Recommend Brands for Kitchen Remodel?
I recently purchased a 44 year old home in need of a new kitchen. I am researching mid-priced major appliance brands, but am disturbed by the posts I am finding. It seems ALL brands seem to have major issues. I will be purchasing a 23 cf or larger counter-depth refrigerator (side-by-side or freezer on the bottom); double convection ovens, built-in microwave, 36 in gas cooktop, and dishwasher all in stainless steel. Currently considering Kemore Elite, Electrolux and Kitchenaid Archetict II due to features/styling preferences. I hear horror stories about Electrolux and Kitchenaid. Is anyone happy with these brands or should I run???? Since I am purchasing all new appliances, I prefer to have 1 brand that match.
brands I can't help you with but I truely do recommend making sure you buy extended warranties depending on your budget. When we redid ours, I made sure all our Mieles, wolf, etc was covered. And the price for the extended warrant was not too bad for what it was IMO.
We never really did have any major issues with our older appliances Our previous Whirlpool washer lasted almost 20 years. Our Miele washer is the current one. We had a 1st gen Maytag Neptune and after the 2nd out of pocket post warranty repair on the unit, I junked it . The extended warrantys pay for itselfs IMO---lessons learned
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I've never bought an extended warranty on anything except my '93 Mazda RX-7 R1. I knew I was going to drive it hard.
Unless you have a brand new model or new technology (though re-inventing the wheel is hard to imagine), or you really want something where its reputation is suspect in certain areas, then I would not recommend the extended warranties as making good economic sense. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5709... (below)
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We have been happy with GE Profile electric oven, gas counter top, and above the stove microwave. We went with an Amana refrigerator and a Whirpool dishwasher. Our contractor put wood doors covers on the refrig and dishwasher to match the kitchen cabinets. We have had these for 10 years and have been happy with them.
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There have been many similar threads posted here on CH regarding this subject. A lot of people will tell you that it is very hard to buy appliances based on a single brand, because generally speaking, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to find a single brand that produces appliances across the board that are all equal in quality. Then there are all the added complications of who actually manufactures the appliance that's being sold under a particular brand name. And brands that performed well 20 years ago may or may not still be of the same quality and performance today. It actually makes me dizzy trying to follow the convoluted paths some of the companies/manufacturers have taken over the years.
Another added complication is that what works really well for one person might be the exact feature that drives another person over the edge. There are lots of places to research appliances on-line but I think one of the best things you can do at the outset is take yourself off to as many appliance dealers as you can and just look. Compare the features, decide what features are non-negotiable for you and which ones aren't, and ask a lot of questions. I think something that is especially important with ranges/cooktops is making sure you like the burner layout and that the burners have the functionality you need (i.e. burners that have high output btus, as well as true simmer capability.) (FWIW, we currently have a 2 year old GE Profile bottom freezer fridge that has been great, and a GE Cafe Range that is very new, but that I am just thrilled with so far. The DW is a 20 yr old Frigidaire that is due to be replaced soon, but I am almost certain I'm not buying a GE to replace it...)
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My appliances are all kitchenaid (we're keeping ours matchy for re-sale) and although they aren't all from the same line (some older Superba and some Architect II), I can at least say that we have never had any problems with anything. However, we're in the middle of a remodel and the microwave and dishwasher are new. The fridge and stove are a little over 5 years old. I wouldn't choose what I have again, but I was a very inexperienced cook when I chose them (also 9 months pregnant, so not exactly into diligent research). I can't, however, complain about breakdowns if that helps. For my next kitchen, I will not go with matching, I will actually take the time to do my research and go with the best of each appliance that I can afford.
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Thanks for the response. It was most helpful. I have been told that it is best not to focus on matching a brand. I understand you should look for performance and features that suit your needs. Considering I am not an expert chef (yet!..not even close!) and being mindful of the resale value of the kitchen remodel, I think a middle of the line appliance suite from Kitchenaide will fit my needs.
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I can totally understand your position about wanting the appliances to match. Your choice, and I'm sure you'll be fine. And I know you have already experienced the horror show of trying to find a company that doesn't have people howling about crappy customer service (I really think that as a general thing, customer service at most major companies these days really is horrendous.) And I hate to add to your troubles. But having personally dealt with customer service at Kitchen Aid very recently on behalf of my elderly mother with regard to a top of the line KA DW she was having trouble with, their attitude was abominable, shocking really in their complete unwillingness to make any kind of remotely reasonable attempt to make my mother a happy customer. They were clearly operating from a script, and when I had the issue escalated to a person with decision making authority, she was reading from the same darn script and was resolutely unconcerned about my mother's dissatisfaction. And it was an issue that could have been addressed fairly cheaply by KA and they just didn't care how unhappy my mother was, and they didn't care at all when I made it clear that because of their lousy attitude we would never buy another major KA appliance again, and we would make sure to tell anyone who would listen the same thing. I know this probably won't change your mind, but if you could have been a fly on the wall for the conversations I had with those people, I'll bet you would reconsider.
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You are making the same point I have heard many times lately. There goes the delimma. Customer service is one thing that can make or break a company and Whirlpool/KA seems to have a really bad rep. Thanks for your input. Perhaps I'll go w/Electrolux. I hear pretty good things about GE, but I really do not care for the looks of the Profile line (too much black plastic) and the Monogram line is a bit pricey by comparison. Still haven't purchased anything yet.
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It just made me so mad that day I spoke with those KA people, it still makes me mad just thinking about it. But if you really like the KA appliances you picked out, and you're comfortable with the track record for these appliances repair-wise, than maybe you just take the gamble and go ahead with the purchase, even though the feedback re: KA customer service hasn't been that terrific. Knock on wood, I've personally had very little trouble - relatively speaking - with any of the appliances we've bought over the years, and they have been all over the lot brandwise (although no KA major appliances.) (But I do love KA's small kitchen appliances - I adore my Pro 6 Stand Mixer, and my KA Food Processor.)
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Hopefully, I won't have to deal with customer service, but I can now say that after 2 weeks of use, I really like my Architect II dishwasher. It's a little fussy if you use too much detergent, but now that I'm used to it, it's working well. It's very quiet and I like the stainless interior. My new microwave will be here tomorrow. Hopefully it's also as nice. I don't know where you're planning to purchase from, but the Great Indoors is a Sears company (we used our Sears card), the products are delivered by Sears (for free), and the prices are cheaper than Sears. We ordered online. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Thanks for the info to everyone. Still undecided. I am convinced anyone buying major appliances are just risking purchasing poorly made products and even worse customer service. Very disheartening!
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I hear you, and also fell exactly the same way. After months of research, and debate, we just ordered not too long ago. We thought about matching everything as well, but in the end, with the prices that things cost, and the fact that aesthetically, most things can match just perfectly fine, you really should by the best appliance in the price range you choose. As someone stated in one of the forums (maybe even here) you'll never have to explain to a potential buyer why you have an 8000 dollar viking fridge. You WILL have to explain an 8000 dollar Miele one. Also, check for rebates. There are plenty of them avail. The electrolux one is up to 1500.00 if you decide you really need to match brand names. Sears has been offering a decent rebate lately. 15-20% off is a good chunk of change when you're buying 8K worth of stuff! Finally, our biggest decision was really the DW. European (no food grinder, no heated dry cycle, but extremely quiet) vs American (usually has those two features which make it louder.)
Just some food for thought. Good luck. There's a whole lotta info to digest, but don't exclude how things look, either. For the price you're paying for it, it might as well look good to you. Here's what we bought. All in stainless:
Kitchenaid DW and fridge (french door)
Electrolux Icon 30 inch double oven
Electrolux 36 gas cooktop (not Icon)
electrolux 36 inch chimney hood (not the glass one)
Some random things I remembered:
I hate Thermador cooktop knobs. They feel cheap. Same with Bosch.
Loved the dcs knobs, but I read too many horror stories.
When we opened up the electrolux icon oven, we both were excited as it lit up.
It seems that Electrolux packs some upper class options for the price.
I liked the thought of having a brand (electrolux) that was not in every home.
Kitchenaid and another big brand (can't think of the name) have some stainless cooktops with a scratch resistant coating.
Kitchenaid has a 5 burner 30 inch gas cooktop.
Knob placement on a cooktop mattered to us. Some of them had a bunch of wasted space due to knob placement.
Ge monogram is some good looking stuff, but it's pricey. Consumer Reports kinda lead me to believe that it wasn't worth it.
I have noticed at Sears Outlet stores, a lot of Fisher and Paykel ovens (returned)
I love how the Kenmore Pro oven looks. Still do. It's too expensive for what it does, and doesn't do.
Adjustable upper rack for a dishwasher is a good thing.
Ice maker, water dispenser in the door of a fridge eats up a LOT of space, and is just one more thing to break. (and usually does)
A lot of these appliances are all maade by the same company, and then a different company slaps their logo on it. Especially ovens and fridges.
Side by side fridges were not even an option for me. you can't fit trays in them, and I don't want to bend down to get a piece of fruit or get turkey for a sandwich out of a drawer. Sorry, I worked too hard to pay for this remodel, and my fridge will be what I want. I don't want no skinny fridge that has everyday stuff on the bottom. I'm tired of bending down. Screw it. And I'm not lazy - gym three times a week no matter WHAT. Even when I'm on vacation.
I want my oven at eye level. I didn't buy a wall oven to bend over to look in it.
In the end, a fridge just keeps things cold. How much better can one fridge keep things cold?
Continuous grates on a cooktop are a good idea.
Again, just food for thought. Maybe it helps you. Hope it does. It was kinda overwhelming, and I'm still worried we'll get a lemon, or that we made the wrong choice, but, it was also fun doing research, and narrowing down the choices. When we crossed something off the list, we could just ignore it if we saw it on sale, or saw a floor model at a great price. I saw a fisher/Paykel brand new floor model 30 inch double oven for like 1400 bux. Didn't care. Didn't want it. Same with a thermador 36 in gas cooktop. 800 bucks. Don't care. Don't want it. Found a Kitchenaid Pro Oven for 1600 bux. Don't want it. Whne the things we wanted popped up at great prices, we pounced with little regret. Have fun with it. Go to your appliance stores in the area every so often to check on floor model sales. got any appliance outlet stores? Maybe you find an awesome brand new fridge with a dent on the side under full warranty. If you plan on putting panels on the sides, who cares?
Hope it all works out!
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I have heard that Fisher and Paykel dishwashing drawers have had a very high incidence of returns, and that depending upon where you live, parts may be harder to get than others.
Maybe it might be best to avoid buying things that are made that far away.
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we've had our FP dishwasher for a couple year, my sister had one a couple years ahead of me. So far, neither of us has had any problems. Not to say they are worry free, just my experience
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the importance whole customer service issue should cannot be overestimated. when your stuff breaks, nothing is worse than a company who doesn't care (bosch/thermador). One problem with having a kitchen full of appliances from the same manufacturer is that you are stuck with that manufacturer. when we had issues with non-working thermdor ovens, and thermador blew us off for a year, we were thankful we didn't have to deal with them for everything else. eventually we demanded a full refund, got one, and now there isn't a single thermador appliance in our house. i'd want to pull my eyeballs out if I still had 3 other thermador appliances here.
i mixed and matched, and i certainly think everything looks like it fits together. the hood is doesn't have a badge on it, so it goes with anything. the microwave isn't entirely visible, not that it would matter, and the ovens and cooktop go fine together.
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But, is the service from Sears? Their service is HORRIBLE with a capital H!!! Between having two homes, I can't begin to tell you the number of Kenmore appliances I have. I f you don't have a problem with them fine, but if you do, good luck. I will never purchase another appliance from them. I am just replacing their dishwasher with a Miele,and have heard only good things about it.
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I second the recommendation on extended warranties for expensive appliances. You may also have a Homeowner Warranty option, but you need to read that very carefully.
For example, it did not cover the ice maker on my refrigerator. On some models, that is a $1200 repair. It did cover a complete rebuild of my Kenmore (Whirlpool) front loading washer. In general, the appliance warranties are more expensive than the HO warranties, but you get better coverage. I also went through about five "boards" on my top of the line Bosch dishwasher -- and all would have cost enough to consider chucking the dishwasher.
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Consumer reports writes that buying extended warranties is one of the biggest common and costly mistakes people make. Of course, if you buy it, and it comes in handy, then you've done well. But, CR points out that only a small number of these appliances need repair that cost more than the warranty in the usual warranty life span (makes sense, the companies would not be offering these extended warraties at x price if they were not making money off of it.)
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Thanks for all the good advice. This info has proved most valuable!
I'll let you know how it turns out. I'm waiting to see if any sales pop up after Thanksgiving.
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I'm playing with the new microwave today, so thought I'd give you a quick update on it since you're considering kitchenaid. I'm sure all new mid-range microwaves are comparable, but this one's super space-agey. I was afraid I wouldn't like it because my old one had a rice button and a frozen vegetable button. This one has pre-programmed everything. It has like 5 or 6 different rice options including long grain white, short grain white, brown, and instant. My husband was cursing while installing it, but so far, I really like it.
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For what its worth, I know others have disparaged Kenmore service but we have a 3 year old Kenmore Elite counterdepth fridge (side-by-side) and (a) we've had no problems with it, and (b) our dealings with them with respect to installation were just fine.
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Count yourself lucky that you have had no problems, because if you have, good luck!! We have a six month old washing machine from them, front loader and not inexpensive. I had to wait half of a day for a repairman to come who didn't know what he was doing. After he left I found the washer still had the same problem. I had to wait until Monday (this was on Friday) for another repairman to come (at 5PM, supposed to be there between 8 and 12). this was after speaking to the store manager on Friday after getting a run around from the repair center all day!! Read my lips "I will never buy another appliance from SEARS!!!! The second repairman that finally arrived, and fixed the machine, told us that they do not train their repair people anymore!!
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All I can say is that the fridge was one of 3 appliances that we bought on a single day at Sears 3 years ago -- also bought a Kenmore top-loading washer & GE dryer. All are functioning just fine. When it comes to buying Kenmore branded appliances it helps if you can figure out which of the "name brand" companies actually manufactures the product. Historically, Kenmore washers have been manufactured by Whirlpool, and fridges by GE, for example, and take that into consideration. It's also a bit like buying a car -- appliances with relatively "new" features, such as a front-loading as opposed to top-loading washer, are more likely to have glitches that have not been resolved. It's my impression that the name-brand manufacturers of front-loading washers -- i.e., Whirlpool and Maytag -- also have a lot of performance issues. Of course, with a Kenmore product, you are locked into using Sears for all repairs under warranty, whereas you typically have more flexibility with Whirlpool, Maytag, etc. All 3 of the appliances that we bought were relatively traditional products and we are quite pleased with them. When my 20-year old Kitchenaid dishwasher needs replacing (i.e., probably soon), I am sure we will be back at Sears.
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I just put a new kitchen in a 30 year old house three years ago, and here's my best advice. Do NOT tie yourself down to one brand. Go with individual appliances that have the special features you want. Builders and "flip artists" go for all one brand because its quicker, they don't have to live with them, and in many cases they get a quantity discount.. I have different brands but the stainless steel makes them all work together just fine and I have exactly what I want in each appliance. There is no re-sell advantage to having all one brand that I'm aware of, but I'm not aware of all markets. But when I see all one brand, it raises red flags for me.
When it comes to counter depth refrigerator/freezers, go to a brick and mortar place and check them out. Then, once you've made up your mind, shop the web for best prices. Right now a lot of places are offering free delivery. Hey, thare are some bonuses that come with Great Depression II! I bought a Maytag counter depth and I hate it. Really bad interior arrangement, and the bottom of the three crisper drawers (labeled "Meat") freezes everything. Who needs frozen meat for dinner? I had to go with a counter depth because the refrigerator space is right next to the small hallway that leads to the garage and the walk-in pantry. I find the shallower shelves inside a counter depth are really annoying. But such things may not bother you as much as they bother me.
As far as minimum appliance breakdowns, we no longer live in an age when refrigerators were designed to last 20 years and stoves were designed to last a lifetime. As a homeowner, do not waste money on extended manufacturer's warrantees. Just buy a home owners' warranty. Mine runs about $500.00 ayear and covers all appliances except my stand-alone freezer and the whole rest of the house, except my sprinkler system. Plumbing, floors, doors, the whole shebang. There is a $55.00 "co-pay" for service calls, but when a sink is clogged or you need a faucet replaced because it's leaking, it's a genuine savings in an older home. The point of this is that if you buy an appliance line that never breaks down for other people, but it breaks down for you, what have you gained? Shop for appliances that have the features you want, then keep your home owners insurance up to date. '-)
I would think twice about a double oven, pun intended. The problem with double ovens is that they only have one control panel I opted for two seperate ovens and had them installed so they have the same look as a double oven. Both of my ovens are General Electric (currently taking raps for being undependable, but I wouldn't trade them for the world). One is a Trivection and my 20+ pound Thanksgiving turkey will be done to perfection in two hours! The other is an Advantium that functions as a full high powered microwave, but also cooks with halogen light or a combination of the two. That means I can bake a pizza with a crispy bottom crust and nicely browned cheese on top, or char a steak to perfection. And I can bake in it to, though I very rarely do cakes in it, but cookies are a cinch! Well, except for my waistline.
Oh, before you pop for that gas cooktop, see if you can find a brick and mortar place that has hooked up fully functional induction cook tops. They are fully as responsive as gas, don't heat up your kitchen in the summertime, and they are cheaper to operate than gas or electric. They've been used in European restaurants for decades. America is soooooo behind!
Good luck with your new kitchen!
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I ditto the advice not to go with a single brand. Stainless steel models mix well. No one manufacturer is best in every category, performance or reliability-wise. If you're in a mid-price range, I'd suggest GE for the ovens (be sure and get convection - it's worth the extra $$). For a nice mid-range DW, Kitchenaid is very hard to beat - I've had them in three homes with no problems. Bosch is also good for DW's - the interior space is a bit smaller, no heated dry or food disposer but very quiet if silence is important for you. For a gas cooktop (and I wouldn't trade gas for anything else), go and check them out. I had a Kitchenaid in my last home that I liked quite well. If you were going to splurge, this is where I would consider going with a Bluestar or Wolf rangetop - open burners, high btu's. It's truly helped me move my cooking up a notch. For the fridge, GE, KA, or Samsung (french-door) are all good choices. I love my new Samsung FD at our beach place but have had good luck with GE and KA in the past. FWIW, my long-time appliance repairman says GE for ovens, KA or Bosch for DW, and GE or KA for fridges (in the mid-price range) for less repair-prone appliances. Microwaves are all pretty much the same unless you spend big $$ for Advantium-type capabilities which also makes them more repair-prone.
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For the record, my Advantium is 220v and has been absolutely trouble free. If you get it instead of a stand-alone microwave and make it your second oven, it's pretty economical too.
But that's not why I'm posting again. On cooktops, there are some possible safety issues you should be aware of when making your final gotta-live-with-it choice. There are a lot of cooktops on the market from reputable manufacturers that are a major safety hazard! I'm talking about cooktops with raised "trivets" over the burners that sit an inch or more above counter height. Some are round and smaller than the diameter of most pans. I have made pot roast on one once in my life and almost received a major burn because when I tried to turn the large 7 bone roast to brown the other side, I was't stong enough to pick up the whole roast with a cooking fork so I tried to "slide" it over. Works great at home! But NOT on a raised trivet. The large Le Crueset au gratin pan full of HOT fat and oil went shooting off the burner and skidding toward the edge of the counter (from there, the floor!) before I caught it bare handed.
Even if the entire cooktop surface is raised above counter level, you will still have a hazard when you want to move a large boiling pot from the stove to counter level.
Always think things through before you buy something. Designers and architechts should be forced to live with, in, or use the products they design for one full year before it is foisted on someone else. There are some really bad designs out there! Caveat emptor!
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I second Caroline's endorsement of the Advantium.
I have the GE Adv. 2 Miele's, a Wolf and 2 Subzeros. In 5 years, it's the only appliance I have never needed a service call on.
And now I am hooked! I have literally reconsidered moving because the next house has a newly remodeled kitchen w/o an advantium. I don't know if I could live w/o it anymore. I almost never use my behemoth Wolf which takes forever to heat up.
I know I sound like a 60's pitchman but it's true!
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On my upcoming remodeling of my kitchen, where I am doing the design and making some of the built-ins and supervising a worker, I am going to install an induction cooktop that will be flush with the heat-resistant countertop, just for the reasons that Caroline has mentioned.
I have cooked many a meal on a six burner Thermador Professional Series gas stove and being able to slide pans around on the full surface, like I could do on it, was paramount to me! When something needs to be moved off a burner, I don't want to have to negotiate irregular height areas. I have already suffered serious burns from boiling water splashing on my feet (but that was a campfire).
Individual, raised burner surfaces (or trivets), like on cheaper gas stoves, are stupid and dangerous.
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I envy you getting an induction cooktop. I live in an apartment and take what they give me, but I have a little portable induction hotplate that I use mostly for canning as the canner takes up 3/4 of the stovetop. I love the blessed thing. The way of the future.
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We did a major (down to the studs) kitchen remodel on a 40 year old house last year. We're just now coming up on the 1 year anniversary of the kitchen being completed. We purchased a Frigidare gas range (no stub back), microwave and dishwasher. The range and microwave have been fine, the dishwasher was a nightmare. Frigidare's customer service was good, their local repair representatives were horrid and incompetent. It took 9 months of a non-functional dishwasher before they finally agreed that the original control panel the unit came with was defective and replaced it. We went with Frigidare because we got the best bang for the buck and because we wanted to invest a larger portion of our money into higher end finishes for cabinets, granite counters, lighting and flooring.
We have a standard-depth Kitchenaid side-by-side refrigerator and it's worked perfectly since the day we plugged it in. No problems and no hassles.
My sister and her husband built a new house several years ago; they put in a GE Monogram side-by-side and absolutely HATE it. It's shallow, the spacing awkward and not terribly efficient. They keep threatening to get rid of it because they are so dissatisfied with it. For the cook-top, wall convection ovens and microwave they went with Dacor and have been extremely happy with that choice.
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I also am doing a kitchen remodel and find all of this very confusing. For refrigerators, is it better to go with a 36" counter depth or a 42" built in for a side by side. In looking at the prices, the built in is almost double for only an extra cubic foot. Also, what brand would you recommend for best layout? They seem to vary. The Kitchen Aid Architect II looks good but I have a Friends and Family on line store discount and was also looking at the GE Monogram or Profile.
Also, any experience with the new 30 inch double Electrolux Icon ovens? I love that the racks glide out further than normal.
HELP!
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"I also am doing a kitchen remodel and find all of this very confusing. For refrigerators, is it better to go with a 36" counter depth or a 42" built in for a side by side."
Depends on how you use it. I don't like side freezers for the obvious configuration issues (more shelves, but narrower -- I prefer a box configuration). There's no "better" in the decision. I have a 36" built-in Sub-Zero bottom-freezer in the kitchen, but we also have another full-size refrigerator freezer in our basement.
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Lfhhouston:
What did you end up going with for your kitchen? I also am remodeling and am confused.
Thanks!
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Two more cents...
Just remodeled and quite happy with GE profile for the mid range gear. The whole kitchen has GE, KA, Viking and Everstar, all stainless steel. It matches. RE: single brand matching: in mid-range gear there's no added resale. That's for top-of the-line showboats; please don't fall for that garbage. Build YOUR kitchen.
Didn't buy extended warranties, but we have the option to pick one up within a year. I'll be looking at the electronic control panels on the dishwasher and ovens; one quirky peep out of them and I'll send in that extend-o payment! Just MHO.
Sometimes we get wrapped up in our projects. Best of luck to all the folks in remodel turmoil.
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Depending on how many appliances you buy, you might find that buying a whole-house warranty is much more cost-effective than the various separate extensions. My Old Republic warranty has pulled my fat from the fire several times, and it covers things like plumbing and HVAC too. Definitely look into it.
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Not available in quite a few states, especially in the north. Wonder why?
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We have it in FL., but never heard of it in Michigan. It is not inexpensive, but has saved us a bundle in the long run! I had water under the kitchen sink and couldn't figure were it was coming from. They came out, and all it was, was the part of the facet that pulls how had come loose. He screwed it on tight, and said goodbye. If I hadn't had a contract and had to pay him for that I would have killed myself! They also inspect our AC and Heat twice a year, plus we have all our appliances covered. Our Maytag washer needed a repair that cost over $600, and it was all covered!
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Very good idea, indeed. I'll be looking into this shortly.
And for the record (as if anyone cares) I edited my order from above. Instead of these:
Electrolux 36 gas cooktop (not Icon)
electrolux 36 inch chimney hood (not the glass one)
we switched to:
Kitchenaid 36 in scratch resistant gas cooktop
and the zephyr savona hood
For anyone looking at SS gas cooktops, I'd recommend at least taking a look at the scratch resistant KA model. I did my own in store scratch test, and the KA won, hands down. I'll get to start using my kitchen in less than a month. The granite guy and the plumber both said the new kitchen should be in a magazine. I'm pretty pleased so far, and the granite, cooktop, or sink aren't even installed yet. The contractor is doing a spectacular job.
And oh, yeah - if anyone ever need to know how to make eggs over easy, sausage links, and hashbrowns in a panini maker, let me know.
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How about some pics of your worthy kitchen??
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