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Fresno area - Closures and Changes

This is a rather sad thread to start, but given the current economic situation I fear it is necessary. My greatest wish is that it be short lived.

In order to help fellow hounds in their searches and avoid wasting time on tracking down dead ends, I'm starting a list of what venues either no longer exist or have morphed into other entities.

I propose that those wishing to add to the information, copy the previous response, start their posts with the line "Updated mo/day/year" at the top, paste the prior posts info into the message, then insert their new info into the alphabetical order.

I'll start with a short list I have, some old news, some recent, then follow with an update a fellow hound posted today regarding pastrami. Again, may this thread die an early death.

[Edit to Add: Just realized, in order for this to work, DO NOT reply to this (original post) but rather to the latest of the Reply>Reply> etc chain]

November 10, 2008

Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

Kim's Vietnamese - closed

La Paella - closed

Lantana - closed

Rhema - closed

Rumba - closed

Strings - closed

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  1. November 11, 2008

    FRESNO:

    Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

    Kim's Vietnamese - closed

    La Paella - closed

    Lantana - closed

    Lenny's Bistro - closed

    Rhema - closed

    Rumba - closed

    Strings - closed

    CLOVIS:

    NY Family Deli - closed

    29 Replies
    1. re: PolarBear

      PB, do you think Kim's is closed forever or considering a relocation? That strip mall is a horrible location.

      1. re: Gail

        The report I got was that they just left one night and never returned. It was a couple of weeks before the property owners could gain access and apparently the smell of rotten food was overwhelming. According to some leasing sources the stretch from Kim's for 5 miles or so west on Shaw Ave. is vacancy city.

        1. re: PolarBear

          Wow. Sounds like an emotional decision rather than a business one. This is sad. We were weekly customers when they were on Maroa. The Shaw location was just too inconvenient.

      2. re: PolarBear

        Does anyone know whether the Palms (near Palm & Nees) is still open? We drive by there periodically & never see a car in the parking lot.

        1. re: alanstotle

          Yes, they are open. I've been sent emails about planned wine dinners and husband's company is having their Christmas party there. Now that I'm typing this, it might be possible they are only open for group dinners???

        2. re: PolarBear

          November 13, 2008

          FRESNO:

          Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

          Fugazzi's - closed

          Kim's Vietnamese - closed

          La Paella - closed

          Lantana - closed

          Lenny's Bistro - closed

          Rhema - closed

          Rumba - closed

          Strings - closed

          Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

          Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

          CLOVIS:

          Fugazzi's - closed

          NY Family Deli - closed

          1. re: PolarBear

            November 14, 2008

            FRESNO:

            Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

            Fugazzi's - closed

            Kim's Vietnamese - closed

            La Paella - closed

            Lantana - closed

            Lenny's Bistro - closed

            Rhema - closed

            Rumba - closed

            Strings - closed

            Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

            Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

            Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
            66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

            CLOVIS:

            Fugazzi's - closed

            NY Family Deli - closed

            1. re: PolarBear

              November 21, 2008

              FRESNO:

              Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

              Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed

              Fugazzi's - closed

              Kim's Vietnamese - closed

              La Paella - closed

              Lantana - closed

              Lenny's Bistro - closed

              Rhema - closed

              Rumba - closed

              Strings - closed

              Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

              Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

              Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
              66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

              CLOVIS:

              Fugazzi's - closed

              NY Family Deli - closed

              1. re: PolarBear

                November 28, 2008

                Updates via Joan Obra for Flamenco's, Karsh's Grill, and Hi-Life (Kingsburg)

                FRESNO:

                Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

                Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                Fugazzi's - closed

                Karsh's Grill - catering only

                Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                La Paella - closed

                Lantana - closed

                Lenny's Bistro - closed

                Rhema - closed

                Rumba - closed

                Strings - closed

                Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                CLOVIS:

                Fugazzi's - closed

                NY Family Deli - closed

                KINGSBURG:

                Hi-Life - catering only

                1. re: PolarBear

                  here is a link to Obra's article regarding Flamenco's and Karsh's Grill.

                  http://www.fresnobee.com/columnists/j...

                  1. re: PolarBear

                    FRESNO:

                    Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

                    Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                    Folia Bros. Deli

                    Fugazzi's - closed

                    Karsh's Grill - catering only

                    Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                    La Paella - closed

                    Lantana - closed

                    Lenny's Bistro - closed

                    Rhema - closed

                    Rumba - closed

                    Strings - closed

                    Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                    Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                    Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                    66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                    CLOVIS:

                    Fugazzi's - closed

                    NY Family Deli - closed

                    KINGSBURG:

                    Hi-Life - catering only

                    Folia Bros Deli had a 4-1/2 year run, lease was incredibly high (7k), could not lock into that for another 5 yr lease. Dealing with the city was insane/water, signage, etc. had a great following, but pockets just werent deep enough to keep it going, hated to see it go

                    1. re: PolarBear

                      Dec. 3, 2008 - updated via Joan Obra on Masala

                      FRESNO:

                      Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

                      Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                      Fugazzi's - closed

                      Karsh's Grill - catering only

                      Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                      La Paella - closed

                      Lantana - closed

                      Lenny's Bistro - closed

                      Masala Indian Cuisine - closed, now Roots

                      Rhema - closed

                      Rumba - closed

                      Strings - closed

                      Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                      Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                      Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                      66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                      CLOVIS:

                      Fugazzi's - closed

                      NY Family Deli - closed

                      KINGSBURG:

                      Hi-Life - catering only

                      1. re: PolarBear

                        December 7, 2008

                        Updates via Joan Obra for Karsh's Grill, and report from friends on Georges transformation to Elements (tapas).

                        FRESNO:

                        Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

                        Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                        Fugazzi's - closed

                        George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                        Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                        Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                        La Paella - closed

                        Lantana - closed

                        Lenny's Bistro - closed

                        Rhema - closed

                        Rumba - closed

                        Strings - closed

                        Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                        Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                        Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                        66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                        CLOVIS:

                        Fugazzi's - closed

                        NY Family Deli - closed

                        KINGSBURG:

                        Hi-Life - catering only

                        1. re: PolarBear

                          December 19, 2008

                          Updates via Joan Obra's article in today's "7" section.

                          FRESNO:

                          Casa Mariana II - closed (Herndon & Cedar)

                          Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai

                          Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                          Fugazzi's - closed

                          George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                          Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                          Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                          La Paella - closed

                          Lantana - closed

                          Lenny's Bistro - closed

                          Marsol - events only (Maroa S of Shields)

                          Rhema - closed

                          Rumba - closed

                          Strings - closed

                          Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                          Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                          Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                          66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                          CLOVIS:

                          Fugazzi's - closed

                          Jimmie's Bakery & Cafe - closed

                          NY Family Deli - closed

                          KINGSBURG:

                          Hi-Life - catering only

                          1. re: PolarBear

                            December 23, 2008

                            Updates via post to MindHub and personal observations, Cafe Corazon, Le Roi, Mama Lo's, Olive Press, and Savannah's

                            FRESNO:

                            Cafe Corazon - closed (Fulton Mall)

                            Casa Mariana II - closed (Herndon & Cedar)

                            Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai (Thai Kitchen)

                            Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                            Folia Bros. Deli

                            Fugazzi's - closed

                            George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                            Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                            Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                            La Paella - closed

                            Lantana - closed

                            Le Roi Bakery - closed (Champlain & Perrin)

                            Lenny's Bistro - closed

                            Mama Lo's - closed, now Myles' Family Kitchen

                            Marsol - events only (Maroa S of Shields)

                            Olive Press - closed (Kern St.)

                            Rhema - closed

                            Rumba - closed

                            Savannah's - closed (Kern & L Sts.)

                            Strings - closed

                            Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                            Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                            Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                            66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                            CLOVIS:

                            Fugazzi's - closed

                            Jimmie's Bakery & Cafe - closed

                            NY Family Deli - closed

                            KINGSBURG:

                            Hi-Life - catering only

                            1. re: PolarBear

                              An update to note that Le Roi Bakery has an outpost downtown at Tulare and "N" Street that is still open. Additionally, they have a little stand in the Fashion Fair Mall towards the Macy's side. Although I wish them well, I have not been overly impressed with anything I have had there.

                              1. re: PolarBear

                                January 27, 2009

                                Updated to include Roots, and reinsert a couple that had dropped out.

                                FRESNO:

                                Cafe Corazon - closed (Fulton Mall)

                                Casa Mariana II - closed (Herndon & Cedar)

                                Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai (Thai Kitchen)

                                Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                                Folia Bros. Deli

                                Fugazzi's - closed

                                George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                                Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                                Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                                La Paella - closed

                                Lantana - closed

                                Le Roi Bakery - closed (Champlain & Perrin)

                                Lenny's Bistro - closed

                                Mama Lo's - closed, now Myles' Family Kitchen

                                Marsol - events only (Maroa S of Shields)

                                Masala Indian Cuisine - closed, >>> Roots - closed

                                Olive Press - closed (Kern St.)

                                Rhema - closed

                                Roots - closed

                                Rumba - closed

                                Savannah's - closed (Kern & L Sts.)

                                Strings - closed

                                Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                                Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                                Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                                66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                                CLOVIS:

                                Fugazzi's - closed

                                Jimmie's Bakery & Cafe - closed

                                NY Family Deli - closed

                                KINGSBURG:

                                Hi-Life - catering only

                                1. re: PolarBear

                                  January 30, 2009

                                  Updated to include Joan Obra's column in today's "7" about the Hi-Life in Kingsburg reopening.

                                  FRESNO:

                                  Cafe Corazon - closed (Fulton Mall)

                                  Casa Mariana II - closed (Herndon & Cedar)

                                  Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai (Thai Kitchen)

                                  Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                                  Folia Bros. Deli

                                  Fugazzi's - closed

                                  George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                                  Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                                  Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                                  La Paella - closed

                                  Lantana - closed

                                  Le Roi Bakery - closed (Champlain & Perrin)

                                  Lenny's Bistro - closed

                                  Mama Lo's - closed, now Myles' Family Kitchen

                                  Marsol - events only (Maroa S of Shields)

                                  Masala Indian Cuisine - closed, >>> Roots - closed

                                  Olive Press - closed (Kern St.)

                                  Rhema - closed

                                  Roots - closed

                                  Rumba - closed

                                  Savannah's - closed (Kern & L Sts.)

                                  Strings - closed

                                  Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                                  Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                                  Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                                  66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                                  CLOVIS:

                                  Fugazzi's - closed

                                  Jimmie's Bakery & Cafe - closed

                                  NY Family Deli - closed

                                  KINGSBURG:

                                  Hi-Life - catering only >>> Dinner Thurs-Sat

                                    1. re: PolarBear

                                      Le Roi location downtown (on Tulare) is also closed.

                                      1. re: PolarBear

                                        February 19, 2009

                                        Updated to include Lunch Critics post re closing of Pangea (beating the Fresno Fish wrap by several days) and tavmark's observation of the lights out at Le Roi (downtown Tulare St. location). Also your humble scribes heartwrenching discovery today that El Toro Cafe's doors were closed, thankfully notes on them indicate they are in the process of moving just a block north of Shields Ave on the east side into the former brick building of DiCicco's, 3430 N. Cedar (note while looking for addresses you'll see everything on the corner as being in the 4100 - 4200, which refers to E. Shields. No idea when the new opening will occur.

                                        FRESNO:

                                        Cafe Corazon - closed (Fulton Mall)

                                        Casa Mariana II - closed (Herndon & Cedar)

                                        El Toro Cafe - relocating 1 block north of Shields on Cedar (E side) to former DiCiccos location (red brick bldg)

                                        Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai (Thai Kitchen)

                                        Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                                        Folia Bros. Deli

                                        Fugazzi's - closed

                                        George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                                        Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                                        Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                                        La Paella - closed

                                        Lantana - closed

                                        Le Roi Bakery - closed (Champlain & Perrin)

                                        Le Roi Bakery - closed (Tualre St. downtown)

                                        Lenny's Bistro - closed

                                        Mama Lo's - closed, now Myles' Family Kitchen

                                        Marsol - events only (Maroa S of Shields)

                                        Masala Indian Cuisine - closed, >>> Roots - closed

                                        Olive Press - closed (Kern St.)

                                        Pangea - closed Figarden Village

                                        Rhema - closed

                                        Roots - closed

                                        Rumba - closed

                                        Savannah's - closed (Kern & L Sts.)

                                        Strings - closed

                                        Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                                        Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                                        Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                                        66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                                        CLOVIS:

                                        Fugazzi's - closed

                                        Jimmie's Bakery & Cafe - closed

                                        NY Family Deli - closed

                                        KINGSBURG:

                                        Hi-Life - catering only >>> Dinner Thurs-Sat

                                        1. re: PolarBear

                                          Gawd PB, You gave me a jolt there for a second till I read on! I wonder how they'll incorporate their bar in the new location. I didn't even realize that DiCicco's was gone. How long have they been out of business?

                                          1. re: PolarBear

                                            For those who don't get PB's favorite newspaper, here is a link to today's edition with a good article about Fresno restaurants trying to stay afloat. Nice and balanced take by Joan Obra.

                                            http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/12...

                                            1. re: fresnohotspot

                                              I would never consider going to Ruth's Chris, but after reading the incident that Joan related at the end of the article, I will definately make it a point to actually discourage anyone else from going there as well.

                                              1. re: PolarBear

                                                Actually when I was at Ruth's a few months ago the service was very good as was the steak. We had none of the problems mentioned, we were seated in 2 minutes, service was good, etc.

                                                I've been taken to Ruth's elsewhere in the country by clients over the years, Dallas, Vegas, etc. (Clients and Ruth's, do they all share notes on where to take someone?) Had a good meal in Dallas, but the food was bad in Vegas, other cities I've been happy with it..

                                                When I went a few months ago it was my wife's choice. She has never been in one and wanted to see what it was like.

                                                Between Ruths and Flemings I'd still tell someone to go to Ruth's. Flemings is too noisy for my taste.

                                                But we still prefer Chefs Table, Trelio, and other places around town.

                                            2. re: PolarBear

                                              February 22, 2009

                                              Updated to include information on Palomino's and Richard's as reported by Joan Obra on the front page of today's papier l'pesce.

                                              FRESNO:

                                              Cafe Corazon - closed (Fulton Mall)

                                              Casa Mariana II - closed (Herndon & Cedar)

                                              El Toro Cafe - relocating 1 block north of Shields on Cedar (E side) to former DiCiccos location (red brick bldg)

                                              Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai (Thai Kitchen)

                                              Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                                              Folia Bros. Deli

                                              Fugazzi's - closed

                                              George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                                              Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                                              Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                                              La Paella - closed

                                              Lantana - closed

                                              Le Roi Bakery - closed (Champlain & Perrin)

                                              Le Roi Bakery - closed (Tualre St. downtown)

                                              Lenny's Bistro - closed

                                              Mama Lo's - closed, now Myles' Family Kitchen

                                              Marsol - events only (Maroa S of Shields)

                                              Masala Indian Cuisine - closed, >>> Roots - closed

                                              Olive Press - closed (Kern St.)

                                              Palomino's - cuisine change Italian >>> Mexican (some fusion & variations)

                                              Pangea - closed Figarden Village

                                              Rhema - closed

                                              Richard's - closed

                                              Roots - closed

                                              Rumba - closed

                                              Savannah's - closed (Kern & L Sts.)

                                              Strings - closed

                                              Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                                              Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                                              Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                                              66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                                              Upstairs/Downtown (closed @ 2 years ago)

                                              CLOVIS:

                                              Fugazzi's - closed

                                              Jimmie's Bakery & Cafe - closed

                                              NY Family Deli - closed

                                              KINGSBURG:

                                              Hi-Life - catering only >>> Dinner Thurs-Sat

                                              1. re: PolarBear

                                                February 27, 2009

                                                Updated to include information on Ensenada Grill, Laurita's, and Tico's Place.

                                                FRESNO:

                                                Cafe Corazon - closed (Fulton Mall)

                                                Casa Mariana II - closed (Herndon & Cedar)

                                                El Toro Cafe - relocated 1 block north of Shields on Cedar (E side) to former DiCiccos location (red brick bldg)

                                                Ensenada Grill - closed (SW Bullard & Marks)

                                                Fahrenheit 5104 - closed, now Krua Thai (Thai Kitchen)

                                                Flamencos Tapas of Spain - closed, now catering only

                                                Folia Bros. Deli

                                                Fugazzi's - closed

                                                George's (Marks & Bullard) - closed, reopened as Elements (tapas)

                                                Karsh's Grill - catering only - reopened Wed-Sat eves

                                                Kim's Vietnamese - closed

                                                La Paella - closed

                                                Lantana - closed

                                                Laurita's Pupusas - closed now >>> Zamora Taqueria (pupusas & hamburgers) no association with Zamora's on N. Fresno St.

                                                Le Roi Bakery - closed (Champlain & Perrin)

                                                Le Roi Bakery - closed (Tualre St. downtown)

                                                Lenny's Bistro - closed

                                                Mama Lo's - closed, now Myles' Family Kitchen

                                                Marsol - events only (Maroa S of Shields)

                                                Masala Indian Cuisine - closed, >>> Roots - closed

                                                Olive Press - closed (Kern St.)

                                                Palomino's - cuisine change Italian >>> Mexican (some fusion & variations)

                                                Pangea - closed Figarden Village

                                                Rhema - closed

                                                Richard's - closed

                                                Roots - closed

                                                Rumba - closed

                                                Savannah's - closed (Kern & L Sts.)

                                                Strings - closed

                                                Sumo's Japanese Grill - closed

                                                Tau Asian Bistro - closed ( formerly Tien Ju )

                                                Tico's Place (Colombian) - closed

                                                Toom Thai now Gem Of Thailand
                                                66 E. Herndon Av. (NE at Blackstone)

                                                Upstairs/Downtown (closed @ 2 years ago)

                                                CLOVIS:

                                                Fugazzi's - closed

                                                Jimmie's Bakery & Cafe - closed

                                                NY Family Deli - closed

                                                KINGSBURG:

                                                Hi-Life - catering only >>> Dinner Thurs-Sat

                                              2. re: PolarBear

                                                El Toro Cafe opened in their new location Feb. 23. Stoped by briefly today to see when they would reopen . Linda (longtime waitress at El Toro) told me they had opened yesterday at 2pm. The place looks very nice. They must have been working on this transition since shortly after DiCicco's moved out in August.. I'm impressed!

                                                1. re: Jeff Avis

                                                  Great news, Jeff. Thanks for sniffing that out.

                          2. Both the Fresno and Clovis locations of Fugazzis closed.

                            I'm hearing rumors about a few other places from real estate people but will wait to see if they come true. Some landlords are renegotiating leases right now.

                            1. I just saw Channel 30 News announce the closure of Flamenco's Tapas of Spain (near Woodward Park).

                              1. Flamencos Tapas of Spain just closed. The Ortega family noted their business had fallen off 70 percent in the last few months.

                                4 Replies
                                1. re: fresnohotspot

                                  It's a shame. I work for an accountant and we can definitely see the economic downturn for our business clients. People losing 30 40 50% of their portfolio's. It's frightening. Dining out seems to be an easy thing to eliminate. I'd have to say that we are more careful about eating out these days. I was sad to see Fugazzi's go. They had a salad there with assorted greens over a bed of pasta that was really nice. I wondered whether their business had fallen off because of the newer restaurants opening up in the expansion. Very sad.

                                  1. re: mrsmegawatt

                                    mrsmegawatt, do you know if Cracked Pepper has finished its expansion? I thought they might try to have it ready-to-go for the holidays.

                                    1. re: Gail

                                      Hi Gail. I don't know if it's finished or not. I don't think they've been working on it that long...maybe a month or so? I'll have a look next time I drive by. I'm happy to see that awful store that was next to it...gone!

                                      1. re: mrsmegawatt

                                        Me too!! Also, I think it will impove their seating situation, especially for duos. Please report back if you see/hear anything.

                                2. Joan Obra wrote today that Masala Indian Cuisine is closing and the space will be taken up by a new restaurant , Roots. Masala was convenient because they had a lunch buffet that allowed for quick meals. Unfortunately, their quality was hit and miss depending on what chef was working. Here is a link to the article - it also includes an interesting write up on a new seafood provider to the local farmer's markets.

                                  http://www.fresnobee.com/columnists/j...