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Oct 5, 2008 11:06 AM

Need help with insane daughter

She insists she wants to drink wine in wood cups.
I'm telling her she's insane.
She says that's the right way, has been like that for centuries.
I adamantly refuse.
I know there's plenty around:
but I still refuse.
Members of the board, what can I do?
If I say yes to this one, what will come next? Rhinoceros horn libation cups?
Any plausible reason why the wood cup would make the slightest sense?

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  1. A bronze goblet, a steer's horn, a bota bag, a clay vessel, a ceramic goblet, a pewter cup -- would all seem more likely candidates than a wood cup. There were no wood lathes back then.

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    1. re: Sam Fujisaka

      Prechristian Ireland:

      "The usual drinking-vessel among the common people, especially at meals and drinking-bouts, was a mether (so called from the drink called mead), made of wood, with two or four handles: it circulated from hand to hand, each passing it to his neighbour after taking a drink. Many of these methers are preserved in museums, of which two are figured next page. People drank from the corners. A sort of hamper or vessel called a rusc [roosk] made of bark-strips on a wicker-work frame, was much used in farmhouses. "

      1. re: RicRios

        People also used to use corn cobs in lieu of toilet paper. We've made significant advances and there's often good reason to take advantage of them.

        1. re: Frodnesor

          ok, now that my beaujolias is all over the monitor.... That was the perfect response to the asinine reasoning that wine should only be drank in wood cups. :)

        2. re: RicRios

          Sorry, Ric, I didn't know you're Irish. I was thinking about the Europeans who developed metalworking and Asians with ancient ceramics, the many who developed smiple clay vessels, and so on.

          1. re: Sam Fujisaka

            Me? Irish?
            Only link is (probably) the fact that they drink whisky now in Eastern Europe.

            1. re: RicRios

              Fue un chiste. Biru lang. Just joking. What did your insane daughter think about you calling her "insane" here in public?

          2. re: RicRios

            Oh, I always consume my Mead from wooden cups, even if it's domestic Mead from Colorado!

            I had not seen this reference, so now I know what the reason was.

            Just tell her that "honey-wine" IS best consumed from wooden cups, but not grape wine. Maybe that will work.


          3. re: Sam Fujisaka

            Wikipedia, hardly the best authority, dates the origin of the lathe to 1300 BC.

          4. >>> Any plausible reason why the wood cup would make the slightest sense? <<<

            In 2008? No.

            1. Sake cups are wooden. But for wine?

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              1. re: fallingup

                Sake being rice wine, I guess there actually is some contemporary pecedent for wood cups, though I'd probably give my own daughter Frodnesor's response (about the corncobs). But then, that's me, and I have a rather odd sense of humor my daugther she seems to have inherited from me.

                1. re: fallingup

                  The good ones are lacquered, so they don't affect the flavor. They're also a very specific size, relating to the amount of rice that was standard to buy in a market for a serving for one person.

                  As a matter of hospitality, the sake must be poured until it overflows, otherwise the host or restaurant server is cheating you in the most ungracious way imaginable. Polite thanks are of course in order when the pouring ritual is complete. I love drink-related trivia :)

                  Sadly, I have only recieved this traditional service in one SF sushi restaurant.

                  1. re: SteveG

                    If you are ever in the SD area, Yu Me Ya in Encinitas does the traditional service.

                2. She should also store her raw meat at room temperature, just like in the good old days.

                  1. RicRios,

                    Your only choice is to offer the wine to her in earthenware "tumblers," and then cut it with water. Make sure that the amphora was sealed with a resin stopper!

                    I see a lot of this with friends, who travel to some areas of Europe and insist on drinking their wines in "jelly jars," like they encountered in ______.

                    I have NEVER heard of the wooden cup thing, but have experienced similar. But hey! I'm a Riedel-geek, so what do I know?

                    Good luck, and let us know what the reasoning is for the wooden cups. I'm always ready to learn something new.