Bagels and Lox

[bermudagourmetgoddess]

Hey chowhounds I call on you once again in locating the BEST bagels and lox in NY, we are staying in Midtown. But of course if it's the best we do not mind the hike.

[pinchy]

Do you have hot-smoked salmon in Manhattan? On the Barney Greengrass menu (and other menus) I have seen 'kippered salmon' and I'm wondering if that is actually what in the UK we call hot-smoked salmon.

[ballulah]

The lox may not be the best, but if you're staying in Midtown (west or east?) I highly highly HIGHLY recommend Times Sq Bagels on 44th and Broadway; right next to Ollie's and Carmine's. This is the last surviving outpost of Columbia Bagels, which used to consistently top NYC's best of bagels list in the '90's...they used to be the bagel suppliers for Zabar's and Murray's Sturgeon Shop (not to be confused with Murray's Bagels, also excellent bagels BTW). Nothing's changed about the bagels, they are just overlooked because of the new and horrid location and a poor PR machine. They used to be on 110th and Broadway, but there's a dorm or an apartment building in its old spot.

[adam]

Yes! I used to live in the neighborhood, and the bagels there are the real deal for sure. Elsewhere, I'll echo recs for Murray's Bagels, Barney Greengrass, Russ & Daughters, and also throw out that if you're near the Lower East Side (perhaps at R & D), make a trip to Kossar's for the best bialy you're likely to ever have. And, if you have a sweet tooth, head a few doors down to the doughnut plant.

[MWinston]

Wen to Times Sq. Bagels this morning, on this recomendation. It was delicious!

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Times Square Hot Bagels
200 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036

[kathryn]

FYI "lox" is not the same as smoked salmon...just be aware of what you're getting! Some people ask for lox when they mean smoked salmon and then think that the fish was disgusting because it is very, very salty!

http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2008/08...

[bermudagourmetgoddess]

I am well aware of what lox is ...and I LOVE it ....thanks for looking out for me :)

[Big Bad Voodoo Lou]

My girlfriend (now fiancee) and I visited NYC this summer and made the pilgrimage to Barney Greengrass. She asked for a bagel with lox, and our waiter very forcibly told her "No no, you really don't want lox. You're going to hate it. Get nova instead, trust me." She listened to him and loved it. I thought I had had lox before, but apparently I haven't if it's as salty as everyone says.

On that note, we both completely fell in love with Ess-A-Bagel.

[bermudagourmetgoddess]

For people who did not grow up eating lox I can see why you would not like it, but I did...sorry sill love lox and always will

[ellenost]

Best lox: Russ & Daughters

[Lettucepray]

Tal Bagels...all around the city.
Great bagels and lox

[RussianGirl]

I would agree, except for the location on Bway and 90th - was disappointed.

[harrison]

Best Lox - Russ and Daughters, Fairway (Eastern Gaspe), Zabars, Barney Greengrass...

Best Bagel - Absolute, David's, H&H, Murray's, ess-a-bagel....

Best place to get them together as a sandwich.....good question.

[JungMann]

Barney Greengrass serves H&H bagels which makes them the team to beat, in my opinion. It's best to go earlier in the day to make sure your bagel is fresh.

[harrison]

I would agree, but plenty of H&H haters lurking in these here boards!

[addictedtolunch]

I'm a hater- sign me up! H & H are too soft, too sweet, too expensive.

[ballulah]

Hear hear. If I find out a place is serving H&H bagels, I pass. Spot on on the too too too.

[uwsister]

Ditto on Russ and Daughters and Absolute.