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peachesmarch Oct 7, 2008 05:31 PM

Real Eyetalian

I have some friends visiting from down south and wanted to go to a real Italian joint - maybe in the outer bouroughs. I am kinda sick of small Italian plates and upscale locales. Maybe something with red checkered table clothes that actually serves good food. I was thinking Max's or something along those lines but welcome any suggestions. Thanks!

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    intrepid Oct 9, 2008 09:59 AM

    piccola vnezia astoria, robertos bronx/arthur ave

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      phantomdoc Oct 8, 2008 06:47 AM

      Trattoria L'Incontro or Picollo Venezia, both in Astoria.

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        NYJewboy Oct 8, 2008 08:36 AM

        Yeah, I second Picollo Venezia. Time honored. I went there for my 14th birthday.

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          bobjbkln Oct 8, 2008 12:06 PM

          While very good, both Piccola Venezia and Trattoria L'Incontro are not red sauce restaurants based on their menu, although (especially PV), they have the feel of a red sauce place. In addition to Cono and Sons, I would recommend Frost in Williamsburgh. While there are better high end places (Roberto's, Zero Otto Nove)on Arthur Ave., I think Pasquale's Rigoletto is the most Real Eyetalian restaurant in NYC. Lastly while Ferndinando's is definitely authentic, note that it serves only Sicialian specialties and closes early (8 PM?)

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          Ferdinando's Focacceria
          151 Union St, Brooklyn, NY 11231

          Pasquale's Rigoletto
          2311 Arthur Ave, Bronx, NY 10458

          Piccola Venezia
          42-01 28th Ave, Queens, NY 11103

          Frost
          193 Frost St, Brooklyn, NY 11211

          Cono & Sons O'Pescatore
          301 Graham Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11211

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            boccalupo Oct 8, 2008 12:32 PM

            Ferdinando's is now open later on Fridays and Saturdays. I think until 10pm.

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              Astoria Lurker Oct 8, 2008 05:28 PM

              Agreed that L'Incontro and PV are definitely NOT red sauce joints (but both awesome). I would recommend Manducatis in LIC if you are looking for Western Queens red sauce. It has the great food and vibe of an old school NYC Italian American eatery.

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                phantomdoc Oct 9, 2008 10:36 AM

                Once brought visitors from Israel to Piccolo Venezia. The comment was "The best food we have ever had in our lives". Pretty much a safe bet that the meal will impress even the less than sophisticated as well as the experienced. Make it a slam dunk.

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          gutreactions Oct 8, 2008 06:31 AM

          peachesmarch, the outa boroughs are loaded with dees joints...for real 'Eyetalian' how can you leave out Arthur Ave. in da Bronx...search the many posts on this board for choices.

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            catherine Oct 8, 2008 06:40 AM

            Ditto on the Arthur Ave suggestion. I'm not terribly up on what's best these days but Dominick's would probably fit the bill.

          2. NYJewboy Oct 8, 2008 06:07 AM

            I have been scolded for referring to this place as a mere 'red sauce' joint, but I think Queen on court st would be just the ticket.

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              pizmet Oct 9, 2008 09:47 AM

              Another vote for The Queen. I disagree though, with the poster who recommended Sam's on Court Street. They make terrific pizza, and the occasional serviceable dinner dish. But I would never go there for a special occasion dinner.

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              peachesmarch Oct 8, 2008 05:28 AM

              Thank you bratle and mike!

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                malibu Oct 8, 2008 05:55 AM

                Cono & Son O'Pescatore... definitely. Exactly what you are looking for. I love a traditional spaghetti & meatballs. This is the spot.

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                Mike11201 Oct 7, 2008 07:54 PM

                Ferdinando's Focacceria Ristorante in Carol Gardens came to mind first. (check out http://nymag.com/nymetro/food/guides/features/453/, noting, in part that it is a "homey, nearly century-old Sicilian café on a preserved-in-time strip of Union Street"

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                Sam's on Court Street is also good old-school (red sauce) italian. http://menupages.com/restaurantdetail...

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                  MShapiro Oct 8, 2008 11:32 AM

                  Agree on Ferdinando's, but disagree on Sam's. Unless you’re ordering Sam’s pizza, which we like, I’d stay away from their entrees which do not impress us at all.

                2. BratleFoodie Oct 7, 2008 06:10 PM

                  I am absolutely not in a position to talk about the vast majority of Italian in NYC -- but I know that a local place for me called Mediterraneo (2nd and 66th) serves me big plates of pasta, so I have another meal the next day, and their eggplant ragu just hits some spot in me that makes me so happy. It gets loud and filled with all sorts, from babies to yuppies, and everyone is there to nosh. If it is anywhere near where you and your friends are staying, it might work out. I make no claims of true authenticity, except for the heavily accented waiters at times!

                  I know that Menupages has wildly mixed reviews, but so far I have never had a problem. Good luck!

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