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Manual can opener?

BeeZee Nov 14, 2008 04:53 PM

I'm sick of the electric can opener taking up space on the counter when it's used at the most once a week...plus I can't ever clean all of the gross gook off the blade area.
What's your favorite hand-cranked can opener? I know OXO gets good marks for ergonomics, do they have one that works well? What do you use?

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  1. Quine RE: BeeZee Nov 14, 2008 05:18 PM

    I am a SOLID Swing a way fan for over 50 years.

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      c oliver RE: Quine Nov 19, 2008 12:16 PM

      Me too. Have never had to replace. Periodically throw it in the dishwasher for cleaning. Indestructible.

    2. RShea78 RE: BeeZee Nov 14, 2008 10:08 PM

      Hand cranked or thumb cranked? There is a huge difference, if you catch what I am driving at. See link below. I am also partial to their, still available, wall mount, hand cranked, can opener.

      (BTW Swing-A-Way is a division of Focus Products Group, and Swing-A-Way does make can openers, for other companies for them to rebrand.)

      http://www.centralrestaurant.com/Easy...

      1. coll RE: BeeZee Nov 15, 2008 12:59 AM

        Swing a way. And use a toothbrush to clean up the gook.

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          masha RE: BeeZee Nov 15, 2008 08:25 AM

          Oxo works fine. Been using ours for years.

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            valerie RE: BeeZee Nov 15, 2008 03:49 PM

            Another Oxo fan...I have been using this Oxo one for years....simple and good.

            http://www.oxo.com/OA_HTML/xxoxo_ibeC...

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              sebetti RE: valerie Nov 21, 2008 03:37 PM

              I own that too - best can opener I've ever had.

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              Jennifer_B RE: BeeZee Nov 15, 2008 06:04 PM

              I use a Kuhn-Rikon lid lifter. Oxo makes one, too. They take the lid off without leaving sharp edges, dropping the lid into the can or getting gook on the blade.

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                BeeZee RE: Jennifer_B Nov 17, 2008 05:01 AM

                Thanks for the suggestions...I had one of those openers that uncrimped the lid many years ago, I may go back down that road. I want a small unit that will happily reside in the "gadget" drawer along with the microplane.

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                  coll RE: BeeZee Nov 17, 2008 11:12 AM

                  The only problem with the lid removers is you can't squish out the juice from the can very easily. I have both, I need the old fashioned one especially for tuna fish.

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                    josephnl RE: coll Nov 19, 2008 01:19 PM

                    After cutting my hand badly with a sharp lid from my old Swing-a Way, I bought a Kuhn-Rikon lid lifter. I love it! It works like a charm, and leaves no sharp edges whatsoever. True, you can't squish out the juice from a can easily, but this disadvantage is to me far outweighed by the safety factor...and the lid fits back on the can so well that you can store unused food with the lid back on! The lid fits so perfectly, that I put an x on the lid with a marker to remind me that the can has been opened!

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                  GilbyEast RE: Jennifer_B Dec 4, 2008 05:20 AM

                  I use one like this for most tasks, but for some reason I can't get a can of Goya beans open with the darn thing. So I keep my Swing-A-Way handy too.

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                    RShea78 RE: GilbyEast Dec 4, 2008 08:31 AM

                    I believe you have some foreign packed can. (non-standard to USA specs.) On the same token, manufactured can materials have different tolerances, incompatible with the ultra-precision (aka...ultra-picky) chime cutters. Old trusty, SAW to the rescue! :-)

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                  adamshoe RE: BeeZee Nov 15, 2008 07:08 PM

                  Count me in the Swing-A-Way camp....they also used to make a wall mounted version that would swing out of the way when not in use. Hence, the name.... Adam

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                    RShea78 RE: adamshoe Nov 16, 2008 05:20 AM

                    FYI---

                    Swing-A-Way still makes the wall mounted can opener. (Model 609W) The W denotes it has a White body.

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                      Feed_me RE: RShea78 Nov 17, 2008 12:08 AM

                      If I may humbly submit, I like the Chefmate brand manual can opener I bought about a year ago at Target. I was actually going to buy a Swing-a-way, but they didn't have it at the store. I like the Chefmate much better. For one, the ergonomics seem much better. Two wide handles that close down one over the other and the large thumb/index finger driven paddle that moves the wheel that makes taking off the lid just below where it's crimped together. Cuts cleanly and doesn't get that gook that gets on the Swing-a-way's cutting wheel. The lid comes off clean as a whistle. Even my sister who questions my cooking judgement was impressed when she used it. About $10 as I recall. Made in Taiwan it says on it fyi.

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                        RShea78 RE: Feed_me Nov 17, 2008 01:09 AM

                        You and a few others seem to like them "chime cutting" can openers. Ones I have had never lasted any reasonable length of time or simply was too awkward to deal with. I got a plastic shoe box with at least 20 different chime cutters. The only reason for me keeping them, is to be constantly reminded that- "I got junk".

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                    MEH RE: BeeZee Nov 17, 2008 04:45 PM

                    I like the Oxo Smooth Edge Can Opener.

                    But, whatever you decide to get, I really think that the manual openers with the 'smooth edge' or 'safe cut' feature are a good idea. These openers cut the can below the edge so that there are no sharp edges and the top of the can doesn't fall into the can.

                    Good luck!

                    Mary
                    www.BestinKitchen.com

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                      RGC1982 RE: BeeZee Nov 19, 2008 02:24 PM

                      You have cited all the reasons I have refused to own an electric can opener for 30 years. I think it is the gook that really turns me off. I saw too much of this at my mother's house.

                      Oxo and Kitchen Aid make very good manual openers. You will be happy with either one. Just remember that a manual can opener needs to be large in order to be easy to use. If you have the misfortune of being left handed, as my daughter is, they actually make models for you too. Just look online.

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                        RShea78 RE: RGC1982 Nov 19, 2008 02:47 PM

                        ""You have cited all the reasons I have refused to own an electric can opener for 30 years. I think it is the gook that really turns me off. I saw too much of this at my mother's house.""

                        Hey, does your family or you use a toothbrush? My can openers get their teeth brushed as we do eat some of the same food. Nothing is as bad as a kernel corn meshing through their teeth so give them some respect.

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                          josephnl RE: RShea78 Nov 19, 2008 07:56 PM

                          But...if you use one of the newer lid lifters such as OXO or Kuhn-Rikon (my favorite), the opener never touches the food and thus remains sanitary and needs no "brushing".

                          The Swing-a-Way was great in its day, but is now obsolete.

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                            RShea78 RE: josephnl Nov 20, 2008 12:13 AM

                            Lid lifter? Don't you mean "chime cutter"? The honest to goodness lid lifter I have is used to open up canning jars.

                            Like I said above, I got a box of 20 of those worthless chime cutters.

                            I looked over the Kuhn Rikon website and see what you may be describing, but they call theirs "Auto Safety LidLifter". I do not think I will blow $16 + S/H, even though the Swiss seldom makes junk.

                            The problem is with the cans in the way they are sealed. Most of these chime cutters manufacturers do mention that lids may contain glues, which will cause problems. They go into detail that it may be necessary to overlap the cut and then turn the knob backwards. At this point the can lid should be cut free, but it doesn't work.

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                              yuanzhoulv RE: RShea78 Dec 2, 2008 03:41 PM

                              I have that Kuhn Rikon opener. It's totally worth the $. Not for the lid lifter (you can lift the lid by hand too) but because it cuts the can on the side so the lid won't fall in the can, and can be easily placed back on the can later. Never had a can that didn't open with it, actually.

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                              Miss Priss RE: josephnl Nov 20, 2008 03:55 AM

                              Sorry, but with all due respect for your preferences and for the fine products of OXO and Kuhn-Rikon, I must take issue with your claim that the Swing-A-Way is "obsolete"! My dictionary defines that term as meaning "no longer in general use" or "of a discarded or outmoded type." Swing-A-Ways are clearly in general use today, as witness (among other things) the number of Chowhounds who enthusiastically recommend them. Furthermore, I have yet to encounter an upscale kitchenware store that does NOT sell them. And can openers similar to Swing-A-Way--though of inferior quality--are widely available at every price point, indicating that this is hardly a "discarded or outmoded" technology.

                              Needless to say, I'm very happy with my Swing-A-Way, which has served me well for over 20 years.

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                                RShea78 RE: Miss Priss Nov 20, 2008 05:27 AM

                                ""Needless to say, I'm very happy with my Swing-A-Way, which has served me well for over 20 years.""

                                Chalk me up for an impressed 40 years-Plus owner. I also consider my Swing-A-Way can openers to be true and reliable. There is no local household, that I am aware of, that doesn't have several Swing-A-Way(s). My only second choice is the military P-38.

                                I can sit back and can find several faults with those ridiculously - over priced "CHIME CUTTERS". They are awkward, unreliable, uncomfortable, and a big yes- they can contaminate food with fine metal shavings and seal glues.

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                                  coney with everything RE: RShea78 Nov 20, 2008 05:31 AM

                                  OK, I'll bite--why do you call them "chime cutters"?

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                                    RShea78 RE: coney with everything Nov 20, 2008 05:57 AM

                                    In the pre-seal stage of a can the top lid (when applicable, the bottom lid) will have extra material to extend outward, and slightly downward. This outer bell shaped area of the lid seal is called the chime, that gets crimped to finish, forming the can seal.

                                    Or as a ASCII art;

                                    (-----can lid-----) <---the chime--<

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                                      coney with everything RE: RShea78 Nov 26, 2008 10:29 AM

                                      thanks! dinner AND a show!

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                                  josephnl RE: Miss Priss Nov 20, 2008 11:20 AM

                                  I am not a linguist, and will gladly agree that my usage of the work "obsolete" was likely improper. My point however is that there are now (at least in my opinion) far better products than the old Swing-A-Way which I too loved in its day. The major advantages of a product such as the Kuhn Rikon lid lifter are:

                                  1) The lid is literally lifted off, therefore there are no sharp edges produced, making this is a safer product than the S-A-W.
                                  2) The opener never touches any of the can's contents, therefore it remains clean. This is a clear advantage from both cleaning and hygiene perspectives.
                                  3) The lid is removed so perfectly, that it can be used to temporarily reseal the can for storage.

                                  Yes, the Kuhn-Rikon is not cheap (it's about 20 bucks), but it is well designed and very well made, and should last many years

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                                    Jennifer_B RE: josephnl Nov 20, 2008 11:33 AM

                                    I see the Kuhn-Rikons at TJ Maxx for less than ten dollars all the time.

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                                      josephnl RE: Jennifer_B Nov 20, 2008 11:58 AM

                                      If it's the K-R Safety Lid Lifter, it's really a great deal!

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                                      Miss Priss RE: josephnl Nov 20, 2008 07:51 PM

                                      Well, I can't and won't argue over your love for your Kuhn Rikon. Maybe I'll even try one some day, if I'm as lucky as Jennifer_B and find one for under $10 at TJ Maxx. But in all honesty, I've never felt the need for a change

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                                  RGC1982 RE: RShea78 Nov 20, 2008 05:32 AM

                                  It is far easier to put a manual can opener in the dishwasher than to brush the teeth on an electric model. Sorry, but I don't find that the "convenience" of electric can openers is worth it. Maybe it's because I don't open all that many cans. Or maybe I will change my mind when I get old and have arthritis. Until then, I vote for manual. But your response did make me smile.

                              2. paulj RE: BeeZee Nov 20, 2008 04:50 PM

                                Get a p38 opener for a dollar at a army surplus store!

                                http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/pag...

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                                  al b. darned RE: paulj Nov 22, 2008 01:21 PM

                                  aka a "John Wayne." I've had one on my key chain for years! Even had my keys confiscated when I went into the courthouse because of it.

                                2. RShea78 RE: BeeZee Nov 21, 2008 03:51 PM

                                  Anyone have the one below?

                                  http://www.thekitchenstore.com/orsacu...

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                                    josephnl RE: RShea78 Nov 21, 2008 07:43 PM

                                    No, I don't have it, but it looks quite similar to the newer OXO safety lid lifter which cuts on the side, much like the Kuhn-Rikon that I have been touting. These newer openers have the advantage of safety (no sharp edges) and are cleaner in that the cutting mechanism doesn't touch the food...at least in the K-R which I like, or in the newer OXO which works similarly.

                                  2. al b. darned RE: BeeZee Nov 22, 2008 01:24 PM

                                    Add my vote for a Swing Away. I've had one for years and my Mom has had the same one in her kitchen for over 50. I got talked into a Henkles a few years after CR ( I think) rated it #1. It lasted about a year before it got dull. Bought another Swing Away and have never looked back.

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                                      silvergirl RE: BeeZee Nov 25, 2008 08:37 AM

                                      If you happen to have a kitchenaid stand mixer, there's a canopener attachment for that. My mixer's always on the countertop anyway.

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                                        RShea78 RE: silvergirl Nov 25, 2008 03:29 PM

                                        True, if one has that kind of money to burn. ~$35 - $50 +S&H.

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                                          silvergirl RE: RShea78 Nov 26, 2008 07:15 AM

                                          I received it as a Christmas gift last year. Sorry, I had no idea it cost that much.

                                      2. Veggo RE: BeeZee Nov 25, 2008 04:01 PM

                                        I'll put either of my $4 Swing-A-Way's up against your fanciest electric can opener, especially during a power outage.

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                                          josephnl RE: Veggo Nov 25, 2008 07:00 PM

                                          I hope you never cut yourself as I have done with a sharp lid...if you do, you'll understand why I so highly tout the Kuhn Rikon lid lifter!

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                                            Veggo RE: josephnl Nov 26, 2008 10:10 AM

                                            I treat those sharp, semi-serrated lids with all the respect of a whirling Skilsaw blade. I often use forks or spoons to pry up an edge, and then use pliers. Sometimes, I let them just sink to the bottom. I try to keep most of my "sangre" inside of me, although I failed miserably in a motorcycle wreck a year ago in Cozumel.

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                                              RShea78 RE: josephnl Nov 26, 2008 07:31 PM

                                              josephnl-

                                              Have you ever heard of "Magnetic push pins"? Unfortunately, the description is off a bit, as they use a magnet instead of pin.

                                              There is no kitchen that should be without those, even for the fridge to hold up notes.

                                              Back to the real subject- I use those around my cans as a lid lifter when I use my SAW.

                                              I already know a chime cutter will eventually become a PITA. They all use the same mechanics, that wears out IMHO all too fast for my needs. All mine worked reasonably well, for about the first 100 cans. Then I found the chime cutter required additional overlaps. Then degrade to 2 laps around the can. Then let's play the game of "can lid difficulty"...

                                              I am back to my old SAW in less than 2 months.

                                          2. scubadoo97 RE: BeeZee Nov 26, 2008 04:55 AM

                                            Put me in the camp of those that refuse to buy an electric can opener. I grew up with one and have owned a few but haven't used an electric in over 15 yrs.

                                            I use an OXO and it does a fine job. I don't open a lot of cans but it's just not that hard to use a manual.

                                            1. The Professor RE: BeeZee Nov 26, 2008 07:39 PM

                                              Swing A Way.
                                              Nothing comes close...it's still the best.

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                                                yuanzhoulv RE: BeeZee Dec 2, 2008 03:31 PM

                                                I like the Kuhn Rikon can openers. They are fabulous. They open the can in a way (by cutting on the *side* not the top) such that the lid doesn't fall in, and because they cut on the side, you can put the lid back on top of the can without it falling in... oh and also they cut it in a way so the can lid won't cut you too easily, too. A tad more pricey, but well worth the $ in my opinion.

                                                When you use one you need to put the can opener flat, parallel to the floor, and lock it on top of the can (unlike standard can openers which are perpendicular to the floor). It'll go around the can like butter, after which you will think it didn't cut the can at all, but it really did :)

                                                http://www.amazon.com/Kuhn-Rikon-Safe...

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                                                  josephnl RE: yuanzhoulv Dec 2, 2008 03:42 PM

                                                  Agree completely. The K-R is the best for safety, cleanliness and convenience!

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                                                    RShea78 RE: yuanzhoulv Dec 3, 2008 09:17 PM

                                                    ""They open the can in a way (by cutting on the *side* not the top) such that the lid doesn't fall in, and because they cut on the side, you can put the lid back on top of the can without it falling in...""

                                                    They actually cut midway into the "outer edge" or "chime" of the "top", not into the side of the can. The same top chime gets used in traditional can openers to rotate the can with a serrated wheel. "Safety" comes into play because a blunt sliver of the top section remains intact along with the thin-sharp cylinder section of the can.

                                                    Maybe a quickly drawn picture can help? (Click on it to expand)

                                                     
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                                                    armagnac RE: BeeZee Jan 28, 2010 03:26 AM

                                                    Just came across this thread - it's over a year old, but the topic isn't dated.

                                                    I'm sold on openers that work from the side instead of cutting through the top of the can. Not only is the result neater and safer - no jagged edges, the opener separates the top from the can without needing to cut metal - but in a pinch, you can reclose the can by pushing the lid back into place.

                                                    America's Test Kitchen top-rated the Rösle can opener and I bought one, for $37 if you would believe it. Didn't like how it worked. So I picked up the Zyliss Safe Edge Can Opener, I forget where, maybe at Gracious Home, but Amazon offers it - for $15. Fits the hand nicely, using it is simple and intuitive, and it works! Hasn't failed me yet.

                                                    http://www.amazon.com/Zyliss-Safe-Edg...

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                                                      fridaybaker RE: armagnac Apr 19, 2010 02:40 PM

                                                      I know I'm late to the races here, but unfortunately, I need a can opener now, and not 2 years ago when everyone was talking about it! Well, if anyone has the time, here is my question: I've used several manual can openers, don't know which brands, but cheap to be sure. Every one of them leaves a small jagged point in the rim of the can after it's opened.

                                                      However, I just visited my MIL, who has one that is about 15 years old. Again, I don't know which brand, but I am beginning to suspect it is a Swing-Away. Here is why: It was so easy to use, the movement being much easier than mine, which requires quite a fight, and: THIS IS THE FIRST MANUAL CAN OPENER THAT I'VE EVER USED THAT DIDN'T LEAVE THAT JAGGED EDGE (OR POINT) INSIDE THE RIM OF THE CAN.

                                                      Perhaps this has been covered in the discussion here, but if so, I didn't see it and do apologize. If anyone can shed some light on this, though, I'd be very grateful. Does the old Swing-Away indeed leave the inside completely smooth? Thanks in advance, Fridaybaker

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                                                        coney with everything RE: fridaybaker Apr 21, 2010 06:08 AM

                                                        This is the Swingaway I have, it really is the best can opener ever as far as ease of use

                                                        http://www.google.com/products/catalo...

                                                        I can't say as I've noticed whether the inside of the can is smooth or not, as I usually leave the lid partially attached.

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                                                          josephnl RE: fridaybaker Apr 26, 2010 08:45 PM

                                                          The only can openers which are completely safe (do not leave any sharp edges on the can or removed lid) are the side cutting lid lifters such as those made by Kuhn Rikon. See my posts above to see why I prefer these openers to the old standby's such as Swing-A-Way.

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                                                            poptart RE: josephnl Nov 3, 2010 09:01 PM

                                                            I have a Kuhn Rikon, liked it very much except after a year or so it stopped cutting the cans and now only will partially open them. Am I expecting too much for these to last a few years, like the ones I had in the past (ie swing- away) or is there something I should be doing to "sharpen" it?

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                                                              paulj RE: poptart Nov 3, 2010 09:22 PM

                                                              This KR does not really cut the can, but rather breaks the seal joining lid to can. I find that some times it does open a can, or requires a couple of circuits. I think those cans have a different seal geometry.

                                                              A swing-away cuts the lid, and does not depend as much of details of how the can is manufactured. The KR uses finesse, swing-away brute force.

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                                                                josephnl RE: poptart Nov 3, 2010 09:40 PM

                                                                I have had mine (the Kuhn-Rikon) for several years, and it still works fine. Sometimes you do have to "go around" the lid a few times for it to completely separate the lid from the can. I'd bet that if your opener is not working properly and you returned it to where you bought it (assuming it's a reputable place such as W/S, B,B & B or Sur LT), they'd replace it without question. I still maintain that lid lifters such as the Kuhn-Rikon or the similar Oxo are the way to go. Although the Swing-a-way is obviously a workhorse that will rarely if ever fail, the lid lifters are much safer, and also more sanitary (they don't touch the food)!

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                                                                  poptart RE: josephnl Nov 4, 2010 08:50 PM

                                                                  Thanks to you both. Yes, I end up going around the cans many times these days. In the beginning it was pretty good, getting the can top in one or 2 passes. Now it's 5, 6, 7...and I am still prying it.
                                                                  Unfortunately I bought while out of town, but your reviews have me encouraged to buy a replacement at a local shop.

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                                                                    josephnl RE: poptart Nov 4, 2010 09:05 PM

                                                                    Do buy your replacement at one of the major stores I mentioned above. I think it's unlikely to fail again, but if so, these stores all have excellent customer service. Have you tried contacting Kuhn-Rikon...perhaps they would do something?

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                                                                      poptart RE: josephnl Nov 5, 2010 09:41 PM

                                                                      I haven't tried contacting them, but it's a good idea. Bought a new one tonight that has a slightly different design (still Kuhn-Rikon) so I am hoping it's an improved redesign and look forward to trying it out.

                                                        2. westsidegal RE: BeeZee Apr 20, 2010 01:54 AM

                                                          i like the zyliss brand.
                                                          they make two differnt types.:
                                                          once kind cuts the metal arount the top of the can (my favorite)
                                                          the other type cuts the metal around the side of the can (i used this type for my dogs food)
                                                          from now on i'm intending to buy zyliss brand kitchen utensils only

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                                                            taos RE: BeeZee Apr 29, 2010 07:34 PM

                                                            OXO stuff can be hit or miss but I've had good luck with this can opener:

                                                            http://www.surlatable.com/product/id/...

                                                            I don't see any reason to have an electric can opener unless you are opening dozens of cans a day or have some kind of disability like arthritis that prevents you from using a manual opener.

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                                                              SanityRemoved RE: taos May 18, 2010 07:20 PM

                                                              Swing-A-Way is now made in China and the quality has diminished. I was able to do a comparison of the made in the USA and the new made in China version same model at a local store. I bought the last one they had and would have bought more as I don't think the Chinese version is going to last like fans of Swing-A-Way have grown so accustomed to.

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                                                                coll RE: SanityRemoved May 19, 2010 01:47 AM

                                                                I am so glad I got most of my basic kitchen equipment back in the '70s, when I got married. Everything today seems to be manufactured to be disposable. Sometimes I wish I could trade everything in for more modern looking appliances, but I think I would be sorry in the long run.

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                                                                  greenraf RE: SanityRemoved Apr 2, 2011 04:32 PM

                                                                  I've also suffered from the poor quality of the new Chinese-made S-A-W's .... gone through two of them in the last 4-5 years. The teeth that grip and turn the can is MUCH softer than the old openers, its really sad. The only reason I found this thread is because I'm not going to get fooled a third time. The new S-A-W openers look like the old, but they are far removed from the "buy one and pass is to your grandkids" models that we grew up with

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                                                                    josephnl RE: greenraf Apr 2, 2011 11:22 PM

                                                                    Having nearly sliced my thumb off years ago with a can lid that was carelessly thrown in the trash, I am now the happy owner of a Kuhn-Rikon lid lifter. These newer openers made by K-R, OXO, and others lift the lid off the can. Three advantages: 1) much safer...no sharp edges, 2) the lid can be replaced on the can to temporarily close it for storage in the frig, and 3) since no part of the opener ever touches the can contents, the opener never needs washing...it stays clean. I love my Kuhn-Rikon!

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                                                                SouthFLmom RE: BeeZee Jun 14, 2010 06:56 PM

                                                                I just got the Kuhn-Rikon at HomeGoods/TJ Maxx for ten dollars.

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                                                                  SouthFLmom RE: SouthFLmom Apr 4, 2011 06:58 AM

                                                                  Happy to report that we are all still thrilled with the Kuhn-Rikon ten months later. It is fantastic!

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                                                                  NotJuliaChild RE: BeeZee Nov 6, 2010 07:32 PM

                                                                  I highly recommend Fissler.

                                                                  http://www.amazon.com/Fissler-020-081...

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                                                                    bewley RE: NotJuliaChild Nov 8, 2010 07:37 AM

                                                                    Yes, I would second the Fissler. Even use it on #10 cans.

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                                                                      josephnl RE: NotJuliaChild Nov 9, 2010 02:39 PM

                                                                      Have never heard of this brand, but it gets terrific reviews on Amazon. I'm assuming it lifts the lid rather than cutting it like the Swing-a-Way...and thus is much safer and without sharp edges....right?

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                                                                        bewley RE: josephnl Nov 16, 2010 05:58 AM

                                                                        Yes, that's correct. After the initial turn, you lightly bend the opener to the right and it carries the lid off. Thus, the lid will never touch the ingredient inside. I always wash my can tops before opening, as I hate when they touch the food. Also, it leaves no burs. I bought this after I opened a can of olives and pricked my index finger dead on the tip.

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                                                                      ZeroSignal RE: BeeZee Nov 8, 2010 01:10 PM

                                                                      I agree the Swing a way used to be a good can opener until Focus bought out Swing a way and moved operations to China. So I now like the Zyliss can openers. Pretty smooth operation plus it locks on the can for draining.

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                                                                        somervilleoldtimer RE: BeeZee Nov 16, 2010 06:10 AM

                                                                        I have an OXO-style hand opener that's shaped like a toucan's head, i.e. the "beak" is the handle that you squeeze shut over the edge of the can, and the crank is the eye. Anyway, it's very cute, works well, is easy on my hands, and takes up a lot of room in the drawer.

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                                                                          The Drama Queen RE: somervilleoldtimer Apr 3, 2011 11:07 AM

                                                                          I got tired of my electric can opener after about 2 months of hauling it out of the cupboard, plugging it in, cutting the can, then unplug, etc. Who needs that? I love the OXO manual one I got from Bed Bath and Beyond. Very smooth, easy to turn even for arthiritic hands and quick.

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                                                                          audreyhtx1 RE: BeeZee Apr 3, 2011 05:58 PM

                                                                          I have a black OXO manual can opener and it works great. Has for years. I used it when we lived in an RV for several years. When I got a house again I didn't bother to buy an electric one - stuck with the OXO manual.

                                                                          1. schmidl RE: BeeZee Apr 8, 2011 09:33 AM

                                                                            Oxo and Swing-a-way are good and reasonably priced.
                                                                            Go to a store and see how things feel in your hands.
                                                                            What one person finds comfortable my not work for you.

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                                                                              pine time RE: BeeZee Apr 8, 2011 01:49 PM

                                                                              Plain old Oxo Good Grips. Plus, bought it for the emergency backpack for the car, too.

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                                                                                RudysEquipment_Supplies RE: pine time Apr 9, 2011 01:50 PM

                                                                                As posted above Swing-a-way is not the same can opener it was a year or so ago.Made in China now.You can see the difference in the two when looking side by side. I cant comment on oxo, but I like the Zyliss can opener and the Victorinox (swissmade) can opener.

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                                                                                george_dyke RE: BeeZee Dec 13, 2012 10:47 AM

                                                                                I'm looking at these posts going back four years now, and I'm concluding this: The problem is that these manual can openers today-- the Swingaways and Oxos, etc.-- are simply not as good products as they used to be. They're made in China, plastic parts instead of steel, blades that get dull faster, etc. The result is that openers that used to last decades now wear out in a year or so-- and you can't get replacement blades for them! So you have to throw them out and get a new one. I don't see a solution to this. Are there ANY manual can openers that are made 'the old-fashioned way'?

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                                                                                  GH1618 RE: george_dyke Dec 13, 2012 11:21 AM

                                                                                  Maybe this one:

                                                                                  http://www.sears.com/john-j-steuby-co...

                                                                                  (Swing-a-way type)

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                                                                                    josephnl RE: george_dyke Dec 13, 2012 02:56 PM

                                                                                    As I've said previously on this thread and others, there are currently far better products on the market than the old Swingaways which were great in their day. True, the newer products are likely made in China, and may have plastic parts. Nevertheless, the better quality 'lid lifters' such as those made by Kuhn-Rikon and Oxo will likely last several years. I've had a K-R for at least 5 years, and although I do not open that many cans, I expect that it will last many more years. I see no advantage in the Swingaway type of opener which cuts a disk off the top of a can, and I can think of 3 big advantages for the 'lid lifter' type of opener.

                                                                                    1) The lid is literally lifted off, therefore there are no sharp edges produced, making this is a safer product than the Swingaway type.
                                                                                    2) The opener never touches any of the can's contents, therefore it remains clean. This is a clear advantage from both cleaning and hygiene perspectives.
                                                                                    3) The lid is removed so perfectly, that it can be used to temporarily reseal the can for storage.

                                                                                    I would definitely recommend that you get a Kuhn-Rikon opener. You'll be happy!

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                                                                                      GH1618 RE: josephnl Dec 13, 2012 03:20 PM

                                                                                      I have a new lid-lifter type. It's neat when it works, but I have encountered several situations in which it doesn't. These include can bottoms, commercial-size cans, and European cans. The basic problem is that the tolerance is tighter for this type of opener. I keep my old Swing-a-Way as a backup, which still works after more than 40 years. I also keep an old manual pry-type (no moving parts) as my final backup — I rarely need it, but I did once recently.

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                                                                                        josephnl RE: GH1618 Dec 13, 2012 04:06 PM

                                                                                        I don't open that many cans, but I can't remember a single miss with my Kuhn-Rikon, including several European cans (primarily from Spain and Italy). Your point though is well-taken. Having cut myself rather badly one time on a sharp lid, I'm generally sold on the lid-lifters for routine use.

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                                                                                          GH1618 RE: GH1618 Mar 9, 2013 04:31 PM

                                                                                          Update: I finally threw out my Pyrex opener (which breaks the seal from the side instead of cutting the lid) in disgust, when it failed to open an ordinary US-made can. I replaced it with the EZ-DUZ-IT, which is a Swing-a-Way type, made in the old Swing-a-Way factory in St. Louis:

                                                                                          http://madeinusaforever.com/canopezma...

                                                                                          My 1969 Swing-a-Way still works, but the cutter is worn to the point that it's a bit balky at times. The new one is very similar — the differences are:

                                                                                          The handles are a little shorter and have more comfortable grips.

                                                                                          1. The bottle opener is not on the new one (ok by me).

                                                                                          2. The 1969 model has a nicer crank handle, with rounded ends and slight depressions where the fingers go. The new one is a simplified shape. It was actually Swing-a-Way that changed the handle, if I remember right.

                                                                                          3. The new one is chrome plated, thus shinier. This does nothing for me, but maybe it will be easier to keep clean.

                                                                                          4. The year of manufacture is not stamped on the new one.

                                                                                          The EZ-DUZ-IT seems to be equivalent to the original in all important respects, so it should last about as long. I'll report back in 2057 for a comparison, if this website is still operating and if I'm still alive (I'll be 109).

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                                                                                          ellabee RE: josephnl Dec 16, 2012 10:20 AM

                                                                                          Last year I was given a 'lid lifter' type of opener. I can't seem to warm up to it.

                                                                                          Storing food in opened cans has no appeal for me. The safety aspect of the lid lifter ought to be a real advantage, given that we process for recycling shortly after use, removing top and bottom and flattening the can with the lids inside. But somehow it isn't.

                                                                                          I'm just too used to the motions and so work faster with the faithful Swingaway (20 years and counting). There's a satisfaction in having a tool that does its one job well with only hand power, handles any can, cleans easily, and keeps on working indefinitely.

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                                                                                            josephnl RE: ellabee Dec 16, 2012 11:02 AM

                                                                                            There is a bit of a learning curve with the lid lifters, but the safety issue makes it worth it!

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                                                                                        kseiverd RE: BeeZee Mar 9, 2013 05:06 PM

                                                                                        For an absolutelt NO FAIL can opener, ya need to get P-38! Little metal gizmo that;s been around since WWII. A little labor intensive on a BIG can of cog=ffee, but will ALWAYS open can. Think it's a screw f=driver and bottle opener, as well??

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                                                                                          josephnl RE: kseiverd Mar 9, 2013 08:03 PM

                                                                                          There is no question but that the P38 and the Swing-a-Way's are the most efficient can openers on the planet. Nevertheless, after having severely cut my thumb on the sharp edge of a can opened with a S-a-W, this opener no longer has a place in my kitchen. Yes, there is a bit of a learning curve with the "lid lifters", and there are also a few cans which are a bit more challenging to open, the Kuhn-Rikon lid lifter is the only can opener presently in my kitchen. I don't open that many cans, but I've not had a single can that I couldn't open with the K-R. And..there are no sharp edges to worry about.

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