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T Day line-up - what is everyone pouring?

We will be guests at a dinner for eight. The food will be traditional Thanksgiving favorites - Turkey, dressing, assorted sides. We have been assigned the task of bringing wines for the pre-dinner festivities / appetizers, and the white wines for dinner. Another couple has the task of bringing the dinner red wines and dessert wines.

So far we have settled on:

Pierre Peters Blanc de Blanc Champagne
Chalk Hill Chardonnay 2005 Sonoma County
Pine Ridge Chenin Blanc / Viogner Blend 2007
Keplinger Red Slope Grenache 2006

Of course, I reserve the right to change the line-up partially and / or completely before next Thursday.

Anyone else want to share their plans?

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  1. Without trying to sound TOO snobbish, it always depends upon who's coming to dinner, doesn't it? I've aways thought that what the world needed was a great $5 bottle of wine -- OK, $15, due to inflation -- something inexpensive for everyday and easy to open when Aunt Bertha and Uncle Seymour drop by, yet good enough for you to enjoy!

    My point being is that we're going over to my brother-in-law's house. He and his wife enjoy wine, but some members of the extended family . . . well, let's just say the contents of some glasses of wine disappear far too quickly, and with a certain regularity, that it doesn't necessarily matter if you are serving Pierre Peters (excellent choice!) or Andre . . . .

    So, while I'll no doubt bring some 2005 Morgon or Moulin-a-Vent, I will probably also pick up some 2007 Beaujolais Nouveau . . . if you catch my drift! ;^)

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    1. re: zin1953

      "So, while I'll no doubt bring some 2005 Morgon or Moulin-a-Vent, I will probably also pick up some 2007 Beaujolais Nouveau . . . if you catch my drift! ;^)"

      A favorite trick of Richard Nixon - who purportedly drank '61 Margaux (wrapped in a white cloth), while Whitehouse guests were served something less noble

    2. Bought a 1.5 liter of Frog's Leap Zin to have during the turkey phase of the day. After that, whatever people brought and/or whatever else sounds good to discerning palates.

      1. Whatever will help to get me through it.

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        1. I'm also a guest at a family potluck affair. Some drink wine, many beer, even more diet soda. In addition to my pies, Southern cornbread dressing, and veggie, I'll be bringing Joseph Drouhin Beaujolais Nouveau, and Mönchhof Estate Riesling. I'm saving the Pierre Peters for a quieter occasion!

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          1. re: vickib

            We will be drinking;
            NV R.H. Coutier Grand Cru
            N.V. Agrapart Rose
            2006 Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet Monthelie Rouge
            2005 Domaine de la Fontainerie Vouvray Sec
            Bual Madiera

          2. 1995 Cronin pinot noir Santa Cruz mountains
            And I haven't decided on the white. Right now it's either the 2007 Talley riesling, because I want to double check and make sure it's as good as it tasted in the tasting room before I continue proclaiming its greatness, or maybe a split of the 2006 Talley estate chardonnay or a funky white from Avanguardia, a Grass Valley winery doing some neat, interesting things.

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            1. re: SteveTimko

              oh, steve - tell me about the cronin and if you can find it in reno - i was planning on siduri, but i love a good pinot with turkey and am always looking for something new.

              1. re: nancyhudson

                The only places for sure that I know has Cronin in Reno is my wine locker and a friend's wine locker. We bought it from K&L Wines in San Francisco and they've long since sold out.
                Siduri is nice. Washoe Wine Co. has Dierberg and Stoller pinot noir that's good, plus they carry lots of Cru Beaujolais that might be different if you haven't tried it.

                1. re: nancyhudson

                  Nancy,

                  The late Duane Cronin produced many outstanding vintages of Santa Cruz Mountains Pinot Noir and Chardonnay, as well as sourcing grapes from as far afield as Sonoma and Monterey. They are worth seeking out, but like most Santa Cruz Mountain vintners, Duane "flew under the radar" and few people outside of the immediate region knew of his wines. (For every Ridge, there are a dozen or more very good-to-excellent producers with little or no name recognition.) As a result, when Duane passed away, there was a sizeable inventory of his wines left unsold, and K&L snapped up all (or a very significant amount) and had a great sale on these wines . . . .

                  Cheers,
                  Jason

              2. Just six of us of Thanksgiving. Two don't drink wine, and my mother-in-law rarely deviates from white zin!! The idea of a long and sultry evening of aperitifs, sparkling wine, white, followed by red, followed by a dessert wine was certainly appealing. Alas, I settled on:
                (1) Lucien Albrecht Cremant d'Alsace Brut Rose, which not only is wonderful, but also looks like white zin; (2) the reliable and mother-in-law friendly Monchhof Mosel Slate Riesling Spatlese; and (3) Wine Spectator's surprise #10 Seghesio 2007 Zinfandel. Pumpkin pie will be served with coffee to keep people alert for the ride home.

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                1. re: OCKevin

                  Yeah, that pumpkin pie is more powerful than benzedrine!!! ;^)

                  1. re: OCKevin

                    "but also looks like white zin"

                    That's the great thing about "pink" wine. People who are white zin drinkers will drink anything pink without hesitation. So you can bring something serious but that everyone can and will drink. It's all so psychological.

                    1. re: Chinon00

                      And the bubbles are a plus! BTW, I still have to figure out Chow's user unfriendly editing function. I tried to clean up my entry a bit a few times, but the results never "saved."

                      1. re: OCKevin

                        «I tried to clean up my entry a bit a few times, but the results never "saved."»

                        This problem appears to be linked to the lag/latency issue discussed on the Technical Help and Site Talk boards. Sometimes the changes take, sometimes they don't. In critical cases, you can always e-mail the revised text to the moderators and ask them to update the post for you.

                  2. Generally don't go this high-end for T Day, but decided to bump it up...

                    1988 Veuve Clicquot La Grande Dame (Magnum)
                    1996 Comte Lafon Meursault Charmes
                    2002 Quilceda Creek Cabernet Sauvignon (Magnum)
                    1998 Guigal La Mouline Cote Rotie.

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                    1. re: WineAG

                      if I'm in your area, can I stop by? ;-)

                      1. re: ibstatguy

                        In theory I like the idea... but even if you were in the area you wouldn't want to be subjected to the family stuff. I'm a big believer in sharing wines. If Im ever in a restaurant and someone at another table (or more typically at the bar) expresses an interest in a particular bottle I'm drinking I always pour a taste for them. It's led to some fascinating discussion and a few continuing friendships. After all, that's what food and wine is all about... people.

                        Better, would be to do a dinner at a restaurant... I'd bring wines of this caliber to share. Wonder if that's done, or if CH allows that type of thing?

                        1. re: WineAG

                          have never seen a suggestion for a group thing on CH before but it happens frequently with people on the ebob/squires board.

                          totally agree with you on sharing wines

                            1. re: zin1953

                              that seemed to be where WineAG was going

                    2. I have no idea. Of eight at our table, only five are old enough to drink. One of those is pregnant. Another is married to the pregnant one, and may or may not be drinking. The mother-in-law drinks wine once a year, if that. So that leaves me and the missus. And she, God knows why, likes Nouveau.

                      I will definitely be pouring R. W. Knudsen aprkling juices for the underage. I may not open any wine until later in the day after everyone has left and the next-door neighbors might be up for a glass or two. With them, however, wine might be trumped by Springbank 15-year single malt.

                      1. We're bringing a couple bottles of Orin Swift's "Prisoner". My wife and I were on our own last year. We were intrigued by a suggestion that zinfandel was a good match for a traditional T Day dinner and decided to open a few to try side by side. I believe they were Nalle (old school; balanced, restrained with a sane alc level), another that escapes me (typical of current production; jammy fruit bomb with high alc) and the Prisoner (unusual zin blend; fruit bomb with high alc).

                        We kept going back to the Prisoner. It was like a butt-kicking cranberry sauce and seemed to go well with everything on the table... and the label is so festive.

                        I'm not a big fan of that style of wine anymore but I now grab a couple Prisoner with each new release specifically for Thanksgiving.

                        1. I am pouring two wonderful 2006 Oregon Pinot Noir's. First will be Antica Terra and second Lemelson - Johnson Vineyard. Both are drinking very well.

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                          1. re: duck833

                            Certianly some nice selections and ideas here. Unfortunately this year it appears to be just the wife, youngest son and I as potential guests have made other plans. My wife recently became enamored with Jacob's Creek REserve Merlot which she had a glass of at a local restaurant. Most stores around here had the regular (non Reserve) Merlot which isn't too drinkable. Alas, she found a couple of bottles of Reserve Shiraz which, as I am to understand it, what we are now drinking on Thanksgiving. I might sneak home a nice Pinot( I've seen Lemelson in a local wine shop) or Granacha (Tres Rios, if they aren't out) just to have something good.

                          2. probably starting with a Barthelemy rose champagne and its kinda wide open from there. Depending on how quickly that goes down, I'm also eying a Larmandier brut tradition. I'll probably open a Dehlinger PN rose, thinking about opening a Gutzler blanc de noir (still) as a white wine although I've got some Ken Wright pinot blanc that could get used.

                            1. Going inexpensive and somewhat off the beaten track for 5 others:

                              NV Champalou Vouvray Brut, Loire
                              NV Gruet Blanc de Noirs Brut, New Mexico
                              2006 S. Tissot Traminer, Jura
                              2005 Torbreck 'Cuvée Juveniles,' Barossa

                              The sparkling Vouvray is a good aperitif, the Gruet slightly fuller bodied. The Jura traminer is meant to cause confusion and/or revelation, and the Torbreck GSM will take the place of the fruit-bomb zinfandel so everyone can go home early.

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                              1. re: mengathon

                                Is the Traminer from Jura oxidized like the chardonnay and that other white grape whose name escapes me right now?

                                1. re: SteveTimko

                                  Savagnin is the Jura's other white grape. Gewurztraminer is thought to be a musqué mutant of it. Tissot's Traminer is an unoxidized rendition of Savagnin. A really vibrant wine with good stuffing balanced by zingy acidity.

                                  1. re: carswell

                                    Hmm, the last time I had the Tissot Traminer at a tasting, I recall slight oxidative notes that I thought were indicative of the wines from Jura, but I could be entirely mistaken. I might have the savagnin and the traminer confused.

                                    One thing I do remember is being absolutely floored by the NV Tissot crémant. I've not found the opportunity to sneak it in as a ringer in a blind vintage champagne tasting. We'll have to get a bunch of CHer's together one of these days.

                                    1. re: mengathon

                                      Well, it is confusing with Tissot, who makes wines under his own name, his parents' name (André et Mireille Tissot) and the Cave de la Reine Jeanne "budget" label. And, if you indeed had a Traminer, something could have happened to it on route to wherever you drank it.

                                      But the Traminers he bottles -- at least the ones under the Stéphane Tissot and André et Mireille Tissot labels -- are *ouillé*, topped up, to prevent oxidation. As his website says, "It is the expression of Savagnin in our terroir without oxidation."
                                      www.stephane-tissot.com/en/fiche-tech...
                                      www.stephane-tissot.com/en/actualite-...

                                      See "Flight 3" here for a bit more background: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/304128

                                      That said, the idea of a nutty oxidized Savagnin as a pairing for a T-day dinner had never occurred to me but definitely intrigues. Let us know how it works out.

                                      1. re: carswell

                                        carswell,

                                        Thanks for the clarification. It turns out I have quite a bit of cellar management to get done.

                                        You were right on the money. The actual wine was:

                                        A&M Tissot Traminer 2004, made by Stephan. The wine was medium-full bodied, with a clean nose and no oxidative notes, but full of minerals and earth, finishing with a gewurz-like white pepper kick. In terms of more regularly encountered wines, I want to say it was like a pinot bianco on the nose and palate, a gewurztraminer on the finish, all with the acidity of a Chablis.

                                        Initially, there was some funk, and my friends made funny faces. But after the wine opened up, and the food hit the table, the whole thing actually worked out great. I'm a little surprised that the group had a unanimous positive reaction to it. The body was big enough to handle all the turkey and strongly flavored side dishes which included bacon. Something more delicate would have been overwhelmed. And the acidity took on the cranberry sauce and sweet potatoes. Indeed, a very happy and fortuitous pairing.

                                        All in all, plans were changed, and here's what we wound up drinking, in order:

                                        NV Gruet (75% chard, 25% PN)
                                        NV Veuve Clicquot
                                        1999 Laurent-Perrier
                                        2005 Torbreck Juveniles (60%G, 30%M, 10%S)
                                        2003 Rioja Riserva, don't remember the producer. A very nice wine, but in the wrong order, and was overwhelmed by the food
                                        2004 Louis Martini Cabernet, Napa

                                        The Gruet turned out to be the aperitif, which was fine, since most of the group seemed to like fuller-bodied bubbly. The last drops of it were had along with the Veuve and the 1999 LP, and drunk with oysters and clams rockerfeller. Delightful! I don't love LP, but it's one of the NMs that I prefer, and next to the Veuve, really shows its colors as a well-made, vintage champagne on the basic level.

                                  1. re: ibstatguy

                                    Very much looking forward to trying the bubbly version. I've found his dry vouvrays to be great value.

                                    1. re: mengathon

                                      the dry version is an outstanding QPR

                                  2. re: mengathon

                                    ooh I'm going with champalou too.

                                    I've got the non-sparkling version of the Champalou though, as well as a Stringtown Pinot Noir (Willamette), a Barmes Buecher Pinot Blanc (Alsace), and if the party continues, a Rafanelli Zin (Dry Creek).

                                    1. re: oolah

                                      If you're into Barmes Buecher, pick up his Edelswicker. Mouthwatering stuff.

                                  3. I've been thinking some Txakolina might be very good; its got (in my experience) a hint of effervesence and is othewise a delighful wine

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                                    1. re: ibstatguy

                                      I assume you mean Txakolina Blanco. There is also tinto and rosado.

                                      1. re: Brad Ballinger

                                        Brad: yes, the Blanco. I've read elsewhere about the tinto but have never actually seen any to try. I have one btl left so it may be gone after tomorrow.

                                    2. piper sonoma brut will be available to all.
                                      '05 charles krug cabernet sauvignon for the meal.

                                      nothing fancy.

                                      1. Due to lack of wine appreciation in my extended family, DH and I chose to bring fruit wines. One each of NJ red (Bellview NV) and white (Velanzano NV) cranberry wines. It was the first time I saw the grandmoms go for second glasses. Both bottles were done before dinner. What a hit.

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                                        1. re: njchowgal

                                          final tally for us was:

                                          2007 Robert Foley Pinot Blanc
                                          2003 Owen Roe Abbot's Table
                                          2002 McCrea Sirocco
                                          2006 Patz & Hall Pinot Noir Sonoma Coast
                                          2005 Georges Dubœuf Fleurie Domaine des Quatre Vents
                                          2003 Lewis Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon Mason's
                                          2006 Kosta Browne Pinot Noir Sonoma Coast

                                          1. re: TBird

                                            Great choice in the Patz & Hall pinot. We find it superb with game birds, and even a milder turkey!

                                        2. '98 Henriot rose
                                          Louis Barthélémy Champagne Brut Rosé
                                          '06 Dehlinger PN rose
                                          '05 Julius Wasem & Sohen Spatburgunder
                                          '07 Gutzler Blanc de Noir

                                          1. That was quite a nice lineup. Tell us how the wines fared with the guests!