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A replacement for Apache Burgers...

bluesbreaker1969 Nov 14, 2008 04:30 AM

An old favourite, more sentimental now than anything...went round the other day and its not the same. Crumbly bun, still flavourful patty, but the attitude there SUCKS AND the dude fixing the burger was using his hands. Not gloved, either. And then went round cleaning the tables. I didn't dress my burger and I don't know if he washed up after cleaning the tables.

How about Red Cabin?

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    SocksManly RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 14, 2008 04:41 AM

    I'm afraid it's too close in location to California Sandwiches for me to ever want a burger around there hehe.


    Oh and the bakery in cloverdale mall is good. Park at the LCBO and walk straight in, you'll find it by smell.

    Sorry I don't know more about your question, deal with it! :)

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      philly cheeze RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 14, 2008 12:11 PM

      red Cabin is pretty much the same as apache

      1. duckdown RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 14, 2008 12:41 PM

        I like The Burger Shack on Eglinton

        open really late, and their home-made burger cooked medium is very nice... they encourage medium BTW

        1. Brain of J RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 14, 2008 01:37 PM

          Not terribly from the Apache is C & Dubbs----home of the biggest, juiciest burgers in the GTA, maybe all of Ontario. It's a nice clean place with a couple of big screen TVs. It's an ideal place to eat some good food and watch some of the game. It's open super late too on the weekends, like 4AM or something. For me, it's sets the standard for burger joints.

          C & Dubbs in located on Dundas Street, between the 427 and Dixie, south side of the street.

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            duckdown RE: Brain of J Nov 14, 2008 06:11 PM

            I have been here once or twice in the past but seem to remember the burgers being frozen -- what do you reccomend here and I will go give it another shot

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              Brain of J RE: duckdown Nov 17, 2008 02:42 PM

              Don't bother with their standard burger, which I do believe is a frozen prefab job, but order their home burger or their sumo burger (two home burgers equaling 1 lb, or do the super sumo equalling 3 half pound home burgers). These patties are more of the real deal (they don't appear frozen when put on the grill). Excellent fries too. Their fish and chips look darn good too.

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            plavka RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 14, 2008 08:54 PM

            I think Magoos on Dundas and Royal York is better

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              pancake RE: plavka Nov 14, 2008 10:18 PM

              Yes, I second magoos if you are in Etobicoke. Way better then apache, plus the fries are delicious. I've also had a decent burger at Magic Spot (royal york and bloor), but find it less consistent.
              I has a really great burger at Craft Burger on King street tonight, just West of Spadina, if you are willing to travel further.

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                bluesbreaker1969 RE: pancake Nov 18, 2008 04:18 AM

                That's great thanks for the recommendations. I was just a little p-ed off given the weak attitude and shocked at the guy using his hands. It would one thing if all he did was dress burgers and didn't touch anything...but he was.

                And that's filthy. So I'm done.

                Thanks again all - I'm going to try this C & Dubbs for the burger fix.

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                  bobbieMac RE: pancake Nov 18, 2008 04:25 PM

                  Magoo's is way better than apache.

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                    mercurkg RE: bobbieMac Nov 19, 2008 09:52 AM

                    I have been going to Apache since I was a kid, and although everyone tells me the quality has gone down, I guess I'm easy to please because it still tastes good to me. I've also got my SO who is not from Toronto hooked. He craves Apache. And I love the onion rings there.

                    I used to also frequent Magoo's when I was younger and remember liking it...although not as much as Apache. However I went a couple weeks ago with the SO and we were extremely excited as many say it is better then Apache but we were both really dissapointed. The flavour was not there in the burger, and mine was kinda dry and just ...meh. My onion rings were pretty average, and I was so dissapointed they changed the spicy fries from years back...they used to be curly. Now they are normal fries with spicy seasoning. I'm all about the curly.

                    I did enjoy the toppings however (bruschetta? yum!), and feel I need to try ONE more time.

                    Red Cabin is next on the list.

              2. duckdown RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 19, 2008 11:27 AM

                I tried Magoo's just last week and found it extremely mediocre

                They call themselves a "Gourmet ice-cream and hamburger" shoppe, so I order a $4.95 milkshake before realizing that every single flavor of ice cream is simple Nestle brand straight out of a supermarket tub. $4.95 for a milkshake the size of a Medium at McDonalds, and proudly made with Nestle brand ice cream... Needless to say it was extremely average and not worth it

                Hamburger -- they boast having a freshly hand-made patty and that they will cook it any way you request -- sadly my request for 'medium' ended up well-done like they do by default. Wasn't extremely flavorful either, and their "Magoo sauce" is like a watery, poorly made Lick's guk-sauce clone

                Fries were good I guess, but I can imagine why people would be irritated with their "spicy fries" , because a few of mine were covered in the 'spicy dust' and all they did was make the fries taste salty and artificial... Onion rings are straight-up frozen from a bag, saw it when I was there.. Ended up paying $15 or something for my meal and wasn't really satisfied

                Much prefer the burger shack on eglinton still.. juicy pink burger, hand-breaded onion rings, excellent...

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                  craigger RE: duckdown Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM

                  I agree that magoos is no better than apache.

                  both have gone down hill in past years and I have been to both at least once a month for the past 15+ years.

                  Apache is the better burger just because it has some sort of taste to it. Magoo's over cooks everything they touch even though they say they will cook to order.

                  when needing good food near kipling station, I have been as of late gone on a pho binge from the newly opened pho house. I cant says its great pho, but I enjoy spicy dishes these days.

                  as for a decent burger close by - I have been surprised a few times by Magic spot, although the past few times I have been there its mainly been because I was craving a beer with by burger primarily.

                  Cheers, and good hunting.

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                    ssainani RE: craigger Nov 19, 2008 12:54 PM

                    while not etobicoke -- and the furthest thing in the world from a nice plate to eat -- the best burger i've had in the area is at 'Mastersteak' at dixie and 401. (yes is is a truck stop)

                    anyways ... the masterburger under $5 is an amazing burger...

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                      duckdown RE: ssainani Nov 26, 2008 11:55 AM

                      Wow, I've been to Master Steaks many times -- Never heard anyone tell me about their burgers though

                      It's not pre-frozen? I will check it out

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                      Brain of J RE: craigger Nov 26, 2008 09:49 AM

                      I just tried Magic Spot. I was a bit disappointed. The burger was dry but still OK tasting . It was a six ounce homeburger. I got a large fries and a 500ml pop also. Cost: around $12.50. At C & Dubbs, for the same amount of money, you can get a juicy sumo (2 eight ounce patties) combo. This further reinforced my claims that Dubbs is the greatest burger joint around. I realize that not everyone wants to eat a 1lb for burger, but for whom quantity is important, Dubbs rules!!! You'll get 10 more ounces of burger at Dubbs versus Magic Spot, and it's bursting with juicy goodness too--for the same cash!

                      Check Dubbs out!

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                        duckdown RE: Brain of J Nov 26, 2008 11:56 AM

                        I am meaning to try this place again also, I am hoping its not a frozen patty like I remembered from last time

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                          craigger RE: Brain of J Nov 26, 2008 01:46 PM

                          I dont understand...

                          my cheeseburger, fries and an MGD cost less than that...

                    3. dannyboy RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 26, 2008 12:47 PM

                      haha that's hilarious...
                      the last few times when i was in the 'big' guy who was dressing the burgers actually got super-annoyed with me because i didn't get my toppings in the order he liked...
                      now i just do it to take the piss, that guy sucks

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                        duckdown RE: dannyboy Nov 26, 2008 02:15 PM

                        lol, the 'big' guy at c & dubbs who is always there?

                        the guy looks permanently pissed off lmao

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                          ssainani RE: duckdown Nov 28, 2008 04:11 AM

                          another one that i forgot ---

                          the serbian burger place on Kipling and North Queen

                          while not a 'traditional burger' still very good imo

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                            duckdown RE: ssainani Nov 28, 2008 08:56 AM

                            Ah yea, I know this place

                            I actually don't like their burgers at all (theres no beef! it's just pork & veal) and no cheese or bacon (other than their cream-cheese spread)

                            However their steak sandwich, grilled chicken, and pork souvlaki are all dynamite..

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                              tjr RE: duckdown Nov 28, 2008 07:36 PM

                              That's why it's not a "traditional" burger.

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                        Westwardho RE: bluesbreaker1969 Nov 28, 2008 06:27 AM

                        I hate Apache for the same reasons. I try and try to like it but their attitude gets to me. If you get the Homeburger (Bigger is better) at Red Cabin, it is fresh made. Magoo's is as good as Red Cabin and the service is always great and friendly (and very kid friendly). Royal Meats on Kipling burger is really good and worth the 15 minutes wait or so, but may I suggest the 1 lb. cevap sandwich. And ask for the cheese stuff and tomato relish stuff. Really good. Acme on the Queensway sucks as they generally pre-cook everything and reheat (read: tough and dry). Magic Spot can be good, but if I'm that close, I'll generally opt for Magoo's There is a new South Street burger on Islington beside the Artisano, but I have never been. Based on reviews from other postings, I am not in a rush to go there however. .

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                          pancake RE: Westwardho Nov 28, 2008 06:01 PM

                          I've heard apache hires troubled teens, etc....
                          Maybe this explains the service issues? Maybe its a myth... don't quote me here

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                            Brain of J RE: pancake Nov 29, 2008 05:57 AM

                            A friend of mine recently went to Apache. As he was scanning the menu, he innocently asked the guy behind the counter what exactly their signature burger was (what's it called, the Apache Burger or the Big Apache or something?). The guy at counter, instead of explaining to my friend what it was, impatiently pointed to the menu on wall as if to say "read it for yourself!" So rude!

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