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<topic>
  <id>568503</id>
  <title>No Corkage Fees</title>
  <published_at>Thu Oct 30 11:22:36 -0700 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>19</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>2</id>
    <name>Los Angeles Area</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4138844</id>
        <content>Looking for restaurants [dinner service, med. price range] in Orange County and or Long Beach that do not charge corkage Fees.  the few that I know are:  Houstons, Blacksheep, Cafe R&amp;D, Pinot Providence and Gulfstream.

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        <published_at>Thu Oct 30 11:22:36 -0700 2008</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>189299</id>
          <name>brentbacher</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4138970</id>
      <content>OC/LB outside my area, but same principle applies: as the economy continues downslope, more and more restaurants are waving corkage. Or at least that's my experience. Only caveat: you need to ask. More often than not they'll waive it. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 30 12:14:39 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4138844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>28703</id>
        <name>RicRios</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4139205</id>
      <content>try links below listings of no-corkage or sorta no-corkage fees.  Looks like Lasher's in L.B. is a sorta...Memphis and Melting Pot various OC locations.

http://www.localwineevents.com/Long-Beach-Wine/BYOB-restaurants.html

http://www.localwineevents.com/Orange-County-Wine/BYOB-restaurants.html</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 30 14:04:51 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4138844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15170</id>
        <name>Local</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4226653</id>
      <content>Memphis has a no-corkage night once a week, the other nights it's around $5-10</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 07 04:07:36 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4139205</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>33727</id>
        <name>patz</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4226912</id>
      <content>Are they still open?</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 07 08:08:37 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4226653</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12141</id>
        <name>Adsvino</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4139227</id>
      <content>Mimi's only charges $1. These days, that very reasonable</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 30 14:15:22 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4138844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80667</id>
        <name>janetms383</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4139238</id>
      <content>All of the Hillstone Group restaurants (Houston's, Bandera, Cafe R&amp;D and Gulfstream) waive corkage, and many (but not all) Patina Group restaurants (including Pinot Provence) waive corkage.  Otherwise, it's notable that many restaurants will waive corkage if you bring a nice bottle, and offer a taste to your server.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 30 14:17:49 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4138844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>171170</id>
        <name>josephnl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4218666</id>
      <content>Just called Patina about corkage and it is $30 for a regular-sized bottle. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Dec 03 16:33:59 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4139238</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39879</id>
        <name>scurvy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4218712</id>
      <content>Heres a partial list from a robert parker board thread


This first post updated to include updates as of *11/09/07*

2117 - West LA $10
Admiral Risty's in PV $12
Allegrini - Silverlake $0.00
Amuse Caf&#233; $1 per person glass fee
Angeli Caffe $10 per bottle
Angelini Osteria $ 20 - waived for each bottle purchased off 
AOC $25 per bottle, waived if 2nd bottle purchased
Asia de Cuba $40
Avenue - Manhattan Bch $20;
Balboa $20 per bottle (corkage is waived if a bottle is also bought) Sunday's their whole list is half price!
Barnacles Bar &amp; Grill - Southbay $0.00
Benihana's, Torrance, Not Allowed
bistro de la gare, south pasadena, $10 byo glasses as theirs are small 
Blair's $15.00
Bluewater Grill - Southbay $10.00
Blue Pacific $8; 
Brass Cap, $25
Brentwood, $25
Briganti, south pasadena: $15
Buono Sera - Redondo $15
Buona Vita - Southbay $0 
Cafe Bizou $2
Cafe La Fornaretta (San Marino) $10
Cafe Mimi -$15
Cafe Piew - $0
Campanile $20 per bottle
Capo - $25
Chart House - Malibu $20
Chez Jay, Santa Monica - $10
Chez Melange - Southbay; $15, $0 Tuesdays
Chinois On Main $20 per 750ml
Cicada, downtown LA, $15 (cannot be on their list)
Ciudad $13 per bottle
Cobras &amp; Matadors - $0 if bottle bought next door??, otherwise $15, but byo glasses as theirs are very small
Craft - $35 
Creme de la Crepe - Southbay $0.00
Cucina Bene, $10 
CUT, Beverly Hills, $35
Dan Tana $24 per bottle
 Fioretta Trattoria--BYOB is not allowed for groups smaller than 12 
Fraiche $15 1st bottle, $25 2nd bottle
Frito Misto - Southbay $3 
Gio Cucina Napoletana, Encino $8
 Giorgio Baldi - Pac. Palisades Per Pete, BYOB not allowed
Girasole on Larchmont has no corkage fee.
Grace $15 per bottle provided it's not on the wine list; otherwise not allowed (no per table limit on personal cellar bottles if call in advance to let them know how many)
Guelaguetza $4 per bottle
Hatfield's $20-25 range per Walter's failing memory 
Hotel Bel Air $40
Houston's, all locs: $0.00
Il Capriccio - Los Feliz $5.00
Il Grano - West L.A $30
Il Moro $15
Jackson's Village Bistro - Southbay $7.00
James Beach,Venice, $12/btl (cannot be on their list)
JAR ...$20 2 bottles limit
Jiraffe - Santa Monica $20 per bottle
Joe's ($20) 
Joe Greensleeves - Redlands - $12
Josie - Santa Monica FREE on Mondays, 2 bottle max.. $20 per bottle, waived if 2nd bottle purchased; 
Kings for Fish $10
 La Botte, - Santa Monica No BYOB allowed
La Buca $10.00
La Cachette $25 per bottle; $1 on Sundays
La Sosta - Hermosa Bch, $25
La Terza $25
Lawry's $10 per bottle
Lilly's - Venice $20
Literati 2 - Brentwood $15
Little Door - $35 per bottle; $70 per magnum 
L'Opera Ristorante -Long Beach $15
L'Orangerie CLOSED $25 per bottle, provided it's not on the wine list; otherwise
Lucques $16. 
Marcello's, San Pedro $15
Madame Matissee - Silverlake $0.00 (BYO stems)
Maple Drive $15 per bottle (waived if second bottle is bought)
Marouche $8.00
Mastro's $25 per bottle
Melisse - Santa Monica $30 per bottle, waived if 2nd bottle purchased
Melting Pot (Pasadena, LA, OC) $15
Metro Cafe - Culver City $0.00
Mortons $25 per bottle. 
Mr. Chow's $25 per bottle
Musso &amp; Franks $3.50 per person (no matter how many bottles)
Opaline CLOSED $12 per bottle
Opus $20
Orso $12 per bottle
Osteria Mozza, on Highland, $20
Parkway Grill $20 per bottle
Patina $30 per bottle; $60 mag
Petros, Manhattan Beach $15
Piccolo Paradiso - Beverly Hills $15
Pinot Chain (Pinot Bistro, Pinot Caf&#233;, Pinot Hollywood (but *not* in Disney Hall) &#8211; $0.00
Pizza Mozza on Melrose, $ 25 waived for every btl. Purchased
Pizzicoto $8 per bottle
 Polo Club, Beverly Hills Hotel $50
Prego $12 per bottle
Providence $0 Mondays, $20 other nights
Restaurant 2117 &#8211; $10
Rock 'N Fish - Southbay $12 if not on list
Rustic Canyon Wine Bar, Santa Monica - $25/bottle; max 2 btls
Sasabune (sushi) - Brentwood $15
Sona $30 per 750 ml, limited to 1 bottle per 2 guests; if wine is on wine list, not allowed
Sor Tino - Brentwood $8 
Spago $25 per 750ml
Sushi Central, Culver City, $0 
 Sushi Nozawa: "We don't do that" (Shocker...)
Table 8 - $0 on Mondays
Tangerine $10 per bottle
Tanino, Westwood, $20
Taylors $10 per bottle
Terra, Malibu, $12 
Teru Sushi, Studio City $8
The Copper Room - San Pedro $10
The Grill $15 per bottle
the Crepe Vine, Oldtown Pasadena, $8
 The Ivy - Not allowed
The Kitchen - $3.00
The Press - Claremont - $8
Totoraku Teriyaki House on Pico - $0
Traxx, Union Station, $15
Turner New Zealand - So. Coast Plaza $15
Tutti Mangia - Claremont - $10
Upstairs 2, West LA - $15 nice stems
Valentino $30 per bottle
Vert $14 per bottle
Violet, Santa Monica $12
Water Grill $20 per bottle
Yujean Kang (Pasadena) $10
Z Sushi $10
Zelo Cornmeal Crust Pizza, Arcadia, $8.00

Lastly, not a corkage "policy" per se, but for:
Santa Monica &amp; environs: a list of restaurants with $0.00 corkage if the wine is purchased at one local wine shop... see post #29 below
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for more go to http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showthread.php?t=5229</content>
      <published_at>Wed Dec 03 16:47:44 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4218666</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>162113</id>
        <name>sentient1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4219757</id>
      <content>Tons of closed places on this list, call first.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 04 07:07:31 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4218712</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12141</id>
        <name>Adsvino</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4219169</id>
      <content>Brand new and delicious in Long Beach: At Last Cafe, on Orange, just south of Broadway. http://jmchefcatering.com/
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      <published_at>Wed Dec 03 20:26:10 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4138844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>68466</id>
        <name>vickib</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4220178</id>
      <content>Gingergrass in Silverlake (outside your area, I know) = no corkage fee</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 04 09:51:37 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4138844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>120328</id>
        <name>Lmo1823</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4221967</id>
      <content>Palermo's in Covina has no corkage fees but they do ask that you show a receipt (?) showing you bought it elsewhere.  They do not serve any alcohol and I have no idea why they have this policy but the food is cheap and delicious.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 04 21:16:57 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4138844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13039</id>
        <name>heckonwheels</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4221982</id>
      <content>Why would they want to see a receipt?  Do they think you stole the wine?  What if it was given to you as a gift?  What if you made the wine yourself?  That policy seems really dumb!!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 04 21:25:05 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4221967</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>171170</id>
        <name>josephnl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4223241</id>
      <content>They said it was because of the authorities (ABC?).  I agree, it was one of the strangest things I'd heard.  I just told the server that I have several bottles of wine at home and I'm not in the habit of keeping reciepts for them.  She didn't say anything but did bring glasses and a corkscrew.

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      <published_at>Fri Dec 05 10:54:47 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4221982</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13039</id>
        <name>heckonwheels</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4240597</id>
      <content>odd conversation with Trachts, thought of some solo dining tonight.  now keep in mind, I am staying across the road, and I know they are always empty or near to it.

asked about a half bottle, and was told corkage was $25.00
which is nuts, so I said that was very competitive in these times and was there any better that can be done.

I have to say I wouldn't normally name someone but seeing as its true: Nicky bluntly said in a take it or leave it tone:  no, that's it.

not to mention that are running specials all over the place to get people in, and they have no 1/2 bottles on the list...  

I am not sure what is sillier, this policy or letting a 20yr or so girl make such pronouncements on behalf of the restaurant.

/end rant lol
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      <published_at>Thu Dec 11 19:22:52 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4223241</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>247185</id>
        <name>batfink23</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4241503</id>
      <content>who the heck is Nicky? Nicky Tracht?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 12 07:43:23 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4240597</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12141</id>
        <name>Adsvino</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4241696</id>
      <content>Nicky Hilton?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 12 08:46:43 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4241503</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>28703</id>
        <name>RicRios</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>4241817</id>
      <content>Nicky Ikki?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 12 09:32:42 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4241696</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12141</id>
        <name>Adsvino</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>4241855</id>
      <content>lol.  sorry, Nicki is the name of the girl who I spoke with, and seeing as she was so keen to identify herself and her authority...</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 12 09:46:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4241817</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>247185</id>
        <name>batfink23</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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