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How long does beer last?

Chowpatty Nov 26, 2008 09:57 AM

A colleague at work just got rid of a great sampler of beers, but I'm afraid they might be 5 years old or even more. There's some Lindeman's lambic, Orval, Ommegang, etc. -- I guess I can just open them and sample them, but what are the chances that they're all bad?

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    bnemes3343 Nov 26, 2008 10:10 AM

    Beer in my place is lucy if it lasts through half time...

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      Whisper Nov 26, 2008 11:21 AM

      A lot depends on how they have been stored. If it's been in a cool and dark place then they should be fine, and in the case of the beers you mentioned, perhaps it even improved and smoothed out the taste.

      Now if they have been stored in heat and/or with a lot of exposure to light, then that's another story. Like you said, why not crack them open and give them a try.

      bnemes3343, where can I find some of this "lucy" beer? ;-)

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        bnemes3343 Nov 26, 2008 12:54 PM

        Whoops... probably had one too many lucky beers.

    2. The Professor Nov 26, 2008 04:59 PM

      Depends on the beer. Last week I had a bottle of Thomas Hardy's ale that was 21 years old and it was great. Next week I'm opening a bottle of ale that was brewed in 1946, aged 20 years in wood, and finally bottled in 1966. I expect some sherry notes, but also expect it to be quite tasty.
      The bottles you mention may be fine, but a lot depends on how they were stored. If stored at room temperature all that time, with lots of temp fluctuations, I wouldn't expect too much from them...but then again...
      In any case, be sure to report back!!

      1. Chinon00 Nov 26, 2008 08:31 PM

        I literally just got back from the pub after having had an Orval that was labeled with a born on date of Sept 08 and a consume by date of Sept 2013.

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          Kinnexa Nov 27, 2008 05:43 PM

          A 12-pack might last me a week. ;)

          Seriously...it depends on the beer, the way it's stored, probably your relationship with the beer gods. I have a bottle of Sam Adams Triple Bock that must be five years old, and I've been assured it only improves with age. I think we'll pop the cork this weekend. I've also recently had Cooper's Sparkling Ale that I'd had in the fridge for over a year, and it was lovely--also the sediment had *really* settled. I frequently buy last season's microbrews deeply discounted at a local shop, and only once have I had one explode--and that's probably because I rarely refrigerate beer in the colder months.

          So give it a go; just be sure to have something fresh on hand in case the older stuff doesn't taste good. I doubt there's anything in old beer that can kill you.

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            JessKidden Nov 28, 2008 03:42 AM

            "I have a bottle of Sam Adams Triple Bock that must be five years old"

            IIRC, SATB was only brewed and bottled a few times in the mid-1990's, so your bottle is easily a decade old or more. BBC (or it's distributors) continues to release and sell them, however. (A search of the 'net will turn up ways to tell which vintage you have, I'm sure.)

            'I've been assured it only improves with age."

            Did ya get that "assurance" in writing? <g> Now, at the risk of sound like a Beatles song, some folks might respond, "... it can't get no worse...".

            I don't necessarily agree with many of the negative reviews the beer gets, but it is, maybe more than any other beverage that's been marketed as "beer", an "acquired taste". One that, after that first sip or two, many choose to never acquire. I won't mention one of the major comparisons that many people make since it might ruin the experience for you since you'll be prejudiced and thinking of it as you go into it.

            I find SATB, uh, "interesting" and have a bottle or two every year (actually had a case from the first vintage-- long story--.).

            " only once have I had one explode"

            An exploding bottle is not the result of an aged beer, but an improperly bottled one. No beer, regardless of age, should explode- that's the result of too much residual sugars left in a bottle with active yeast or, more likely given the time factor, an infection.

            All beers "change" as they sit in a bottle, whether they're pasteurized, filtered and/or bottle conditioned. Most of those "changes"- for the vast majority of beers- are seen as negative- or at least used to. Certainly that's so for the brewers of said beers- it's why most give their beers very short "shelf lives" of 2 months to a year- and have developed and used the above processes (pasteurization, etc)- they DON'T want their beers to "change" after bottling and before they're consumed.

            The beers that benefit from "cellaring" (a term I've always preferred over "aging", which, to me, should be used to describe the process that's done by the brewery and , in most cases, in bulk and *before* bottling) are usually higher alcohol beers that can stand up to the normal changes or benefit from some of those changes (a blending and mellowing of flavors, especially the "hot" alcohol burn of many high ABV beers).

            There's no doubt that beers with less alcohol and/or herbs, spices, bottle conditioning and some other Belgian styles are nowadays being kept and drank long after "normal" lengths. Some folks find what were once considered "defects" interesting and drinkable changes in the beers. For others people, it's not so easy. (I guess if you love and have only drank fresh milk, your first taste of yogurt might not be too positive, either <g>.)

            Even tho' I have a cellar of several hundred bottles of beer, I sometimes can't get past some of the effects of age on those beers- "That ain't 'aged', that's just old..." I'll think.

            (Of course, all that said and back to the OP's question- I'd definitely try all the beers he mentioned. If you're going "find" a bunch of five year old beers, those are some of the ones I'd want to find.)

            I'm always reminded of a Fritz Maytag quote (who was once shocked that people were cellaring his under-6%ABV Anchor "Our Special Ale"). Tho' unrelated to "aging", it's about a somewhat similar situation in this "brave new world of beer" where there are no longer hard and fast rules or statements about "beer":

            "Unfortunately, (early batches of Anchor Steam Beer) was frequently not very good. It was sour. That’s one reason I can’t drink Belgian-style beers. I realize they are perfectly legitimate, but I made beer like that by accident for quite a while, and I just can’t stand it."

            http://www.lewbryson.com/talkmaytag.htm

          2. tuqueboy Nov 29, 2008 03:47 PM

            Hey chowpatty.
            The Orval and Ommegang are what is known as bottle conditioned; that is, there's still potentially-active yeast in the bottle. Depending upon the condition the bottles were stored in, they could actually be in pretty good shape, because the yeast counteracts any potential infection, and helps ward off the ``bad'' kind of aging. Think of them as wines; bottle-conditioned beers evolve over time. Often, it's for the better, at least for a while. The Ommegang should be lovely. The Orval might be an aquired taste. It already has a tart edge when fresh. After five years, any residual sugars left in it will have been fermented right out, and it will be bone dry. It could be quite interesting. The lambic could be hit or miss, though it probably won't be as good as the other two.
            All the things I've said, however, are contingent upon the beers being stored well. Too hot, and the yeast could have died. Too cool, and it would have gone dormant. Let us know how it all turns out!

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