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Michelin San Francisco

Withnail42 Oct 13, 2008 12:10 PM

Michelin has just released it's San Francisco listings.

383 restaurants are covered.
Twenty five have a star.
six have two.
The French Laundry is again the only three star restaurant.

  1. Eat_Nopal Oct 14, 2008 07:02 PM

    The Michelin Guide is a worthless rag.... a mathematical consensus of area Chowhound favorites would be a far superior guide.

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    1. re: Eat_Nopal
      rworange Oct 14, 2008 07:09 PM

      Yeah, that was actually my point.

      Ok, so I only had the hot dog at BerberQ and two awful, awful ... awful sides. They screwed up the best sauerkraut in the Bay Area.. from a jar. BerberQ is an ugly, cold, cramped restaurant and the service is minimal ... to the point that a greasy spoon diner is better ... yet Michelin passes on even mentioning Ubuntu which deserves at least two stars in favor of BererQ. Jeez, BerberQ screwed up Rancho Gordo beans ... even I with my minimalist cooking skils don't do that. Ubuntu a lovely, peaceful restaurant, with nice service and the most amazing creative food isn't even mentioned. Get with it Michelin.

      While BerbersQ have some locals thinking it should be given grace because it is the only bbq game in the area ... that should not make them worthy of a mention in Michelin.

      Damn .. I'm actually going to have to have something besides a hot dog at BerberQ just to be able to bitch about it more. I fully intend to try the not so tony other BBQ joint in Napa for comparison.Who knows, Berberq might be all that. However, based on that miserable $12 hot dog and two awful sides it will take a lot to win me over.

      1. re: Eat_Nopal
        psb Oct 17, 2008 07:50 AM

        >a mathematical consensus of area Chowhound favorites would
        >be a far superior guide.
        except for the arrow impossibility theorem ... the owner of which is in the bay area.

        1. re: psb
          Eat_Nopal Oct 17, 2008 10:52 AM

          Arrow doesn't apply here. I am not trying to come up with a consensus of society's preferences... I am dictating (a no no to our little egghead-anarchist friend) a formulaic method implemented by an elite (albeit largely anonymous) oligarchy that dictates to the flock of sheep - aka Michelin Guide readership - what are superior choices in Bay Area dining.

      2. lotta_cox Oct 14, 2008 09:44 AM

        I am a little surprised that Boulevard only received 1 star. I ate there recently and it was definitely worthy of two stars by their definition, "excellent cooking, worth a detour"

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        1. re: lotta_cox
          ML8000 Oct 14, 2008 10:31 PM

          Chez Panisse also only received one star but Alice Waters was very gracious about it.

          The thing is, Michelin is very particular about the service and splendor, etc. That doesn't bode well in California....just like they have a hard time with ethnic food.

          1. re: ML8000
            lotta_cox Oct 17, 2008 04:35 PM

            yeah, I don't get the need for the splendor. I agree, this does not go over well in CA. We like to dine extremely well wearing jeans. I wish they would solely consider food and service....and not silver service.

        2. steve h. Oct 14, 2008 08:27 AM

          try this link:


          oops. original link failed when i tried it but it's ok now.

          never mind.

          1. rworange Oct 13, 2008 03:33 PM

            Here's a link to the list

            COI upgraded to two stars.

            Murray Circle, Plumed Horse, Trevese and The Village Pub earned one star this year

            It is absurd that Ubuntu is not on the list of starred restaurants. I like Murray Circle a lot, but it is not in the same class as Ubuntu.

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            1. re: rworange
              Xiao Yang Oct 13, 2008 04:56 PM

              If they lowered their meal price below $40, maybe they'd make the list.

              1. re: Xiao Yang
                rworange Oct 13, 2008 05:23 PM

                The starred restaurants don't have that limitation. The prices at Murray Circle are a lot higher. If ever a place deserved at the least a star, it is Ubuntu. Actually the prices are less expensive than BerbersQ just down the road.

                1. re: rworange
                  Xiao Yang Oct 13, 2008 06:15 PM

                  When it comes to "star" restaurants, Michelin's parochialism is well known. They generally stiff all truly ethnic cuisines, and It's not surprising they would ignore a niche restaurant like Ubuntu. I think Koi Palace should get a star, but I'm not about to bitch and moan over the oversight.

                  1. re: Xiao Yang
                    ML8000 Oct 13, 2008 07:06 PM

                    Indeed. Unless it's French cuisine with a full French service model, it can't get 3 stars.

                    1. re: ML8000
                      JRinDC Oct 14, 2008 07:31 AM

                      I see Quince didn't even make the list. Any thoughts on that?

                      1. re: JRinDC
                        meggie t Oct 14, 2008 04:13 PM

                        I read today that Quince was downgraded due to their possible move to a new location. When a restaurant is in transition, they are notified by Michelin that they will lose their status but will be revisited in their new location.

                        1. re: meggie t
                          dorian Oct 14, 2008 06:45 PM

                          When did Quince move? I was in SF in June and had a great dinner there. The room is so dark, though. I didn't know that was a new location unless they've moved since then.

                          I also had lunch at Aqua, I didn't think it was worthy of 2 stars. Maybe because I had eaten at Manresa the day before!

                          1. re: dorian
                            meggie t Oct 14, 2008 10:49 PM

                            They haven't moved yet but they have purchased a new place - the old Myth space downtown.

                            Cafe Myth
                            490 Pacific Ave, San Francisco, CA 94133

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