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Check out the new place right off the #7 Train , called Roosevelt Food Mall

Mongolian "samsa" are very tasty..get the baked version

Also, Taiwanese Temple Snacks... menu is Chines only, sorry..based on Taiwans big city outside Taipei with the Buddhist Temple .very unusual and quite tasty

Other yums, have not tried yet

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  1. Link to another thread on Roosevelt Food Court:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/569543

    1. I tried the Sichuan stall tonight. They serve a mighty fine dan dan mian.
      But I was eying the big steel bowls of Korean noodles the couple next to me were eating (naeng myun?). Next time.

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      1. re: Joe MacBu

        Agreed, those are some good dan dan mian. Not as much of the flowery sichuan peppercorn flavor as I sometimes like, but very good nevertheless. As an added bonus, the woman who runs the stall is really nice and speaks enough English to carry on an informative conversation.

      2. Could our lovely Hounds try to detail (for us newbies) names/locations of stalls within the mall, as we fo? Or is it more obvious then at 41-28? Thanks!

        By the way, for those coming by the #7, who are not old hands in Flushing - I found that, even with a map, I needed to ask someone to orient me when I got out of the subway (a not uncommon experience in the city!) But once I knew how my map matched the streets, it was very easy to find everything!

        1. Serious Eats had an interesting report on this place a couple weeks ago ... http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2008/1...

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          Roosevelt Food Court
          135-28 Roosevelt Ave, Queens, NY 11354

          1. Buddha Belly, what did you eat at the Taiwanese place?

            Scanned menus from Temple Snacks/Snake:

             
             
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            1. re: Joe MacBu

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              1. re: Joe MacBu

                We went to Temple Snacks today and I was very pleased. Being from Taiwan, I miss the variety of Taiwanese street food but can rarely get my fix. Temple Snacks did a great job with the dishes I ordered today (namely, Bamboo shoots and pork belly over rice, Taiwanese stir-fried rice noodles, Fried chicken roll, and Taiwanese burger) , and the way the staff all spoke Taiwanese and played tacky Taiwanese music in the background just makes me homesick.

                The owner told me that business is not great (even though when we went around 6:30/7pm on a Saturday night there were quite a few customers). Apparently people don't really come through until evening, and then mostly on the weekends. This is not good news -- I want them to do well and stay in business so I can continue to get my fix!! So, as a matter of public service, I've translated the food (not drinks) menu to the best of my ability and posted it below.

                A few notes:

                1. The "herbs" in what I call "pork ribs and Chinese herbs soup" are the Chinese medicinal herbs, not cilantro, thyme, scallions and the like. It's supposed to be good for you, but it's an acquired taste. If you know you don't like Chinese medicinal herbs, you probably won't like this.

                2. "Qie-zai" noodles refers to a type of very simple noodle dish from Tainan, Taiwan. The basic idea is to bring together boiled noodles, blanched bean sprouts (and maybe some other vegetables), and a light sauce in a bowl. Temple Snacks offers them dry or in a soup.

                3. The "Spanish Mackerel soup/noodle soup" and "Meat soup/noodle soup" are two variations on the same idea. It's basically thin strips of pork or fish battered with fish paste, and then cooked in a corn starch-thickened soup. Okay, I know it doesn't sound tasty, but it actually is. The soup is usually based on pork or seafood stock, and has bonito, shitake, bamboo shoots, and cilantro in it, although I have not tried Temple's version so will have to report back on what exactly they put in theirs.

                4. Tempura here is not the light and fried version you think of, but rather something battered and fried, then usually cooked in a soup. Think somewhere between soft and chewy.

                5. Don't ask me what the assortment of appetizers consist of -- I don't know because the menu doesn't say. It's what we call "hei-bai-qie," which literally means cut-up whatever. It's whatever appetizers are available that day, cut up and arranged on a plate. Usually something like braised seaweed, braised pig's intestines, braised pig's ears, etc.

                6. And finally, a plug for the "Taiwanese burger." It's a generous piece of braised pork belly and pickled vegetables sandwiched in a white, tender bun, seasoned with a little sauce, peanut powder, and a little cilantro. It's delicious, and not something I see in a lot of restaurants, so go get yourself one now!!

                1. re: Arete

                  wait they have gua bao here??? oh thank you, ive been looking for a proper gua bao for a while

                  1. re: Arete

                    Arete, thank you for the tip, the menus and the translation!! I just visited Temple Snacks this weekend and had the Taiwanese burger (assuming it'd be something like the ground pork and scallion patties between mantou doohickeys my mom used to make). Those were really quite wonderful. It would be great if Temple were to go Shake Shack with those. There is a burger I would stand in line, outside (and even occasionally hop on the #7) for!

                    1. re: Arete

                      Arete,
                      That's awesome! I wish I'd had your translation when I wrote the Serious Eats article. Can't wait to try the pork belly burger.

                      Keep on smokin',
                      Joey Deckle

                    2. re: Joe MacBu

                      Sorry - the file was too big. I posted the picture to flickr instead:

                      http://www.flickr.com/photos/confucio...

                      1. re: Arete

                        Excellent. Thanks very much for the translation and the detailed review.
                        P.

                      2. re: Joe MacBu

                        Or try this compressed jpg image:

                         
                        1. re: Arete

                          ah they do have gua bao, i just saw this pic of the menu

                      3. re: Joe MacBu

                        LOL It's a bad English translation, I believe "Snakes" should be"Shakes", that menu in Chinese is for Bubble Drinks

                        1. re: Buddha Belly

                          here is a photo of item # 1 on the temple snacks menu

                          bamboo, bok choy and pork belly

                          it was great

                          1. re: chefjellynow

                            no pic?

                            im going there on sunday, so excited to try

                            1. re: Lau

                              Just had item #1 from Temple Snacks on Wednesday. It was delicious!!! Normally I don't eat pork belly but these were so tender, moist and just plain tasty. The pork's seasoning is the best I've had in sometime. The used fresh bamboo not canned, bonus point for that.

                              Ate at Muslim Kebob place, pretty good. Not as good as the stall on 41st Ave but better then the other stands in Flushing. Ordered 2 chicken and 1 lamb kebob. Toddler ate most of chicken kebob despite one being spicy and kept saying, "it's good, hmm..." I was curious about the pull tea. Has anyone had that style (Xianjin, muslim?) pull tea before?

                              I also had the fish dumpling and open end chives dumpling at Wojia. The Korean stall at Flushing mall is better. The open end dumping was interesting in its presentation but the flavor was not extrodinary.

                              Ordered the fried bing and On myun at Han Song Ting (the Korean place at the end). On Myun was OK but the bing was awsome. It was fill with yellow chives and pork. The dough must have rice flour in it because the texture was chewy and slightly sweet. I ordered two bing which they cut in half (4 pieces) by the time I came back from picking up food from other stall, only 1 piece was left. My toddler and HB loved it. Plus they were super friendly. Will go back next visit.

                              Also ate at the noodle stall across from Sczheun place. It's kind of an assemble your own noodle place. We call it little push cart noodle in HK. Pick the noodle and then what you want in it. I picked beef brisket, marinated chicken wings and turnips. Kind of like Hong Kong Station in Chinatown. Soup base was good.Chicken wing, non-memorable as is the turnip. The brisket was tender and flavorful. They also convinced me to but a fried bing from them. It wasn't very good. It had Chinese chives, dried shrimp, glass noodle and I think peanuts in it. The dough was not good and tasted raw and the filling was too salty.

                              I wanted to try the flourescent pink bun/mochi thing at Temple snack but I was too full and HB needed a live person to help pushing the second stroller. Will return this weekend and venture to other stalls to try bubble tea and pink mochi thing (is that Guo Bao)? The owner at Temple snack also told HB they will have English menu next week. I think they took Arete's advise. I hope this will help them stay in business. Good pork belly deserves a place in Flushing.

                              1. re: Lau

                                Several of us intend to be there at noon as well. If you're there, we should be easy to spot. Introduce yourself.

                                1. re: Lau

                                  Wow, this food court had some fantastic stuff! It's a great place to go with a group of people who want to get a bunch of different things and share them. I won't forget those pork bing any time soon. Or the fish dumplings. That Uighur rice pilaf was good too, with its liberally-applied, addictive oil. (That came with little chunks of lamb which were nothing special; the pilaf, and the side salad of vegetables and glass noodles, were the real attractions.) And the spicy Sichuan diced tofu and peanut dish was amazing. And there was a good cold dish of strips of tofu -- I think this came from the noodle stall across from the Sichuan stall. Those were the most impressive and memorable items. And the dan dan noodles were good. I also liked the sticky glutinous green tea dessert with a bit of mung bean or red bean paste inside, though a few bites of that were more than enough.

                                  Next time I'll have to try the Taiwanese "burger." I don't think any of us got it, or if anyone did, then I didn't notice, unless I'm taking the "burger" concept too literally. I'm not sure if I actually tried anything from the Taiwanese stall. I had a few bites of a lot of different things, but many of them are blurring together now.

                                  1. re: Ike

                                    PK, my lucky fellow and sister Hounds who descended on the food court - Ike's descriptions were mouth watering, but could anyone give more specifics abt what came from where? When I get down to the Big Apple from the frozen north, I may well be traveling solo - and it makes it so much easier to find things if you know where to look for what! Thanks...

                                    1. re: fredid

                                      First stall walking in on the left was the meat samsas. I had these first (immediately upon entering actually) and liked them a lot. The guy is a character and it cut my appetite nicely so that I could then pace myself a little. I noticed that someone also bought a large bread from him. A cross between naan and the Turkish large round breads (a big bialy?). At any rate, directly across (1st stall on the right) had a nice long menu and everyone seemed to get different things that they'll weigh in on.... I got the red beet colored dessert "ravioli" with either peanut paste or red bean paste inside (well, I asked for the peanut and it tasted a little peanut-y but more bean paste-y.... too many people crowding around to ask). Good though. Two for two so far. Further in on that same side, there's the place that has the bings (very good, especially at $1 each, made on the spot) and a number of cold sides in containers. I got a container of boiled peanuts with some red peppers & carrots... not spicy and basically eh. The seaweed with some hot green peppers was tastier but still not worth the effort. Since we passed stuff around, these sides worked well in trade though and I had some good dried bean curd that someone else had bought. Directly across from this booth was the booth with the long pork & chive dumplings, open on the ends and freshly made fried dumplings. Had both and both were very good. I also managed to taste (hey, I was hungry and you all were generous) some noodle dishes that were good (unknown otherwise) and some of Dave's "breakfast platter" (there was something wrapped in dried bean curd sheets that was good on that platter). The piece of pork belly I tasted was decent as well.

                                      I wasnt sure how Dave and the other meetup folks were going to get over 20 people into a Flushing food court but this new one opens up into a nice square dining area in back with tables, chairs and counters/stools that held us all and were perfect for sitting around. Since the place is very new, things are well lit and clean, with new nice bathrooms as well. A nice change from wandering around J&L Mall, but I'll still miss that one.

                                      First real event I've gone to with these folks (I eat out with Dave "eatingintranslation" Cook pretty often so I at least knew him... then Ike was there as well so it was almost a CH thing) and it was nicely organized. Thanks for doing this. Now I can go back with my CH and other food board friends in a nice manageable 6-8 person group to explore further.

                                      fredid... let us know if you want company when you come in.

                                      1. re: Steve R

                                        Ah, sounds like I missed a great opportunity to meet some hound. We didn't make it to the court until 4 pm. JR was sleeping in car so I took toddler with me to buy some food. Had cut noodle dish, fried pork chop w. rice and pink mochi dessert from Temple snack. DO NOT ORDER THE PORk CHOP. I had hope it was along the line of MayWah pork Chop (RIP) of Chinatown but it was a greasy, bready, bland, tough piece of meat. I had no idea what they used for bread crumbs (Ritz or Saltine crackers) but it was just...I will use all my will to forget about the pork chop. The noodle is very good as is the pink mochi thing (mung bean).

                                        Was carrying toddler when she moved my head (with both hands) towards direction of Muslim meat stall and said "meat on stick". Wanted to tried the platter but was inform they were put of pilaf. Tried samosa, made with lamb, very good. Slightly gamey but juicy and full of unrecognizable spices. Ordered chicken Kebob, 2 spicy, 1 non spicy. don't know what they tasted like since toddler and husband ate it all in car while I waited for food.

                                        Had Jia Jiang Mein at Korean. Not good. Sauce was OK but their were strange large chunks of meat and POTATO(?!) in it. Took 3 bit and decided it was not worth the caloric intake. Also tried flower bun, bland. Kimchi was good. Stall owner was very friendly. She recognized me from last time and remembered what I ordered last time. For that I will venture to her stall next time. The bing is excellent.

                                        Steve R, please give a heads up on next group venture to Flushing eating excursion.

                                        1. re: PaMa

                                          Actually, you will find potato in home-cooked versions of jia jiang myun though I have never encountered it at a restaurant. Perhaps it's because I grew up with it, but I loved the potato and noodle combo.

                                    2. re: Ike

                                      Ike it is was really great meeting you...glad you had success at Chengdu stall in the Golden Shopping Mall. Hope your Mom enjoys the grub. I wasn't feeling so hot at Roosevelt Food Court I think I may have ingested some bad home-brewed beer last night. In any case it was cool to see so many people enjoying great regional Chinese goodies.

                                      1. re: Ike

                                        i think the burger description is somewhat confusing b/c i think alot of people expect some sort of ground meat patty

                                        its a reasonably common taiwanese street snack. It's basically a steamed white bun with a stewed pork belly in the middle (some of the stands in taiwan actually let u pick how fatty u want it) garnished with pickled vegetables, ground peanut and sometimes they put this sort of brown sugar type stuff on it. For some reason its reasonably hard to find in NY...for most people the most accessible place is if u have been to any of david chang's restaurants (momofuku's) in the city they serve a pork bun that is based on it and tastes similar (although not as good)....it is my all time favorite street food and u really should try it

                                        1. re: Lau

                                          Re: the "burger". First stand on the right, coming in from Roosevelt. There are pictures above the counter & one of the white bun ones is what's being described as the this "burger" (I think, based on my trips to Chang's Ssam Bar and Lau's description). At any rate, they were out of them when we were there.

                                      2. re: Lau

                                        here is the photo, i really thought it attached

                                         
                                2. I would return to Temple Snacks for the floor show alone. Watching one of the women behind the counter toss about 40 slabs of that fatty pork belly into a gargantuan, sizzling hot wok was , indeed, an awesome sight. My wife likens the pork belly they use to the kind used in the Japanese dish, Buta No Kaku Ni, and I see what she means. It's thick, tender, fatty and tasty. I liked it most, in its' simplicity, as part of the bamboo shoot dish (the already-reknowned #1 on the menu), which, as a whole, is a great bargain meal. I thought its' simple power was somewhat diminished with the Taiwanese burger; for me, those sweet shavings dried it out to the point where the pork taste was dwarfed and dried out by sawdust. But then, that's me - I like to keep it simple, unfettered. A good example - I don't put ketchup on cheeseburgers - but I digress. The burger is worth it; I highly recommend that people try it. Without those sweet shavings, I would have liked it a whole lot more. I'd also like to try the samsa right across the way, and some of that yogurt. That is, if I can tear myself away from Temple Snack's large, diverse and tantalizing menu.

                                  P.

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                                  1. re: Polecat

                                    We just returned to the Roosevelt Food Mall last night and found a few new additions:

                                    Temple Snacks now has not 1, but 2 English menus posted on the wall in front of the stall. The items are all numbered so ordering by number should be no problem. However, the menus only include items on their regular food (not drinks) item, and does not include seasonal specials, such as 麻油雞 (sesame oil chicken) and 紅豆/花生湯 (red bean or peanut soup) 紅豆/花生湯圓 (red bean or peanut rice balls), none of which I got to try last night. (Waiting for reviews from follow Chowhounds.)

                                    But more importantly, the dumpling stall (我家食坊), which is the last stall on the left opposite the Korean-Chinese stall, now has homemade rice milk (米漿)!!!! Unlike the pathetic white stuff that comes in a paper carton from your local grocery store/health food store, what we're talking about here is a thick, brown sweet liquid made of rice and roasted peanuts, served hot or cold (only hot at the dumpling stall, but I suppose you could take it home and put it in your fridge), usually as an alternative to soy milk at breakfast. Until now, I've only found this drink in cans or bottles at the Chinese grocery stores, which are worthy substitutes, but never been able to find the freshly made variety. So I say, unless you have a peanut allergy, get ye to the dumpling stall at the Roosevelt Food Mall and try this special Taiwanese drink.

                                    Between the stalls in this food court and Yi Mei Fang Bakery a few doors up the street, Roosevelt Avenue has now become my Taiwanese food heaven!

                                    1. re: Arete

                                      finally made it to this food court today with a noisy assortment of about 12 kids and adults. Forgot to read this thread before I went, so when the dumpling place presented us with a cup/bowl of the liquid brown stuff, i didn't know what it was. but the guys said rice milk and i say, yum!
                                      I have to say, every proprietor we dealt with at this mall was v. v. friendly. I'd go back just for the friendly factor alone, but there were some great eats as well.

                                      muslim stall--loved the samsas, which were fresh and great. the kebabs were eh, and some were underdone. i'd try again but ask for well-done skewers. didn't try the plov. guys running it was very friendly.

                                      szechuan stall--hands down the best dan dan noodles i've had. noodles had some chew, nice and spicy, a fair amount of the pickled veg. the peanut, tofu, and scallion cold app was a winner, too. however, the dumplings/wontons in chili oil from this place were not good at all. no one in our group liked them and we ended up throwing most of them away. people running the stall nice here as well.

                                      dumpling stall--loved the fish dumplings and the open-ended pan fried pork and chive ones. beef roll was okay but not something i'd waste stomach space on again; didn't like the corn dumplings. we had an order of the veggie dumplings also, but i didn't try them, so can't comment on that. after we ordered a second round of dumplings, the man came to the back where the tables are and handed us the bowl of rice milk. we didn't know what it was, but it was delicious. they were very friendly and helpful here, as they were everywhere. as i was walking out, saw people sitting at the counter eating a meal of rice milk, dumplings, and bamboo shoots or cold marinated tofu. looks like the perfect meal.
                                      someone else in the party got bings--i didn't really like these that much. they weren't bad, but in terms of meat patty i much preferred the samsa.

                                      for those of you who have never been to a flushing food mall or food court and are feeling intimidated, i think this is a great one to start with. the people running the stalls are particularly helpful and friendly, esp compared to golden shopping mall (not that they are unfriendly there, just not super-helpful always) and the place is cleaner and newer. that said, it doesn't have the xian eats stall with the lamb burger and the chewy noodles, perhaps the two most amazing dishes i've had at any food mall in flushing. and also, i think the dumplings at the golden mall stall are better than the ones at the roosevelt mall. tho they're different, so perhaps it's like comparing apples to oranges.

                                  2. tried the burger today, wow very good, nice change it is #41 on menu

                                    i took a pic as usual

                                     
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                                    1. re: chefjellynow

                                      I went tonight to try it. Yes, that is one tasty burger.

                                      1. re: designerboy01

                                        I'm about to dig into one from gu-xiang ($2). yum!

                                        1. re: bigjeff

                                          Is that one much smaller than the one from the stall? Because #41 was $4.

                                          1. re: Miss Needle

                                            oh it is a monster. huge. takes up almost an entire takeout container, not petite at all. delicious of course; two hunks of pork, the powdered sugar, peanuts, suan-cai, etc. yum. granted, not fresh from the steamer so the bread wasn't as nice (it's about two hours old). this is from the takeout counter that gu-xiang has set up now; they have a ton of stuff for a buck or two or three.

                                            1. re: bigjeff

                                              Oh, I think you're talking about the take-out place next to it. Last time I was there, there was a whole bunch of stuff but I didn't see the Taiwanese burger. Thanks for the info. I'll probably get it to go and heat it up as it's kind of a pet peeve of mine to eat food that's lukewarm.

                                              btw, I tried that bao zi that people were raving about there. I didn't really enjoy it -- I'm thinking it was because it was probably cold, but I also thought there was way too much soy sauce in it.

                                              1. re: Miss Needle

                                                same owners, just want to get on the "street" trend i guess. they have the generic "meat sauce" for sale (the rich one that you eat over rice or put over noodles, "zhou-zhao", which is also quite good.

                                                1. re: bigjeff

                                                  Ah! So that's the set up. I wasn't sure if they were just renting the space to another business.

                                                  What's zhou-zhao? Is that the meat sauce you're referring to? Or is it something else?

                                    2. so i hit the foodcourt today after dim sum at Jade Asian. I intentionally didn't eat much at dim sum so that i could try the gua bao at Roosevelt Food Mall.

                                      the menu itself looks very promising and i'm going to have to come back here one day and try more items. the mall is also much nicer than the golden mall and seemingly more friendly although i dont really care about that if the food is great haha. i was very curious about that kebab place b/c the guy running it spoke perfect chinese, but i never wouldve guessed he was chinese if asked me, i probably wouldve guessed he was some of eastern european if u just randomly pointed him out, i thought it was cool.

                                      anyhow, onto the gua bao, so i ordered it and took it to the back to eat it. The verdict is that it was very good and the closest to the real thing ive had in NY. Theirs was pretty big probably bigger than the ones in taiwan. The bun was good...fresh and tasty although not quite as light and fluffy as the ones in taiwan and it was thicker. The pork itself was very good albeit a bit on the fatty side (slightly too fatty), but it had been stewed for a whlie and was very tender. The condiments were good as well, ground peanuts, suan cai (pickled vegetable) and I believe they put a little bit of the sweet brown sugar type stuff on it (i forget what its called). Anyhow, if u want to know how its prepared in taiwan, this is it. It's not quite as flavorful as the real thing, but a good rendition nonetheless and MUCH better than the other renditions ive had in NY...highly recommend and ill be coming back soon

                                      1. I've been far too busy this time back in NY to post, but I really had to get something together so here goes...

                                        The Uighur stall (first on the left as you enter) is absolutely magnificent. I am so happy to have it as an addition to the area and I adore the family that runs it. Upon walking up, I first thought "Naaah they must be Uzbek. I never meet Uighurs." But nope. Straight out of Urumqi. They speak Uighur behind the counter and I've seen him shock many a Chinese customer with his origin and the fact that he can speak Mandarin (a Taiwanese guy last night was practically in awe of the fact the he was from Xinjiang.)

                                        Onto the more important stuff! I would rate his kebabs, plov (pilau), and shurpa on par with or beyond what is served at Cheburechnaya (which is an Uzbek Russian place) and well beyond what you can get at Kashkar (NY's only other properly Uighur place, though the owners are mixed Uighur-Uzbek as they left Chinese Turkestan to escape the repressive climate.) The menu is small and simple, but the 1 dollar samsa are delicious (barring the occasional chewy piece. Hey, it's a dollar.) Also, the kebabs have been consistently delicious. The only thing one could ask for is a widened menu and that will come. He said he's going to start making lagman (both fry and soup) as the weather gets even colder!

                                        Ultimately, this place is not only better than many of its competitors but some items are lower than half price! Samsa are 2.50 at Kashkar with no noticeable improvement (I think his dough is far better, their filling marginally better.) The plov and salad at Eyili is only 4 dollars while it's 7 and up at the competitors. This place is not to be missed.

                                        Also, it's not for everyone but give the butter tea a try. You'll have to ask for it specifically if his wife is there (she didn't think I would like it) but I think it's great. Yeah, it feels like you're drinking a heart attack, but imagine you're about to herd sheep all day long.

                                        The Korean Chinese place is nice as well. Their rice cakes in a thick spicy broth are yummy and brought me back to my childhood hangout (I pretty much lived a year of my life in a Queens internet cafe in which the Korean owners would invite me into the back for dinner every night. They made that dish a lot.)

                                        Happy chowing, drinking, celebrating, Christmasing, Channukahing, Eid Mubarrak but that's almost a month late, and happy new year

                                        Justin

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                                        1. re: JFores

                                          yeah i heard them speaking uighur, ive never heard it before and it sounds very different, i figured it mustve been some western chinese dialect b/c one of their relatives or friends came up and was talking to them

                                          i want to try his plov b/c i really like plov

                                          what is the butter tea called? or do they speak english?

                                          1. re: Lau

                                            His English is good enough, he speaks proper Chinese, and his daughter has a full blown Queens accent so communication is a breeze. I order my chicken kebabs well down, but the lamb kebabs seem to come out fine without that, btw. Just say butter tea. I've heard it called just chai there (hence the issue, his wife figured to just give me tea thinking I wouldn't like it), but the guys at Kashkar in Brighton call it something different (they toss a different word in front of it.) I'd assume that it would normally be made with extremely thick fresh cream, but they use butter, cream, milk, and a pinch of salt to compensate for the dairy here.

                                            1. re: JFores

                                              ah i just looked it up in wikipedia, its called "su you cha", i dont know what su means, but i think its the same character as the "su" in "su bing" (a flaky turnip pastry thing).."you" = oil and "cha" = tea

                                              1. re: JFores

                                                Try the lamb hearts skewers (if you havent already). This family deserves a restaurant. And my guess is that they'll have one. And that I'll be a regular.

                                                1. re: Steve R

                                                  I'm all for them having a restaurant, as long as they keep their stall. I love being able to have samsas, kebabs, and dan dan noodles all in one meal.

                                                  I agree wih JF--def ask for the chicken kebabs well done, but it doesn't matter for the lamb.

                                                  1. re: Steve R

                                                    They could open a Lamb Hearts place right next to Eton Dumplings in Carroll Gardens. We live in the age of specialization.

                                                  2. re: JFores

                                                    We stopped in today, turns out he speaks good English, proper Chinese, and a bit of Korean, as he demonstrated to a Korean guy. Really friendly guy, and we met his wife, too. He made us some liver kebabs.

                                                    My god.

                                                    It was like foie gras on a stick. We had our minds blown, eating these tiny pieces of liver on a skewer, in the hallway. So good.

                                                    1. re: kathryn

                                                      7 of us were there today from noon-1:30 or so, eating an assortment of things. Among them, I had both the lamb's liver and the ox liver skewers. Very good. He gave us some "cow's feet" to try, which were basically just gelatin & not much of anything. I'll stick to the skewers and samsas. He promises to have lagman soon. Other new favorites from some of the stalls included mung bean noodles in a hot oil with pieces of meat and the dan dan noodles, which I thought were every bit as good as any at Spicy & Tasty or the Szech place in Bay Ridge. Also tried the fish dumplings from the last stall (same place as the long pork/scallion dumplings, which are good)... these were eh.

                                                      1. re: Steve R

                                                        Ha, bet we just missed you. We were a large group of about 10 who were there around 2pm. My friends got some other skewers and yogurt, but I was too occupied with my #41 from Temple Snacks. The gua bao. So good. And so tempting that a woman walking in stopped and asked me what I was eating, and then immediately ordered two.

                                                        1. re: kathryn

                                                          English Temple Snacks menu
                                                          http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathryn/...

                                                          Gua Bao (the thing is massive
                                                          )http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathryn/...

                                                        2. re: Steve R

                                                          As you predicted, Steve, after we parted I did return to the food court, though only after a decent interval. I liked the chili oil mung bean noodles, though from the same stall (with the photos of Jamie Oliver's visit) I would have liked to try the bright yellow mung bean blocks in chili oil, which weren't available. (Earlier, I polished off the last of the "cow's feet" by swabbing them in hot sauce, you may have noticed.)

                                                          I also ordered the sesame beef roll from the last stall on the left (B5, home of those fish dumplings, and Chinese squash dumplings that i'm still waiting to try); it's a nice, mild-mannered snack. Robert Sietsema's writeup of the mall noted (per Jonathan Gold) that the beef roll originated in Shandong; I'll add, since I asked the owners, that they emigrated from Taiwan.

                                                          In what was may have been an editing error, Sietsema's writeup swaps the stall numbers for B3 and B5, which explains why I couldn't procure an English menu, or that beef roll, when we were seated together: Stall B3 just serves noodle soup. From their business card, however, I learned that their previous address (long after Liaoning, in China) had been the Shi Hong Mall, at 41-42 Main St., which had briefly been the second home to the Golden Mall's lamb burger joint, before Shi Hong was shuttered. Glad to know these folks found new digs.

                                                          1. re: DaveCook

                                                            Not "sesame beef roll"; it's called "scallion pie with beef." It's more like a scallion pancake, rolled around sliced beef and a cucumber spear.

                                                            1. re: DaveCook

                                                              that beef roll looked delicious, but i wasn't blown away by it. much prefer other things at that place.

                                                              and steve r., as i mentioned in a previous post, i think those dan dan noodles are the best i've had in the city--better than spicy and tasty or grand sichuan or chengdu heaven in the golden mall. haven't had little pepper's yet, but if someone says they're better than these, i'll be sure to get there. These dan dan noodles just had a great balance of spicy (i found them spicier than the others) oil, and preserved veg.
                                                              have you had the peanut and tofu app from the same place? it's also great.

                                                              1. re: missmasala

                                                                Don't forget Golden Szechuan next to Little Pepper. They make great Szechuan food there and they can make it spicy if you tell them.

                                                                1. re: missmasala

                                                                  I think they use a different kind of noodle, they are chewier and yellower than dan dan noodles usually are, which is a plus for me, I usually find the noodles too soft for my taste. I was with SteveR's and Dave Cook's group. I too liked the mung bean noodles, the samsa, there were some buns with pork in them that I liked a lot (but I like doughy), but I think my favorite thing was the dan dan noodles. The dumplings were good but didn't knock my socks off the way the ones from great northern (is that what it's called?) did...I know they are a different kind of dumpling though.

                                                                  1. re: prunefeet

                                                                    yes, they are chewier and yellower, which i prefer, as i often find them too soft for my taste as well (this is my problem with the ones at chengdu heaven.) but they are also spicier than i've had elsewhere, even tho i always ask for them to be spicy or super ma la.
                                                                    I've been thinking a lot about those dan dan noodles since i had them--will have to go back for a fix soon!

                                                              2. re: DaveCook

                                                                A commenter on my blog, who signed in only as E, wrote that the Shi Hong Mall has reopened with a couple of stalls, including one that prepares "knife-chipped noodles." Though I'm sure he's just assigning a different name to what are more often called peel noodles, or sometimes knife-sliced noodles, "chipped" has an especially handcrafted feel -- like napping flints.

                                                      2. re: JFores

                                                        thanks for the holiday greetings jfores, been meaning to hit this place up and that was a great post. I've had those samsa as takeout (my sister bought 'em home) but ya, really looking forward to hitting this place up sometime.

                                                      3. Swung by today en route from work. Had a great, tender and spicy lamb kebab at the Uighur stall, as well as a near-great, fatty and tender liver kebab. The chicken was okay, but bland and tasteless by comparison. The spicy seasoning is inspired. I also enjoyed a fresh Samsa, which I scarfed down as I waited for my kebabs.

                                                        Then it was on to the Sichuan stall, where I got Dan Dan Mien, pork dumplings in chili oil and rabbit stew, also in chili oil, to go. Naturally, when it came to the noodles and dumplings, they lost their luster somewhat in transport and in passage of time. That said, still quite good. Both had bite, with the dumplings combining the sweet and the hot. The stew, however, was the winner. Little chunks of bone-on, chewy and tender bunny, mixed in with seemingly hundreds of peanuts. Highly recommended.

                                                        Question: While waiting for my take-out at the Sichuan stall, I watched the counter guy mixing what looked to be a sweet, red liquid concoction in a big glass jar. He was slicing a greenish yellow fruit - I was going to guess Quince, but that's probably way off - huge round slices into the red liquid, before adding generous portions of sugar. As I couldn't communicate with the guy, I wasn't able to get any info. Can anyone tell, albeit from my poor man's description, just what this elixir is?

                                                        Also, is it just the cold weather playing tricks with my cranium, or did I spy two photos of Jaime Oliver on the wall? Has it come to this: Food Network hallucinations in Chinatown?
                                                        P.

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                                                        1. re: Polecat

                                                          Yup, those were definitely Jamie Oliver! Hilarious, huh?

                                                          http://www.the-feedbag.com/a-feedbag-...

                                                        2. confused--- the dan dan is at the jamie oliver poster stall? they didnt seem to have any clue what i was talkingabout...but i DID get a killer bowl of beef and noodles from the stall directly across the aisle with absolutly no english and another #41 from temple snax woohoo

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                                                          1. re: chefjellynow

                                                            I remember there was a picture of the dan dan noodles if you face the stall and its on the upper left. You can point to it.

                                                            1. re: chefjellynow

                                                              Yes, dan dan noodles from the Jamie Oliver stall, where they also have the mung bean noodles.

                                                              1. re: prunefeet

                                                                I went, on Thursday to get some great lamb kabobs from the Uighur stall and was saddened to see that he has closed. The folks at Temple Snacks thought his low prices did him in.

                                                                1. re: wew

                                                                  That really is too bad - the kebabs were great.

                                                                  This is all the more reason for anyone who is at all curious to check these stalls out; It's not like Temple Snacks is all that expensive either.
                                                                  p.

                                                                  1. re: wew

                                                                    *wails*

                                                                    Dammit! His kabobs were so delicious!

                                                                    1. re: wew

                                                                      wow he closed already?? damn it, i never got to try it

                                                                      1. re: wew

                                                                        What a shame. The kebabs were good, but the baked samsas and pilau were the stars for me. BTW, when I visited he was saying something about a restaurant that I should go visit. Unfortunately, the language barrier prevented me from understanding exactly where it was.

                                                                        Hopefully, Temple Snacks stays open. That gua bao is one of the most insanely rich and decadent things I've ever had. So good, but I don't know how anyone could eat more than one every week or so.

                                                                        P.S. Which stall has the shar bing? The language barrier thwarted my efforts to find it.

                                                                        1. re: kdgchow

                                                                          The nice folks who ran the Guizhou stall at J and L before it closed then at 41-42 before it closed are now here at 3B( or is it 4B-- around there). To review the bidding they have lamb and beef soup which I usually have with rice noodles. The broth is light, a bit of chili oil is very good in it.

                                                                          1. re: wew

                                                                            Do you mean the stall with great lamb noodle soup you described here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/578459? Thanks!

                                                                            1. re: fredid

                                                                              No, fredid, this is definitely a different set of folks. Navigating the Flushing food court flux is, indeed, a tangled web, but I'm pretty sure the original "flat lamb noodle soup" vendor, from the Golden mall, has reopened as Qin's Noodles on 41st (check your linked thread for an exact address), and some new folks have opened in the old space at GM across from the hairdresser. And they make a killer flat lamb noodle soup, so give it a go if you haven't already.

                                                                              I remember the Guizhou stall from J&L that wew is describing. They served up a decent bowl. I was actually eyeing this new stall on my last visit to the Roosevelt food court - glad to see its' some good old folks in new digs.
                                                                              P.

                                                                              1. re: fredid

                                                                                went yesterday for lamb noodle soup upstairs at golden mall and it was closed at 12:30pm not sure if it was just wednesday...didnt go back today

                                                                                1. re: chefjellynow

                                                                                  I stuck my head in yesterday but over did the pig intestines with peppers downstairs and couldn't do justice ot even a small bowl. Maybe the closed day was a post new years mental health day.

                                                                    2. Has the entire food court closed down? What happened this time?

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                                                                      1. re: JFores

                                                                        It appears a NYC DOH sticker has been plastered across the entrance. According to Kathyn who stopped by yesterday, they should be re-opened in a week. BTW the folks at Temple Snacks have said they plan to move to the Flushing Mall.

                                                                        1. re: scoopG

                                                                          Yup. As I posted on another thread...when I got there yesterday around 1pm they were definitely doing some sort of construction.

                                                                          They had their metal gate half-way down but you could see some work permits taped to the front door. My friend who got there before me said that before they put the metal gate down, you could see some DOH notices on the front door (pink, she said). They estimated re-opening in about a week.

                                                                          1. re: scoopG

                                                                            Does anyone know if the Uighur family that runs Eyili will be back? I was really well acquainted with them (they even offered me relatives as inviters for my Chinese visa!) I'd hate to see that place go. The best 4 dollar polo in New York! Also the only REALLY hardcore Uighur place in NY (right down to the ramcha) where as Kashkar in Brighton is a bit slanted due to the family's time in Uzbekistan and the Russian customer base. Still very authentic, but not quite as authentic. Eyili on the other hand is straight out of Xinjiang.

                                                                        2. Has anyone traced the where abouts of the various stalls from this place? I'm still particularly interested in the Uighur stall (I heard from a guy in DC that he went to visit family in Turkey for an extended period of time after closing.)

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                                                                          1. re: JFores

                                                                            the only one i've seen or heard about is temple taiwanese, which moved to the flushing mall (i usually go there)

                                                                            1. re: JFores

                                                                              Here's another:

                                                                              http://www.eatingintranslation.com/20...