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L.A. Hotdog Pilgrimage of July 2008
With my sis and mom in town to visit, my wife and I yielded to sis’ idea to find the best hotdogs in LA; our own kind of culinary pilgrimage. We settled on a parametric study including: dog flavor, texture, snap, size, bun, toppings, fries, drinks, atmosphere, and parking. We also targeted grilled, instead of boiled or steamed. After much online research and a good bit of bickering, we charted our course for this Tuesday afternoon to Pinks, Skoobys, Carneys, Marty Ds, Lets Be Frank, Surfas Supply, and the City Bakery. Although the four of us differed in opinion many times, I’m doing the typing so the opinions are mine. Here’s what we found:
Pinks: Definitely an LA landmark and a must-visit for out-of-towners. But it had at least a 45-minute wait at the window (as usual), so we did a drive-by. From several past experiences, the jalapeño dog is gigantic and good; other dogs are just OK. But it’s the toppings that make the experience, hitting all animal-vegetable-mineral kingdoms and all junk food groups, in any combination. Fries are ordinary; a few interesting bottled soft drinks; prices were fair. Having a dedicated parking lot (free) and plenty of tables to relax were pleasant surprises in this not-so-great part of town.
Skoobys: An interesting little spot in the heart of Hollywood Blvd. Dogs ($2) were about 1/6 pound with great flavor and a great snap. The garlic dog ($3) was worth every penny – killer garlic. The bun was dense and flavorful; be careful if you’re stuck on a standard white bread roll. The fresh squeezed lemonade was GREAT. And oh, the fries – perfectly done, skin on, nice thickness, and had that subtle sweetness that any Nathans Coney Islander will know. Primarily a walk-up window establishment, Skoobys had a few bar stools where you could watch the world go by and soak up the Hollywood experience. Street parking was difficult.
Carneys: A cute little train-car restaurant on Sunset Blvd. The dog was quite a disappointment. It was so small, maybe an 1/8 pound, that it was lost in the bun. I couldn’t really determine taste and texture, although I sensed a nice snap. The dog was completely split (not scored), which I happen to like - probably an attempt to make it look bigger. Fries were terrible (last week’s leftover McDonald’s); drinks were just standard. Price – not a good value for the product. The big private parking lot was the only redeeming factor. One thing to note – the burger at the next table looked pretty good.
Marty Ds: Finally a great dog !!! This 1/3 pound monster is worth any journey. One dog is a meal at this place (girth and length) – it sticks way out both ends of the bun. In the heart of Beverly Hills, where quality is king, this dog fits right in. Great taste ! We spent some time with the owner who said he imports the dogs (specially made to his specs) from Brooklyn. This guy is hell bent on giving his customers the ultimate hotdog experience. The tube is slightly scored to let the grill impart a gentle crunch to the exterior, followed by a good snap. Fries were unusual - good & plenty, with a nice thickness, a hard exterior and a mush middle. Specialty drinks included vanilla and chocolate egg creams. Price was a bit high ($8 for a dog + fries), but still a good value given the quantity, quality and table service. Pickle was disappointing. Parking was difficult on a crowded Beverly Blvd.
Warning: The other hotdog grills close early: Let’s Be Frank (4 pm), Surfas (3 pm), City Bakery (3 pm); so we never got to them. Maybe next time . . .
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re: CountDogula
Weenez in Downtown L.A. (500 S. Spring Street) is the closest to a NY grilled dog that I've found in L.A. (Weinerschnitzel's is pretty okay, but a natural casing dog would be better still).
Pup & I went to the Doghouse in La Canada this week. Tasty Sabrett's dog, but it's steamed and not grilled.
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re: sel
Smiley's cart is 100 yards from my office. It still says "Smiley's Catering" but Smiley sold out about a year ago to another personable guy. I can't tell that anything has changed, though, except the new guy is smart enough to bring a lawn chair for himself. He's usually there from about 11:00 to 2:00, but recently he hasn't been there every day of the week. He is there most days, however.
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Pacific Coast Hotdogs in OC is very good and I would definately try em if your in the OC. I've only had the chili dogs and chili fries and they were excellent.
PCH uses Hoffy brand dogs, steamed and they also have a Chicago Dog, New York Dog, and Fire dog offered on there menu. I was amussed seeing the guy use this obviously home made routed out board to hold the dogs while he dressed them. Very clean, he washes his hands in between customers. Always a line.. -
IMHO Jeffs Gourmet Kosher Sausage makes the best dog in LA - they make their own and are strictly kosher - http://www.jeffsgourmet.com/
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I might be considered a simpleton by all you sophisticates, but I still think the COSTCO $1.60 hot dog and coke the best tasting and best bargain in town. I get mine with sauerkraut, deli mustard, relish, and a dash of ketchup. It's a Kosher dog, all beef, and always tasty. I prefer the Polish Hebrew National. Chacun a son gout.
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Has anyone tried the Golf course near Venice beach? A while back someone posted about their stand on the course. (Open fired grill)
Anyways My favs:
Chronies in East Los Angeles (keenan and Whittier blvd.)
Larries in Burbank
The all beef at Der Wiener Schinztle (sp?)
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re: auntflo
My thoughts exactly, auntflo! Sue's a pleasure and her hot dogs are divine! She even accommodates those on a low-carb diet with romaine lettuce "buns." Also the dogs are loaded with omega 3's.
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re: nrique
there's a new champ in town-- let's be frank-- i've had them and they're fantastic. here's the expert's opinion:
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re: auntflo
Previous thread / review of the new dog cart in CC here on Chowhound:
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re: nrique
Yes!! It was I that posted about the hot dogs at Penmar Golf Course.
It still is the best hot dog I've *EVER* had. The dogs are split and grilled to perfection, while the bun is gets nice and toasty on the griddle.
I have yet to find another hot dog better than this one. I personally don't like the steamed kind... this seems to be the only place that ONLY grills the dogs (not steamed THEN grilled or whatever). Also, not a lot of other places take the time to toast their buns.
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Last week I was doing a hotdog crawl through the Vally.
WEINER FACTORY became my top pick...the weiners are yummmy, snappy, and full of flavor. The buns perfectly steams and don't get all hard and funky if they sit unwrapped. The chili is EXCEPTIONAL-exactly the style of chili that I prefer. The cheese is pretyy, and fluffy, and generously piled on top. The young men behind the counter are cheerful and had no problem suggesting tother dogs to try in the 'hood. I still have to try HOt Dog Show on Reverside in TaToluca Lake...any one have any comments on this place? -
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you have to try city bakery on 26th and San Vicente. It is perfection, an amazing hot dog on a buttery brioch bun is a must
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re: Emalish57
My total fave also. I was told that the dog is a skinless Niman Ranch all beef dog. You can get saurkraut on the side, plus it comes with excellent pickles and your choice of coleslaw, something else I can't recall, or fruit (which is usually packed with fresh mango, papaya, and pinneapple). All for $5.00!!! If goes great with their Alice Palmer --- fresh lemonade and tropical green ice tea. The farmer's lemonade is good too.
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My TOP HOT DOGS in L.A.
1. Fair Oaks Pharmacy! - on Fair Oaks Av in South Pasadena
2. Larry's Chili Dog - 3122 Burbank Blvd. in Burbank
3. Skooby Dog -- 6654 Hollywood Blvd in Hollywood
4. Carney's -- Sunset Blvd in Hollywood or Ventura Blvd in Studio City
5. Pinks -- La Brea at Melrose in Hollywood
6. Weiner Factory -- Ventura Blvd in Sherman Oaks
7. any kosher deli dog (Brent's, Canter's, Langer's, Art's etc.)
8. Cupid's (various locations)
9. Tommy's Chili Dog (ditto)
10. Oki Dog (when feeling indestructible)›13 Replies-
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re: gothspace
THey do have a few different types of hot dogs. Here is their website. http://www.tastechicago.biz/ my absolute fave is the Maxwell Street Polish with a poppy seed bun and extra mustard :) try their fies, different than regular french fries.
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re: stacyface
IMO Taste Chicago is best at the Beef and Sausage Combo. The sausage is really good. Add those green pappers -- Tell-em give up some of doz green peppers. Like more den two or three (sooo hard for dem to part with doz things sometimes -- like they are will go broke if they give you what you paid for. Well, maybe that reminds you that you are not really in Chicago cuz if you were you would not even have to ask fo doz peppers.
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re: gothspace
Oooh... Oki Dog. Went there for the first time about twelve years ago or so when Jonathan Gold wrote a glowing review. The original Oki Dog is a work of art. Two grilled hot dogs stuffed into a huge tortilla with chili, pastrami, mustard, cheese and pickles. Great hangover cure but probably more deadly than the drinks you had the night before.
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re: gothspace
Nice list, goth! I love Larry's, CUPID's (is my fave - original locations only), Carney's and Pinks. I just recently had a great dog at Fredo's Philly Cheesesteak on North Lake in Pasadena. 1/4 lb all-beef grilled dog. Served in their Amoroso rolls with thinly sliced red onion, relish and mustard. FANTASTIC!! Get to go to Chicago next week and have some real C-Dogs! Can't wait!!
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re: WildSwede
I totally agree with Tom M., and WildSwede about Cupids being the BEST hot dog place on the planet. Tom M. mentioned that he used to live in the SF Valley. I did too. There was a Cupids on the 3 way corner of Tujunga, Chandler, and Lankersham. I got my hot dog fix there for years and was disappointed that they closed. Then I found a Cupids on Victory and Tyrone in Van Nuys. They closed too. Now I drive 40 miles each way to the Cupids on Lindley just south of the Northridge Cal State U campus. They are the BEST.
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re: gothspace
QT's Chicago Hot dogs in Sherman Oaks and other valley locations are my fav. Also, enjoy the dogs at Taste Chicago in Burbank. And if you are in Orange County, try Portillo's Hot Dogs in Buena Park. Portillo's is famous in Chicago for it's hot dogs and beef sandwiches.
QT's Chicago Dogs
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re: sarahvagaca
I was sadly not too thrilled with THE STAND when I went for the first time last week, I will go back on a Monday for the $1 hot dogs after 5pm (I think the dogs are not good enough for the price, but the place is clean and cheerful)..and nothing beats getting a beer with your dog (unfortunatley, they have "Stella" listed but no longer carry it-darn. I loved the potato chips but I HATED the chili. Cute place. The burgers looked really good...still loving THE WEINER FACTORY on Ventura/Kester (or is it Hazeltine?), not as clean of a place but the dogs ROCK! and the chili is soooo good! The service GREAT!
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With a nod to Creamfinger, on Townsgate just off of Westlake Blvd. in Westlake is Smiley's cart, from which he dispenses Sabrett dogs and polish sausages. A variety of toppings including the infamous Sabrett onions. Free bottled water. $2.50 for a dog and $3.50 for a polish. Delicious, and always a line.
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If you like the grilled Vienna type hot dog you can't do better than Marty's Home of the Combo on Pico just East of Overland, next to the fire station. Nothing else will do the trick when I really need a hot dog fix.
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As far as the valley goes, I like Weiner Factory. Great, steaming hot dogs and buns. Good with mustard and slaw. In the city, I like Tail of the Pup. No lines like Pink's and their extreme hot dog is awesome.
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I don't know which brand(s) of hot dogs they will be serving, but I am looking forward to going to The Stand which is scheduled to open in Encino on December 16. Richard Shapiro, co-founder of The Grill, is one of the three partners.
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For my money, it's Cupids in the Valley. They have about 4 or so stands. I was born and raised in the Valley, and have since left, but Cupids is the one reason that I will always return.
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re: velveteyes
They did, but for whatever reason, they built around it, not through it...so, it sits vacant and depressing, a stark reminder of what it once was.
The Weiner Factory had the same ridiculous, frustrating fate, and it too remains vacant (NOT a pink, sorry, stinkberry) to this very day after closing December 31, 2007.
I miss WF tremendously, as I used to get their turkey dog, the best I ever tasted (I don't eat beef). Specially made for them, with a nice little spicy kick that was so damn tasty. Best hot dog ever, IMO.
Now I'm really sad. The closest places now (The Infield in SO and Fab's in Reseda) are sad replacements. Good toppings, but sadly, the turkey dogs they serve everywhere else besides WF are just plain ho-hum, boring, plain...you get the picture.
Any other WF turkey dog lovers feelin' my pain?
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re: ReelMike84
Mike, that sign has been up for EVER (perhaps since the pinkberry deal fell through, I think around a year ago or so).
I have to seen that darn sign and the place all boarded up often, as I live in the neighborhood and drive by frequently. Constant, depressing reminder of what's happening all over.
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The downtown street cart vendors in the garment district used to have great hot dogs when they were using Sabrett franks. They still prepare the hot dog the same way now but thay have switched to another brand, which I believe is called Meadow Farms. It's not nearly as flavorful.
There must be one single business that rents those carts and supplies all the hot dogs and other products to the individual vendors. They are all identical.›9 Replies-
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re: jaydee
What I truly miss out here are GRILLED hot dogs. One can find them all over NYC (not just @ Nathan's). I'm talking about the grilled and slightly crunchy tubes of heaven you can get at Papaya King or Gray's Papaya. With some brown mustard and kraut....just the best.
Does anyone know where a comperable dog can be found out here?
drooling away....
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re: Theo
Although I don't mind steamed dogs, I agree that grilled hot dogs are the way to go. Thus:
-Nathan's on Pico near Doheny is pretty close to back east
-Weinerschnitzel (believe it or not). Their grilled all beef hot dog was a real surprise. IMHO, definitely better than most of the other suggestions, and definitely superior to Pink's.
-Jody Moroni's hot dogs are grilled I believe
-Johnny's in Culver City - chargrilled and excellent
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re: Les
With all due respect to differing opinions, the Nathan's on Pico bears absolutely no resemblance to anything found in Coney Island (well maybe the logo). The hotdogs served on Pico do not have natural casings. The buns always seem to be borderline stale and tend to crumble in your hand. Also, unbelievably, the last time I was there I was told (after I had the hotdog in my hand) that they had run out of mustard! Now I've been known to commit a culinary crime or two in my time, but the mere thought of putting ketchup on a hot dog is unfathomable.
The fries are great though!
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