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Another NEW CHINESE RESTAURANT in Richmond Hill

FYI, a new 'fine dining' Chinese ( Cantonese) restaurant has sprung up on 9665 Bayview Avenue opposite Maxim. Name is 'YANG'S FINE CHINESE CUISINE '. Decor was modern and elegant. Tried their Dim Sum for lunch today. Food presentation might not be as appealing and pretty as say Empire court, however quality was very very good. Price is a bit on the high side but comparable to say Full House. Definitely one of the best in Richmond Hill. ( at least the Har Gow, which was superb! )
I'll give their dinner a try one day and report back.

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  1. Did the restuarant that used to be there close down? That place was pretty good, if they've changed I will make a trip over there and try the new place!

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    1. re: Wil

      Yes! The restaurant changed hand twice in 6 months! Hope this is third time lucky!

    2. Thank you Charles, I will have to try it too. Glad to know it's Har Gow is good, the Har Gow at Dragon Boat is also good, I found it better than Empire Court on this item and overall dim sum quality is good too ! With the dim sum price (S, M, L) at $2.4, $3.4 and $4.4, it is full even on a weekday ! They also have the special deal with all dim sum the same price at $2 something before 11:30 am, but I have not tried that.

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      1. re: skylineR33

        Good call on Dragon Boat. I've only had the dim sum once at their new location, but it was distinctively good that one time.

      2. They just come out with a banquet menu for 10 at an incredible price of $2388.00 per table!!

        Menu features a cold platter featuring geoduck clam, lobster and toro sashimi, whole roasted suckling piglet, Giant divers scallops stuffed with gai lan and foie gras, whole sharksfin with fresh crab meat, Braised Japanese 30 head dried abalone with sea cucumber, Roasted top pigeons, half lobster per person, Steamed live sea bass, fried rice with sea urchins and conpoy, double boiled birds nest with fresh coconut milk... etc.

        Great looking menu but during recession?!!! I question management's wisdom!

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        1. re: Charles Yu

          I forgot that actually Casa Imperial charge the same price $2388 on their most expensive banquet set too ! But the items does not sound that interesting compared to the the menu you listed above. I think about it more, it will cost probably double if the same thing is ordered or requested at Lai Wah Heen ??! But I am not sure if the quality will be at par !
          Exotic items that worths a try, but in this economy, I think I will have to pass now ... too bad.

          1. re: Charles Yu

            At $238 per head, I expect a piglet per diner and at least 2 head abalone.
            But geeze, that's a ridiculous price, recession or not.

            1. re: tksh

              It will take at least 15 years for an abalone to grow to '2 head' size. If the 2 Head is the Dried Japanese 'sugar centered' varietal, auction price in Hong Kong is actually around Can$ 23,800 each!

              Depending on the size of sharksfin and abalone, as well as the type of fresh fish used in the menu. The above captioned price would be the 'ball park' figure one would pay for a banquet menu in Hong Kong's Fook Lam Moon or Forum. In fact, I've known people who had spend HK$20,000 ( Can$3,500 ) per table 25 YEARS AGO to entertain Chinese government officials! Taking inflation into account, guess it'll be around Can $35,000 per table nowadays!! And thats excluding beverages, tax and tips! Ha!!

              1. re: tksh

                Charles is right. Actually, there is no '2 head' size "Dried" Japanese Abalone available nowaday anymore. At Ah Yat Abalone (Forum) of HK, the starting price of one single Japanese "Net" dried abalone, which is a '12' head, is priced at $8000 HKD (which is ~$1400 CAD), and it can get up to thousands of dollars. It is one dish with the portion for one person, and if you want to add a goose web on the side, you have to pay extra for it ! I am not sure if the price has gone down with the bad economy at this moment.

                In toronto like LWH, the abalone is market price, but you will be charged with $$$ even for a small one, but usually it is available in a size no bigger than "20" heads.

                1. re: skylineR33

                  !! I didn't realize the larger abalones are so expensive. Do they actually get cooked or are they like shark fins on display?

                  Back on topic, has anyone else tried this place for dim sum or dinner?

                  1. re: tksh

                    The one mentioned in my post are items in the food menu of restaurant and can be ordered. Yes, they get cooked.

            2. Things I had today include.....

              har gow - skin had the right thickness but not overly chewy, good 口感.
              tripe in ginger & scallion - again cooked perfectly, could use slightly more salt.
              sticky rice in lotus leaf - each grain of rice held its structure
              black bean spare ribs - good texture, definitely softer than the usual overcooked ribs from most places.
              steamed turnip cake w/ chinese sausage - recommended
              steamed rice roll w/ scallops & xo sauce - has a slight kick to it, but doesn't overwhelm the delicate flavour of the scallop. Another recommendation.

              I found the flavours to be very clean, less msg and salt than a run of the mill place. It measures very well against its competitors in the price range (s=$2.80/m=$3.80/l=$4.80 if I recall). We also ordered garlic peashoots ($15.80), so our bill came to $48ish before tip, for two. It was one of the better meals I've had for dim sum in Toronto, I'll be returning even if it does cost more.

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              1. re: aser

                We tried out their dim sum yesterday, was very satified with most of our dishes.

                - jumbo har gow dumpling $4.80, nice and plump/fresh shrimps, beautifully done
                - chicken feet w/ peking sauce $3.80, nothing special, except seeing my 3 yr old son eating it for the first time was shocking

                - king crab meat (soup filled shao long bao) dumpling $6.80, steamed nicely, but not quite enough soup inside

                - pork celery bean curd crepe $3.80, basically a roll of bean curd, nothing special

                - baked eel fish puffs $4.80, I'm a big puff pasty fan, this was one of the better ones. I probably would've preferred it to be a bit sweeter, but that's a personal taste

                - chinese crispy pan cake $3.80, not really a pan cake, more of a dough cake filled with green onion, pork and jelly and topped w/ sesame, it was ok

                - cuttlefish tentacle w/ 5 spice $4.80, the freshest I've had in a long time, while not as well spiced as OMei's

                - egg tarts w/ swallow's nest $4.80, you get 2 small sized ones here, w/ a small amount of nest just thrown on, nothing special

                - tea $1.20 each, very good quality iron buddha

                Final bill was $39.80 plus tax/tip, very nice ambiance and attentive service (but we were there late afternoon and only 4 other tables were there). As others have mentioned, presentation is not as fancy as Empire Court or LWH/LTH, but we will definitely go back to try more dishes. Can't wait to try their dinner sometime too.

                1. re: Royaljelly

                  Happy holiday Royaljelly,
                  Glad you liked it. Hay, we ( skylineR33, yourself and myself ) can try their dinner for our next mini-chowmeet?! Did you check out whether they have a set dinner for 6?

                  1. re: Royaljelly

                    I was there on Christmas day again, try the scallop xo sauce rice roll next time. It has become my favourite for dim sum, the cuttlefish is stellar, one of the best in the city.

                2. Has anyone had a dinner experience at this restaurant yet? Or know about their dinner sets?

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                  1. re: tksh

                    Tried out the dinner recently, it was full house on our night which is a Sunday, very busy. Great service. Lots of swallow nest, abalone, shark fin, seafood varieties and different style of cooking, really interesting menu. Pricing is expensive, but fair with the ingradient they use. Had the shark fin set dinner, with comes with a dish of braised shark fin (1.3 oz) and a choice of a main course from a list of meat/seafood/veggie selections. Casa Imperial has the similar set but cost 20% more but with a higher quality in this comparison. I am looking forward to try their other dish. All in all, food is good overall, we got some good dish and some bad dish, not much to write about, but it got potential to be one of the best chinese restaurant in Toronto !

                    1. re: skylineR33

                      Morning SkylineR33! Thanks for the update! Coming from you, the 'good' dishes must be pretty fine. What are they? Oh! and the bad ones too so that I can avoid the pit fall. Planning to try their dinner soon but first, wanted to give 'Dong Kee Seafood Wok-Hay Stir-Fry' on Midland a try first.

                      1. re: skylineR33

                        yeah, skylineR33 good must be pretty good

                        Mind if I ask what your dinner came to cost per head?

                        1. re: tksh

                          Hi Charles and tksh,

                          The individual dinner set is $30 (exclude tax and tips) per person which is not considered expensive with the ingradient they use and its environment. The beef, chicken, tofu, pork, etc dishes we pick from the dinner set list are nicely done, not something I remember the details but good execution with good balance of taste and sauce used. However, the dish of pork jowl (pork neck meat) looks good when we see it which is nicely arranged, is too hard to chew, so they exchange another dish for us. I am looking forward to try out other dishes in their big menu. However, I noticed another table order the peking duck ($38 for 2 ways), the duck looks overburnt and too dark in colour, but who knows, maybe it tastes good !

                    2. The dim sum at Yang's is definitely one of the best in Richmond Hill.

                      - Har Gow with foie gras (shrimp dumpling) is nicely done, much better than Empire Court and Grand. However, the foie gras does not really go well with the filling. The wrap is considered delicate and not easy to break with ok juicy shrimp filling.

                      - Abalone and Seafood dumpling is good. Soup base is subtle, a clear broth of nice chicken and pork taste with a hint of good flavour of chinese ham. A whole small fresh abalone on the side, with soup taste infused into the body, tender.

                      - Beef Rice Noodle Roll is great. The rice noodle roll is one of the best in Toronto. Very thin and smooth skin. It is not sticky when bite into it like many of the other places such as Grand Chinese Cuisine. Besides aser, I also highly recommend the Rice Noodle rice here.

                      - Japanese Snapper Asparagus Roll is ok, the fish is a bit overcooked, rough and taste is too mild.

                      - Baked Japanese Eel fish Puffs is ok, the puffs can be done more puffy and soft.

                      - Chilled Mango & Tapioca Puddling, nice presentation, can have more mango flavour, but overall is good with a nice taste of fresh grapefruit. kind of like the mango sago dessert.

                      - BBQ Pork Bun is good, intense flavour of sauce, bun and filling both ok.

                      From what I sample, I would say Har Gow, Seafood Dumpling and Rice Noodle Roll are all better than Grand Chinese Cuisine. I found that Grand always put a layer of oil on the dim sum like Har Gow and Rice Noodle Roll. It makes it smoother but it is not the right way to do it. The seafood soup dumpling at Grand just lacks of taste, it is not the subtleness, it has no taste, also, the intestine of the overcooked shrimp is not clean thoroughly.

                       
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                      1. re: skylineR33

                        Items I've tried and remember:

                        - I tried the shrimp dumpling with foie gras as well ($8 for four with fois gras + 1 plain) and thought the combination was pretty interesting, everyone who tried enjoyed the item but we wouldn't order this normally, too pricey

                        - good experiences as well with the siu mai (not exceptional but solid without heavy pork flavour), beef tendons (soft and marinated just right), cuttlefish tentacles (note that it's not the fried batter type), the 'seafood rice roll' and the BBQ pork bun

                        - wouldn't try again: the chiu chow dumpling, the chicken feet (mediocre frankly), mango custard layer cake (we couldn't taste the mango and nor was it really a layer cake), egg tarts with bird's nest, taro dumplings (not enough taro taste) and the chestnut paste banana rolls

                        Tea charge is $1.20 but we got charged even for just plain hot water. As Royaljelly mentioned above, pricing is $2.80, $3.80, $4.80 and $6.80 with most items in the M and L category. Rice, noodle, etc. items on the lunch menu seem to be around the $15 range.

                      2. Thanks for "discovering" this place, Charles! I just got back from a great lunch here and posted about it in another thread:

                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5831...