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Can I really not put my enamel clad in dishwasher r/o

VAfoodie Nov 23, 2008 01:24 PM

It's Rachel Ray.

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    VACluny Dec 3, 2008 08:40 AM

    Hi everyone, I'm new. Great site!

    I love my LC pots and I have one that's 20 years old. I can get them cleaned just fine but I have found that if I put them in the dishwasher, over time they become very dull. I never noticed it until a friend gave us one recently and it was so shiny compared to my older ones, one of which is only a year old.

    Is that the dullness you are referring to can be fixed by the LC cleaner or vinegar? I'd love to be able to bring the shine back to them. Although the 20 year old may be a lost cause. Thanks!

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      mpalmer6c Nov 24, 2008 08:08 PM

      I would follow manufacturer's directions.

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      1. re: mpalmer6c
        HaagenDazs Nov 25, 2008 07:25 AM

        That's a good point, but read carefully. Even high end Wusthof knives are dishwasher safe... but they don't recommend it.

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          Rubee Nov 25, 2008 11:37 AM

          Le Creuset is dishwasher safe though not all enameled cast-iron may be. As other posters mention, I've been washing my Le Creuset in the dishwasher for years. I use Le Creuset Cleaner for stains and to polish if it's dull.

          I just double-checked the Cleaning and Care guide in the Le Creuset pamphlet I have, and according to the manufacturer, there is no harm to washing them in the dishwasher -

          "All pans with integral cast iron, phenolic handles, or stainless steel knobs, can be washed in the dishwasher, but constant dishwashing may lead to some dulling of the enamel finish. This is not harmful and will not impair performance. When using the dishwasher, always allow the cycle to complete before opening the door" so that the pans dry thoroughly. Wooden handles are not dishwasher safe. It also mentions that non-stick surfaces can be washed in the dishwasher, and to recondition with cooking oil after each cycle.

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            askann Nov 25, 2008 04:32 PM

            I have a hard time cleaning my Le Creuset. It is OK to brown meat in it, isn't it? But the inside of my Dutch oven is very stained and sometimes it is hard to remove the burnt residue. I recently bought some special cleaner for enameled cast iron, but it doesn't help much.
            Any suggestions?

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              Rubee Nov 26, 2008 06:32 PM

              I've used the Le Creuset cleaner and it's always worked for me, but I found another Chowhound thread with some info on getting rid of tough stains. Hope it helps, good luck!

              Le Creuset Discoloration
              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/537966

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                askann Nov 26, 2008 07:34 PM

                Thanks! Will check out that other thread.

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        RGC1982 Nov 24, 2008 01:31 PM

        No. You might as well throw the pot out without washing it.

        Come on, it can't be that bad to hand wash, can it?

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          OCAnn Nov 24, 2008 01:47 PM

          And ruin a manicure? ;)

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            RGC1982 Nov 24, 2008 06:43 PM

            Hey -- I am the queen of manicures. It isn't that bad, and if your French tips are that delicate, wear gloves :)

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          FlyFish Nov 24, 2008 06:21 AM

          I've been putting my LC in the dishwasher for nearly 30 years with no problems. Maybe I've just been lucky.

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            HaagenDazs Nov 24, 2008 08:02 AM

            Could be luck, could be the type of detergent you use who knows. I do know that I wouldn't risk it myself. Any kind of reactive metal like cast iron or aluminum shouldn't go in the dishwasher. You are talking about a cast iron enameled pot with the exposed cast iron rim and not a bake ware (no cast iron) dish?

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              FlyFish Nov 24, 2008 08:17 AM

              Yes, standard enameled cast iron Le Creuset, both bottoms and lids, in several different shapes and sizes. Some of it the older version with the exposed iron on the base, some of it the newer enameled base. Three different homes, at least 4 different dishwashers, a few different kinds of DW detergent. Sometimes a very light dust-like orange film on the rim (which is rust, of course, but not much of it, and not every time), easily wiped off with a dish towel, when I bother to wipe it, and no other issues. I suppose eventually it could cause some harm, but there's no visible change in 30 years of doing it, and I don't anticipate that another 30 years will be a problem either, though I won't be around to verify that. No particular problems with aluminum either, though I don't own much of it.

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                paraque Nov 24, 2008 09:41 AM

                LC enameled cast iron (at least the newer LC) actually does not have any edges that have been left exposed. While the top rim looks like exposed cast iron, it is actually coated with an enamel also. This is why LC is dishwasher-safe as long as there are no significant chips in the enamel.

                I don't know if Rachel Ray's enameled cast iron is the same - some enameled cast iron pieces DO have exposed iron at the rim. If that were the case, it probably shouldn't go in the DW. If the instructions that came with your pot said it wasn't dishwasher safe, my guess would be that was why.

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              OCAnn Nov 24, 2008 08:56 AM

              I too put my LC in the dishwasher w/no problem....

            3. HaagenDazs Nov 24, 2008 05:59 AM

              Actually the enamel isn't the problem. Enamel holds up just fine in the dishwasher... hell, most household plates/bowls aren't very different. The problem is the exposed cast iron around the rim. THAT'S what can't hold up to repetitive DW use. It will eventually start to rust and corrode around that area and then you start to run into problems.

              I'll second putting Rachael Ray in the dishwasher... Is there a sanitize cycle on your dishwasher? ;-)

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                adamshoe Nov 23, 2008 03:57 PM

                Sadly, you really can't put enamelled cast iron in the DW. The high heat and the chemicals are not conducive to enamelled cookware. But...can we put Rachael Ray in the DW? Please? Pretty please?..... Adam
                P.S. What is r/o? Rinse only? That might be ok, as there's no heat and no detergent....

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                  VAfoodie Nov 23, 2008 04:30 PM

                  Read on.

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                    adamshoe Nov 23, 2008 04:45 PM

                    I feel so stupid....read on (slaps forehead) Although I think "rinse only" was a damned fine guess!!! LOL Adam

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