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vallevin Nov 11, 2008 09:23 AM

I saw the sign up myself today for Shalom Bombay, I didn't have time to stop. It is on Cedar Lane, but closer to Teaneck Road, almost opposite the 7-11. Here is what I found on the web:

http://njmg.typepad.com/foodblog/2008...

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    tomby Nov 11, 2008 07:18 PM

    Who's supervision?

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      vallevin Nov 11, 2008 07:53 PM

      As we religious fanatics say, Bli Nedar, I will try to actually stop by there tomorrow to get more info

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        DeisCane Nov 12, 2008 05:16 AM

        Someone on that blog implied it would be meat. I'd LOVE that.

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      vallevin Nov 12, 2008 03:49 PM

      I drove by again today -- no additional information (there was a sign that read "Opening Soon". All I saw was "kosher Indian", nothing about glatt, nothing about vegetarian, so it's anybodys guess at this moment. I tried to post a message about this to the TeaneckShuls message group, but it got booted by the moderators (they gotten very serious about businesses using the group for free advertising).

      Time to be patient.

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        marissaj Nov 13, 2008 05:17 AM

        hey everyone,
        my friend is the manager at this place. he says they are hoping to open next monday, the place is definitely meat and nder rcbc.....

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          Kosher Critic Nov 13, 2008 12:44 PM

          I am happy to hear that S.B. will be opening soon as I too have been driving by frequently just to check. I am somewhat disappointed to learn that it will be meat. The vegetarian kosher Indian places are successful because they do not need to alter their recipes to become kosher. Many Indian meat-based dishes contain dairy so some dilution of authenticity, as well as flavor, is inevitable.

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            DeisCane Nov 14, 2008 05:07 AM

            I don't know if I agree. Yes, ghee is fundamental to many dishes like biryani, but in many cases a substitute like light olive oil can make very little different to the taste. Tandoori meats have no dairy component and most curries are already regularly made with coconut milk rather than cream.

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              Kosher Critic Nov 14, 2008 07:24 AM

              Dear Deis,

              While the only "tandoori" meat dish I've eaten (tandoori chicken) was in the long-defunct Indian restaurant at the former Jerusalem Hilton, I am pretty sure that the real thing requires yogurt. Mind you, I don't care for yogurt-based sauces so maybe I will enjoy the fare at S.B. I am certainly trying to keep an open mind and I hope to be there during week one.

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                queenscook Nov 14, 2008 11:57 AM

                The Indian restaurant in the former Jerusalem Hilton, now the Crowne Plaza, is not at all "long-defunct"; my husband and I had a nice lunch there this past summer. It's called Kohinoor.

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                  DeisCane Nov 17, 2008 06:37 AM

                  Most tandoori chicken is indeed marinated in yogurt prior to seasoning and cooking but there is a semantic difference between a dish like Tandoori Chicken, which is traditionally marinated in tangy yogurt, and cooking meats in a tandoor, which is what I was referring to, and which does not require yogurt.

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                    NYJewboy Nov 17, 2008 09:03 AM

                    Yeah. There is no discernible yogurt at all once it is cooked, no sauce at all in fact, unless you get a tandoori dish like a malai or tikka masala. Those are tandoori dishes with sauces added later. Very tasty.

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                  midasgold Nov 14, 2008 07:47 AM

                  Deis Cane, you're making Midas mighty hungry!

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                    keedaah Nov 24, 2008 06:51 AM

                    Dairy IS used in Tandoori meat dishes. Yogurt is used to tenderize the meat.

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                      DeisCane Nov 24, 2008 02:00 PM

                      Yes, as we all discussed already.

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                    zsero Nov 20, 2008 04:07 AM

                    The meat Indian restaurant that used to exist in Queens claimed to use traditional Jewish Indian recipes (i.e. the modification to kosher happened a few centuries ago instead of yesterday), so at least from an historical perspective they were just as authentic as the treife recipes.

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                    vallevin Nov 15, 2008 02:38 PM

                    Can you get me contact info for your friend (name & phone)? Someone in the community needs kosher indian for a party next sat. Night.

                    Thanks

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                  vallevin Nov 17, 2008 05:58 AM

                  Here is the annoucement:
                  The long awaited Grand Opening of Shalom Bombay is finally here
                  tomorrow (Tuesday Nov 18th at 12pm).

                  Shalom Bombay Restaurant is the first authentic Glatt Kosher meat
                  Indian diverse cuisine in the Country. The restaurant located at
                  (166 Cedar Lane) offers an extensive selection of classic Indian
                  chicken, lamb, beef, seafood and vegetarian dishes. This colorful,
                  seductive space provides a warm, inviting setting for sampling
                  Shalom's own brand of unique Indian cuisine. Effortlessly melding new
                  flavors with traditional spices and recipes, the restaurant prides
                  itself on dishes possessing universal appeal. Begin your meal with a
                  helping of clay oven-baked naan or alu paratha, Indian breads that
                  are delicious. I advise you all to roll down your windows and ease
                  up on the gas - tantalizing aromas have been wafting over a plain
                  Jane strip mall on Cedar Lane for the past week. Our hours of
                  operation are:
                  Sunday -Thursday 12-3pm and then 5-9:30pm
                  Saturday Night - 1.5 hours after Shabbos

                  Don't forget to pick up a take-out menu and ask about our unique
                  private parties - We cater for all occasions.

                  Under RCBC supervision.

                  Regards,
                  Alan

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                    zsero Nov 20, 2008 04:05 AM

                    They're not the first. There used to be a meat Indian place in Queens, which I liked the few times I shlepped out there, but it closed about 10 years ago.

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                      queenscook Nov 20, 2008 02:37 PM

                      Just curious . . . where was this Indian place in Queens? And does anyone know what it was called? I have lived in Queens for years and I don't ever recall an Indian restaurant under a good hechsher.

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                        jdh11 Nov 21, 2008 08:38 AM

                        Just found the name - it was Bombay Kitchen - see http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage...

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                    koshergourmetmart Nov 17, 2008 06:02 AM

                    this was posted at teaneck groups
                    tomorrow (Tuesday Nov 18th at 12pm).

                    Shalom Bombay Restaurant is the first authentic Glatt Kosher meat
                    Indian diverse cuisine in the Country. The restaurant located at
                    (166 Cedar Lane) offers an extensive selection of classic Indian
                    chicken, lamb, beef, seafood and vegetarian dishes. This colorful,
                    seductive space provides a warm, inviting setting for sampling
                    Shalom's own brand of unique Indian cuisine. Effortlessly melding new
                    flavors with traditional spices and recipes, the restaurant prides
                    itself on dishes possessing universal appeal. Begin your meal with a
                    helping of clay oven-baked naan or alu paratha, Indian breads that
                    are delicious. I advise you all to roll down your windows and ease
                    up on the gas - tantalizing aromas have been wafting over a plain
                    Jane strip mall on Cedar Lane for the past week. Our hours of
                    operation are:
                    Sunday -Thursday 12-3pm and then 5-9:30pm
                    Saturday Night - 1.5 hours after Shabbos

                    Don't forget to pick up a take-out menu and ask about our unique
                    private parties - We cater for all occasions.

                    Under RCBC supervision.

                    1. rebeccafriedman Nov 17, 2008 11:21 AM

                      This is amazing! Please, whomever gets there first, tell us all about your experience - taste, quality, ambience, pricing - this would be a great option for a special occasion! Also would love to know if they have lamb on the menu, I adore Indian lamb and never get a chance to eat it!

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                        keedaah Nov 24, 2008 07:02 AM

                        I ate there last motzei shabbos with a group of friends. When you go to this place do not expect pictures on the walls. I was told by a friend they were asked to remove them for avoda zara reasons. Their menu contains the most popular chicken, lamb and beef Indian dishes. The place is BYOB, the prices were expensive and the serving sizes quite small. The wait staff were also extremely slow; people came in after us and received their dishes before we did. I love Indian food so I asked what they used to make their dishes as a substitute for yogurt. For all those wondering, they use parve sour cream. I had chicken biryani which I thought was pretty good. One of my friends had Tandoori chicken; I didn't like it as much. In addition to paying for the main dish, you must also pay separately for basmati rice and Naan. On a scale of 1 to 5 stars, I would give it a 3.

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                        mrogovin Nov 24, 2008 09:05 AM

                        Have not yet tried it and am looking forward since I love Indian (Chennai is my current favorite spot). However, I think it was a foolish decision to go meat: it eliminates a large portion of the potential market (vegetarians and non-kosher Indian/Pakistanis) and makes it more expensive. At a time when many of us are cutting back eating out to save money, another costly option does not help. A dairy or parve (or vegan) place would be much more appealing. I heard it was good and will probably try it once, but I cannot envision being a regular.

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                          teachermom Nov 24, 2008 01:43 PM

                          Just to clarify, making the restaurant meat doesn't eliminate Pakistanis, of which there is a sizeable community in Teaneck. Most Muslims will happily eat Kosher meat interchangeably with Halal. We are actually planning to go out to dinner there with our halal-keeping Pakistani friends. The real prohibitive thing with a kosher restaurant is simply the price.

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                          vallevin Nov 25, 2008 06:52 PM

                          I finally got something from the place tonight. Based on some inital poor reviews, I opted for just an appetizer as take-out. My mom and I shared the mixed kebab platter ($14). At first I thought it was a paltry amount of meat for the price, but it actually was okay. There were 4 different meats, tandoori chicken, chicken tikka (I think), some steak pieces done tandoori style (I think), and beef seekh kabob.

                          The chicken tikka and beef seekh were much better than the tandoori. It came with 2 sauces (one green and one that was a spicy sweet and sour) that were good.

                          When all is said and done, it was good enough to go back. We're going to order 2 entrees (It's mom's birthday) next week. I'd appreciate anyone else's feedback.

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                            GilaB Nov 25, 2008 08:16 PM

                            My husband and I went last night. We found the food priced like most moderate meat restaurants, and were fine with the size of the portions. My one major issue is that they don't warn you anywhere on the menu that the food is made fairly bland, and that if you'd like it at all spiced, you need to ask for that when you order. (I do not like food that is spicy purely for the sake of being spicy, but I have cooked Indian food at home, and was expecting much more in the way of seasonings.) That said, the food was overall pretty good.

                            Appetizers: Before we ordered, we were given a free dish of tasty vegetable fritters. The beef samosas ($6 for three) were well fried and not too greasy, and filled with lightly seasoned ground beef rather than the mixture of beef, mashed potatoes, and other vegetables that I was expecting. The tawa chicken ($8), the only dish of the night that we didn't find underseasoned, was a mix of boneless white meat, green peppers, and onions in a tomato-cilantro sauce. The appetizers came with three sauces - a mint chutney, a tangy-sweet one based on something I couldn't identify, and a chopped onion chutney; the sauces were flavorful and good.

                            Mains: We had the reshmi kabab ($16), which was nicely tender, but we couldn't taste any of the cashew paste in which the chicken is marinated; I found it very bland. The beef vindaloo ($21) was not at all spicy (as it is described on the menu), and was stewier than I expected, but the flavor was fine.

                            I'd almost certainly go back, and definitely ask for them to up the spices next time. They're cooking for a very Ashkenazi palate, and I say this as an Ashkenazi person!

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                              vallevin Nov 26, 2008 04:17 AM

                              As I understand it, the owners of SB also run Taj Palace (where B&B bagels used to be). I thought Taj Palace has gotten some pretty good reviews, so they should know what they are doing.

                              I agree about the spiciness.

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                                bfarkas Dec 2, 2008 11:56 AM

                                I went last night for the first time. Also disappointed with the blandness, and chewy pieces of meat. But the lamb curry was superb. Tandoor chicken - dried out. The service still needs a lot of work. There was only the maitre'd (who served) and 1 waiter. Service was slow, spotty and forgetful. And there were only 4 tales occupied during most of our visit. Would worry on a busy night.

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                                  vallevin Dec 2, 2008 03:41 PM

                                  We did take-out tonight, and were pretty happy. We had the chicken vindaloo ($17.00) and Dum Aloo Kashmir (fruit stuffed potatoes) ($14). Looking at the servings, I thought it was a small portion for the amount of money, but we did get a big portion of rice and some naan. Both were underspiced, but the green chutney(?) was spicy enough to add the right kick. When all was said and done, my mom and I were stuffed, with plenty of rice left over.

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                            NYC2TLV Dec 17, 2008 11:41 AM

                            First off, please forgive me as I will not remember the names of all the dishes because this was the first time that I had eaten Indian. I ate here today for lunch. I found that it was well priced and tasted great. I ordered the beef samosas for an appetizer and found that the three samosas for $6 is a great value. They were filling and delicious. The lunch special of the Tandoori platter is enough for two people with small appetites. I couldn't finish everything. The chicken tikka and kebab were excellent as was the pita like bread. It came with rice, two other meats and some vegetables. I left full and satisfied and I couldn't stop thinking about the rich flavors that I had just had. My palette of Yemeni/Moroccan taste has now been expanded. I would have preferred the food to be spicier, but I could understand that they didn't want to overdo it for the local population. It still did not lack any flavor. Lehitraot Bombay!

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                              Shaldag Dec 17, 2008 12:49 PM

                              I dined in there last night and enjoyed the experience immensely. Judging from the crowd, there is a bit of buzz around this place as the restaurant was pretty full despite it being a snowy Tuesday evening. Service was attentive and quick (not only for the food- my water glass was refilled almost continuously) and I found the prices reasonable, if not cheap.

                              We enjoyed the small appetizer plate and assorted sauces and chutneys placed on our table upon arrival and then got the bread basket we ordered ($12) which included three different varieties- naan, an oilier, flakier flatbread whose name I don't recall, and a really excellent onion filled bread that was a real standout.

                              We shared two entrees, the lamb vindaloo ($20) and chicken kali mirch ($18). Having read the earlier reviews, I was not surprised when the waiter warned us that the dishes were very spicy, and I made sure to assure him that we wanted them that way so they wouldn't be bland. I didn't find either to be all that spicy when I tasted them- both were flavorful and had a little bit of heat, but were hardly overwhelming. The textures were pleasing and the presentation simple, but appealing. When the dishes first arrived, I thought that the portions seemed a bit small, but they turned out to be just right. As we didn't have much time, we didn't try of the desserts but I will certainly be back again and I'll look forward to experiencing more of the menu at a later date.

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                                Shaldag Dec 26, 2008 08:04 AM

                                A follow up based on a subsequent visit during which I got to sample some additional menu items-
                                - the tandoori chicken was exceptional- tender and juicy and very flavorful. I was initially skeptical of any and all dishes that were made with pareve sour cream or yogurt but this was executed nicely
                                - the keema naan, a bread stuffed with ground lamb and seasonings was tasty and filling
                                - jeera rice, a fluffy basmati rice with cumin seeds, provided a nice accompaniment, though I found it needed a little bit of salt, which led me to notice the salt mill on the table- a nice touch

                                I am looking forward to returning again- the menu is expansive enough and the different dishes distinct enough from one another that it will take several visits to experience the full range of Shalom Bombay's offerings.

                            2. queenscook Dec 25, 2008 08:56 PM

                              My husband and I crossed the bridge tonight to dine at Shalom Bombay.

                              Armed with the likes and dislikes of previous posters, we wound up duplicating many of the choices of others, so I don't have a lot new to report on. We started with the beef samosa appetizer plate and mulligatawny soup. The waitress brought the soup first, but had two bowls on her tray. We informed her that we had only ordered one portion, along with samosas. She waved it off, as though to say, "That's OK, have it on us." And in fact, we were not charged for the second bowl. Unfortunately, though, it was the most forgettable tasting soup. It was not far different than a standard chicken soup--nothing like any mulligatawny recipe I've ever seen. No apples, no vegetables, no spices. The samosas were quite good, though. We ordered a bread called stuffed paratha, which I'd hardly call "stuffed," but which was tasty nonetheless. It was four pieces of a flat bread, almost like pita, with a mashed potato-cauliflower mix between the layers. I think it's a bit steep at $6, though. On to our main courses. We shared two dishes: lamb vindaloo and chicken kali mirch. I thought the lamb tasted more like beef, but I really couldn't be sure, so I didn't bother to say anything. It was good, though, whichever meat it was. Not very spicy, but I put in some of the green condiment that was put on the table at the beginning of the meal, which spiced it up a bit. The chicken was a bit spicier, though it was far from spicy. Both were flavorful, though. We ended the meal with rice pudding and what they called moong daal seera. We're big rice pudding fans, but were not impressed with theirs. Every other time I've had Indian rice pudding, it has had more spices (cardamom, cinnamon). This was fairly bland, and also much thicker and less liquidy than standard Indian rice pudding. The other dessert, though, was great. On the menu it was described as a fudge made of lentils, and while I'd hardly have thought to describe it as fudge, it was quite tasty. And it was served hot, which was also interesting.

                              Just a couple of other things to mention. Other posters mentioned freebie appetizers at the outset, but we were not given any. It also took two requests to get ice for my water. And like a number of others, I thought the portions looked small initially, but really turned out to be quite enough. Maybe we're just so used to the supersizing world we live in. I admit, it's nice to get another serving out of a meal by taking a doggie bag home, but these portions are probably more in line with what we should be eating. I do think that some bread should be included with the meal, and that the prices for the breads are a bit high.

                              Still it was a pleasant meal that, overall, we'd give a thumbs up to. Teaneck is a bit of a shlep from Queens, but I'd go back.

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