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I was in Oakland Chinatown so I stopped by Lucky Seafood to look. Crabs were $5.99/lb so I grabbed a couple. The guys there said the season was coming to an end so I got big ones of big ones (2.75-3 lbs). I think there's probably 3-4 weeks left. They were were as good as the rest of the season. I think I'm crabbed out now.
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$3.49/lb at Lions Food Center in Milpitas. Crab looked sufficiently lively in tank to buy and proves to be extraordinarily lively to the test at home.
1. Lower crab right side up in sink.
2. Wave hand over crab.
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Champagne, Sourdough and Dungeness for New Year's Eve. SOP.
Ranch 99 in Mountain View had plenty of 2.5 pounders.
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re: DezzerSF
It had ellow crab butter. Great idea trying to track it.
Also the crab didn't smell super "fishy" when I cooked it. I fully steamed it, with a shallow wire rack to keep the crab just in the water. The difference was the butter wasn't oozing from the joints and getting into the water, and very in tact.
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Not in the SFBay area, but here's a report from the coast: the Gayle boat at the Santa Cruz Harbor had live crabs on 12/23, $4.99/lb. I got his last 3. Staff of Life market in Santa Cruz had live or cooked, $5.75/lb. On Christmas eve, Stagnaro's on the Wharf had cooked-upon-sale crab, $5something/lb. In Scotts Valley, Sandabs restaurant was selling just-cooked local crab (some from the Gayle boat), $4/lb. From what the Sandabs owner said, it didn't sound like the CA harvest has been dwindling; he sold 3000 lbs. on Dec. 22, all local.
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As of 12/20, New May Wah on Clement has live jumbos for $4.99/lb, $3.99/lb for the smaller ones.
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This morning, it seems like prices are up to stay. Pacific Super and Manila Market are both at $4.99. Ranch 99 in Daly City is at $5.49. I ended up at 20th and Irving, don't know the name of the market, small seafood section in back. They have live ones at $3.99, but I had to make him put each one out. A few only had one claw, and some just moved too slowly. I don't think I will make the mistake of inviting a large group over for crab more than a day before I buy it.
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re: oakjoan
Yes. Because of the volume, they don't stay around too long. Also, Costco has a packed on and sell by date on them. I shop at Novato, but I think most Bay Area Costco crabs are supplied by the same wholesaler. Unlike Safeway, Costco crabs are cooked in slightly seasoned water, and taste pretty good. In fact, I'm having crab Louis tonight. Yum!
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Bought three lively and tasty, if slightly small, crabs at Pacific Super on Alemany for $2.99/lb. I suspect that nearby Manila Market has the same price, but it's usually much more difficult to park.
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On Saturday morning, our 3-lb cooked crab was $4.99/lb at Sonoma Market in Sonoma - a
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re: Xiao Yang
I was told this "biggie" came from Bodega Bay... so, yes - it's local. Most of them were two-pounders, but I spied the Big One and snagged it - I will almost never purchase crab that is precooked because I like them feisty and nearly jumping out of the tank right into my pot... this one was very good, not overcooked, meat was sweet and tasted of the sea.
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re: Cynsa
A return on Friday to the Sonoma Market netted another 2-lb. cooked crab for $6.99 lb. not overcooked, firm sweet meat.
Evidently the harvest is cyclical and the catch is bringing home empty nets and higher prices.
Try calling Leonard's Bait Shop in the marina at Port Sonoma on HWY 37 for fresh and alive crab.
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re: Melanie Wong
Heh, coincidence. I just read this after stopping at Leonards for the first time today.
Sole Man: Fresh, live, local crab at the Sonoma marina - or - buying fish off the boat at bait and tackle shops
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/588941I was about to update the place record after posting and then noticed you had. I was thinking ... wow, she's quick ... till I noticed the date was yesterday and I then read this post. Anyway, $7.50 lb today at Leonards ... and local. Anytime you see the sign, they have crabs. Recently I noticed the Berkeley Bait and Tackle had a sign for fresh crab. Haven't stopped there though.
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Ranch 99 foster city $3.69lb. 2 lb or less. The sign says wild caught us but probably washington. the guy didn't know if they were local or not. Lively crabs though...
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re: peppatty
As long as they are lively and fresh, I don't really think it matters what part of the Pacific Coast they are caught off of. We like the think of Dungeness crab as "our" crab, but tend to forget that they are named for a town in Washington which can boast having the West Coast's first commercial fishery.
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re: Xiao Yang
It matters if you want to support the local crab fishers who support each other by sticking to an agreed-upon price (there may be those who don't participate in the negotiations and undercut), and it matters if you like the idea of boats offloading crab locally and not shipping them down here from Oregon or Washington.
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$2.99, live, at Koreana Plaza in Oakland. Also gorgeous Spanish Makrels for 1.99 a pound. Clear eyed ready to grill, or whatever!
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re: mmerino
Since the northern commercial crab season started Dec. 1, crabs are certainly more plentiful but not necessarily truly "local."
Every year one reads about the necessity to reach a fair price in order for the crabbers to survive, so I--who of course enjoy a bargain as much as the next guy--still feel uneasy about prices for live local crab that fall too low. If they can't make enough to keep up their equipment and make a living, there will be no more local crabbing "industry" at all.
The reason for buying live crab has always been, so far as I know, to catch the raw tomalley and use it in flavoring dishes/sauces. Alas, periodically there are warnings about dioxins, etc., which include the advice to toss the innards, at which point it perhaps makes less difference whether the crab is purchased live or precooked (though I would never dream of the latter myself).
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re: Xiao Yang
With the price of everything going through the roof, its very discouraging to be told that wholesalers are buying crab from the fisherman for LESS this year than last. Opening day's price was $1.60/lb, then up to $2 just before Christmas...I think now its at $2.75/lb. That's almost an insult considering how hard one works to catch the little buggers.
Buying a crab live means you get to decide how to prepare it, and the quality will be best since its never been frozen. I always clean them prior to cooking to remove any contaminants, I never cook whole crab. They prefer mud and sand bottom areas, and typically bring some of it with them into the livewell. Like all ocean creatures they make lots of waste, which they are all breathing when kept in close quarters. Besides stinky water, the gills can sometimes carry quite a load of sand and sediments, which gets added to your brine if they're cooked whole. You don't even want to KNOW what the processor's waste water from boiling mass quantities of crab looks like (and smells like), if you did you'd probably never be able to eat crab again. I can definitely say that there is a significant difference in taste between whole and pre-cleaned, whole is much fishier (especially the body meat, which is often wasted because its too strong, what a shame!) while the cleaned crab is more delicate and pure crab. Check out some brine recipes, I've experimented quite a bit and found that you can enhance your crab to 5 star gourmet by adding a few key ingredients.
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Went by Lucky Seafood, still $2.99 but the crabs are smaller. Average 1.5 lb vs. 2.25-2.5 lb last week. Almost didn't buy but then I realized -- they're still $2-freakin'-99. The end might be near however...or not. I guess we'll find out.
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re: ML8000
Went to 99 Ranch in Dublin. $2.99 per lb. However, things might change soon as they were cleaning their tanks and all of the crabs were in single tank. Perhaps they're getting new shipment in today or tomorrow.
Also, saw that Lucky weekly ad (not the Chinese seafood market, but the super market chains) have them for $3.99 per lb. starting tomorrow, cleaning is free. I've never had supermarket precooked crab, so I don't know how good they are.
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re: theSauce
I ate a Lucky cooked crab that I bought on Friday (3-day-only price was 2.99/lb). There were only 5 left and I chose the biggest/fullest legged one, and still it was just over a pound. I didn't have high expectations, so I reheated it over simmering butter/garlic/white wine until hot. It was surprisingly good! Tender and moist like live crab would've been, meat was not stringy at all. It was just small :(. Other years past supermarket cooked crab have been kind of stringy/dry.
Lion Market in San Jose (Capitol Expy) still is $2.99/lb, lots of them, but not totally lively and only a few look big enough to be over 2 lbs. I don't have time on weekdays to deal with live crab but this Friday I'll try some from Lion.
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re: Xiao Yang
No fisherman who wanted to keep being a fisherman would take females, they're job security!!! It wouldn't be easy to get the eggs off anyway, and they'd be full of sand and the furry fringes she glues them to. The flavor of ocean floor and crab excrement would probably overpower whatever taste they have.
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Mission and 23rd.
2.99 a pound
fresh out of the tank and rocking in the bag ta get out.
sweet, sweet, sweet.
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My belly is full and happy after a dinner of a nice big almost 2 pounder from Andronicos. Does anyone know if this price lasts beyond today?
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Sat. 6 Dec. Oaktown, Orient Market, 7th St. Two, combined wt. of 5#, kickin'n'fightin' lively, 3.69/lb.
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I just finished some crabs from Andronicos....excellent.
Tasty,sweet and fresh!
Cleaned and cracked to perfection at the nice price.
Picked them up at the Telegraph store.
Great display of nothing but perfect crabs.
Don't go when its busy...it could take a while ,as they crack and clean them after your order.
Nice reasonably priced store made garlic bread display next to the crab.very tasty and garlicky.
Sale ends Sunday!
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re: Mission
Today's price at 99 Ranch in Richmond was $3.99 lb - 2 -1/4 lbs plus each. I noticed someone asking the fishmonger for some crabs that were "seconds" - one claw / or not too lively, etc ..... they brought out 7 or 8 crabs that were still alive but maybe not too frisky - he got them for his gumbo pot for $1.99 lb.
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re: gordon wing
The tanks were running low this afternoon and the size depends on how much you persist in having the men search through the tanks for large ones. Sometimes they shrug and say that what they have in their hands is the largest they can find. Yesterday in a hurry couldn't get more than 1.6lb.
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$2.99 today at Lucky in Oakland Chinatown. I guess competition or supply really does drive down prices. I was going to wait until the weekend but it's too low to not buy...the bagette I bought was per/lb more expensive.
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re: ML8000
I spot-checked three places on Stockton St. plus the 23rd and Clement Market and they were all under $3. Liang Foods (linked above) had the lowest price at $2.79, but 23rd/Clement had the biggest crabs (at $2.99).
With all the complaints about how disastrous the season was this year, I wonder about the sudden glut of crab at prices as low as they've been in the past three years or so. Has the economy thinned out the market that much, or did it the fishernen suddenly find fertile grounds (just before the North Coast season opened)?
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re: DezzerSF
The places in Chinatown selling them at $2.79 or $2.89 didn't have them at all until the last couple of days, that I could see. They wouldn't even attempt to sell them at $6.99
There's a "gloom and doom" article published as late as yestereday about how terrible the season is, but it contained this interesting qualifier:
"We're hoping that things are just a little late in developing," MacLean said. "Last year it seemed like things showed up a little later. We're hoping same thing happens here."
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re: Xiao Yang
I can only guess but the season must be better then they thought...and/or they were holding things up for Thanksgiving, a high mark up time. Or perhaps it's partly the economy and lower fuel costs? It's all a guess. It will be interesting to see the prices over Xmas and New Years...which leads me to believe, best to eat them now while they're cheap and plentiful. Might be all over by the middle of Jan.
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re: ML8000
The commercial season in NorCal opened Dec 1st...something like 95% of California's crab harvest is landed in Crescent City. The market was flooded. Boats start pulling pots at midnight on the 1st, first truckloads of crab start heading out by noon. Crab can live in a tank for weeks as long as the water stays clean and well aerated. But you are right, cheap crab won't last long. The biggest boats drop hundreds of pots, fish nonstop between storms, then quit after about 6 weeks when the catch starts to decrease. Costs too much to run those big boats and pay the crew. Smaller boats keep fishing until July or whenever the crab decide to start molting, but as supply drops the price jumps up.
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re: ML8000
They were $2.99 at the Lucky in Napa today too. There was a guy standing on the corner waving a sign.
Well, at the high end of prices they were $8.99 at Kanaloa Seafood Market in Oxbow Market. The crabs were a little over two pounds. However, they were the best, livliest crabs I have ever seen. It looked more like an aquarium in that tank. Stunning looking crabs, even the shells looked beautiful. If I had not just eaten I would have bought one. They willl cook them if you like.
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Crab prices are coming down like oil!
$4.99/lb at 99Ranch, Mountain View ,Tues 12/3
$2.99 at 99Ranch, Cupertino, Wed 12/3.
I spoke to the nice lady behind the counrter to get me a lively one with all appendages attached and big in size. She most kindly and graciously responded. accordingly
99 Ranches are independently owned. Mountain View prices have been noted to be higher than Cupertino or Milpitas.
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Local Dungeness were $2.79/lb. today at Liang's Food, 1145 Stockton St. in Chinatown. They were live and lively, and going fast at 2:30 in the afternoon. They have a little hanging sign that says "Local Crab" which they put out when they have them.
If the name doesn't sound familiar, the shop was New Sang Sang Market a year ago..
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re: Xiao Yang
I bought my first live crab of the season in SF chinatown today at Liang's after doing a quick spot check of prices along Stockton St. In the front of Liang's and a few other places, crabs were going for $2.79 and $2.99/lb, but those are small ones and often missing a leg or front claw. Inside and in the back of Liang's in the big tank, the crabs are $3.99/lb, but bigger. Mine was 2.45 lbs.
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Andronicos has local, cooked dungeness crab this week for $3.99/lb.
In past years it has been excellent.
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re: nicedragonboy
If you want to eat it straight from the shell (with a little lemon and butter, perhaps), then you can re-steam it very briefly, probably less than 5 min or it will get too watery, you just want to heat it up a bit.
Or you can just pick the cold meat from the shells and use it an another preparation, such as crab cakes, on salad, etc.
Had a lovely two-pounder last weekend, ate the leg and claw meat (re-heated) for one meal and saved the meat in the body to be picked out for crab cakes the next day. It provided two nice meals for two people.
And, on topic, I did pay $9.99/lb at Lunardi's for the cooked crab. That is higher than the other posts, but I trust trust their quality. Also, they crack it for you at no extra charge, which was convenient for me at the time. I am hoping that as the season progresses the price will come down a little.
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re: nicedragonboy
I usually eat it cold, unadorned.
Sometimes, I'll dip it in champagne vinegar that has shredded ginger or minced shallot in it. The sweetness of the crab fat pairs well with the tang of the vinegar and ginger. It's kind of like the effect you get eating a xiao long bao with vinegar and ginger.
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Andronico's Weekly Specials, Dec. 1-7, 2008, include "fresh local Dungeness Crab @ $3.99/lb. with cracking and cleaning at no extra. That is $4 off their regular price. I just bought a small one in Palo Alto (1.6#) and it's perfect.
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re: kc72
The Solano Safeway didn't have any today and the fish guy said they won't until next Tuesday. (And yet, they had an ad in yesterday's paper.) The Safeway on College doesn't even have a fish counter, so I doubt they have any either. Anyhow, I got one from Andronico's. Hope it's good!
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re: kc72
I doubt there is a "catch". Andronico's has a sale on local crab every year, as soon after the season begins as they are able to get them in large quantities. Although I prefer buying crabs live, I have bought crab from them at this time every year for at least the last 4 years and there hasn't been bad crab in the bunch.
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re: anyhow
I had the day off from work today so inspired by this thread, I made the trek from Castro Valley to the Andronico's on Telegraph in Berkeley. I just got back with 5 cooked, cleaned, cracked crabs for $38.
The Seafood Manager said they were caught and cooked (by the fisherman?) yesterday. When I asked if he had any crabs that arrived and were cooked today, he said the crab are shipped to the stores the day after they're cooked. This sounded odd to me, but I didn't want to take any more of his time, as there were a line of people waiting to purchase crabs at the seafood counter.
We're eating them tomorrow as we have dinner reservations at Zuni tonight, but he said they'd be fine for a couple of days in the fridge. Hopefully ours will taste as good as everyone else's!
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Went to Lucky Seafood in Oakland on E 12th St & 12th Ave...going for about $5.39/lb I believe. I picked up 5 of them, they were about 2-2.5lbs each for the most part, though one was at least a 3 pounder. I found them to be very good, sweet, lots of meat. I was surprised to not see long lines there considering the other prices listed above.
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$5.99/lb at Lucky Seafood in Oakland Chinatown today. 2-lb'ers. Pleasantly surprised. Quite lively and they had two full tanks. Not too busy either.
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re: theSauce
Sorry to hear that. I got three and they were all very good, sweet, subtle, about 2 lbs each. They were very tasty. I could have gorged myself on them...and if the prices drop, I might have to.
Any way, when I went by on Tuesday (and didn't buy) I asked which were from SF Bay and from WA. The guy pointed to the smaller and lighter (in color) for SF and the larger, darker ones for WA. I got the small ones today.
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Alioto-Lazio at Fisherman's Wharf has free parking (for two or three cars) and fresh and lively crab for $5.50 a lb. My last one was 3 lbs, and made the best crab dish La Principessa says she ever ate.
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re: rworange
Dear rworange; Since Alioto-Lazio was closed yesterday and you didn't see the numerous and unmissable tanks (usually) full of crab, I suspect you may have made the understandable error of confusing Alioto's #9 Resaurant with Alioto-Lazio fish company (a completely separate entity/corporation) which is located at 440 Jefferson St.(next door to Coast Industrial Supply, one of the last useful stores on the wharf). My apologies for my failure to link, which I seem to recall you are quite good at. Try again later. Maybe today.
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re: Civil Bear
Bodega Bay update. I tried to do my traditional crab fishing trip with Wills this weekend but the sisters who sold & owned it have moved on to Florida and Oregon. Captain Les has taken over part of the space/business and now its called 'Fish On.' When I spoke with Les he told me that he had already pulled all his gear in because the catch had been so pitiful. Sad but I guess every season is different.
Spuds had local crab bought from a combination of fishermen, cooked for 6.99. These had some missing legs & weren't gorgeous. The owner usually buys her catch from her son who is a careful fisherman & his crabs are perfect. He wasn't due back in till after I left so I missed out on the really good ones. These were great warmed over the campfire, no plates, shells tossed right into the flames. Not as great as catching them yourself though. The chowder was out of this world, also warmed over the fire in a tea kettle-Yummy times.
There were two other vendors selling Live crabs. I didn't catch their price. Live isn't the best bet camping so I didn't bother with the messy fuss. One place is when you first roll into town, bay side of the highway and the other was a private residence on your way to Spud Point/Bodega Head on the right.
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