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bermudagourmetgoddess Nov 17, 2008 04:36 PM

Hey chowhounds I call on you once again in locating the BEST bagels and lox in NY, we are staying in Midtown. But of course if it's the best we do not mind the hike.

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    pinchy Nov 19, 2008 05:45 AM

    Do you have hot-smoked salmon in Manhattan? On the Barney Greengrass menu (and other menus) I have seen 'kippered salmon' and I'm wondering if that is actually what in the UK we call hot-smoked salmon.

    1. ballulah Nov 18, 2008 07:39 PM

      The lox may not be the best, but if you're staying in Midtown (west or east?) I highly highly HIGHLY recommend Times Sq Bagels on 44th and Broadway; right next to Ollie's and Carmine's. This is the last surviving outpost of Columbia Bagels, which used to consistently top NYC's best of bagels list in the '90's...they used to be the bagel suppliers for Zabar's and Murray's Sturgeon Shop (not to be confused with Murray's Bagels, also excellent bagels BTW). Nothing's changed about the bagels, they are just overlooked because of the new and horrid location and a poor PR machine. They used to be on 110th and Broadway, but there's a dorm or an apartment building in its old spot.

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        adam Nov 19, 2008 05:42 AM

        Yes! I used to live in the neighborhood, and the bagels there are the real deal for sure. Elsewhere, I'll echo recs for Murray's Bagels, Barney Greengrass, Russ & Daughters, and also throw out that if you're near the Lower East Side (perhaps at R & D), make a trip to Kossar's for the best bialy you're likely to ever have. And, if you have a sweet tooth, head a few doors down to the doughnut plant.

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          MWinston Jun 22, 2009 02:42 PM

          Wen to Times Sq. Bagels this morning, on this recomendation. It was delicious!

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          Times Square Hot Bagels
          200 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036

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          kathryn Nov 18, 2008 10:03 AM

          FYI "lox" is not the same as smoked salmon...just be aware of what you're getting! Some people ask for lox when they mean smoked salmon and then think that the fish was disgusting because it is very, very salty!

          http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2008/08...

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            bermudagourmetgoddess Nov 18, 2008 01:53 PM

            I am well aware of what lox is ...and I LOVE it ....thanks for looking out for me :)

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              Big Bad Voodoo Lou Nov 18, 2008 02:02 PM

              My girlfriend (now fiancee) and I visited NYC this summer and made the pilgrimage to Barney Greengrass. She asked for a bagel with lox, and our waiter very forcibly told her "No no, you really don't want lox. You're going to hate it. Get nova instead, trust me." She listened to him and loved it. I thought I had had lox before, but apparently I haven't if it's as salty as everyone says.

              On that note, we both completely fell in love with Ess-A-Bagel.

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                bermudagourmetgoddess Nov 18, 2008 02:30 PM

                For people who did not grow up eating lox I can see why you would not like it, but I did...sorry sill love lox and always will

            2. ellenost Nov 18, 2008 07:17 AM

              Best lox: Russ & Daughters

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                Lettucepray Nov 17, 2008 07:11 PM

                Tal Bagels...all around the city.
                Great bagels and lox

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                  RussianGirl Nov 18, 2008 05:50 AM

                  I would agree, except for the location on Bway and 90th - was disappointed.

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                  harrison Nov 17, 2008 05:43 PM

                  Best Lox - Russ and Daughters, Fairway (Eastern Gaspe), Zabars, Barney Greengrass...

                  Best Bagel - Absolute, David's, H&H, Murray's, ess-a-bagel....

                  Best place to get them together as a sandwich.....good question.

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                    JungMann Nov 18, 2008 05:48 AM

                    Barney Greengrass serves H&H bagels which makes them the team to beat, in my opinion. It's best to go earlier in the day to make sure your bagel is fresh.

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                      harrison Nov 18, 2008 08:58 AM

                      I would agree, but plenty of H&H haters lurking in these here boards!

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                        addictedtolunch Nov 18, 2008 05:26 PM

                        I'm a hater- sign me up! H & H are too soft, too sweet, too expensive.

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                          ballulah Nov 18, 2008 07:34 PM

                          Hear hear. If I find out a place is serving H&H bagels, I pass. Spot on on the too too too.

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                      uwsister Nov 18, 2008 07:48 PM

                      Ditto on Russ and Daughters and Absolute.

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