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PLEASE POST YOUR VOTES HERE: Ultimate Los Angeles Restaurants 2008

maxzook Nov 27, 2008 07:53 PM

Earlier this year, I resumed the tradition started by Mr. Grub in 2005 of running an annual poll of Chowhounders’ favorite Los Angeles Restaurants.

To quote Mr. Grub:

"The concept is simple: everyone is asked to list, in rank order, your top 5 restaurants in Los Angeles County that you would recommend to houndly out-of-town visitors or to chowfriends for a special occasion. Since we worship at the altar of deliciousness, your ranking should be based 75% on food and 25% on everything else."

The 2005 poll results can be found here:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/76226

The 2006 poll results can be found here:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/357211

The 2007 poll results can be found here:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/490712

After the last poll, several people complained that deciding between, say, Urasawa and The Oinkster was an impossible apples-and-oranges choice. So this year, I’m going to try a new twist: we’re going to vote for up to TEN restaurants – five restaurants in the category of over $25 per person for food, and five in the category of $25 or less for food.

For example, here are my choices:

OVER $25

Osteria Mozza
Comme Ça
Hungry Cat
Campanile
Musso and Frank

$25 OR LESS

Langer’s Deli
Caioti
The Oinkster
25 Degrees
Lawton’s Famous Frankfurters (RIP)

Your entries in each category will be weighted arithmetically: 5 points for your first choice; 4 points for your second, 3 for third, 2 for fourth and 1 for fifth.

You may choose to only cast votes in the over-$25 category, or in the $25-and-under, but please don’t vote for the same restaurant in both categories. If different voters cast votes for the same restaurant on both lists, the total points will be tabulated together and the restaurant will be ranked in the category for which it received the most points. (The $25 is meant to be inclusive of food only for an average dinner order per person.)

If you respond with more than 5 choices in either category, only your first 5 choices will be included. If you vote for fewer than five, your choice will be tabulated with as many points as the number you voted for (so if you vote for only three restaurants, your first choice will only carry three points, the second two points, etc.)

It’s okay to vote for a restaurant that closed within the last twelve months (I would appreciate if you flag defunct restos with an RIP tag, as I did for Lawton's). If two or more restaurants with the same name and basic menu get votes (e.g. Father’s Office on Montana or Helms), I will combine the results.

The more replies we receive, the more useful are the poll’s findings, so please do reply. I’ll keep the polls open until December 14 and post the results shortly thereafter.

Again, remember that first choice = 5 points, second choice = 4 points, etc. I will assume the first restaurant in your list will be the first choice and so on, so you don't have to number them.

Go for it!

  1. h
    Hapafish Dec 28, 2008 03:12 AM

    Over 25$
    1 . Pizzeria Mozza
    2. Craft
    3. Roy's
    4. Palate
    5. Nook Bistro ( i agree, Nosh)

    Under 25
    1. Din Tai Fung
    2. Gingergrass
    3. Miya Sushi (their chicken katsu lunch special cannot be beat)
    4. Casa Bianca
    5. Porto's

    1. s
      sky21 Dec 15, 2008 03:40 PM

      sorry, too late

      1. maxzook Dec 14, 2008 07:36 PM

        The results are here:

        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/580125

        2 Replies
        1. re: maxzook
          h
          Hapafish Dec 28, 2008 03:14 AM

          oh darn, shows me right for not scrolling to the bottom

          1. re: Hapafish
            maxzook Dec 28, 2008 04:29 AM

            Sorry!

            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/580125

        2. maxzook Dec 14, 2008 05:02 PM

          The poll is officially closed, and no further votes will be tallied.

          Look for the final results to be posted later this evening.

          1. s
            sumo3175 Dec 14, 2008 02:44 PM

            Over $25
            AOC
            Grace
            Foundry
            Jinpachi
            Ortolon

            Under $25
            Nanbankan
            M Cafe
            Souplantation

            1. s
              scoot Dec 14, 2008 12:50 PM

              Over $25:

              Sushi Sushi
              Lawry's
              Sushi Nozawa
              Warszawa
              Shaherzad

              Under $25:

              Brent's Deli
              Julio's Bucket
              Langer's Deli
              Beechwood BBQ
              Tomato Pie

              1. maxzook Dec 14, 2008 12:22 PM

                YOUR LAST CHANCE TO VOTE! The poll closes this evening at 6 pm PST.

                1. Clare K Dec 14, 2008 08:58 AM

                  Over $25:

                  Pizzeria Mozza
                  Bar Marmont
                  Melograno
                  Hatfield's
                  Mike & Anne's

                  Under $25
                  Europane
                  Casa Bianca
                  Langer's Deli
                  Yuca's
                  Coffee Table, Eagle Rock

                  1. honkman Dec 13, 2008 11:05 PM

                    >25:

                    Providence
                    Spago
                    Hatfields
                    Fraiche
                    Pizzaeria Mozza

                    1. p
                      PaliBruin Dec 13, 2008 05:15 PM

                      OVER
                      1. Angelini Osteria
                      2. Melisse
                      3. La Terza
                      4. A.O.C.
                      5. Osteria Mozza

                      UNDER
                      1. King Taco
                      2. Phillipes
                      3. Juniors
                      4.Casa Escobar (Santa Monica)
                      5. Carls Jr.

                      1. maxzook Dec 12, 2008 09:10 PM

                        Voting closes in about forty-eight-hours ... don't miss the deadline!

                        1. g
                          greengelato Dec 11, 2008 05:16 PM

                          over:
                          pizzeria mozza
                          fraiche
                          sushi zo

                          under:
                          tender greens!!
                          din tai fung
                          santouka ramen
                          father's office
                          al gelato

                          1. k
                            kjs Dec 11, 2008 05:06 PM

                            over $25 -
                            providence
                            melisse
                            mastro's
                            aoc
                            Anisette

                            under $25
                            banh mi che cali
                            golden deli
                            donut man
                            bollini's pizzeria
                            sea harbour

                            1. e
                              EricW Dec 11, 2008 04:48 PM

                              LA $25 and Under: Jitlada, Noodle House, My Taco, Pollos a la Brasa, Europane

                              But really, Elite, Oinkster, Langer's, 101 Noodle Express, Renu Nakorn, Huarache Azteca, Shamshiri Grill, Red Top Burgers, Father's Office, Casa Bianca, Din Tai Fung, Golden Deli, Banh Mi Che Cali, Barrio Fiesta/Fiesta sa Barrio, Skafs, Loteria, El Parian, Porto's, Zankou, Carnitas Michoacan, Pie 'n' Burger, Phillippe's, Mei Long Village, Tacos Baja Ensenada, Primo's Doughnuts, La Cabanita, Susina Bakery, Tender Greens, Puro Sabor, Tamales Liliana, and Krua Thai all have a case to make, and I still need to try Pann's, Bay Cities, Pho Minh, Izakaya Bincho, Spicy BBQ, Porky's, Santouka, Cassell's, Robata Yakitori, and Phillips BBQ!

                              What a city for eating reasonably.

                              1. s
                                slbear Dec 11, 2008 12:22 PM

                                OVER $25
                                Spago
                                Craft
                                Grace
                                Sushi Zo
                                Angelini Osteria

                                $25 OR LESS
                                Pizzeria Mozza
                                Father's Office
                                Langers
                                Sushi Gen
                                Santouka

                                1. l
                                  liltamby5 Dec 11, 2008 11:25 AM

                                  I really like Urth cafe. They have great salads and panini's here!

                                  1. swojahn Dec 11, 2008 09:31 AM

                                    under:
                                    Tacos Por Favor (SM)
                                    Clementine
                                    Father's office (Culver City)
                                    Le Petite Cafe (SM)
                                    Lula (SM)

                                    over:
                                    Capo
                                    Craft
                                    Hiko Sushi
                                    Patina
                                    Saddle Peak Lodge

                                    1. maxzook Dec 11, 2008 09:12 AM

                                      Voting closes this Sunday ... only four days to go!

                                      1. r
                                        ronsilverado Dec 10, 2008 07:46 PM

                                        over:
                                        hiko sushi
                                        fraiche
                                        craft
                                        hungry cat
                                        pizzeria mozza

                                        under:
                                        taco zone
                                        marouch
                                        square one dining
                                        daikokuya
                                        bay cities

                                        1. s
                                          scottyp34 Dec 10, 2008 05:39 PM

                                          Over $25

                                          Providence
                                          Craft
                                          Lucques
                                          Pizzeria Mozza
                                          Hungry Cat

                                          1. maxzook Dec 10, 2008 03:59 PM

                                            For those wanting to vote for Orange County restaurants, go to OCAnn's Ultimate OC Restaurant Poll:

                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/579058

                                            1. l
                                              ljeanne Dec 10, 2008 10:41 AM

                                              Over $25:
                                              Little Door
                                              AOC
                                              Joe's in Venice
                                              Chaya Venice

                                              Under $25:
                                              Bulan Thai
                                              Joe's Pizza in Santa Monica
                                              Bread & Porridge
                                              Hugo's
                                              Ruen Pair

                                              1. hyacinthgirl Dec 10, 2008 10:03 AM

                                                Thanks for doing this!

                                                Over
                                                1. Palate
                                                2. A.O.C
                                                3. Spago
                                                4. Katsuya (Brentwood locale)

                                                Under
                                                1. Amandine Patisserie
                                                2. Cayenne
                                                3. Aroma Bakery Cafe (on Sunset)
                                                4. Portos
                                                5. Antica Pizzeria

                                                1. t
                                                  theMeek Dec 10, 2008 08:36 AM

                                                  Over $25:
                                                  1. Osteria la Buca
                                                  2. Akbar
                                                  ... guess I don't eat at expensive places much. If I think of more in the next 4 days, I'll re-vote

                                                  Under $25:
                                                  1. Native Foods (I went to the one in Costa Mesa)
                                                  2. M Cafe de Chaya
                                                  3. The Griddle Cafe
                                                  4. Real Food Daily (I went to the one in Santa Monica)
                                                  5. Dino's (pizza place in Burbank)

                                                  1 Reply
                                                  1. re: theMeek
                                                    maxzook Dec 10, 2008 08:59 AM

                                                    If there's a Native Foods in L.A. County I can count it, but the OC doesn't count for this year's survey.

                                                    Go ahead and re-vote, I'll count your last entry.

                                                  2. avivale Dec 9, 2008 04:05 PM

                                                    My first year voting!! So many choices, I'm sure I'm forgetting something...

                                                    OVER $25

                                                    Saddle Peak Lodge
                                                    Comme Ca
                                                    Red White + Bluezz
                                                    The Foundry
                                                    Maison Akira

                                                    $25 OR LESS

                                                    La Cabanita
                                                    Spitz
                                                    Fish Grill
                                                    Surya
                                                    Dr. Hogly Wogly's

                                                    1. d
                                                      DeskPotato Dec 9, 2008 11:56 AM

                                                      < $25
                                                      1. Swan Thai Food
                                                      2. Bay Cities Deli
                                                      3. Barone's
                                                      4. Gorikee
                                                      5. Taqueria El Tapatio

                                                      > $25
                                                      1. Mastro's
                                                      2. Shik Do Rak
                                                      3. Orris

                                                      <Not a lot of 'fine-dining' for me this year :-( )>

                                                      1. RacerX Dec 9, 2008 10:19 AM

                                                        Thanks for taking the time to do this Max!

                                                        <25
                                                        1Langers
                                                        2 Din Tai Fung
                                                        3 Bay Cities Deli
                                                        4 Philippes
                                                        5 Barones' Pizza

                                                        >25
                                                        1 Lawry's
                                                        2 Mastros
                                                        3 Shibuya Sushi
                                                        4 Kings Fish House
                                                        5 Orris

                                                        RIP to Tama Sushi and Gorikee which would have made this list.

                                                        C'mon people, let's vote!!!

                                                        1. maxzook Dec 9, 2008 09:57 AM

                                                          The poll will close at about 6 pm or so on Sunday, December 14. Don't forget to vote!

                                                          2 Replies
                                                          1. re: maxzook
                                                            r
                                                            RicRios Dec 9, 2008 10:02 AM

                                                            Voting station used to stay open for a full month, results announced early Jan.
                                                            What's going on Max, not getting enough federal funds for the project?

                                                            1. re: RicRios
                                                              maxzook Dec 9, 2008 03:55 PM

                                                              I probably should've gotten the poll up a few days earlier this year. I'm leaving town next week till after New Year's and I won't have very good Internet access where I'm going so I wanted it up before I left.

                                                              We'll see if it affects the final turnout ... so far we're about on tract with last year.

                                                          2. m
                                                            mdpilam Dec 7, 2008 08:12 PM

                                                            <$25
                                                            1) Langers
                                                            2) El Chato (taco truck)
                                                            3) Father's Office
                                                            4) Jitlada
                                                            5) The India Restaurant

                                                            1. caveatempty Dec 7, 2008 06:42 PM

                                                              Thank you for continuing this tradition, Maxzook.

                                                              Over $25

                                                              1) Spago
                                                              2) Palate
                                                              3) Providence
                                                              4) Madeo
                                                              5) Osteria Mozza

                                                              Under $25
                                                              1) Park's BBQ
                                                              2) Polka
                                                              3) Carnitas Michaocan
                                                              4) Langers
                                                              5) Makkah Halah

                                                              1. d
                                                                dare2d4l Dec 7, 2008 02:54 PM

                                                                over $25:
                                                                hatfield
                                                                joe's in venice
                                                                urasawa
                                                                sushi zo
                                                                stonehill tavern (does it count since it's more down there? if not, then orris)

                                                                under $25 (all ethnic! :))
                                                                jitlada
                                                                bilal
                                                                indian restaurant (taiwanese place)
                                                                el super taco
                                                                simpang asia

                                                                2 Replies
                                                                1. re: dare2d4l
                                                                  d
                                                                  dare2d4l Dec 7, 2008 03:13 PM

                                                                  btw, i don't suppose we can have a seperate voting threads for the types of food? that way we can settle the best burger/sushi/tacos ....if only for a while.....

                                                                  1. re: dare2d4l
                                                                    maxzook Dec 7, 2008 03:22 PM

                                                                    Next year I think I'll allow restos from the whole Los Angeles Area as CH defines it, but this year it's still an LA-County-only poll ... so, Orris it is.

                                                                  2. b
                                                                    barbarena Dec 6, 2008 10:12 PM

                                                                    Over $25
                                                                    Sona
                                                                    Valentino
                                                                    A.O.C.
                                                                    Hungry Cat
                                                                    Drago

                                                                    Under $25
                                                                    Krua Thai
                                                                    Monte Alban
                                                                    La Playita
                                                                    M Cafe de Chaya
                                                                    Tamara's Tamales

                                                                    1. cheflaszlo Dec 5, 2008 10:56 PM

                                                                      Over $25: Mélisse
                                                                      Under $25 : Sushi Sho

                                                                      thanks

                                                                      1 Reply
                                                                      1. re: cheflaszlo
                                                                        maxzook Dec 6, 2008 03:41 PM

                                                                        Just a reminder, these will count for one point each unless you want to re-vote with a longer list (up to five in each poll).

                                                                      2. l
                                                                        LMelba Dec 5, 2008 08:23 PM

                                                                        Under $25
                                                                        Joseph's Deli, On Ventura in Woodland Hills, used to be a Label's Table
                                                                        Artisan Cheese Gallery (despite the awful service)
                                                                        Miya Sushi
                                                                        Caioti

                                                                        Over $25
                                                                        Mako
                                                                        Spago
                                                                        Seashell
                                                                        Chaya Venice
                                                                        Drago

                                                                        2 Replies
                                                                        1. re: LMelba
                                                                          l
                                                                          LMelba Dec 6, 2008 10:00 PM

                                                                          Adding one more for the Under $25, in the final spot I'm adding M Cafe de Chaya.
                                                                          And in the Over $25 I'm replacing Chaya Venice with Campanile.

                                                                          1. re: LMelba
                                                                            maxzook Dec 7, 2008 02:42 PM

                                                                            Noted.

                                                                        2. l
                                                                          lwinkelman Dec 5, 2008 06:01 PM

                                                                          Over $25:
                                                                          1) Providence
                                                                          2) Ortolan
                                                                          3) Palate
                                                                          4) Melisse
                                                                          5) The Foundry

                                                                          Under 25
                                                                          1) Guelaguetza
                                                                          2) 101 Noodle Express
                                                                          3) Baby Blues BBQ
                                                                          4) Jitlada
                                                                          5) Langers

                                                                          1. v
                                                                            vinosnob Dec 5, 2008 03:41 PM

                                                                            UNDER:

                                                                            Eduardo's Border Grill
                                                                            CA Chicken Cafe
                                                                            Clementine
                                                                            Bay Cities
                                                                            Sunin
                                                                            El Super Taco
                                                                            Tlapazola Grill

                                                                            OVER:

                                                                            Providence
                                                                            Ortolan
                                                                            Fraiche
                                                                            Josie
                                                                            Angelini Osteria
                                                                            A.O.C.

                                                                            5 Replies
                                                                            1. re: vinosnob
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                                                                              Adsvino Dec 6, 2008 06:31 AM

                                                                              I don't think they will be counting all of those....

                                                                              1. re: Adsvino
                                                                                maxzook Dec 6, 2008 03:41 PM

                                                                                Just the first five in each list. Re-vote if you narrow the list down.

                                                                                1. re: maxzook
                                                                                  v
                                                                                  vinosnob Dec 7, 2008 03:27 PM

                                                                                  Gotcha, REVISED list below:

                                                                                  UNDER:

                                                                                  Eduardo's Border Grill
                                                                                  Clementine
                                                                                  Bay Cities
                                                                                  Sunin
                                                                                  Tlapazola Grill

                                                                                  OVER:

                                                                                  Providence
                                                                                  Ortolan
                                                                                  Josie
                                                                                  Angelini Osteria
                                                                                  A.O.C.

                                                                                  1. re: vinosnob
                                                                                    maxzook Dec 8, 2008 08:17 AM

                                                                                    Got it ...

                                                                                    1. re: maxzook
                                                                                      v
                                                                                      vinosnob Dec 8, 2008 03:23 PM

                                                                                      Thanks!

                                                                            2. a
                                                                              a213b Dec 5, 2008 11:31 AM

                                                                              >$25
                                                                              Osteria Mozza
                                                                              Craft
                                                                              Sona
                                                                              Jar
                                                                              Bazaar

                                                                              <$25
                                                                              Boneyard Bistro
                                                                              Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                              Father's Office (Culver City)
                                                                              KC BBQ
                                                                              Pita Kitchen (Sherman Oaks, in case there are others)

                                                                              1. t
                                                                                tykapfh Dec 5, 2008 10:48 AM

                                                                                Under $25
                                                                                Beverly Soon Tofu
                                                                                Simpang
                                                                                Terried Sake House
                                                                                Taco Zone (Truck)
                                                                                Joan's

                                                                                Over $25
                                                                                Hatfield's
                                                                                Jiraffe

                                                                                ...a short list indeed.

                                                                                1. h
                                                                                  houseberg Dec 5, 2008 10:31 AM

                                                                                  Osteria La Buca (Downtown)
                                                                                  KoKeKoKo Yakitori (Little Tokyo)
                                                                                  Melisse (Westside)
                                                                                  BiMi Sushi (Westside)
                                                                                  Mastros Steak House (Beverly Hills)

                                                                                  Under 25

                                                                                  ZenKou
                                                                                  Din Tai Fung

                                                                                  1. maxzook Dec 5, 2008 08:37 AM

                                                                                    Don't forget to vote!

                                                                                    1. o
                                                                                      Obessed Dec 4, 2008 04:57 PM

                                                                                      Over $25

                                                                                      Cut
                                                                                      Hungry Cat
                                                                                      Animal
                                                                                      Ortolon
                                                                                      Jar

                                                                                      Under $25
                                                                                      Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                      Vito's
                                                                                      Vivoli
                                                                                      Jitlada
                                                                                      Father's Office - Culver City

                                                                                      1. v
                                                                                        victoriashe Dec 4, 2008 04:42 PM

                                                                                        More than $25:

                                                                                        Citrus at Social
                                                                                        Madeo
                                                                                        Lucques
                                                                                        Musso & Frank
                                                                                        Hungry Cat

                                                                                        Less than $25:

                                                                                        Casa Bianca
                                                                                        Tito's Tacos
                                                                                        Langer's
                                                                                        Urth Caffe
                                                                                        Mulberry Street

                                                                                        1. i
                                                                                          issey Dec 4, 2008 12:44 AM

                                                                                          Over
                                                                                          Urasawa
                                                                                          Melisse
                                                                                          Providence
                                                                                          Mortons
                                                                                          Spago

                                                                                          Under
                                                                                          Mario's
                                                                                          Sushi Gen (lunch)
                                                                                          Bossa Nova

                                                                                          1. h
                                                                                            hambriento Dec 3, 2008 10:51 PM

                                                                                            Over:
                                                                                            Urasawa
                                                                                            Sona
                                                                                            Providence
                                                                                            Spago
                                                                                            Palate

                                                                                            Under:
                                                                                            Monte Alban
                                                                                            Oinkster
                                                                                            Father's Office
                                                                                            La Cabanita
                                                                                            Yucas

                                                                                            1. trishyb Dec 3, 2008 02:05 PM

                                                                                              <$25
                                                                                              m cafe de chaya
                                                                                              the griddle cafe
                                                                                              joan's on third
                                                                                              clementine
                                                                                              bossa nova

                                                                                              >$25
                                                                                              angelini osteria
                                                                                              jar
                                                                                              animal
                                                                                              drago
                                                                                              mastro's

                                                                                              1. n
                                                                                                nick_r Dec 3, 2008 10:58 AM

                                                                                                Over $25:
                                                                                                Ortolan
                                                                                                Melisse
                                                                                                Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                Lou
                                                                                                Gjelina

                                                                                                Under $25:
                                                                                                Father's Office
                                                                                                M Cafe de Chaya
                                                                                                Canele
                                                                                                Tender Greens
                                                                                                Lula

                                                                                                1. maxzook Dec 3, 2008 09:43 AM

                                                                                                  push

                                                                                                  1 Reply
                                                                                                  1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                    maxzook Dec 4, 2008 03:54 PM

                                                                                                    push push

                                                                                                  2. z
                                                                                                    zam Dec 2, 2008 01:47 PM

                                                                                                    25+
                                                                                                    Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                    Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                    Fraiche
                                                                                                    Amarone
                                                                                                    Akasha

                                                                                                    25-
                                                                                                    Fabrocini's
                                                                                                    The Hummus Bar
                                                                                                    La Paz
                                                                                                    Bamboo
                                                                                                    Copper Chimney

                                                                                                    1. acidspit Dec 2, 2008 11:36 AM

                                                                                                      Providence
                                                                                                      Grace
                                                                                                      Sona
                                                                                                      Comme Ca
                                                                                                      Hungry Cat

                                                                                                      1. russkar Dec 2, 2008 11:27 AM

                                                                                                        Urasawa
                                                                                                        Melisse
                                                                                                        Providence
                                                                                                        Spago
                                                                                                        Ortolan

                                                                                                        Angelini Osteria (light Lunch)
                                                                                                        Langer's (#19)
                                                                                                        Sushi Gen (Lunch Special)
                                                                                                        Morton's Lunch Burger (15-)
                                                                                                        Mi India Bonita (still the best Albondigas)

                                                                                                        1. maxzook Dec 2, 2008 08:30 AM

                                                                                                          Someone asked me to clarify the five-restaurant rule.

                                                                                                          If you vote for more than five restaurants, only the first five that you list will be counted (no "ties").

                                                                                                          If you vote for less than five restaurants, the points will be apportioned as follows:

                                                                                                          Four restaurants

                                                                                                          1st choice: 4 points
                                                                                                          2nd choice: 3 points
                                                                                                          3rd choice: 2 points
                                                                                                          4th choice: 1 point

                                                                                                          ---

                                                                                                          Three restaurants

                                                                                                          1st choice: 3 points
                                                                                                          2nd choice: 2 points
                                                                                                          3rd choice: 1 point

                                                                                                          ---

                                                                                                          Two restaurants

                                                                                                          1st choice: 2 points
                                                                                                          2nd choice: 1 point

                                                                                                          ---

                                                                                                          One restaurant: 1 point

                                                                                                          (This rule is so that people who vote for less than five restaurants don't skew the points.)

                                                                                                          3 Replies
                                                                                                          1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                            Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 05:00 PM

                                                                                                            Not to be too much of a geek, but most voting systems I'm aware of work in the opposite way:

                                                                                                            Five selected:

                                                                                                            1st choice: 5 points
                                                                                                            2nd choice: 4 points
                                                                                                            3rd choice: 3 points
                                                                                                            4th choice: 2 points
                                                                                                            5th choice: 1 point

                                                                                                            Three selected:

                                                                                                            1st choice: 5 points
                                                                                                            2nd choice: 4 points
                                                                                                            3rd choice: 3 points

                                                                                                            One selected:

                                                                                                            1st (and only) choice: 5 points

                                                                                                            Anyway, it's easy to intentionally skew points for a single favorite if someone really wants to. Here's an (extreme) example:

                                                                                                            1st choice: Langer's
                                                                                                            2nd choice: Denny's
                                                                                                            3rd choice: IHOP
                                                                                                            4th choice: Tony Roma's
                                                                                                            5th choice: Tom's Burgers

                                                                                                            1. re: Peripatetic
                                                                                                              maxzook Dec 3, 2008 06:34 PM

                                                                                                              You left off Shakey's ;P

                                                                                                              Anyway, the number of voters has declined in each of the Ultimate Restaurant polls since Mr. Grub started this four years ago, and as the sampling declines, the power of a single voter to affect the ranking increases. I'm trying to convince voters to put in enough thought to come up with the full five choices, and to think beyond their short lists. That's one reason I broke out the over-25-vs-under this year.

                                                                                                              And you're right that a voter could skew his points the way you indicated, but I haven't seen any votes to date that would seem to reflect any such trend. Speaking for myself as a Langer's fan, if you DID intend that to be your vote I wouldn't object, seeing as how Langer's was in eleventh place two years ago but received NO VOTES last year.

                                                                                                              1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                                Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 10:37 PM

                                                                                                                I see your point, and in any case, there's probably little incentive for anyone to attempt to game the vote. It's not like turn-of-the-century Florida. :)

                                                                                                                Also, yes, Langer's was my first choice for <$25 on my "ballot" (above). It wasn't a difficult decision.

                                                                                                          2. soniabegonia Dec 1, 2008 02:32 PM

                                                                                                            Over $25
                                                                                                            Providence
                                                                                                            Urasawa
                                                                                                            Kagaya
                                                                                                            Hatfield's
                                                                                                            Grace

                                                                                                            Under $25
                                                                                                            Nanbankan
                                                                                                            Square One
                                                                                                            Clementine
                                                                                                            Daikokuya
                                                                                                            Ruen Pair

                                                                                                            1. c
                                                                                                              CaringBear Dec 1, 2008 01:08 PM

                                                                                                              >25
                                                                                                              Urasawa
                                                                                                              Craft
                                                                                                              Providence
                                                                                                              Sona
                                                                                                              Bazar

                                                                                                              <25
                                                                                                              Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                              Loteria
                                                                                                              Boneyard Bistro
                                                                                                              Oinkster
                                                                                                              Bay Cities

                                                                                                              Bazar is very new, but I was quite impressed. And 1 year ago it would have been Bastide, but not with the new chef...

                                                                                                              1. Grog Dec 1, 2008 10:33 AM

                                                                                                                + $25.00

                                                                                                                1. The Dinning Room at the Langham - Pasadena
                                                                                                                2. Providence
                                                                                                                3. Z Sushi
                                                                                                                4. Angelini Osteria
                                                                                                                5. Fraiche

                                                                                                                - $25.00

                                                                                                                1. Viet Noodle Bar
                                                                                                                2. Ruen Pair
                                                                                                                3. Local
                                                                                                                4. Polla a la Brasa
                                                                                                                5. La Estrella

                                                                                                                This is tough because I'd also like to vote for the Pupusa vendor at the Hollywood Farmer's market (also at Atwater) on Sundays. Not only do I not know the business name (and there is one), I can't figure out which one they would replace...damn!

                                                                                                                1 Reply
                                                                                                                1. re: Grog
                                                                                                                  maxzook Dec 1, 2008 11:32 AM

                                                                                                                  Both markets have pages here with e-mail contacts:

                                                                                                                  http://www.farmernet.com

                                                                                                                2. Hershey Bomar Dec 1, 2008 10:14 AM

                                                                                                                  Less than $25
                                                                                                                  Langers
                                                                                                                  KyoChon
                                                                                                                  Best Fish Tacos in Ensenada
                                                                                                                  Jitlada
                                                                                                                  Phillips Q
                                                                                                                  Daisy Mint
                                                                                                                  Marouch

                                                                                                                  1. a
                                                                                                                    altstarr Dec 1, 2008 09:27 AM

                                                                                                                    Over $25
                                                                                                                    1. Sea Harbour
                                                                                                                    2. Valentino's
                                                                                                                    3. Spago's
                                                                                                                    4. Chosun Galbi
                                                                                                                    5. Lawry's

                                                                                                                    Under $25
                                                                                                                    1. Elite Restaurant
                                                                                                                    2. Javan
                                                                                                                    3. Father's Office
                                                                                                                    4. Pho 79
                                                                                                                    5. Daikokuya

                                                                                                                    1. Schweinhaxen Dec 1, 2008 07:19 AM

                                                                                                                      OVER $25

                                                                                                                      Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                                      Sushi Zo
                                                                                                                      Providence
                                                                                                                      Wolfgang's
                                                                                                                      Newport Seafood

                                                                                                                      $25 OR LESS

                                                                                                                      Langer’s Deli
                                                                                                                      Din Tai Fung
                                                                                                                      Pann's
                                                                                                                      Vito's
                                                                                                                      Yuca's

                                                                                                                      1. d
                                                                                                                        dkawai Dec 1, 2008 06:02 AM

                                                                                                                        >$25
                                                                                                                        Nishimura
                                                                                                                        Sona
                                                                                                                        Maestros
                                                                                                                        Melisse
                                                                                                                        Mei Long Village

                                                                                                                        <$25
                                                                                                                        Eight Cafe
                                                                                                                        Saigon Deli (Monterey Park)
                                                                                                                        Bollini's Pizzeria
                                                                                                                        Langers
                                                                                                                        Lilliana's (tamales)

                                                                                                                        1. a
                                                                                                                          Adsvino Dec 1, 2008 04:54 AM

                                                                                                                          >25
                                                                                                                          Urasawa
                                                                                                                          Providence
                                                                                                                          Il Grano
                                                                                                                          Gordon Ramsay
                                                                                                                          Lucques

                                                                                                                          <25
                                                                                                                          Santouka Ramen
                                                                                                                          Loteria Hollywood
                                                                                                                          Bella Roma SPQR
                                                                                                                          Nakkara Thai
                                                                                                                          Antica Pizza

                                                                                                                          1. h
                                                                                                                            HollywoodLocal Dec 1, 2008 02:28 AM

                                                                                                                            >25
                                                                                                                            Asanebo
                                                                                                                            Sushi Sushi
                                                                                                                            Jinpachi
                                                                                                                            Cafe Des Artises
                                                                                                                            Beso

                                                                                                                            <25
                                                                                                                            Pink Pepper
                                                                                                                            Vivoli Cafe
                                                                                                                            Urth Caffe
                                                                                                                            JR's BBQ
                                                                                                                            Loteria

                                                                                                                            1. mylastbite Nov 30, 2008 08:23 PM

                                                                                                                              OVER $25 ANIMAL

                                                                                                                              1 Reply
                                                                                                                              1. re: mylastbite
                                                                                                                                maxzook Dec 1, 2008 08:30 AM

                                                                                                                                Remember that if you only vote for one restaurant, that restaurant gets 1 point. If you vote for two, your first choice gets 2 votes and your second choice gets 1, and so on.

                                                                                                                              2. katydid13 Nov 30, 2008 09:33 AM

                                                                                                                                1. Cafe Verona
                                                                                                                                2. Marouch
                                                                                                                                3. Lou on Vine
                                                                                                                                4. Lucques
                                                                                                                                5. Tama Sushi (I think this is an RIP)

                                                                                                                                1 Reply
                                                                                                                                1. re: katydid13
                                                                                                                                  maxzook Nov 30, 2008 02:48 PM

                                                                                                                                  Yes, Tama is an RIP:

                                                                                                                                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/568774

                                                                                                                                2. f
                                                                                                                                  fooddude37 Nov 30, 2008 08:10 AM

                                                                                                                                  Over 25
                                                                                                                                  Urasawa
                                                                                                                                  Mori Sushi
                                                                                                                                  Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                  Providence
                                                                                                                                  Lou on Vine

                                                                                                                                  Under 25
                                                                                                                                  Langers
                                                                                                                                  Las 7 Regiones de Oaxaca
                                                                                                                                  Ruen Pair
                                                                                                                                  Jaragua Restaurant
                                                                                                                                  Clementine's

                                                                                                                                  1. c
                                                                                                                                    Cinemaverite1 Nov 30, 2008 12:26 AM

                                                                                                                                    Under $25

                                                                                                                                    Amandine
                                                                                                                                    Square One Dining
                                                                                                                                    Bay Cities
                                                                                                                                    Ham Hung Naeng Myun (on 8th and Ardmore)
                                                                                                                                    Pizzeria Mozza

                                                                                                                                    1. sku Nov 29, 2008 08:36 PM

                                                                                                                                      Over $25:
                                                                                                                                      Melisse
                                                                                                                                      Craft
                                                                                                                                      Mastro's
                                                                                                                                      Grace
                                                                                                                                      Babita

                                                                                                                                      Under $25
                                                                                                                                      La Morenita de Oaxaca
                                                                                                                                      La Fonda Anteoqueno
                                                                                                                                      Sea Harbor
                                                                                                                                      Langer's
                                                                                                                                      Fassica

                                                                                                                                      1. Tom P Nov 29, 2008 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                        Over 25:

                                                                                                                                        Jar
                                                                                                                                        Lucques
                                                                                                                                        Madeo
                                                                                                                                        Musso's
                                                                                                                                        Taylor's

                                                                                                                                        Under $ 25:

                                                                                                                                        Philippe's
                                                                                                                                        Canele
                                                                                                                                        Pizzaria Mozza
                                                                                                                                        The Park
                                                                                                                                        Langers

                                                                                                                                        1. c
                                                                                                                                          CoffeeMonkee Nov 29, 2008 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                          Over $25
                                                                                                                                          Animal
                                                                                                                                          Sona
                                                                                                                                          Hungry Cat
                                                                                                                                          Pizzaria Mozza
                                                                                                                                          Comme Ca

                                                                                                                                          Under $25
                                                                                                                                          Square One
                                                                                                                                          Caioti Pizza Cafe
                                                                                                                                          Father's Office
                                                                                                                                          Santouka Ramen
                                                                                                                                          Pita Kitchen

                                                                                                                                          1. n
                                                                                                                                            NAspy Nov 29, 2008 01:05 PM

                                                                                                                                            under $25

                                                                                                                                            1. Ciro's
                                                                                                                                            2. Mandarin Noodle House
                                                                                                                                            3. India Sweets n Spices (on Venice in Culver City)
                                                                                                                                            4. Messob
                                                                                                                                            5. In and Out

                                                                                                                                            Over $25

                                                                                                                                            1. Sushi Zo
                                                                                                                                            2. JiRaffe
                                                                                                                                            3. Hatfields
                                                                                                                                            4. Fraiche
                                                                                                                                            5 Wilshire

                                                                                                                                            1. d
                                                                                                                                              donnival Nov 29, 2008 10:57 AM

                                                                                                                                              Over $25:
                                                                                                                                              Hatfield's
                                                                                                                                              Providence
                                                                                                                                              Lucques
                                                                                                                                              Chosun Galbee
                                                                                                                                              Comme Ça

                                                                                                                                              Under $25:
                                                                                                                                              Nook Bistro
                                                                                                                                              Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                              Sokongdong Soontofu
                                                                                                                                              Asa Ramen
                                                                                                                                              Gina Lee's Bistro

                                                                                                                                              1. scurvy Nov 29, 2008 10:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                <$25
                                                                                                                                                Pollo a la Brasa
                                                                                                                                                Tacos Baja Ensenada
                                                                                                                                                Langer's
                                                                                                                                                The Park
                                                                                                                                                Mendocino Farms

                                                                                                                                                >$25
                                                                                                                                                Hatfield's
                                                                                                                                                Palate
                                                                                                                                                Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                Canele
                                                                                                                                                Sushi Zo

                                                                                                                                                1. SauceSupreme Nov 29, 2008 10:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Over $25
                                                                                                                                                  Urasawa
                                                                                                                                                  Hungry Cat
                                                                                                                                                  Comme Ca
                                                                                                                                                  Park BBQ
                                                                                                                                                  Sushi Ike

                                                                                                                                                  Under $25
                                                                                                                                                  Jitlada
                                                                                                                                                  Izakaya Bincho
                                                                                                                                                  Oinkster
                                                                                                                                                  Asa Ramen
                                                                                                                                                  Sokongdong

                                                                                                                                                  1. e
                                                                                                                                                    exilekiss Nov 29, 2008 10:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Hi maxzook,

                                                                                                                                                    I wanted to thank you for organizing this (and the effort to tabulate, organize it all, etc.). :) This should be fun and helpful.

                                                                                                                                                    (per maxzook, top-most entry is my #1, bottom-most is #5)

                                                                                                                                                    OVER $25

                                                                                                                                                    Urasawa
                                                                                                                                                    Providence
                                                                                                                                                    Craft
                                                                                                                                                    Valentino
                                                                                                                                                    Spago

                                                                                                                                                    $25 OR LESS

                                                                                                                                                    Izakaya Bincho
                                                                                                                                                    Noodle House (Mian Hsiang Yuan)
                                                                                                                                                    Ichimian (also known as "Bamboo Garden" or "Ichimiann")
                                                                                                                                                    Shin Sen Gumi Yakitori (or "Robata-Yakitori" - not the Ramen side)
                                                                                                                                                    Sea Harbour

                                                                                                                                                    4 Replies
                                                                                                                                                    1. re: exilekiss
                                                                                                                                                      ipsedixit Nov 29, 2008 08:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Sea Harbour ... 25 or less? How do you figure?

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                                                                                        sku Nov 30, 2008 05:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                        I suppose it depends how much you order. I've definitely done Sea Harbor with a big group for less than $25 per person, though with a small group, we tend to be over $25 per person. Economies of scale and all...

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: sku
                                                                                                                                                          ipsedixit Nov 30, 2008 08:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Wait, are you talking dim sum or dinner?

                                                                                                                                                          Most dinner entrees are in the 15-20 dollar range, with vegetables being in the low end (10-14) and seafood ranging as high as 100+.

                                                                                                                                                          I don't see how you can dine at Sea Harbour for 25/person.

                                                                                                                                                        2. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                                                                                          e
                                                                                                                                                          exilekiss Nov 30, 2008 09:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Hi ipsedixit,

                                                                                                                                                          LOL. :) I wanted to add "Extra Notes" for each of my votes but I didn't want to slow down maxzook's tallying.

                                                                                                                                                          "Yes," I was talking about Dim Sum, not Dinner (which would be in the Above $25 category, but I'm not voting for Dinner at Sea Harbour). Thanks. :)

                                                                                                                                                      2. lotta_cox Nov 29, 2008 08:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                        over $25
                                                                                                                                                        Saddle Peak Lodge
                                                                                                                                                        The Bazaar
                                                                                                                                                        BLT Steak
                                                                                                                                                        Mozza
                                                                                                                                                        Lucques

                                                                                                                                                        under $25
                                                                                                                                                        The Park
                                                                                                                                                        Urth Cafe
                                                                                                                                                        Say Cheese!
                                                                                                                                                        Daphne's Greek
                                                                                                                                                        Ford's Filling Station

                                                                                                                                                        8 Replies
                                                                                                                                                        1. re: lotta_cox
                                                                                                                                                          maxzook Nov 29, 2008 02:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                          I'm going to assume that anyone who votes for "Mozza" is voting for the Pizzeria, which was known by that name before the Osteria opened.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                                                                            lotta_cox Nov 30, 2008 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                            I was voting for the Osteria. If I had been voting for the pIzzeria, it probably would have been in the $25 and under category. Not a huge fan of pizza.

                                                                                                                                                          2. re: lotta_cox
                                                                                                                                                            lotta_cox Nov 30, 2008 09:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                            I wanted to add Izayoi, but unsure which category. You could easily go under $25 without alcohol, or easily well over.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: lotta_cox
                                                                                                                                                              b
                                                                                                                                                              bulavinaka Nov 30, 2008 04:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                              I think your concern/conundrum applies to a lot of places that do small plates. I'm thinking the same for Izakaya Bincho. I just went last night and the bill came to $105 before tip. We were a party of four, but two of them were our kids which nixes drinks x 2. The flipside of this is that we ordered two to three dishes too many. The weekend before, it was just my wife and me and the bill came to $80 before tip, but again - we ordered too much by about three dishes. If you include drinks into any restaurant's equation, then even some of the most modest places will break the $25 mark.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: bulavinaka
                                                                                                                                                                maxzook Dec 1, 2008 08:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                It doesn't really matter which category you put it under ... it will end up counted in the category where it nets the most points.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                                                                                  Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 03:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  So votes for Izakaya Bincho in the <25 category will be added to votes for Izakaya Bincho in >25 category and vice versa?

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Peripatetic
                                                                                                                                                                    maxzook Dec 3, 2008 06:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    If Izakaya Bincho received a total of, let's say, 12 points an an under-$25 restaurant and 17 points as a $25-and-over, it would be tallied in the $25-and-over column with 29 points. No restaurant will appear in both lists.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: maxzook
                                                                                                                                                                      Peripatetic Dec 3, 2008 10:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Got it. That seems very reasonable.

                                                                                                                                                          3. p
                                                                                                                                                            Pineapple099 Nov 29, 2008 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Over $25.00

                                                                                                                                                            1. Lawry's Prime Rib
                                                                                                                                                            2. Ruth Chris
                                                                                                                                                            3. Houstons
                                                                                                                                                            4. Spago
                                                                                                                                                            5. Arnie Morton's

                                                                                                                                                            Under $25.00

                                                                                                                                                            1. Bay Cities
                                                                                                                                                            2. Fat Burgers
                                                                                                                                                            3. Baja Fresh
                                                                                                                                                            4. Cheesecake Factory
                                                                                                                                                            5. In-N-Out Burger
                                                                                                                                                            6. Panda Express

                                                                                                                                                            1. o
                                                                                                                                                              oldiebutfoodie Nov 29, 2008 07:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                              under $25
                                                                                                                                                              Jitlada
                                                                                                                                                              Portos
                                                                                                                                                              Oinkster
                                                                                                                                                              El Huarache Azteca
                                                                                                                                                              La Cabanita

                                                                                                                                                              1. n
                                                                                                                                                                New Trial Nov 28, 2008 08:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                UNDER:

                                                                                                                                                                Langer's
                                                                                                                                                                Elite
                                                                                                                                                                Clementine
                                                                                                                                                                Bay Cities
                                                                                                                                                                Guelaguetza (WLA)

                                                                                                                                                                OVER:

                                                                                                                                                                Osteria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                                Ortolan
                                                                                                                                                                Sushi Zo
                                                                                                                                                                Jar
                                                                                                                                                                Fraiche

                                                                                                                                                                1. e
                                                                                                                                                                  emosbaugh Nov 28, 2008 04:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  <25
                                                                                                                                                                  clementine
                                                                                                                                                                  jitlada
                                                                                                                                                                  bay cities
                                                                                                                                                                  din tai fung
                                                                                                                                                                  ye rustic inn

                                                                                                                                                                  >25
                                                                                                                                                                  the hungry cat
                                                                                                                                                                  palate
                                                                                                                                                                  sushi zo
                                                                                                                                                                  comme ca
                                                                                                                                                                  the park

                                                                                                                                                                  1. m
                                                                                                                                                                    mrhooks Nov 28, 2008 04:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    OVER $25

                                                                                                                                                                    Urasawa
                                                                                                                                                                    Totoraku
                                                                                                                                                                    Providence
                                                                                                                                                                    AOC
                                                                                                                                                                    Saddle Peak Lodge

                                                                                                                                                                    UNDER $25

                                                                                                                                                                    Asa Ramen
                                                                                                                                                                    Santouka
                                                                                                                                                                    Lucky Devils
                                                                                                                                                                    Philippe's
                                                                                                                                                                    Pie 'n' Burger

                                                                                                                                                                    I was going to put down NBC as my #5 under $25, but I don't know what it's like since new ownership took over. If old ownership still counts, knock off Pie 'n' Burger.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. j
                                                                                                                                                                      jumpingblackdog Nov 28, 2008 04:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Over $25
                                                                                                                                                                      Grace
                                                                                                                                                                      Asenabo
                                                                                                                                                                      The Foundry
                                                                                                                                                                      Fleming's Prime Steakhouse & Winebar
                                                                                                                                                                      Il Grano
                                                                                                                                                                      Bastide (except that was a couple of chefs ago!)

                                                                                                                                                                      Under $25
                                                                                                                                                                      Dominck's
                                                                                                                                                                      Hot Wings (we're addicted)
                                                                                                                                                                      M Cafe de Chaya
                                                                                                                                                                      Aroma
                                                                                                                                                                      Sushi Gen

                                                                                                                                                                      1. ElsieDee Nov 28, 2008 04:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Under $25
                                                                                                                                                                        - Daisy Mint
                                                                                                                                                                        - Oinkster
                                                                                                                                                                        - Merengue (new Cuban bakery in Monrovia)
                                                                                                                                                                        - Tops (The Original)
                                                                                                                                                                        - Europane

                                                                                                                                                                        Honorable Mention: Milano's Deli, RIP - Oh how I miss the falaffel and humus and everything else!

                                                                                                                                                                        Over $25
                                                                                                                                                                        - Fatty's in Eagle Rock

                                                                                                                                                                        (Will amend if more "over 25" occur to me - we really tend to eat at the less-expensive places.)

                                                                                                                                                                        1. t
                                                                                                                                                                          TailbackU Nov 28, 2008 03:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Over $25

                                                                                                                                                                          Providence
                                                                                                                                                                          Mastros
                                                                                                                                                                          Hatfields
                                                                                                                                                                          Sushi Nozawa
                                                                                                                                                                          Lucques

                                                                                                                                                                          Under $25
                                                                                                                                                                          Mariela's Tacos
                                                                                                                                                                          il capriccio
                                                                                                                                                                          Wahoo's Fish Tacos
                                                                                                                                                                          Mozza Pizzeria
                                                                                                                                                                          Marios Peruvian

                                                                                                                                                                          1. n
                                                                                                                                                                            nosh Nov 28, 2008 11:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Under $25 -- no particular order:

                                                                                                                                                                            Porky's
                                                                                                                                                                            Carnitas Michaocan (No. Broadway at 19th)
                                                                                                                                                                            Bay Cities
                                                                                                                                                                            Amandine -- croissant, best snack
                                                                                                                                                                            Tacos Por Favor (westside)
                                                                                                                                                                            Philly West -- burger or cheesesteak (honorable mention)

                                                                                                                                                                            Over $25 (barely):

                                                                                                                                                                            Nook Bistro -- dollar per dollar, best value in fine SoCal dining by far (please, bring back the shortribs)

                                                                                                                                                                            1. b
                                                                                                                                                                              banquisha Nov 28, 2008 11:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              under 25
                                                                                                                                                                              izakaya bincho
                                                                                                                                                                              nanbankan
                                                                                                                                                                              pho minh
                                                                                                                                                                              banh mi che cali
                                                                                                                                                                              sakura house

                                                                                                                                                                              1. b
                                                                                                                                                                                banquisha Nov 28, 2008 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                over 25:
                                                                                                                                                                                Jiraffe
                                                                                                                                                                                La Cachette
                                                                                                                                                                                Josie
                                                                                                                                                                                Angelini Osteria
                                                                                                                                                                                Wilshire

                                                                                                                                                                                1. martyR Nov 28, 2008 09:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  < $25
                                                                                                                                                                                  Langers
                                                                                                                                                                                  Casa Bianca
                                                                                                                                                                                  Noodle House
                                                                                                                                                                                  The Nickel
                                                                                                                                                                                  Yum Cha Cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                  > $25
                                                                                                                                                                                  Sea Harbor
                                                                                                                                                                                  Babita
                                                                                                                                                                                  Elite
                                                                                                                                                                                  Nick & Stef's
                                                                                                                                                                                  Napa Rose

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. y
                                                                                                                                                                                    yogachik Nov 28, 2008 07:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Over $25
                                                                                                                                                                                    Anisette
                                                                                                                                                                                    Via Venetto
                                                                                                                                                                                    Spago
                                                                                                                                                                                    Nobu
                                                                                                                                                                                    Craft

                                                                                                                                                                                    Under $25
                                                                                                                                                                                    Tacos Por Favor
                                                                                                                                                                                    Bay Cities
                                                                                                                                                                                    Bar Pinxto
                                                                                                                                                                                    Father's Office
                                                                                                                                                                                    Chaya Venice at Happy Hour

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. SmokeyDoke Nov 28, 2008 06:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      OVER $25

                                                                                                                                                                                      Newport Seafood
                                                                                                                                                                                      Josies
                                                                                                                                                                                      Providence
                                                                                                                                                                                      Craft
                                                                                                                                                                                      Spago

                                                                                                                                                                                      $25 OR LESS
                                                                                                                                                                                      Porto's Bakery
                                                                                                                                                                                      Jitlada
                                                                                                                                                                                      Big Wangs
                                                                                                                                                                                      Alondra Wings
                                                                                                                                                                                      Zankou Chicken

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Peripatetic Nov 27, 2008 10:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        OVER $25

                                                                                                                                                                                        Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                                                        Otafuku Noodle House
                                                                                                                                                                                        Lou on Vine
                                                                                                                                                                                        AOC
                                                                                                                                                                                        Sanuki No Sato

                                                                                                                                                                                        $25 OR LESS

                                                                                                                                                                                        Langer's Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                        Pann's
                                                                                                                                                                                        Elite Restaurant (Monterey Park)
                                                                                                                                                                                        Oinkster
                                                                                                                                                                                        Jeon Ju

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. j
                                                                                                                                                                                          jb1979 Nov 27, 2008 10:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Under $25:

                                                                                                                                                                                          Jitlada
                                                                                                                                                                                          Santouka (in Mitsuwa Market)
                                                                                                                                                                                          Taqueria Sanchez
                                                                                                                                                                                          Pizzeria Mozza
                                                                                                                                                                                          Sapp Coffee Shop

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                                                                                                                                                                                            RicRios Nov 27, 2008 09:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            <25
                                                                                                                                                                                            Bella Roma SPQR
                                                                                                                                                                                            El Parian
                                                                                                                                                                                            The happy hour at Napa Valley Grill
                                                                                                                                                                                            The hole in the wall Downtown LA at 719 S Los Angeles Street, at the back of the hallway, lunch only; ask for Doña Paty).
                                                                                                                                                                                            Dino's chicken ( do they serve anything else? )

                                                                                                                                                                                            >25
                                                                                                                                                                                            Craft
                                                                                                                                                                                            Spago
                                                                                                                                                                                            Chinois
                                                                                                                                                                                            Fraiche
                                                                                                                                                                                            Bistro de l'Hermitage

                                                                                                                                                                                            ( and no, I'm not voting for any place with "zz" in the name; or for any SBE BS)

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                                                                                                                                                                                              JAB Nov 28, 2008 09:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              "The hole in the wall Downtown LA at 719 S Los Angeles Street, at the back of the hallway, lunch only; ask for Doña Paty)."

                                                                                                                                                                                              Ric, Please don't leave us hanging on this one. More info. please.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                maxzook Nov 28, 2008 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                RicRios: Sorry, but I can't count your hole-in-the-wall unless you can come up a name.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Das Ubergeek Nov 28, 2008 01:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Darn Ric, you'll just have to suck it up and go back to the hole in the wall for lunch. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    maxzook Nov 28, 2008 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'll be embarassed if it turns out the place is called "The Hole In The Wall". It's just that a Google search revealed the closest restaurant to that address is a Subway, and somehow I don't think that's what he had in mind.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    (Seriously, people, I don't think it's unreasonable of me to require that you name the place -- even taco trucks have names ...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      RicRios Nov 28, 2008 09:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sorry folks, it's just a hole in the wall, doesn't have a name.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      However I perfectly understand logistical problems involved, please just remove from the list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        latindancer Nov 28, 2008 09:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm completely intrigued with this one....a hole in the wall with no name. Next week I'll go find it and try it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          maxzook Nov 29, 2008 01:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          It's not this place, is it?

                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.bonboneriecafe.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm in a better mood today, I'll count it as the "hole in the wall"as long as people don't make a habit of it ("you know, that Italian place at Highland and Melrose, the one with the raw pork fat")

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            RicRios Nov 30, 2008 09:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            bonboneriecafe? ROFLMAO!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              maxzook Dec 1, 2008 08:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I take it that's a "no" ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  ldodb Nov 27, 2008 09:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  OVER $25

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Totoraku
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Go's Mart
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Urasawa
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Spago
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hatfields

                                                                                                                                                                                                  $25 OR LESS

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Langer’s Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Skafs
                                                                                                                                                                                                  KC BBQ Company
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Joe's Pizza
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Loteria

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    ldodb Nov 28, 2008 10:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hmm I forgot about portos, i think that would knock loteria off the list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    floyd_the_barber Nov 27, 2008 08:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Langers Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Robin's Wood Fire BBQ
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Casa Bianca
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Din Tai Fung
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Portillo's Hot Dogs

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      CookieEater Dec 3, 2008 10:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Funny how all 3 of your total posts mention Robin's... hmm... After having the real stuff in the South, I could barely eat Robin's and gave most of it to my dog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Over $25:
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Osteria Mozza

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Under $25:
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sea Harbour (dim sum)
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Golden Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Porto's (ideal destination for pork followed by desserts)
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Barrio Fiesta (another ideal destination for pork)
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Din Tai Fung

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Actually, pretty much all of those are ideal destinations for pork. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. maxzook Nov 27, 2008 08:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If you change your mind, just go ahead and post again, please re-cast your entire vote and not just the changes ... tell me it's a re-vote and I'll take care of it (I'm tracking names, dates and times on my tally, so I will always take your last vote).

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