571665 Wed Nov 12 10:49:26 -0800 2008 17 34 Wine 0 4167700 So, the Turkey-day Reds threa got me thinking... I need some wine. The wine I had hoped to be drinking is the '06 Thevenet Morgon Villes Vignes. But NorCal seems to be out and I'm ambivelant about ordering a case from a store I've never dealt with just to get a $28 Beaujolais. So, if anyone has a serious Cru Beaujolais reccomendation, I'd love to hear it. Extra points if it is available in the SF area. cheers! Wed Nov 12 10:49:26 -0800 2008 50041 whiner 1 4167961 Ooh I like Thevenet too. I love Beaujolais in general, especially Morgon. I can't vouch for what's available in SF, but these are some BCs I've had recently and enjoyed. 2005 George Descombes Morgon Vieilles Vignes ($25) 2005 Marcel Lapierre Morgon ($25) 2005 Desvignes Morgon Côte du Py Javernières ($22) 2006 Christophe Pacalet Chiroubles ($21) That's in order of preference, although I like and would recommend any of these. The 2006s are drinking well too, but they're not quite as rich as the 05s. Wed Nov 12 12:07:42 -0800 2008 4167700 16011 oolah 1 4168371 No idea bout SF Bay area availability, but E.A. Michaud Brouilly has been the best Beaujolais I've had ever. It won't have all the stuffing of a Morgon, but it is exquisitely balanced. Should be under $20. Wed Nov 12 14:08:01 -0800 2008 4167700 196217 Brad Ballinger 1 4169506 Didn't realize Kermit Lynch was sold out of the Thevenet, but the last time I checked, they still had several Crus de Beaujolais in stock, including: -- 2006 Morgon Côte du Puy Jean Foillard -- 2006 Côte de Brouilly, Château Thivin -- 2006 Brouilly, Château Thivin K&L should have the following in stock: -- 2006 Julienas, La Trinquée, Georges Duboeuf -- 2006 Julienas, Château des Capitans, Georges Duboeuf -- 2005 Brouilly, Cru Beaujolais, Domaine Ruet I cannot give you specifics, but both North Berkeley and Paul Marcus Wines should also have some in stock. Wed Nov 12 22:12:53 -0800 2008 4167700 28122 zin1953 1 4169592 My experience echos that of others here - I would simply turn the bottle around, and look for 'Kermit Lynch' or 'Neal Rosenthal' on the back-label. Also, 2005 was a particularly good vintage. I've heard that Louis/Dressner has a good one(s), but they aren't in my market, so I've never tried any of them. For me, the Duboef and Jadot wines seem a little less interesting, but they are also less expensive, generally, and considerably more available. Wed Nov 12 23:42:18 -0800 2008 4167700 56801 georgempavlov 2 4169722 The "regular" Duboeuf wines are indeed boring, but the estate wines are quite good! And I second the recommendation of the Louis/Dressner wines. Thu Nov 13 04:58:05 -0800 2008 4169592 28122 zin1953 3 4170135 I love the Lapierre Morgon, Chignard Fluerie, Piron Morgon and Merlin Fluerie...think those should be easy enough to find in SF and agree with Zin that Paul Marcus should have a few of the wines recommended. Thu Nov 13 08:03:41 -0800 2008 4169722 96905 bubbles4me 3 4171182 I think all of my suggestions with the exception of the Lapierre are Louis/Dressner. Good stuff! Thu Nov 13 12:34:54 -0800 2008 4169722 16011 oolah 3 4171266 thanks - maybe I will look into those. G Thu Nov 13 13:03:48 -0800 2008 4169722 56801 georgempavlov 1 4182797 Morgon (and Moulin a Vent) might be a bit large for turkey day, imo. I'd go with a something like Chirobles, Regnie, or Fleurie if drinking a young cru beaujolais ('05-'07). One of my fave beaujolais is Pierre Chermette cuvee traditionalle VV. Non-cru but super super good and very accessable (it doesn't shut down hard like some cru will). Many of the larger '05's particularly the Dressner imports like Desvignes CdP Jav, G. Descombes VV, Michel Tete Julienas are really great wines but just aren't ready to drink. Claude-Emmanuel Devignes suggested to me to wait a good 10yrs to drink his '05 CdP Jav. Another perenial fave is the Jean-Paul Brun Terres Dorees L'Ancien. It's not cru but it's up there with the best of the cru. George Descombes '05 Brouilly is pretty yummy right now too. Other faves: Burgaud anything although the '02 Morgon CdP VV is great right now, Longefay Brouilly, Coudert/Roilettes, Thivin Brouilly And for beaujolais importers I usually go with: Dressner, Peter Weygandt, Kermit Tue Nov 18 08:19:44 -0800 2008 4167700 167620 BillB656 1 4183469 I'm also a Morgon fan, but I'm on the other coast, so don't know whether you can find the Dominique Piron Morgon in SF? Tue Nov 18 11:43:09 -0800 2008 4167700 52499 ChefJune 2 4184964 Should be no problem finding the Piron in SF, the West Coast Importer is based in Berkeley...go to beauneimports.com and they have a list of stores that have their wines or just contact them from the website. Tue Nov 18 21:15:57 -0800 2008 4183469 96905 bubbles4me 1 4184396 A liitle off topic but I'm planning a Beaujolais tasting soon and was wondering in what order to serve the Cru. I'm going Nouveau, Beaujolais, Beaujolais Village . . . Thanks Tue Nov 18 17:04:24 -0800 2008 4167700 26180 Chinon00 2 4184948 Keep in mind that one can make Beaujolais Nouveau, Beaujolais-Supériure Nouveau, or a Beaujolais-Villages Nouveau. One cannot make a Cru de Beaujolais in the "nouveau" style. In quality, Nouveau is considered the lowest, but a Beaujolais-Villages Nouveau will be "higher" in quality than a "straight" Beaujolais Nouveau. In terms of traditional, non-Nouveau wines, the hierarchy begins at the bottom with Beaujolais. One step up is Beaujolais Supérieure. Then comes Beaujolais-Villages, and at the top would be a Cru de Beaujolais. Tue Nov 18 20:58:16 -0800 2008 4184396 28122 zin1953 3 4185343 Thanks. And is there any particular order that you'd serve the ten cru beaujolais. For instance I'd figure you'd want to serve Moulin a Vent toward the end. Wed Nov 19 05:20:38 -0800 2008 4184948 26180 Chinon00 4 4185382 Yep. Chénas, Morgon and, especially, Moulin à Vent are generally considered *vins de garde*. That moniker would also apply to some Juliénas (like Michel Tête's). Chiroubles and Fleury are often the supplest and most approachable in youth, with Brouilly, Côte de Brouilly, Régnié and St-Amour not far behind. Of course, growing conditions and winemaking vary significantly and mean such generalizations should be viewed with some suspicion. Wed Nov 19 05:45:28 -0800 2008 4185343 10520 carswell 5 4186381 So it would be better for me to purchase the wines first then decide in which order to serve them? Thanks Wed Nov 19 11:20:54 -0800 2008 4185382 26180 Chinon00 6 4189450 Sounds like a plan. All the more so if you have wines from a range of vintages. Thu Nov 20 11:16:30 -0800 2008 4186381 10520 carswell