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  <id>572767</id>
  <title>Madmen party!  need ideas!</title>
  <published_at>Sun Nov 16 15:32:12 -0800 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>30</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>31</id>
    <name>Home Cooking</name>
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        <id>4178361</id>
        <content>We are having a Madmen themed dinner party.  I need ideas of retro entrees that can be modernized.  brainstorm anyone?
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        <published_at>Sun Nov 16 15:32:12 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>61797</id>
          <name>Sue R</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4178431</id>
      <content>This was discussed in an earlier thread:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/434257</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 16 16:07:39 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10926</id>
        <name>mnosyne</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4178436</id>
      <content>Betty threw a dinner party with a theme this past season.  I think it was internationally themed, and featured the beer that was a new account for Sterling Cooper:  bottled Heineken.  Oh, here's mention of it in another thread:  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/567421</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 16 16:09:52 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24126</id>
        <name>amyzan</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4178519</id>
      <content>What IS a madmen themed dinner party? I feel a bit out of the loop.. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 16 16:54:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52629</id>
        <name>gardencub</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4178601</id>
      <content>Mad Men is a brilliant TV show on AMC about the advertising world (Mad-ison Ave.) circa 1960.  Best show on TV and the Emmy to prove it.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 16 17:30:25 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178519</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>154787</id>
        <name>adamshoe</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4181107</id>
      <content>I feel so backwards. I am usually up on these things.. Well I will add it to my must watch list. 

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      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 14:41:37 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178601</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52629</id>
        <name>gardencub</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4179093</id>
      <content>Shrimp cocktail and bloody mary's.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 16 21:59:09 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>240751</id>
        <name>RogerSterling</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4179166</id>
      <content>Besides the dinner party that Betty hosted, they also had an early episode when she came in to the city and had dinner with Don. She started with tomato juice. Then I think she had the sole...with creamed spinacn and potatoes au gratin.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 16 23:33:23 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11375</id>
        <name>perk</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4179171</id>
      <content>Tomato juice appetizer with a squeeze of lemon.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 16 23:41:35 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>222865</id>
        <name>FoodChic</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4179225</id>
      <content>Sterling Cooper accounts: Heineken, Lucky Strikes, and Utz Potato Chips &amp; Snacks.   </content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 01:30:17 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>106260</id>
        <name>trentyzan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4181112</id>
      <content>If  Potato chip company figures in the plot, you HAVE to have chips and dips. I spent hours making a home made onion dip from a recipe I found on epicurious, only to have it taste, exactly, and I mean EXACTLY like the Californial Dip using Lipton's onion soup mix.

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      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 14:42:45 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4179225</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52629</id>
        <name>gardencub</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4179381</id>
      <content>This is great, but we are a hard core cooking group.  (my salad last time took 6 hours to make and assemble)
The theme is Madmen, but all the food will be updated versions.  anyone have an updated version for Chicken Kiev ? Turkey Tetrazini?  (what IS that?)</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 05:24:03 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>61797</id>
        <name>Sue R</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4179431</id>
      <content>How about recreating the espisode where Betty has the dinner with the "menu from around the world"?

The menu includes gazpacho from Spain, rumaki from Japan (it&#8217;s actually Hawai&#8217;ian) and some locally raised leg of lamb with German egg noodles. Guests will be able to wash it all down with a burgundy from France, or&#8230; a Heineken beer from the Netherlands! </content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 05:53:04 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4179381</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>222865</id>
        <name>FoodChic</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4179752</id>
      <content>I don't know how you can update a classic like chicken kiev, unless you want to go wild with the herbs that you mix into the butter you stuff the chicken with.

Turkey Tetrazzini is a turkey noodle casserole. Here is a Tyler Florence recipe for it:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/tyler-florence/turkey-tetrazzini-recipe/index.html</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 07:58:13 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4179381</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80937</id>
        <name>danhole</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4179875</id>
      <content>Goulash. Oh so yummy Hungarian goulash ;) After your tomato juice appetizer of course.

Seriously though, I like the idea of Mad Men accounts (Utz, etc.) but you might want to look at some old 1950's and 60's cookbooks for appetizer recipes as well. You'll be authentic, and some of them are a HOOT! I found one at a flea market called  "Canned Meat Magic!"</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 08:41:08 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>240830</id>
        <name>Feisty Bourbon Girl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4181137</id>
      <content>You might check out James Lileks "The Gallery of Regrettable Food" for disturbing inspiration on entree ideas.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 14:52:15 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>106260</id>
        <name>trentyzan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4181777</id>
      <content>I've only watched Madmen a couple of times. If they are trying to do 60's, the clothes are 50's. 50's food was meatloaf. You could tweek it with red pepper flakes. Also, tuna casserole. I have an updated delish recipe, if you're interested. Swiss steak, very popular then. Make it with wine. Wine was seldom, if ever, used. Liptons onion soup with sour cream dip, rumaki or clam dip. Dessert, maybe a Fosters Freeze kind of thing.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 19:30:14 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13118</id>
        <name>Gail</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4184083</id>
      <content>While some of the characters dress more trendily than others, the costumes are clearly early sixties, not fifties.  Perhaps you formed a quick impression watching only two times?  The show is pretty darned accurate to period, including the food.  Your menu suggestions are on the mark for early sixties, as "international" cuisine was just making its way into the mainstream, as was wine, though more in the larger cities.  Mixed drinks and beer were still much more common, FWIK.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 15:03:23 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4181777</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24126</id>
        <name>amyzan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4184133</id>
      <content>Well, gee amyzan.

&gt;&gt;&gt;the costumes are clearly early sixties, not fifties.&lt;&lt;&lt;

I was actually around then! I was in college and very aware of fashion in the fifties. However, back to the menu....I think you touched on something important, larger cities. I wonder if the food choices then where more regional and we are trying to equate say, east to west. Madmen is, of course, NYC. I was in California during 50s &amp; 60s. Maybe the OP should call on a New Yorker for menu advice.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 15:22:46 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4184083</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13118</id>
        <name>Gail</name>
      </user>
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      <level>4</level>
      <id>4184330</id>
      <content>So, I'm curious, since you were around then (and I wasn't)--Did trends, food and fashion wise, just travel more slowly then?  If you take particular characters, some are more trendy than others, as fits their personalities.  I don't think the fashion changed radically from 1959 to 1960, which is when Mad Men starts in season one.  But, some characters would have looked entirely out of place in 1953 in those clothes.  That's what I'm saying, and the food followed suit.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 16:38:03 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4184133</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24126</id>
        <name>amyzan</name>
      </user>
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      <level>5</level>
      <id>4184370</id>
      <content>Just as today, some were more "trendy" than others. Just as in the 60s, we weren't all hippies. I would be hard-pressed to notice the difference between '59 &amp; '60.

Foodwise, don't you think there might have been a difference between say, LA and NYC during the Mad Men era? Due possibly to ethnic differences.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 16:53:15 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4184330</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13118</id>
        <name>Gail</name>
      </user>
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      <level>6</level>
      <id>4184925</id>
      <content>I'm sure, probably the US in general was less homogenous in foodways back then.  
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      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 20:47:36 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4184370</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24126</id>
        <name>amyzan</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4181818</id>
      <content>My assumption is that you are looking for an entree that would have been served at an elegant dinner party by an upper middleclass hostess like Betty in the early 60s.  So, not meat loaf or the kind of food you'd serve the kids at supper.  What about Beef Wellington?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 17 19:46:21 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>25595</id>
        <name>masha</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4182341</id>
      <content>love the beef wellington idea.  We have a no beef rule, so maybe an individual version with chicken.  Maybe work in some truffles?  anyone have a great creamed spinach recipe?
Thanks for helping!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 04:58:44 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>61797</id>
        <name>Sue R</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4184631</id>
      <content>if you have a no beef rule, You could do chicken a al king, and while I have never watched the show, an uppper middle class hostess from the early sixites in new york would most likely have used a tried and true recipe, nothing too daring, Her dip, or dessert, or appetizers would have been trendy, but it is highly unlikely she would have experimented on her guests.

What about the classic ice berg wedge with green goddess or russian dressing? My folks thought they were the cat's ass when they pulled out that trick, and early 60's was their "time"</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 18:33:00 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4182341</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52629</id>
        <name>gardencub</name>
      </user>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4184693</id>
      <content>Would Boston Cream Pie be a '60's dessert?  If so, I'm searching for a simpler version than that on Food Network.  Please direct me.  Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 18:59:29 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4184631</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>87594</id>
        <name>naturelle</name>
      </user>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4184708</id>
      <content>I like the Creamed Spinach recipe from the Joy of Cooking.  Not only is it easy, the Joy was a cookbook that was around in the 60s.

If no beef, maybe duck a l'orange?  I think of it as a true 1960s dish, although maybe more likely to be found in a restaurant, as opposed to a home dinner party.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 19:08:33 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4182341</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>25595</id>
        <name>masha</name>
      </user>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4184751</id>
      <content>Joy of Cooking was first published in the 30's. But, hey, lots are still using it today....a classic.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 19:28:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4184708</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13118</id>
        <name>Gail</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4184740</id>
      <content>Jane and Michael Stern's book "American Gourmet" gives recipes for some classic dishes of that period.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 18 19:25:00 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4178361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10926</id>
        <name>mnosyne</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4185695</id>
      <content>Bacon wrapped around scallops and/or chicken livers (what was this called?)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 19 07:50:41 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4184740</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>45208</id>
        <name>somervilleoldtimer</name>
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    </post>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4185882</id>
      <content>That is Rumaki! Very good stuff.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 19 08:46:02 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4185695</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80937</id>
        <name>danhole</name>
      </user>
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