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  <id>567505</id>
  <title>Food Detectives - Food Network</title>
  <published_at>Sun Oct 26 07:29:43 -0700 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>14</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>33</id>
    <name>Food Media and News</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4129619</id>
        <content>I watched the first 2 episodes, what a waste of air time, I think FN is getting away from programs that teach techniques on food prep and cooking.  One of my favs is America's Test Kitchen on PBS. </content>
        <published_at>Sun Oct 26 07:29:43 -0700 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>149836</id>
          <name>cstr</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4129643</id>
      <content>&gt;&gt;I think FN is getting away from programs that teach techniques on food prep and cooking

That ship sailed at least two years ago.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 26 07:49:18 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129619</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11104</id>
        <name>dolores</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4133834</id>
      <content>And it has for me, I don't watch much in the evening anymore.  I still like Tyler's Ultimate and old re-runs of Good Eats, at least you can still pick up some tips and techniques from them.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 28 06:20:56 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129643</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>149836</id>
        <name>cstr</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4131980</id>
      <content>I hate this show. I had semi-high hopes when I saw the previews, thinking it might be like Myth Busters, but with food. Sadly, it doesn't come even remotely close to Myth Busters, and most of the "mysteries" they've addressed have already been covered by MB or Good Eats. At least Alton and his band of "actors" know they're bad and are appropriately tongue-in-cheek, the "food techs" on Food Detectives are some of the worst actors pretending not to be acting I've ever seen. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 27 10:51:14 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129619</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>135311</id>
        <name>mpjmph</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4132788</id>
      <content>I hated the show too and found Ted Allen's yelling into the camera really annoying.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 27 15:27:36 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4131980</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>67742</id>
        <name>HungryRubia</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4132970</id>
      <content>I actually turn the show off.  It is the worst show I have seen on FN for a while.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 27 17:04:24 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129619</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127407</id>
        <name>kprange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4134443</id>
      <content>As noted, that ship has been sailing but I still enjoy Good Eats (older episodes are better) and Iron Chef.

America's Test Kitchen is fantastic.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 28 10:41:17 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129619</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>101707</id>
        <name>yankeefan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4134457</id>
      <content>I love America's Test Kitchen too, though I think Christopher Kimball sounds a bit like a jerk sometimes.

I'm unhappy with Food Detectives as well.  I like Ted Allen and had high hopes for this show, but its sterile, unappealling, and feels forced most of the time.  The show has this "we're trying to be cool, but we just don't get it" vibe.  I'd much rather just watch Ted Allen explain the concepts without yelling at me followed by showing off some recipes and cooking skills.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 28 10:47:07 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4134443</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19503</id>
        <name>shan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4136048</id>
      <content>I was in the airport getting on the plane with Christopher Kimball, he's pretty down to earth, though I must agree, he sounds to be a bit uppity on the program but, I think it's more his Boston accent.  It's a great program, I also like the equipment corner comparsions they do. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 29 07:01:04 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4134457</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>149836</id>
        <name>cstr</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4136156</id>
      <content>The accent doesn't bother me, my husband's family is from that part of the country.  It's actually more the occasional snide/snarky comments he makes to the chefs while they are cooking (Bridget and Julia) that ruffles my feathers.  

That said, I love the show and think its probably the best cooking show on tv and I also like the equipment corner and the tasting lab.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 29 07:58:46 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4136048</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19503</id>
        <name>shan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4136519</id>
      <content>I have never thought him arrogant or anything like that. I know some people are annoyed by his relentless provincialism in Cook's Illustrated, but I don't usually read his editor's note anyway. I always thought it was more the chefs on the show who seemed kind of angry and unfriendly.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 29 10:35:42 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4136156</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>50030</id>
        <name>theuninvitedguest</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4134800</id>
      <content>The show sucks.  I like Ted Allen but this is a gimmick that is a waste of time and not educational at all.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Oct 28 13:05:54 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129619</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11408</id>
        <name>melly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4136512</id>
      <content>I was hoping this show would be more like how the New York Times occasionally debunks food myths, like not washing mushrooms, only using wine you would drink in recipes, etc., particularly because so many of the chefs on this channel perpetuate these myths constantly.

But this show is just not enjoyable to watch. It all seems faux-scientific and I constantly find myself thinking that their methods and conclusions are incorrect. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 29 10:33:14 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129619</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>50030</id>
        <name>theuninvitedguest</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4136789</id>
      <content>I agree that their methods are incorrect, but the conclusions are pretty spot on. The cast/staff isn't actually testing the theories for the show. They're taking studies that have already been published, reporting the findings, and pseudo-recreating the experiment for visual effect. Definitely faux-scientific, and the major reason I was disappointed when I watched it. I was really hoping the would be doing the testing themselves, not just regurgitating what anyone with an internet connection can find on google.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 29 12:09:57 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>4136512</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>135311</id>
        <name>mpjmph</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4329145</id>
      <content>This show just started airing on FN Canada last week.  I should have come here and looked for reviews before wasting my time.  I gave it two episodes (well, 1 and a half) and then erased it from my PVR. 

Other than the annoying presentation, the big thing that bothered me was the 'science'. The test of the '5 second rule' and 'double dipping' showed the differences in the amount of bacteria, but never delved into which bacteria were involved. Useless.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 15 10:48:48 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4129619</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>139219</id>
        <name>Sooeygun</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
