        Phillips Q
                                                                                        Daisy Mint
                                                                                        Marouch

                                                                                        1. Grog Dec 1, 2008 10:33 AM

                                                                                          + $25.00

                                                                                          1. The Dinning Room at the Langham - Pasadena
                                                                                          2. Providence
                                                                                          3. Z Sushi
                                                                                          4. Angelini Osteria
                                                                                          5. Fraiche

                                                                                          - $25.00

                                                                                          1. Viet Noodle Bar
                                                                                          2. Ruen Pair
                                                                                          3. Local
                                                                                          4. Polla a la Brasa
                                                                                          5. La Estrella

                                                                                          This is tough because I'd also like to vote for the Pupusa vendor at the Hollywood Farmer's market (also at Atwater) on Sundays. Not only do I not know the business name (and there is one), I can't figure out which one they would replace...damn!

                                                                                          1 Reply
                                                                                          1. re: Grog
                                                                                            maxzook Dec 1, 2008 11:32 AM

                                                                                            Both markets have pages here with e-mail contacts:

                                                                                            http://www.farmernet.com

                                                                                          2. c
                                                                                            CaringBear Dec 1, 2008 01:08 PM

                                                                                            >25
                                                                                            Urasawa
                                                                                            Craft
                                                                                            Providence
                                                                                            Sona
                                                                                            Bazar

                                                                                            <25
                                                                                            Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                            Loteria
                                                                                            Boneyard Bistro
                                                                                            Oinkster
                                                                                            Bay Cities

                                                                                            Bazar is very new, but I was quite impressed. And 1 year ago it would have been Bastide, but not with the new chef...

                                                                                            1. soniabegonia Dec 1, 2008 02:32 PM

                                                                                              Over $25
                                                                                              Providence
                                                                                              Urasawa
                                                                                              Kagaya
                                                                                              Hatfield's
                                                                                              Grace

                                                                                              Under $25
                                                                                              Nanbankan
                                                                                              Square One
                                                                                              Clementine
                                                                                              Daikokuya
                                                                                              Ruen Pair

                                                                                              1. maxzook Dec 2, 2008 08:30 AM

                                                                                                Someone asked me to clarify the five-restaurant rule.

                                                                                                If you vote for more than five restaurants, only the first five that you list will be counted (no "ties").

                                                                                                If you vote for less than five restaurants, the points will be apportioned as follows:

                                                                                                Four restaurants

                                                                                                1st choice: 4 points
                                                                                                2nd choice: 3 points
                                                                                                3rd choice: 2 points
                                                                                                4th choice: 1 point

                                                                                                ---

                                                                                                Three restaurants

                                                                                                1st choice: 3 points
                                                                                                2nd choice: 2 points
                                                                                                3rd choice: 1 point

                                                                                                ---

                                                                                                Two restaurants

                                                                                                1st choice: 2 points
                                                                                                2nd choice: 1 point

                                                                                                ---

                                                                                                One restaurant: 1 point

                                                                                                (This rule is so that people who vote for less than five restaurants don't skew the points.)

                                                                                                3 Replies
                                                                                                1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                  Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 05:00 PM

                                                                                                  Not to be too much of a geek, but most voting systems I'm aware of work in the opposite way:

                                                                                                  Five selected:

                                                                                                  1st choice: 5 points
                                                                                                  2nd choice: 4 points
                                                                                                  3rd choice: 3 points
                                                                                                  4th choice: 2 points
                                                                                                  5th choice: 1 point

                                                                                                  Three selected:

                                                                                                  1st choice: 5 points
                                                                                                  2nd choice: 4 points
                                                                                                  3rd choice: 3 points

                                                                                                  One selected:

                                                                                                  1st (and only) choice: 5 points

                                                                                                  Anyway, it's easy to intentionally skew points for a single favorite if someone really wants to. Here's an (extreme) example:

                                                                                                  1st choice: Langer's
                                                                                                  2nd choice: Denny's
                                                                                                  3rd choice: IHOP
                                                                                                  4th choice: Tony Roma's
                                                                                                  5th choice: Tom's Burgers

                                                                                                  1. re: Peripatetic
                                                                                                    maxzook Dec 3, 2008 06:34 PM

                                                                                                    You left off Shakey's ;P

                                                                                                    Anyway, the number of voters has declined in each of the Ultimate Restaurant polls since Mr. Grub started this four years ago, and as the sampling declines, the power of a single voter to affect the ranking increases. I'm trying to convince voters to put in enough thought to come up with the full five choices, and to think beyond their short lists. That's one reason I broke out the over-25-vs-under this year.

                                                                                                    And you're right that a voter could skew his points the way you indicated, but I haven't seen any votes to date that would seem to reflect any such trend. Speaking for myself as a Langer's fan, if you DID intend that to be your vote I wouldn't object, seeing as how Langer's was in eleventh place two years ago but received NO VOTES last year.

                                                                                                    1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                      Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 10:37 PM

                                                                                                      I see your point, and in any case, there's probably little incentive for anyone to attempt to game the vote. It's not like turn-of-the-century Florida. :)

                                                                                                      Also, yes, Langer's was my first choice for <$25 on my "ballot" (above). It wasn't a difficult decision.

                                                                                                2. russkar Dec 2, 2008 11:27 AM

                                                                                                  Urasawa
                                                                                                  Melisse
                                                                                                  Providence
                                                                                                  Spago
                                                                                                  Ortolan

                                                                                                  Angelini Osteria (light Lunch)
                                                                                                  Langer's (#19)
                                                                                                  Sushi Gen (Lunch Special)
                                                                                                  Morton's Lunch Burger (15-)
                                                                                                  Mi India Bonita (still the best Albondigas)

                                                                                                  1. acidspit Dec 2, 2008 11:36 AM

                                                                                                    Providence
                                                                                                    Grace
                                                                                                    Sona
                                                                                                    Comme Ca
                                                                                                    Hungry Cat

                                                                                                    1. z
                                                                                                      zam Dec 2, 2008 01:47 PM

                                                                                                      25+
                                                                                                      Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                      Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                      Fraiche
                                                                                                      Amarone
                                                                                                      Akasha

                                                                                                      25-
                                                                                                      Fabrocini's
                                                                                                      The Hummus Bar
                                                                                                      La Paz
                                                                                                      Bamboo
                                                                                                      Copper Chimney

                                                                                                      1. maxzook Dec 3, 2008 09:43 AM

                                                                                                        push

                                                                                                        1 Reply
                                                                                                        1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                          maxzook Dec 4, 2008 03:54 PM

                                                                                                          push push

                                                                                                        2. n
                                                                                                          nick_r Dec 3, 2008 10:58 AM

                                                                                                          Over $25:
                                                                                                          Ortolan
                                                                                                          Melisse
                                                                                                          Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                          Lou
                                                                                                          Gjelina

                                                                                                          Under $25:
                                                                                                          Father's Office
                                                                                                          M Cafe de Chaya
                                                                                                          Canele
                                                                                                          Tender Greens
                                                                                                          Lula

                                                                                                          1. trishyb Dec 3, 2008 02:05 PM

                                                                                                            <$25
                                                                                                            m cafe de chaya
                                                                                                            the griddle cafe
                                                                                                            joan's on third
                                                                                                            clementine
                                                                                                            bossa nova

                                                                                                            >$25
                                                                                                            angelini osteria
                                                                                                            jar
                                                                                                            animal
                                                                                                            drago
                                                                                                            mastro's

                                                                                                            1. h
                                                                                                              hambriento Dec 3, 2008 10:51 PM

                                                                                                              Over:
                                                                                                              Urasawa
                                                                                                              Sona
                                                                                                              Providence
                                                                                                              Spago
                                                                                                              Palate

                                                                                                              Under:
                                                                                                              Monte Alban
                                                                                                              Oinkster
                                                                                                              Father's Office
                                                                                                              La Cabanita
                                                                                                              Yucas

                                                                                                              1. i
                                                                                                                issey Dec 4, 2008 12:44 AM

                                                                                                                Over
                                                                                                                Urasawa
                                                                                                                Melisse
                                                                                                                Providence
                                                                                                                Mortons
                                                                                                                Spago

                                                                                                                Under
                                                                                                                Mario's
                                                                                                                Sushi Gen (lunch)
                                                                                                                Bossa Nova

                                                                                                                1. v
                                                                                                                  victoriashe Dec 4, 2008 04:42 PM

                                                                                                                  More than $25:

                                                                                                                  Citrus at Social
                                                                                                                  Madeo
                                                                                                                  Lucques
                                                                                                                  Musso & Frank
                                                                                                                  Hungry Cat

                                                                                                                  Less than $25:

                                                                                                                  Casa Bianca
                                                                                                                  Tito's Tacos
                                                                                                                  Langer's
                                                                                                                  Urth Caffe
                                                                                                                  Mulberry Street

                                                                                                                  1. o
                                                                                                                    Obessed Dec 4, 2008 04:57 PM

                                                                                                                    Over $25

                                                                                                                    Cut
                                                                                                                    Hungry Cat
                                                                                                                    Animal
                                                                                                                    Ortolon
                                                                                                                    Jar

                                                                                                                    Under $25
                                                                                                                    Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                    Vito's
                                                                                                                    Vivoli
                                                                                                                    Jitlada
                                                                                                                    Father's Office - Culver City

                                                                                                                    1. maxzook Dec 5, 2008 08:37 AM

                                                                                                                      Don't forget to vote!

                                                                                                                      1. h
                                                                                                                        houseberg Dec 5, 2008 10:31 AM

                                                                                                                        Osteria La Buca (Downtown)
                                                                                                                        KoKeKoKo Yakitori (Little Tokyo)
                                                                                                                        Melisse (Westside)
                                                                                                                        BiMi Sushi (Westside)
                                                                                                                        Mastros Steak House (Beverly Hills)

                                                                                                                        Under 25

                                                                                                                        ZenKou
                                                                                                                        Din Tai Fung

                                                                                                                        1. t
                                                                                                                          tykapfh Dec 5, 2008 10:48 AM

                                                                                                                          Under $25
                                                                                                                          Beverly Soon Tofu
                                                                                                                          Simpang
                                                                                                                          Terried Sake House
                                                                                                                          Taco Zone (Truck)
                                                                                                                          Joan's

                                                                                                                          Over $25
                                                                                                                          Hatfield's
                                                                                                                          Jiraffe

                                                                                                                          ...a short list indeed.

                                                                                                                          1. a
                                                                                                                            a213b Dec 5, 2008 11:31 AM

                                                                                                                            >$25
                                                                                                                            Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                                            Craft
                                                                                                                            Sona
                                                                                                                            Jar
                                                                                                                            Bazaar

                                                                                                                            <$25
                                                                                                                            Boneyard Bistro
                                                                                                                            Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                            Father's Office (Culver City)
                                                                                                                            KC BBQ
                                                                                                                            Pita Kitchen (Sherman Oaks, in case there are others)

                                                                                                                            1. v
                                                                                                                              vinosnob Dec 5, 2008 03:41 PM

                                                                                                                              UNDER:

                                                                                                                              Eduardo's Border Grill
                                                                                                                              CA Chicken Cafe
                                                                                                                              Clementine
                                                                                                                              Bay Cities
                                                                                                                              Sunin
                                                                                                                              El Super Taco
                                                                                                                              Tlapazola Grill

                                                                                                                              OVER:

                                                                                                                              Providence
                                                                                                                              Ortolan
                                                                                                                              Fraiche
                                                                                                                              Josie
                                                                                                                              Angelini Osteria
                                                                                                                              A.O.C.

                                                                                                                              5 Replies
                                                                                                                              1. re: vinosnob
                                                                                                                                a
                                                                                                                                Adsvino Dec 6, 2008 06:31 AM

                                                                                                                                I don't think they will be counting all of those....

                                                                                                                                1. re: Adsvino
                                                                                                                                  maxzook Dec 6, 2008 03:41 PM

                                                                                                                                  Just the first five in each list. Re-vote if you narrow the list down.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                                                    v
                                                                                                                                    vinosnob Dec 7, 2008 03:27 PM

                                                                                                                                    Gotcha, REVISED list below:

                                                                                                                                    UNDER:

                                                                                                                                    Eduardo's Border Grill
                                                                                                                                    Clementine
                                                                                                                                    Bay Cities
                                                                                                                                    Sunin
                                                                                                                                    Tlapazola Grill

                                                                                                                                    OVER:

                                                                                                                                    Providence
                                                                                                                                    Ortolan
                                                                                                                                    Josie
                                                                                                                                    Angelini Osteria
                                                                                                                                    A.O.C.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: vinosnob
                                                                                                                                      maxzook Dec 8, 2008 08:17 AM

                                                                                                                                      Got it ...

                                                                                                                                      1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                                                        v
                                                                                                                                        vinosnob Dec 8, 2008 03:23 PM

                                                                                                                                        Thanks!

                                                                                                                              2. l
                                                                                                                                lwinkelman Dec 5, 2008 06:01 PM

                                                                                                                                Over $25:
                                                                                                                                1) Providence
                                                                                                                                2) Ortolan
                                                                                                                                3) Palate
                                                                                                                                4) Melisse
                                                                                                                                5) The Foundry

                                                                                                                                Under 25
                                                                                                                                1) Guelaguetza
                                                                                                                                2) 101 Noodle Express
                                                                                                                                3) Baby Blues BBQ
                                                                                                                                4) Jitlada
                                                                                                                                5) Langers

                                                                                                                                1. l
                                                                                                                                  LMelba Dec 5, 2008 08:23 PM

                                                                                                                                  Under $25
                                                                                                                                  Joseph's Deli, On Ventura in Woodland Hills, used to be a Label's Table
                                                                                                                                  Artisan Cheese Gallery (despite the awful service)
                                                                                                                                  Miya Sushi
                                                                                                                                  Caioti

                                                                                                                                  Over $25
                                                                                                                                  Mako
                                                                                                                                  Spago
                                                                                                                                  Seashell
                                                                                                                                  Chaya Venice
                                                                                                                                  Drago

                                                                                                                                  2 Replies
                                                                                                                                  1. re: LMelba
                                                                                                                                    l
                                                                                                                                    LMelba Dec 6, 2008 10:00 PM

                                                                                                                                    Adding one more for the Under $25, in the final spot I'm adding M Cafe de Chaya.
                                                                                                                                    And in the Over $25 I'm replacing Chaya Venice with Campanile.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: LMelba
                                                                                                                                      maxzook Dec 7, 2008 02:42 PM

                                                                                                                                      Noted.

                                                                                                                                  2. cheflaszlo Dec 5, 2008 10:56 PM

                                                                                                                                    Over $25: Mélisse
                                                                                                                                    Under $25 : Sushi Sho

                                                                                                                                    thanks

                                                                                                                                    1 Reply
                                                                                                                                    1. re: cheflaszlo
                                                                                                                                      maxzook Dec 6, 2008 03:41 PM

                                                                                                                                      Just a reminder, these will count for one point each unless you want to re-vote with a longer list (up to five in each poll).

                                                                                                                                    2. b
                                                                                                                                      barbarena Dec 6, 2008 10:12 PM

                                                                                                                                      Over $25
                                                                                                                                      Sona
                                                                                                                                      Valentino
                                                                                                                                      A.O.C.
                                                                                                                                      Hungry Cat
                                                                                                                                      Drago

                                                                                                                                      Under $25
                                                                                                                                      Krua Thai
                                                                                                                                      Monte Alban
                                                                                                                                      La Playita
                                                                                                                                      M Cafe de Chaya
                                                                                                                                      Tamara's Tamales

                                                                                                                                      1. d
                                                                                                                                        dare2d4l Dec 7, 2008 02:54 PM

                                                                                                                                        over $25:
                                                                                                                                        hatfield
                                                                                                                                        joe's in venice
                                                                                                                                        urasawa
                                                                                                                                        sushi zo
                                                                                                                                        stonehill tavern (does it count since it's more down there? if not, then orris)

                                                                                                                                        under $25 (all ethnic! :))
                                                                                                                                        jitlada
                                                                                                                                        bilal
                                                                                                                                        indian restaurant (taiwanese place)
                                                                                                                                        el super taco
                                                                                                                                        simpang asia

                                                                                                                                        2 Replies
                                                                                                                                        1. re: dare2d4l
                                                                                                                                          d
                                                                                                                                          dare2d4l Dec 7, 2008 03:13 PM

                                                                                                                                          btw, i don't suppose we can have a seperate voting threads for the types of food? that way we can settle the best burger/sushi/tacos ....if only for a while.....

                                                                                                                                          1. re: dare2d4l
                                                                                                                                            maxzook Dec 7, 2008 03:22 PM

                                                                                                                                            Next year I think I'll allow restos from the whole Los Angeles Area as CH defines it, but this year it's still an LA-County-only poll ... so, Orris it is.

                                                                                                                                          2. caveatempty Dec 7, 2008 06:42 PM

                                                                                                                                            Thank you for continuing this tradition, Maxzook.

                                                                                                                                            Over $25

                                                                                                                                            1) Spago
                                                                                                                                            2) Palate
                                                                                                                                            3) Providence
                                                                                                                                            4) Madeo
                                                                                                                                            5) Osteria Mozza

                                                                                                                                            Under $25
                                                                                                                                            1) Park's BBQ
                                                                                                                                            2) Polka
                                                                                                                                            3) Carnitas Michaocan
                                                                                                                                            4) Langers
                                                                                                                                            5) Makkah Halah

                                                                                                                                            1. m
                                                                                                                                              mdpilam Dec 7, 2008 08:12 PM

                                                                                                                                              <$25
                                                                                                                                              1) Langers
                                                                                                                                              2) El Chato (taco truck)
                                                                                                                                              3) Father's Office
                                                                                                                                              4) Jitlada
                                                                                                                                              5) The India Restaurant

                                                                                                                                              1. maxzook Dec 9, 2008 09:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                The poll will close at about 6 pm or so on Sunday, December 14. Don't forget to vote!

                                                                                                                                                2 Replies
                                                                                                                                                1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                                                                  r
                                                                                                                                                  RicRios Dec 9, 2008 10:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Voting station used to stay open for a full month, results announced early Jan.
                                                                                                                                                  What's going on Max, not getting enough federal funds for the project?

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: RicRios
                                                                                                                                                    maxzook Dec 9, 2008 03:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I probably should've gotten the poll up a few days earlier this year. I'm leaving town next week till after New Year's and I won't have very good Internet access where I'm going so I wanted it up before I left.

                                                                                                                                                    We'll see if it affects the final turnout ... so far we're about on tract with last year.

                                                                                                                                                2. RacerX Dec 9, 2008 10:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for taking the time to do this Max!

                                                                                                                                                  <25
                                                                                                                                                  1Langers
                                                                                                                                                  2 Din Tai Fung
                                                                                                                                                  3 Bay Cities Deli
                                                                                                                                                  4 Philippes
                                                                                                                                                  5 Barones' Pizza

                                                                                                                                                  >25
                                                                                                                                                  1 Lawry's
                                                                                                                                                  2 Mastros
                                                                                                                                                  3 Shibuya Sushi
                                                                                                                                                  4 Kings Fish House
                                                                                                                                                  5 Orris

                                                                                                                                                  RIP to Tama Sushi and Gorikee which would have made this list.

                                                                                                                                                  C'mon people, let's vote!!!

                                                                                                                                                  1. d
                                                                                                                                                    DeskPotato Dec 9, 2008 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                    < $25
                                                                                                                                                    1. Swan Thai Food
                                                                                                                                                    2. Bay Cities Deli
                                                                                                                                                    3. Barone's
                                                                                                                                                    4. Gorikee
                                                                                                                                                    5. Taqueria El Tapatio

                                                                                                                                                    > $25
                                                                                                                                                    1. Mastro's
                                                                                                                                                    2. Shik Do Rak
                                                                                                                                                    3. Orris

                                                                                                                                                    <Not a lot of 'fine-dining' for me this year :-( )>

                                                                                                                                                    1. avivale Dec 9, 2008 04:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                      My first year voting!! So many choices, I'm sure I'm forgetting something...

                                                                                                                                                      OVER $25

                                                                                                                                                      Saddle Peak Lodge
                                                                                                                                                      Comme Ca
                                                                                                                                                      Red White + Bluezz
                                                                                                                                                      The Foundry
                                                                                                                                                      Maison Akira

                                                                                                                                                      $25 OR LESS

                                                                                                                                                      La Cabanita
                                                                                                                                                      Spitz
                                                                                                                                                      Fish Grill
                                                                                                                                                      Surya
                                                                                                                                                      Dr. Hogly Wogly's

                                                                                                                                                      1. t
                                                                                                                                                        theMeek Dec 10, 2008 08:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Over $25:
                                                                                                                                                        1. Osteria la Buca
                                                                                                                                                        2. Akbar
                                                                                                                                                        ... guess I don't eat at expensive places much. If I think of more in the next 4 days, I'll re-vote

                                                                                                                                                        Under $25:
                                                                                                                                                        1. Native Foods (I went to the one in Costa Mesa)
                                                                                                                                                        2. M Cafe de Chaya
                                                                                                                                                        3. The Griddle Cafe
                                                                                                                                                        4. Real Food Daily (I went to the one in Santa Monica)
                                                                                                                                                        5. Dino's (pizza place in Burbank)

                                                                                                                                                        1 Reply
                                                                                                                                                        1. re: theMeek
                                                                                                                                                          maxzook Dec 10, 2008 08:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                          If there's a Native Foods in L.A. County I can count it, but the OC doesn't count for this year's survey.

                                                                                                                                                          Go ahead and re-vote, I'll count your last entry.

                                                                                                                                                        2. hyacinthgirl Dec 10, 2008 10:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for doing this!

                                                                                                                                                          Over
                                                                                                                                                          1. Palate
                                                                                                                                                          2. A.O.C
                                                                                                                                                          3. Spago
                                                                                                                                                          4. Katsuya (Brentwood locale)

                                                                                                                                                          Under
                                                                                                                                                          1. Amandine Patisserie
                                                                                                                                                          2. Cayenne
                                                                                                                                                          3. Aroma Bakery Cafe (on Sunset)
                                                                                                                                                          4. Portos
                                                                                                                                                          5. Antica Pizzeria

                                                                                                                                                          1. l
                                                                                                                                                            ljeanne Dec 10, 2008 10:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Over $25:
                                                                                                                                                            Little Door
                                                                                                                                                            AOC
                                                                                                                                                            Joe's in Venice
                                                                                                                                                            Chaya Venice

                                                                                                                                                            Under $25:
                                                                                                                                                            Bulan Thai
                                                                                                                                                            Joe's Pizza in Santa Monica
                                                                                                                                                            Bread & Porridge
                                                                                                                                                            Hugo's
                                                                                                                                                            Ruen Pair

                                                                                                                                                            1. maxzook Dec 10, 2008 03:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                              For those wanting to vote for Orange County restaurants, go to OCAnn's Ultimate OC Restaurant Poll:

                                                                                                                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/579058

                                                                                                                                                              1. s
                                                                                                                                                                scottyp34 Dec 10, 2008 05:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                Over $25

                                                                                                                                                                Providence
                                                                                                                                                                Craft
                                                                                                                                                                Lucques
                                                                                                                                                                Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                                Hungry Cat

                                                                                                                                                                1. r
                                                                                                                                                                  ronsilverado Dec 10, 2008 07:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  over:
                                                                                                                                                                  hiko sushi
                                                                                                                                                                  fraiche
                                                                                                                                                                  craft
                                                                                                                                                                  hungry cat
                                                                                                                                                                  pizzeria mozza

                                                                                                                                                                  under:
                                                                                                                                                                  taco zone
                                                                                                                                                                  marouch
                                                                                                                                                                  square one dining
                                                                                                                                                                  daikokuya
                                                                                                                                                                  bay cities

                                                                                                                                                                  1. maxzook Dec 11, 2008 09:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Voting closes this Sunday ... only four days to go!

                                                                                                                                                                    1. swojahn Dec 11, 2008 09:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      under:
                                                                                                                                                                      Tacos Por Favor (SM)
                                                                                                                                                                      Clementine
                                                                                                                                                                      Father's office (Culver City)
                                                                                                                                                                      Le Petite Cafe (SM)
                                                                                                                                                                      Lula (SM)

                                                                                                                                                                      over:
                                                                                                                                                                      Capo
                                                                                                                                                                      Craft
                                                                                                                                                                      Hiko Sushi
                                                                                                                                                                      Patina
                                                                                                                                                                      Saddle Peak Lodge

                                                                                                                                                                      1. l
                                                                                                                                                                        liltamby5 Dec 11, 2008 11:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        I really like Urth cafe. They have great salads and panini's here!

                                                                                                                                                                        1. s
                                                                                                                                                                          slbear Dec 11, 2008 12:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          OVER $25
                                                                                                                                                                          Spago
                                                                                                                                                                          Craft
                                                                                                                                                                          Grace
                                                                                                                                                                          Sushi Zo
                                                                                                                                                                          Angelini Osteria

                                                                                                                                                                          $25 OR LESS
                                                                                                                                                                          Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                                          Father's Office
                                                                                                                                                                          Langers
                                                                                                                                                                          Sushi Gen
                                                                                                                                                                          Santouka

                                                                                                                                                                          1. e
                                                                                                                                                                            EricW Dec 11, 2008 04:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            LA $25 and Under: Jitlada, Noodle House, My Taco, Pollos a la Brasa, Europane

                                                                                                                                                                            But really, Elite, Oinkster, Langer's, 101 Noodle Express, Renu Nakorn, Huarache Azteca, Shamshiri Grill, Red Top Burgers, Father's Office, Casa Bianca, Din Tai Fung, Golden Deli, Banh Mi Che Cali, Barrio Fiesta/Fiesta sa Barrio, Skafs, Loteria, El Parian, Porto's, Zankou, Carnitas Michoacan, Pie 'n' Burger, Phillippe's, Mei Long Village, Tacos Baja Ensenada, Primo's Doughnuts, La Cabanita, Susina Bakery, Tender Greens, Puro Sabor, Tamales Liliana, and Krua Thai all have a case to make, and I still need to try Pann's, Bay Cities, Pho Minh, Izakaya Bincho, Spicy BBQ, Porky's, Santouka, Cassell's, Robata Yakitori, and Phillips BBQ!

                                                                                                                                                                            What a city for eating reasonably.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. k
                                                                                                                                                                              kjs Dec 11, 2008 05:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              over $25 -
                                                                                                                                                                              providence
                                                                                                                                                                              melisse
                                                                                                                                                                              mastro's
                                                                                                                                                                              aoc
                                                                                                                                                                              Anisette

                                                                                                                                                                              under $25
                                                                                                                                                                              banh mi che cali
                                                                                                                                                                              golden deli
                                                                                                                                                                              donut man
                                                                                                                                                                              bollini's pizzeria
                                                                                                                                                                              sea harbour

                                                                                                                                                                              1. g
                                                                                                                                                                                greengelato Dec 11, 2008 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                over:
                                                                                                                                                                                pizzeria mozza
                                                                                                                                                                                fraiche
                                                                                                                                                                                sushi zo

                                                                                                                                                                                under:
                                                                                                                                                                                tender greens!!
                                                                                                                                                                                din tai fung
                                                                                                                                                                                santouka ramen
                                                                                                                                                                                father's office
                                                                                                                                                                                al gelato

                                                                                                                                                                                1. maxzook Dec 12, 2008 09:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Voting closes in about forty-eight-hours ... don't miss the deadline!

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. p
                                                                                                                                                                                    PaliBruin Dec 13, 2008 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    OVER
                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Angelini Osteria
                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Melisse
                                                                                                                                                                                    3. La Terza
                                                                                                                                                                                    4. A.O.C.
                                                                                                                                                                                    5. Osteria Mozza

                                                                                                                                                                                    UNDER
                                                                                                                                                                                    1. King Taco
                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Phillipes
                                                                                                                                                                                    3. Juniors
                                                                                                                                                                                    4.Casa Escobar (Santa Monica)
                                                                                                                                                                                    5. Carls Jr.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. honkman Dec 13, 2008 11:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      >25:

                                                                                                                                                                                      Providence
                                                                                                                                                                                      Spago
                                                                                                                                                                                      Hatfields
                                                                                                                                                                                      Fraiche
                                                                                                                                                                                      Pizzaeria Mozza

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Clare K Dec 14, 2008 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Over $25:

                                                                                                                                                                                        Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                                                        Bar Marmont
                                                                                                                                                                                        Melograno
                                                                                                                                                                                        Hatfield's
                                                                                                                                                                                        Mike & Anne's

                                                                                                                                                                                        Under $25
                                                                                                                                                                                        Europane
                                                                                                                                                                                        Casa Bianca
                                                                                                                                                                                        Langer's Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                        Yuca's
                                                                                                                                                                                        Coffee Table, Eagle Rock

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. maxzook Dec 14, 2008 12:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          YOUR LAST CHANCE TO VOTE! The poll closes this evening at 6 pm PST.

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. s
                                                                                                                                                                                            scoot Dec 14, 2008 12:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Over $25:

                                                                                                                                                                                            Sushi Sushi
                                                                                                                                                                                            Lawry's
                                                                                                                                                                                            Sushi Nozawa
                                                                                                                                                                                            Warszawa
                                                                                                                                                                                            Shaherzad

                                                                                                                                                                                            Under $25:

                                                                                                                                                                                            Brent's Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                            Julio's Bucket
                                                                                                                                                                                            Langer's Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                            Beechwood BBQ
                                                                                                                                                                                            Tomato Pie

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. s
                                                                                                                                                                                              sumo3175 Dec 14, 2008 02:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Over $25
                                                                                                                                                                                              AOC
                                                                                                                                                                                              Grace
                                                                                                                                                                                              Foundry
                                                                                                                                                                                              Jinpachi
                                                                                                                                                                                              Ortolon

                                                                                                                                                                                              Under $25
                                                                                                                                                                                              Nanbankan
                                                                                                                                                                                              M Cafe
                                                                                                                                                                                              Souplantation

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. maxzook Dec 14, 2008 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                The poll is officially closed, and no further votes will be tallied.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Look for the final results to be posted later this evening.

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. maxzook Dec 14, 2008 07:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  The results are here:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/580125

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: maxzook
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hapafish Dec 28, 2008 03:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    oh darn, shows me right for not scrolling to the bottom

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Hapafish
                                                                                                                                                                                                      maxzook Dec 28, 2008 04:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sorry!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/580125

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    sky21 Dec 15, 2008 03:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    sorry, too late

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hapafish Dec 28, 2008 03:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Over 25$
                                                                                                                                                                                                      1 . Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Craft
                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. Roy's
                                                                                                                                                                                                      4. Palate
                                                                                                                                                                                                      5. Nook Bistro ( i agree, Nosh)

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Under 25
                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Din Tai Fung
                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Gingergrass
                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. Miya Sushi (their chicken katsu lunch special cannot be beat)
                                                                                                                                                                                                      4. Casa Bianca
                                                                                                                                                                                                      5. Porto's

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