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efdee Nov 21, 2008 11:59 AM

I rarely drink beer but would like to have beer with (delivered) pizza occasionally, so I'm looking for a bottled beer that is: (1) good with pizza, and (2) not too hard to find. TIA

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    The Chemist RE: efdee Nov 21, 2008 02:24 PM

    It's hard to think of a beer that doesn't go well with Pizza =D It might depend upon your beer preferences and your pizza preferences. What kind of each do you enjoy most?

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      efdee RE: The Chemist Nov 21, 2008 05:25 PM

      Sorry for the dumb, general, question, but I don't have any beer preferences. I usually drink wine or Manhattans (not with pizza) and aside from a recent taste of draft Maudit (that I liked), don't even know what the alternatives are to Bud Lite. So when I stand in the beer aisle of the super market, should I just pick a bottle of light (not lite) beer at random? The pizza, btw, is sausage/pepperoni : )

    2. Jim Dorsch RE: efdee Nov 21, 2008 06:30 PM

      In another thread on CH I said: Michael Jackson recommended Vienna lager, comparing its malty spiciness and sweetness to cooked-tomato sweetness and basil spiciness in pizza.

      Vienna lager would include such beers as Dos Equis and Negra Modelo, which is a bit darker. These are fairly easy to find.

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        efdee RE: Jim Dorsch Nov 22, 2008 02:19 AM

        Perfect. Both of those will be very easy to find in my neighborhood. Thank you.

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          efdee RE: Jim Dorsch Nov 25, 2008 01:37 PM

          I tried Dos Equis Lager and Amber with my last pizza and thought that they were both too sweet, especially the Amber. So I'll make a list of the other suggestions and try the ones I can find. Thanks much and happy Thanksgiving.

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            Mr Siegal RE: efdee Nov 25, 2008 05:26 PM

            Dos Equis Amber is far superior ot the lager. Please drink more of it.

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              Jim Dorsch RE: efdee Nov 25, 2008 06:01 PM

              If you wanted to explore other such beers, you could look at Gordon Biersch Marzen, if you're in an area where they sell, or some of the German festbiers such as Spaten Oktoberfest. But they might also be sweeter than you like.

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            ndelson RE: efdee Nov 24, 2008 05:34 PM

            I don't like to get too fancy with my pizza-beers.

            Yuengling is a good choice if it's available in your area. Victory Prima Pils is also nice. I also had a Cooper's Sparkling with pizza the other day that I really enjoyed.

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              1stand3rd RE: ndelson Nov 25, 2008 04:21 AM

              Victory Prima Pils is an excellent choice, and one of my favorite brews. I also do not like to get too fancy with my "pizza beer". For this reason, I usually choose Rolling Rock. A Vienna style lager is a good idea and something I will try.

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                jessicheese RE: ndelson Jan 5, 2009 10:52 AM

                I have to second Yeungling! It's nice and smooth. Perfect pizza beer for someone who doesn't drink it often. Other options that come to mind are Stella Artois, Shinerboch, Lefthand Sawtooth Lager (if you can get it in your area), New Castle.....

                Enjoy!

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                chuckl RE: efdee Nov 25, 2008 10:14 AM

                probably anything pilsner or lagerish. How about Pilsner Urquell, which is widely available.

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                  Mr Siegal RE: chuckl Nov 25, 2008 05:28 PM

                  I agree with you but I don't agree with the Pilsner Urquell recommendation. Drink any lager or pilsner that is near where you are. Every microbrewery has a lager or pilsner and I guarantee they are all better than PIlsner Urquell.

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                    Jim Dorsch RE: Mr Siegal Nov 25, 2008 06:02 PM

                    Lagunitas Pils is a great alternative to PU.

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                      Chinon00 RE: Jim Dorsch Nov 26, 2008 12:51 AM

                      I love PU and Staroprahmen so I looked forward to trying LP. I had it on tap at a reputable location and man was I disappointed. The musk and spice that I like about both PU and Staroprahmen were missing. I also found it to be "macro" sweet which wasn't unpleasant but just was not what I desire in a Czech Pils.

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                      The Professor RE: Mr Siegal Jan 29, 2009 11:18 AM

                      I would strongly disagree that every microbrew larger/pilsener is "better than Pilsener Urquell". Pilsener Urquell is a classic...and obviously not for everyone's taste. But microbrew and especially brewpub brew is a very hit or miss thing. Local will definitely not always be better.
                      I love small-brewery products...there are some outstanding micro beers out there for sure, but an awful lot of small breweries and brewpubs simply lack real skill. Having been an avid fan of the micro movement since its earliest days, I can tell you without any doubts or remorse that not all of it is great stuff.

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                        Josh RE: The Professor Jan 29, 2009 12:52 PM

                        Pilsner Urquell in green bottles isn't anything I'd buy. It travels too far, and there's too big a chance of it being lightstruck. The kegged version is much better.

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                          Jim Dorsch RE: Josh Jan 29, 2009 01:05 PM

                          Last time I looked, Lagunitas Pils was rated about the same as PU on beer advocate.

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                            Chinon00 RE: Jim Dorsch Jan 30, 2009 08:11 AM

                            I found Lagunitas Pils to be very disapponting. I'm puzzled by it's popularity. It's supposed to be a Czech style I think and if there were any Saaz hops in there I didn't find any. I found it to be "macro" sweet in a way as well. I'm a pils guys both Czech and German style and it wasn't my thing at all.

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                          yankeefan RE: The Professor Feb 5, 2009 09:52 AM

                          I'll admit to being a bit of a beer snob, but I prefer the beer nerd side.

                          But, Urquell is far far underrated.

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                          mrgrotto RE: Mr Siegal Jan 29, 2009 12:31 PM

                          Eh. People mistake "local" and "craft" as "better." Good example: John Harvard's Pan's Pils is local and craft and I'd take a Pilsner Urquell over that. A bad example: Bud is "local" if you're in St. Louis and, believe it or not, claim to now be a top player in the "craft" beer game (I think they say they're 3rd largest or some such hilarity?).

                          Most brewers I've had the conversation with will say that a pils/lighter (in color... as opposed to a darker lager) lager are the hardest to brew. There's nothing to hide behind and it takes way more finesse. Point is there's plenty of bad local/craft lagers out there.

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                            JessKidden RE: mrgrotto Jan 30, 2009 06:14 AM

                            (I think [A-B] say they're 3rd largest or some such hilarity?).

                            Sounds like it might be a reference to their 1/3 minority ownership of the combined Red Hook-Widmer companies, now know as the "Craft Brewers Alliance" which *is* the #3 craft brewer (behind Boston and Sierra Nevada) and whose beers (along with the Kona and Goose Island brands) are distributed by the A-B network.

                            http://www.craftbrewers.com/

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                              mrgrotto RE: JessKidden Jan 30, 2009 09:18 AM

                              That's exactly it. Makes me giggle.

                      2. Chinon00 RE: efdee Nov 25, 2008 10:23 AM

                        I recentedly had a very hoppy beer (Rogue Brutal Black Bitter) at my new local watering hole. On it's own I have to admit that it was a chore to drink for me. However I ordered a pizza at the bar to eat. And man as the fat and oil from the cheese and sausage were met and cleansed from my palate with those hops and it was very enjoyable. I mean I probably wouldn't order that beer on its own again, but paired with the right thing it is something I look forward to experiencing again soon.

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                          bignickpsu RE: efdee Dec 3, 2008 08:30 AM

                          I dont know how hard it is to find but the local Philly beer writer wrote a column about a beer meant to be drank with pizza. It's called Mamma Mia Pizza Beer. Here is his review:

                          http://www.joesixpack.net/columnArchi...

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                            waylook RE: efdee Dec 13, 2008 01:11 PM

                            Brooklyn Lager is my favorite with pizza, if you can get it where you live.

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                              mrgrotto RE: waylook Jan 28, 2009 04:45 PM

                              Nice... Brooklyn Lager is a good 'un.

                              Depending on toppings, of course, I'll almost always reach for an American non-imperial IPA like Smuttynose, or a crisp lager like Brooklyn or Victory Prima Pils. I wish Sixpoint bottled their Bengali Tiger 'cause that would be the sh*t.

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                                DrewBB RE: mrgrotto Jan 30, 2009 07:43 AM

                                I'll third the Brooklyn Lager. I;ve also always liked Sapporo with pizza, pretty easy to find too.

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                                  TonyO RE: DrewBB Feb 7, 2009 01:39 PM

                                  Brooklyn Lager seems so much tastier on tap than in bottles. Maybe a bad/old six pack here in Vermont ???

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                              lawgirl3278 RE: efdee Dec 17, 2008 06:36 AM

                              I like a lighter beer, like Moretti or Peroni.

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                                Faune RE: lawgirl3278 Feb 4, 2009 04:59 AM

                                I agree Peroni and Moretti go good with pizza and pasta

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                                  Chinon00 RE: Faune Feb 4, 2009 08:36 AM

                                  Why?

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                                    Josh RE: Chinon00 Feb 4, 2009 09:35 AM

                                    Because they're Italian!

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                                      Faune RE: Chinon00 Feb 5, 2009 12:53 AM

                                      To Chinon00,

                                      They just do...their taste, they get the job done. When I was in Rome, Firenze and Venezia I always had a Moretti or Peroni on tap with the food and it worked good for me. They are not "Chimay Grande Réserve", no, but they are decent beers to accompany Pizza, especially takeout pizza.

                                      When you are scarfing down a pizza and washing down with a beer you don't need some fancy expensive brew. Chances are you probably won't be able to fully enjoy it with the overpowering flavors of the pizza. If you want to enjoy a nice beer have it separately, enjoy it for its taste.

                                      But when you want something to go along with your pizza have a decent refreshing, clean, crisp beer which can be drank in quantities. Why get something complex if your barely going to enjoy it for the taste...a waste if you ask me, I'd save the more complex beer to be had by itself.

                                      Anway, for that matter a Pilsner would be fine too: Staropramen, Kozel, Starobrno, Pilsner Urquell. All of which I like as well, even more so than Moretti and Peroni.

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                                        Insidious Rex RE: Faune Feb 5, 2009 09:49 AM

                                        Well said. I too have never really understood the whole beer pairing furor of recent years. When I want a good beer I want to focus on the BEER not anything else. And more often than not I find the food detracts from that. So whats the point of killing yourself trying to make the pairing work if its almost always a detraction? At least for me. Yeah, I also prefer something relatively light when Im eating something good. Something that works well but doesn’t get into the way. Because when I want to focus on the food I don’t want to be distracted by the drink. And vice versa. When I am drinking a very nice Belgian or a rare hop monster or imperial stout Im not interested in clouding my judgment and enjoyment of it by adding a plate of nachos or something even if it is considered the ideal pairing combination in all the right beer circles… So I will often resort to a “simple” decent session style beer when eating rather than trying to find that perfect combination of beer to food that only makes it better. Because in my long experience it almost never works.

                                        The analogy I like to use is you don’t want your rhythm guitarist playing all over your lead man. It just muddles and confuses things and doesn’t allow you to fully appreciate the music as much. You want to focus on the lead guitar and appreciate it with the subtle backing of basic chords provided by the rhythm guy. Or you just want to sit and appreciate a lone guitarist for their art alone. Not try to wrestle apart the music made by two playing at the same time.

                                        Yeah I know, Im an unsophisticated boob but you gotta do what works for you right?

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                                          Faune RE: Insidious Rex Feb 5, 2009 01:58 PM

                                          Thanks Insidious Rex, hopefully your analogy will help people get the picture.

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                                            Jim Dorsch RE: Insidious Rex Feb 5, 2009 04:39 PM

                                            I like music with interlocking guitar parts.

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                                              Insidious Rex RE: Jim Dorsch Feb 6, 2009 09:40 AM

                                              :D
                                              Does Lynard Skynard make a beer? Free Bird IPA perhaps?

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                                              Josh RE: Insidious Rex Feb 6, 2009 11:21 AM

                                              If the food is detracting from the beer, or vice versa, then that means you have an unsuccessful pairing. I do agree that people tend to overcomplicate things when pairing.

                                              A heavy Belgian ale is not anything I would pair with food. Hop monsters should be kept very far away from food. Imperial stout is also not well-suited to food combinations, IMO.

                                              All that said, pairing can work very well with beers that are not too high in alcohol.

                                              Meats that have been grilled or roasted work very well with brown ales and porters. The flavors are complementary, and work well together. Good pairings work like this. The flavors support each other and make something greater than the sum of their parts.

                                    2. Caralien RE: efdee Jan 30, 2009 08:20 AM

                                      I like Organic Weisen-Edel Weisse with sausage & pepperoni pizza; it's a refreshing pairing.

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                                        Mr Siegal RE: efdee Feb 5, 2009 04:20 PM

                                        I had Troeg's Nugget Nectar tonight with my pizza and it was fantastic. The meaty, greasy pizza mixed with the floral hops and above average ABV was wonderful. the best beer of the year, I only wish all my local distributors didnt sell out in less than two weeks!

                                        1. TonyO RE: efdee Feb 7, 2009 01:40 PM

                                          I like a Kolsch style brew with pizza.

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                                            Larry33 RE: efdee Feb 4, 2010 05:50 PM

                                            Old thread but wanted to add my 2cents.

                                            Just had a traditional margherita pizza with a Lowenbrau Original. I thought they went very nicely. Peroni or Moretti is classic with traditional Italian pizza I understand that. That is a likely pairing when in Italy and the memory will make you look fondly on it. I prefer the Lowenbrau because of it's crisp, clean lightly hopped taste. Worked wonderfully!

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                                              californiabeerandpizza RE: Larry33 Feb 5, 2010 09:12 AM

                                              A lot of recommendations on pairing a beer for the one pizza you mentioned that you like. You could go the other way and find beers that you like and then create your own pizzas to pair with the beers.

                                            2. Alan N RE: efdee Feb 23, 2010 06:01 PM

                                              I think I am the 4th to like Brooklyn Lager for Pizza. I like Leinenkugels Lager (original) the best for my pizza night. It is flavorful and refreshing with good carbonation and a taste that holds up to pizza and lingers a bit without being overwhelming.

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                                                vanierstudent RE: efdee Mar 1, 2010 10:20 AM

                                                I like Griffon Extra Blonde with my pizza. Then again, I live in Canada so I don't know if its hard to find in the USA.

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                                                  Jim Dorsch RE: vanierstudent Mar 1, 2010 11:33 AM

                                                  Griffon is McAuslan, right? I believe their beers are back in the US, although I haven't seen them around here. I have a wonderful memory of their oatmeal stout on nitro in a Montreal bar.

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                                                    vanierstudent RE: Jim Dorsch Mar 1, 2010 04:53 PM

                                                    Yes it is. The Oatmeal stout and the vintage ale(when available, and it isn't cheap either) are the best beer that McAuslan produce=).

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