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I like Griffon Extra Blonde with my pizza. Then again, I live in Canada so I don't know if its hard to find in the USA.
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Old thread but wanted to add my 2cents.
Just had a traditional margherita pizza with a Lowenbrau Original. I thought they went very nicely. Peroni or Moretti is classic with traditional Italian pizza I understand that. That is a likely pairing when in Italy and the memory will make you look fondly on it. I prefer the Lowenbrau because of it's crisp, clean lightly hopped taste. Worked wonderfully!
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re: Chinon00
To Chinon00,
They just do...their taste, they get the job done. When I was in Rome, Firenze and Venezia I always had a Moretti or Peroni on tap with the food and it worked good for me. They are not "Chimay Grande Réserve", no, but they are decent beers to accompany Pizza, especially takeout pizza.
When you are scarfing down a pizza and washing down with a beer you don't need some fancy expensive brew. Chances are you probably won't be able to fully enjoy it with the overpowering flavors of the pizza. If you want to enjoy a nice beer have it separately, enjoy it for its taste.
But when you want something to go along with your pizza have a decent refreshing, clean, crisp beer which can be drank in quantities. Why get something complex if your barely going to enjoy it for the taste...a waste if you ask me, I'd save the more complex beer to be had by itself.
Anway, for that matter a Pilsner would be fine too: Staropramen, Kozel, Starobrno, Pilsner Urquell. All of which I like as well, even more so than Moretti and Peroni.
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re: Faune
Well said. I too have never really understood the whole beer pairing furor of recent years. When I want a good beer I want to focus on the BEER not anything else. And more often than not I find the food detracts from that. So whats the point of killing yourself trying to make the pairing work if its almost always a detraction? At least for me. Yeah, I also prefer something relatively light when Im eating something good. Something that works well but doesn’t get into the way. Because when I want to focus on the food I don’t want to be distracted by the drink. And vice versa. When I am drinking a very nice Belgian or a rare hop monster or imperial stout Im not interested in clouding my judgment and enjoyment of it by adding a plate of nachos or something even if it is considered the ideal pairing combination in all the right beer circles… So I will often resort to a “simple” decent session style beer when eating rather than trying to find that perfect combination of beer to food that only makes it better. Because in my long experience it almost never works.
The analogy I like to use is you don’t want your rhythm guitarist playing all over your lead man. It just muddles and confuses things and doesn’t allow you to fully appreciate the music as much. You want to focus on the lead guitar and appreciate it with the subtle backing of basic chords provided by the rhythm guy. Or you just want to sit and appreciate a lone guitarist for their art alone. Not try to wrestle apart the music made by two playing at the same time.
Yeah I know, Im an unsophisticated boob but you gotta do what works for you right?
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re: Insidious Rex
If the food is detracting from the beer, or vice versa, then that means you have an unsuccessful pairing. I do agree that people tend to overcomplicate things when pairing.
A heavy Belgian ale is not anything I would pair with food. Hop monsters should be kept very far away from food. Imperial stout is also not well-suited to food combinations, IMO.
All that said, pairing can work very well with beers that are not too high in alcohol.
Meats that have been grilled or roasted work very well with brown ales and porters. The flavors are complementary, and work well together. Good pairings work like this. The flavors support each other and make something greater than the sum of their parts.
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I dont know how hard it is to find but the local Philly beer writer wrote a column about a beer meant to be drank with pizza. It's called Mamma Mia Pizza Beer. Here is his review:
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I recentedly had a very hoppy beer (Rogue Brutal Black Bitter) at my new local watering hole. On it's own I have to admit that it was a chore to drink for me. However I ordered a pizza at the bar to eat. And man as the fat and oil from the cheese and sausage were met and cleansed from my palate with those hops and it was very enjoyable. I mean I probably wouldn't order that beer on its own again, but paired with the right thing it is something I look forward to experiencing again soon.
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probably anything pilsner or lagerish. How about Pilsner Urquell, which is widely available.
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re: Jim Dorsch
I love PU and Staroprahmen so I looked forward to trying LP. I had it on tap at a reputable location and man was I disappointed. The musk and spice that I like about both PU and Staroprahmen were missing. I also found it to be "macro" sweet which wasn't unpleasant but just was not what I desire in a Czech Pils.
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re: Mr Siegal
I would strongly disagree that every microbrew larger/pilsener is "better than Pilsener Urquell". Pilsener Urquell is a classic...and obviously not for everyone's taste. But microbrew and especially brewpub brew is a very hit or miss thing. Local will definitely not always be better.
I love small-brewery products...there are some outstanding micro beers out there for sure, but an awful lot of small breweries and brewpubs simply lack real skill. Having been an avid fan of the micro movement since its earliest days, I can tell you without any doubts or remorse that not all of it is great stuff.-
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re: Jim Dorsch
I found Lagunitas Pils to be very disapponting. I'm puzzled by it's popularity. It's supposed to be a Czech style I think and if there were any Saaz hops in there I didn't find any. I found it to be "macro" sweet in a way as well. I'm a pils guys both Czech and German style and it wasn't my thing at all.
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re: Mr Siegal
Eh. People mistake "local" and "craft" as "better." Good example: John Harvard's Pan's Pils is local and craft and I'd take a Pilsner Urquell over that. A bad example: Bud is "local" if you're in St. Louis and, believe it or not, claim to now be a top player in the "craft" beer game (I think they say they're 3rd largest or some such hilarity?).
Most brewers I've had the conversation with will say that a pils/lighter (in color... as opposed to a darker lager) lager are the hardest to brew. There's nothing to hide behind and it takes way more finesse. Point is there's plenty of bad local/craft lagers out there.
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re: mrgrotto
(I think [A-B] say they're 3rd largest or some such hilarity?).
Sounds like it might be a reference to their 1/3 minority ownership of the combined Red Hook-Widmer companies, now know as the "Craft Brewers Alliance" which *is* the #3 craft brewer (behind Boston and Sierra Nevada) and whose beers (along with the Kona and Goose Island brands) are distributed by the A-B network.
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I don't like to get too fancy with my pizza-beers.
Yuengling is a good choice if it's available in your area. Victory Prima Pils is also nice. I also had a Cooper's Sparkling with pizza the other day that I really enjoyed.
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In another thread on CH I said: Michael Jackson recommended Vienna lager, comparing its malty spiciness and sweetness to cooked-tomato sweetness and basil spiciness in pizza.
Vienna lager would include such beers as Dos Equis and Negra Modelo, which is a bit darker. These are fairly easy to find.
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re: The Chemist
Sorry for the dumb, general, question, but I don't have any beer preferences. I usually drink wine or Manhattans (not with pizza) and aside from a recent taste of draft Maudit (that I liked), don't even know what the alternatives are to Bud Lite. So when I stand in the beer aisle of the super market, should I just pick a bottle of light (not lite) beer at random? The pizza, btw, is sausage/pepperoni : )
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