571169 Mon Nov 10 17:16:32 -0800 2008 14 27 General Chowhounding Topics 0 4163162 People, including myself, seem to be a bit naturally squeamish about eating fellow carnivores. While I understand that tuna and other fish are carnivorous they eat other fish, which isn't quite the same. I'm talking about eating alligators, bears, dogs, lions (which I've seen offered). Does anyone know of any science out there and that discusses the problem with eating within ones own station of the food chain? Or does anyone know of anyone who particularly enjoys eating such creatures? Thanks! Mon Nov 10 17:16:32 -0800 2008 180476 jksterling 1 4164013 Do you have an issue eating chickens? Because they eat meat. Tue Nov 11 06:00:26 -0800 2008 4163162 15217 gini 1 4164042 I have no issue eating or trying any of the things you mentioned, other than dogs, and house cats. I eat alligator regularly, and enjoy shark as well. No science involved for me, if it tastes good I eat it, I have no conscience when it comes to that. Tue Nov 11 06:15:52 -0800 2008 4163162 26725 swsidejim 1 4164081 Well, to start, we are not carnivores, we are omnivores. I can't think of any carnivore outside of fish that I have ever eaten, not out of squeamishness, but just lack of opportunity. I have had bear, but they are not carnivores either. They eat berries and such. Oh, I just remembered, I have tried seal. And didn't like it. I didn't like the fishy flavour. Tue Nov 11 06:30:44 -0800 2008 4163162 139219 Sooeygun 1 4164179 My son the biologist sent me a text message a few months ago that sure sat me down. It read: "I just ate lynx" I freaked, of course. Turns out he knows someone who runs a trap line out in deepest darkest Alberta and, after skinning the lynx, they decided it would be wasteful not to eat it. So he marinated it and cooked in on the grill. He said it was ok but he's not planning to do it again. Tue Nov 11 07:12:09 -0800 2008 4163162 12383 Nyleve 1 4164312 Alligator (a carnivore) and bear (omnivore) are quite good. Dog is not that great. Have never eaten any kind of cat. Tue Nov 11 07:56:42 -0800 2008 4163162 36661 Sam Fujisaka 1 4164493 I was wondering this and my friend and I decided it came down to farming. It was easier to raise a herd of herbivores than a herd of carnivores that would eat you back. Pity the caveman who decided he wanted to raise lions. As with vegetables, we eat what our ancestors did, for the most part. And, as Sooeygun pointed out, they're not our fellow carnivores, unless you exclusively eat meat. And, some cultures do eat dog, small ones, that aren't likely to try to eat them. Tue Nov 11 08:54:22 -0800 2008 4163162 39874 chowser 1 4166813 Raising carnivores is also more feed-intensive than raising herbivores: instead of feeding on relatively plentiful vegetation, they have to be fed on the animals which eat the vegetation and then concentrate those calories into meat. So, overall, you get a smaller mass of meat at the end with the carnivores then if you were just eating the herbivores. This inefficiency could be one reason the practice of raising carnivores for food never really took off. Wed Nov 12 05:43:36 -0800 2008 4163162 87701 Lemon Curry 1 4168119 Does anyone know of any science out there and that discusses the problem with eating within ones own station of the food chain? I think I understand your question, try googling Chronic Wasting Disease, Prions. Wed Nov 12 12:53:08 -0800 2008 4163162 13661 Alan408 2 4170369 I recall that in studying the food chain, foodstuffs at the lowest levels (plants, fungi, etc) had the highest nutritional value, being chock full of essential nutrients. Going up the food chain, each consumer processes these minerals and vitamins, leaving behind meat with less nutritional value than the food it consumed, with carnivores yielding the least nutritional value. Were we to subsist solely on a diet of carnivore meat, we would likely suffer from malnourishment. Thu Nov 13 09:05:26 -0800 2008 4168119 68363 JungMann 3 4170387 Actually, for the most part nutrients get concentrated as you move up the food chain. Human populations that subsist on meat alone (e.g., the traditional Inuit) did just fine. Thu Nov 13 09:10:20 -0800 2008 4170369 36661 Sam Fujisaka 1 4169787 Matter of taste. Imagine - some hounds don't even like range fed beef and say it tastes gamey!! Other than gators, carnivore meat just doesn't taste that good. Thu Nov 13 05:33:04 -0800 2008 4163162 36661 Sam Fujisaka 2 4170695 General question...now many farmers feed pigs "slop" that can be waste from many sources..I remember the "pig man" scavenging the edible waste from the mess hall when I worked for Uncle Sam. If a pig is eating beef garbage does that make it a carnivores? and if they are eating pork garbage are they cannibals?? Thu Nov 13 10:22:26 -0800 2008 4169787 11562 Hue 3 4170722 Pigs are omnivorous. Also, I may be wrong, but I believe a lot of industrial agriculture gets (or got) fed "itself", not just pigs. Thu Nov 13 10:28:51 -0800 2008 4170695 10832 Humbucker 1 4171070 Are not dogs omnivorous. Mine certainly is. Thu Nov 13 12:08:47 -0800 2008 4163162 68319 Sinicle