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Jonny509 Oct 1, 2008 06:03 AM

I've decided to go on a personal quest to find the best burger in the city of Boston. I know all about the best of Boston and which places have the "Best Burgers"... I'm more curious about the hidden gems.

I already know about Bartleys in Cambridge. Does anyone have any places I should add to my list? I'll take whatever I get from this forum and go from there. I want to have an encyclopedic knowledge of this cities burgers by the time I'm done.

  1. hiddenboston Oct 1, 2008 06:25 AM

    There are a lot of threads on this topic including this one, which is a good place to start:

    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/500776

    I love UBurger, Bartley's, O'Sullivan's, but you're looking for hidden gems, so personally, my 5 favorites that aren't as well known (more or less, and in no particular order) are:

    -- Zon's, Jamaica Plain
    -- Mission Bar and Grill, Brigham Circle
    -- 75 Chestnut, Beacon Hill
    -- Grumpy White's, Quincy
    -- Audubon Circle, Fenway area

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      gremster Oct 10, 2008 06:10 AM

      Man, I forgot about grumpy whites.
      I love that burger on garlic bread...god...soo much butter.

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        Gabatta Apr 11, 2009 12:18 PM

        I had an insanely good burger at Grumpy White's last night. I ordered a double cheese burger with roasted garilc. The combo of the cheeseburger, garlic and toasted/buttered bun made it like having a burger on garlic bread! It was delicious and I am already craving another.

        The burger options at Grumpy's are interesting. The standard burger is 8oz and grilled. Then there is the option of 4oz griddled patties in either double, triple of quad. I can't imagine tackling the quad. I will have to try the standard 8oz grilled burger next time. I will never be able to go there without getting the garlic though.

        The fries were medium cut and well done as I requested. The rings were medium cut as well, when they arrived they looked a bit heavy on the breading, but that did not stop us from devouring them. One large mixed salad was enough to serve the whole table. DCs had the lobster (generously stuffed with meat for $17), meatloaf (delicious) and boneless fried chicken with potatoes and gravy (surprisingly good). The turkey dinner and steak tips we saw going to another table looked great as well. We didn't try the whole belly clams (which they had last night) or any other fried seafood>

        Service was prompt and friendly and drinks generously poured.

        While this neighborhood joint is nothing fancy, we will be back.

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          hiddenboston Apr 21, 2009 07:03 AM

          I'm more a fan of their griddled patties than their grilled burgers, but I wouldn't refuse either. It's tough for me to get past their boneless fried chicken, though....

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            Gabatta Apr 21, 2009 03:54 PM

            I wouldn't refuse either as well, just give me the garlic and buttered toasted bun! Next time I will have to try the chicken.

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          typhoonfish May 27, 2009 08:51 AM

          I'm going to add another delicious burger to the mix. Burton's Grill in Hingham. Spot on medium rare, delicious cheese and really good fries. My only gripe has been the freshness of the roll seems to change.

        3. ScubaSteve Oct 1, 2008 06:27 AM

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/356710

          1. BostonZest Oct 1, 2008 06:39 AM

            One not mentioned on that the thread above is Sel de la Terre. I don't order burgers but the guy next to me at the bar was raving about his the other night. It certainly looked good and considering the quality of the meats they use, I think it might be worth a try.

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              pondrat Oct 1, 2008 10:16 AM

              To your point...just had my first SDLT burger in Natick last week and it was amazing...and this from one of the ultimate burger snobs. Easily was one of the top 10 burgers I've ever had.

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                tamerlanenj Oct 2, 2008 01:11 PM

                Holy crap! Now I'm excited, especially since SDLT just opened in my neighborhood. Hopefully the Back Bay location can recreate the magic.

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                  pondrat Oct 2, 2008 02:59 PM

                  It's always a wild card...I'm hoping the next one I get at Natick is as good as the first ! But you just never know if you just got lucky.

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                cockscomb Feb 2, 2009 09:00 AM

                agreed... the burger at sel de la terre is outstanding.

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                  magz Mar 14, 2009 08:37 AM

                  Had it last night off the bar menu at the SDLT near the aquarium. It comes with smoked onions, blue cheese, and aioli. It's on a fluffy roll, and the frites that come with it are the very thin kind, a little bit crispy, and served extremely hot, how I like them. My only gripe was the temp - ordered medium but it was cooked further than that - not pink at all. Still have to admit it was delicious. Next time I will order medium rare.

                2. mabelm4050 Oct 1, 2008 06:54 AM

                  Not in the city, but if you are including surrounding areas, I would recommend trying Flippin' Burgers in Newton Center. They're my current favorite. Some complain about the fries, but I find them just fine. Bartley's is my 2nd place.

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                    bakerboyz Oct 1, 2008 07:31 AM

                    They were using frozen fries, has that changed?

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                      Prav Oct 16, 2008 02:02 PM

                      Flippin Burgers needs to get their act together. They've been open how long, now? and they still can't get a simple order straight? They need to work on their process - watching them awkwardly try to cook, assemble and fulfill an order is annoying when you're there, but even more aggravating is if you get take-out, and discover their errors when it's too late. I understand that they seem to have a constantly training staff, but there needs to be a better process down.

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                        bakerboyz Oct 17, 2008 06:49 AM

                        My fries are as important to me as the burger and I won't go anywhere that serves frozen fries and they do.

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                      noonoo3 Oct 1, 2008 09:26 AM

                      I was over in Dedham the other day and gave Five Guys a try. I have to say it is one of the better burgers I have tried in the Boston area. Keep in mind it's not one of your gourmet burgers, however, for me it's a burger that takes care of your need for a "burger fix" and some....

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                        Jonny509 Oct 2, 2008 08:15 AM

                        I really want to try 5 Guys, but I live in Back Bay with no car.

                        I'll have to find someone with a car to help me out. Perhaps I can bribe them with a burger.

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                          Dax Oct 2, 2008 10:31 AM

                          Although I haven't eaten at the 5 Guys location in Dedham, I have eaten at a few of there outlets in other locales and I don't feel that it's really worth the trip if there are some local options. Boston has plenty of those.

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                            brandywiner Nov 26, 2008 09:01 PM

                            Really, you shouldn't bother. 5 Guys burgers are glorified fast food. They're competing with Wendy's, rarher than, say, Bartley's

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                              observor Nov 21, 2009 05:47 AM

                              Agreed...they also have a sign quoting a reviewer as praising them as flavorful...I do NOT agree, that is, I think, its problem...it's not flavorful at all, and the fries which they give you a lot of, are horrible...completely lightweight, as if frozen (but not)

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                                MC Slim JB Dec 16, 2009 08:31 AM

                                Oop, I originally put this reply in the wrong spot: see further down. Mods please remove this one.

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                            EATTV Oct 3, 2008 09:12 AM

                            I'd been hearing a lot about 5 Guys from friends in D.C. area. Made to order burgers; free formed, greasy fries. They stuff a big cup with the fries and then throw a bunch more in your bag. They have a pretty decent hot dog too, split and grilled, toasted bun. Malted vinegar on the tables gets my attention. White tile atmosphere reminds me a little of The Varsity in Atlanta. If the yard stick on great burgers is the old Tim's Tavern formally on Columbus near Dartmouth then the five guys burger has a foot or more to grow. It's kind've a Johnny Rockets that doesn't make you feel bad after you eat it. B+ on the burger, B on the fries, A- on the service and set up. While 5 Guys doesn't beckon to me I'll probably be back if I'm in the vicinity.

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                              Gabatta Oct 22, 2009 03:46 PM

                              http://www.boston.com/sports/football...

                              Apparently Randy Moss digs on the 5 Guys in Foxboro. Looks like two burgers and a large order of fries for the charter flight to London. Solid work.

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                                nsenada Oct 23, 2009 05:46 AM

                                They do make a darned good upscale fast food burger. Reminds me a little of the dq brazier (used to snicker at that as a kid) in my home town in Connecticut, which actually had great burgers.

                            2. CocoDan Oct 1, 2008 09:50 AM

                              I have my one annual burger at "Brasserie Jo". Comes standard with blue cheese. And, it's fabulous. If I'm going to clog my arteries, that's where I'm going to do it.
                              Enjoy,
                              CocoDan

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                                bear Oct 2, 2008 08:25 AM

                                CD, I didn't see a burger on the dinner menu. Do you know if they only serve it at lunch?

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                                jaymor Oct 1, 2008 10:10 AM

                                will be in the norwood suburb of boston next week .....any good ones in that part of town will be appreciated.

                                thanks

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                                  hiddenboston Oct 1, 2008 10:16 AM

                                  The Paddock in Walpole (just south of Norwood) has decent burgers, but it is a real basic Irish pub with little more than tables, chairs, and (dim) lighting. So if you don't mind eating in a cavelike environment, that might be a good bet.

                                  Also, the Halfway Cafe in nearby Dedham has excellent burgers IMO, as well as some really good handcut fries.

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                                  robertlf Oct 1, 2008 09:42 PM

                                  The best burger in Boston is in Cambridge at Flat Patties! It's like MacDonald's in the 60's and 70's. Hamburger is ground fresh every day. Great fresh fries. MMMMMMM DELICIOUS!

                                  But in Boston, Bouchee' on Newbury St. has my vote. A large burger on a brioche bun with a heaping load of fresh fries. Only problem.... No bernaise sauce!!!! Man do I miss DIVISION 16. That was the BURGER mecca!

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                                    Jonny509 Oct 2, 2008 08:13 AM

                                    I heard that Flat Patties is the closest thing to an In and Out Burger you'll find in MA.

                                    Is that true?

                                    Also thanks everyone! My list is growing by the second.

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                                      BarmyFotheringayPhipps Oct 2, 2008 01:37 PM

                                      It's in that approximate style, as opposed to the giant squashed-softball pub burger that tends to predominate here. Flat Patties is by some distance my own personal favorite burger in town, and it's the closest by far that I've found to my own personal Burger Ideal, but given the immense hype of In 'n' Out (which is no question a fine burger), it might not live up to that particular myth. But it is definitely worth a try.

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                                      makonna Oct 12, 2008 01:27 PM

                                      I am surprised anyone remembers Division 16. It was one of my favorite places. Pages and pages of drinks and good appetizers and burger. :)

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                                        pollystyrene Oct 16, 2008 07:00 PM

                                        Oh, I certainly remember it, too. Before going vegetarian, it was my first choice for burgers. Does anyone know who serves a burger similar to this in style and quality? I ask so I can make recommendations to carnivorous friends. Really.

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                                          Uncle Yabai Jan 8, 2009 06:34 AM

                                          Oh you just made me very nostalgic. When it first opened, in 1981 or so, the burgers were $9.92, which back in 1981 was a huge pile of dosh, especially for a burger. When they closed, sometime in 1998 or so, they were still $9.92. I used to live in Comm Ave down the street from the Harvard Club, and Division 16 was my cafeteria. I must have eaten takeout from there 3-4 times a week, usually a Chicago Burger, well done. Nowadays, if I did that, I would probably be dead in a fortnight, but it was fun while it lasted.

                                          Nowadays, I like Mr. Bartleys, just a five minute walk from my other place. Unfortunately (for me, and fortunately for Mr. and Mrs. B), it has become waay too popular with the bridge and tunnel crowd, and there is always a line these days.

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                                          WineAG Jan 4, 2009 07:13 AM

                                          Division 16... yes, a blast from the past. The burger was amazing. Unless I missed it, was looking for a comment on the Craigie burger they serve in the bar.

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                                            heathermb Jan 5, 2009 12:09 PM

                                            Ditto - I'm very curious about the burger at Craigie. Perhaps I'll have to take one for the team and try it myself one of these days. Oh, the burden...

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                                              jgg13 Jan 5, 2009 12:28 PM

                                              I had it a couple of weeks ago. Note: It was almost certainly the most I've ever paid for a burger, I'm not typically one for the "$15 burger at a fancy place" sort of thing.

                                              That being said, I *really* enjoyed it. Also, I usually get pretty sick of sweet potatoes fairly quickly, and it came with SP fries ... however I scarfed them all down and really enjoyed those as well. The burger was juicy, cooked a perfect medium rare, I forget what it had as toppings but they were "just right" - not overpowering but played well with the beef. It had just a hint of the funkiness that I associate w/ grass fed beef, which was tasty.

                                              At $18, do I really think it was 2x as good as the Roni Burger at MoS or something from Four Burgers (both down the street)? Not at all, but then again Tom doesn't work the bar at either of those spots either :)

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                                                sflory Jul 27, 2009 07:39 PM

                                                As obscene as $18 is for a burger, I'd order one at Cragie on Main again. All that grass-fed organic yadda yadda beef, a brioche bun, what's not to love? I think it had tiny little onion strings and a great fennel salad on the side too when I tried it. Plus, those great cocktails to go along with, yum.

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                                                  jgg13 Oct 1, 2009 10:45 AM

                                                  I had one recently which wasn't as good as I remember them being back in the winter. It took me a while to put my finger on what it is, but I think it had to do with the cheese. This time it seemed much milder in flavor, and the flavors all were a bit muddy - back then it seemed to have a sharper contrast. Maybe I'm wrong, but there was a def difference. With the way they operate, it wouldn't surprise me to find variations even day to day.

                                                  All that said, it was still pretty damned good. Plus I got to have a few money markets, woo

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                                            somervilleoldtimer Jan 6, 2009 09:41 AM

                                            Where is Flat Patties?

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                                              BarmyFotheringayPhipps Jan 7, 2009 10:30 PM

                                              JFK Street in Harvard Square, on the first floor of The Garage.

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                                                jgg13 Jan 8, 2009 06:52 AM

                                                IMO I wouldn't make a special trip for flat patties, I'd be pretty disappointed if I did. OTOH, I think it's great if I happen to be in that area.

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                                                robertlf Oct 4, 2009 05:38 AM

                                                UPDATE - I had a burger at Bouchee recently. The frites were excellent but the the burger itself was disappointing. The meat was probably frozen instead of fresh. It was too dense. their buns are actually Iggy's black pepper brioche buns - the same kind you can purchase at Whole Foods.

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                                                  almansa Nov 20, 2009 05:27 PM

                                                  What's wrong with the Iggy's brioche buns? Nobody's making their own burger buns. Well, almost nobody. I get it about the density. It's hard to buy a good burger, and meat suppliers don't always send their meat to the same grinders, so the results can vary. You really have to grind the beef in house if you want to guarantee good texture.

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                                                    MC Slim JB Dec 16, 2009 08:34 AM

                                                    I like Iggy's products a lot, but I dislike a brioche bun from any bakery on a burger. It detracts from a lot of otherwise really good burgers in my book: ESK, Coda, Pops, Harvest. A firm but plain or sesame-seed roll is really what I want.

                                                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                yummieeee Oct 2, 2008 10:15 AM

                                                My two favorite burgers in the area are wild willy's in watertown and charlie's kitchen in harvard square.

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                                                  hiddenboston Oct 2, 2008 10:24 AM

                                                  I went to Wild Willy's in Rochester, NH, last week, and thought it was one of the best burgers I've had. The handcut fries weren't bad, either, though they weren't really seasoned at all.

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                                                    chowciao Oct 2, 2008 10:30 AM

                                                    I'll put my vote in for Wild Willy's as well...I'm also a big fan of Zon's burgers too!

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                                                      emilief Oct 7, 2008 12:15 PM

                                                      There are two Wild Willy's in the BOston area- one in Watertown and one in Needham. (also the original in York Maine).

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                                                        loafdog00 Jan 4, 2009 06:39 AM

                                                        My wife and I went to Wild Willy's in Watertown last week. We both got the special they had that day with grass fed version beef. We both thought the burger was awful. The problem was the meat patty. It was very salty and we thought it was rubbery/tough. We ordered them medium and it was cooked right in that respect. We also got onion rings. They were good, more onion than batter which we liked. We wanted to try this place because they had grass fed beef available. We might try one more time to see if this visit was just a fluke.

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                                                          somervilleoldtimer Jan 6, 2009 09:42 AM

                                                          Okay, since we're on places with silly names, we kind of like Krazy Karry's in Arlington center, because you can get a glass of (not very good) wine with your burger. All right, the ambiance isn't great either.

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                                                      foxspirit Jul 16, 2009 09:24 AM

                                                      I vote Wild Willy's too. Without a doubt the best burgers around! I save up calories and gym hours just to trek out to Watertown (which I never have to go to otherwise) for their burgers.

                                                    3. digga Oct 2, 2008 05:34 PM

                                                      How does Four Burgers in Central Sq. fit into the big picture?

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                                                        jgg13 Oct 6, 2008 08:21 AM

                                                        Four Burgers is pretty good if you happen to already be in Central, but I wouldn't go out of my way by any means.

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                                                        Gabatta Oct 3, 2008 08:01 AM

                                                        With the links given and the names already thrown out you will have plenty of burgers to cover. As your blog post indicates that you work in the Back Bay, here is a list of places you can knock off during lunch or after work (some already mentioned). All have good to very good burgers and should be included in your comprehensive review.

                                                        - Abe & Louie's
                                                        - Bouchee
                                                        - Solas
                                                        - Bristol Lounge
                                                        - Audobon
                                                        - Sel de la Terre (new location on Boylston)
                                                        - u Burger

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                                                          teezeetoo Oct 3, 2008 10:19 AM

                                                          i love the burgers at two of my brookline neighborhood spots: the lunch time burger at Fireplace Grill, great fries and an excellent brioche bun and great maple-cured bacon, and a real bargain at $8.99, and the burger at Washington Square Tavern, though lately the fries have gone down a notch in quality and the price has always been a bit too high.

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                                                            BBHound Oct 3, 2008 02:07 PM

                                                            I second all of Gabatta's suggestions. However, most of these restaurants only offer their burger at lunch. Check the web sites.

                                                          2. almansa Oct 3, 2008 01:02 PM

                                                            I had two beef burgers at Four Burger. The first one was small and cooked like a hockey puck. I tried again and, apart from me wanting about 4 more ounces, it was rock solid. Perfect mr-medium, juicy and really great, meaty flavor. I liked the bacon and mushroom toppings, too.

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                                                              professor shorthair Oct 3, 2008 03:29 PM

                                                              To me there are only two contestants. Bartley's which I don't like and O'Sullivan's on Beacon St in Somerville. It is virtually the only place I eat a hanburger outside my home.

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                                                                Gabatta Oct 3, 2008 04:19 PM

                                                                Just curious, if you don't like Bartley's why would it be one of the two contestants you suggest?

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                                                              Northstar22 Oct 3, 2008 03:38 PM

                                                              A couple not mentioned The Corrib Pub in Brighton and exchange st Bistro. Also second the Flipping Burgers. Not crazy about O'sullivans or Bartleys. Maybe hit on the wrong days.

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                                                                hiddenboston Oct 3, 2008 05:40 PM

                                                                I agree about the Corrib, though I like the one in West Roxbury a little better (has more of an old-Boston feel to it). Either way, though, I do like their burgers as well.

                                                              2. SmokeDawg Oct 3, 2008 07:01 PM

                                                                Try the double cheddar bacon burger at Green Street Grill. Very tasty. And lots of fine draft beers to wash it down with.

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                                                                  jgg13 Oct 6, 2008 08:22 AM

                                                                  Green Street Grill closed a few years ago. I think you mean "Green Street". And if you're gonna bring up the booze there, you should make sure to mention their awesome cocktail skills behind the bar.

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                                                                    SmokeDawg Oct 6, 2008 07:20 PM

                                                                    They may have dropped the "Grill" on the menu, but the web site is still www.greenstreetgrill.com
                                                                    and, yes, I've had some very nice cocktails there, though I'd still rather have a pint with my burger.

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                                                                    rlh Oct 13, 2008 11:35 AM

                                                                    Tried this decadent burger last night - wow! It's awesome - two not-so-thin patties perfectly cooked to the medium side of medium rare with cheddar and bacon (which actually seemed superfluous and should have been crisper to make a real difference) on a small, but right-sized bun, with the homemade chips, coleslaw, and russian dressing - quite a value at $11!

                                                                    The Bohemian cocktail is also the best original creation I've had in the Boston area in a LONG time - and now we have the recipe thanks to Misty (who serves a totally crowded bar alone, extremely efficiently, and with a smile as well)!

                                                                    Even though we miss the short rib app of prior menus, the curried pumpkin soup to start and the grilled swordfish tacos make a return trip soon necessary. Green Street keeps getting better and better.

                                                                  3. cassoulady Oct 4, 2008 12:07 PM

                                                                    River Gods in Cambridge has a great burger and wonderful little potato cake things. I also really enjoy the burger at James Gate in JP

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                                                                      roundfigure Oct 4, 2008 08:14 PM

                                                                      I moved away a few years ago, but I still have fond memories of the truffle burger at Aquitaine Bis.

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                                                                        wittlejosh Oct 6, 2008 02:49 AM

                                                                        Schlow Burger at Radius----never had a better one.

                                                                        Also:
                                                                        Bacon Cheeseburger at Laurel
                                                                        Poopsie's Pub in Norwood puts a burger on this almost crispy toasted buttered bun

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                                                                          hiddenboston Oct 6, 2008 05:47 AM

                                                                          There's a Poopsies in Norwood? I know there's one on the Marshfield/Pembroke line. Are they connected?

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                                                                            wittlejosh Oct 6, 2008 07:53 AM

                                                                            Pembroke, sorry.

                                                                      2. MC Slim JB Oct 7, 2008 09:28 AM

                                                                        I had the burger at Coda again the other night, and it's still a beauty, plus it's served with very fine fries. The roll is described as "black pepper brioche" (and I hate brioche for burgers), but this was more like an egg-brushed kaiser roll (not a lot of butter-and-egg flavor in the roll itself).

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                                                                          twentyoystahs Oct 7, 2008 12:05 PM

                                                                          In that same neighborhood (south end) but on the other side, JJ Foley's serves up a respectable burger. Good solid fries too. Run by the same folks as Costello's (which also has one of my favorite burgers in town, and really good hand cut fries.)

                                                                          Good stuff.

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                                                                            Joanie Oct 7, 2008 01:02 PM

                                                                            Foley's and Costello's are the same people? never heard that before.

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                                                                              MC Slim JB Oct 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                                                              I like the Foley's (South End) burger too, and they also do a good turkey burger. The same chef (Katie Grealish) runs their kitchen as the one at Costello's; it's a sort of franchise setup at both, I believe. The downtown Foley's has a different chef and menu, more traditional American bar food, whereas the South End Foley's menu has the usual American suspect plus some Irish-leaning dishes: shepherd's pie, curry chips, fish and chips with a thick beer batter.

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                                                                                twentyoystahs Oct 17, 2008 08:02 AM

                                                                                I know this is a burger thread, but I'm always looking for a real "british-style" fish n' chips --with a thick beer batter, almost like a tempura (vs a somewhat light, limp, almost breaded fish n chips, which seems to be the norm around here...

                                                                                Sounds like Costello's has a fish n chips that may be close to this authentic British style, is that true? Last place I visited that did it successfully was the Banshee, the Irish pub on Dorchester ave....

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                                                                                  yumyum Oct 17, 2008 08:49 AM

                                                                                  I went on a fish and chips quest this spring. Here is the result of my research http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/508010

                                                                                  You'll see that others recommended the Druid and the Squealing Pig. I like Morse seafood too. But the general consensus seems to be you can get good fish OR good fries (chips) but not both on the same plate. That's rough.

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                                                                            JohnnyQ1960 Jul 10, 2009 02:51 PM

                                                                            This topic is pretty much talked out, but I'll second Coda and also recommend the burger at Avila (order at the bar).

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                                                                              bluesjack Jul 24, 2009 12:15 PM

                                                                              went to Coda for the first time and the burger is excellent also had the Stuffed Mushroom app with Bleu cheese, candied walnuts and bacon stuffing. To die for

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                                                                              Lighthousehunter Oct 7, 2008 01:54 PM

                                                                              I will add the newly reopened Downstairs Bar at the Marliave Restaurant (now owned by Scott Herritt, owner of Grotto) to the list of great burger places...yes it's a $12 bacon cheeseburger, but worth the price vs. the quality ingrediants and prep:
                                                                              Wolfe Neck farms organic beef, Vermont Farmhouse Cheddar, Vermont Applewood Smoked Bacon, on a fresh baked sliced Brioche . Sides are a choice of Hand Cut fries, Boston (molasses) Baked beans, or mixed greens.
                                                                              I have had it 3 times now...3 different trips, all cooked medium rare to my perfection.
                                                                              Baked bean side is more of a homespun recipe, with kidney beans,molasses, and one inch cudes of bacon to flavor. Hand cut fries were skin on, and worthy of a side dish.
                                                                              Washed it down last week with an Ipswitch American Ale, before that a Boston Tea Party cocktail (tequila, earl grey tea, and restaurant-made ginger beer). They even claim the pickle spears are made there at the restaurant.
                                                                              Not your typical fast food burger, but I left satisfied.

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                                                                                treb Oct 12, 2008 12:04 PM

                                                                                Well I got blown away this past Friday. Admittedly, I haven't had a burger at the 99 some sometime. I ordered a plain old steakburger with swiss and asked for it to be cooked 'medium', when it came out it was done 'medium' and it was juicy and tasted pretty good. I'm in shock that it wasn't torched dry!

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                                                                                  twentyoystahs Oct 17, 2008 08:04 AM

                                                                                  The 99 actually does have pretty good burgers, and apparently their buffalo chicken fingers are the best in town too....

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                                                                                    robertlf Nov 11, 2008 02:54 PM

                                                                                    And McDonald's and Burger King are best in the entire world. At least in my shuttered world.

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                                                                                      hiddenboston Nov 26, 2008 08:55 AM

                                                                                      Mmmmmmm.........360 grams of saturated goodness......

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                                                                                      Eatin in Woostah Jan 31, 2009 12:27 PM

                                                                                      Oh no, the buffalo chicken fingers are weirdly sweet and awful, IMO. Burgers are acceptable.

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                                                                                    tboom29 Oct 17, 2008 05:28 AM

                                                                                    My wife currently swears the Charlie's Kitchen in Harvard has the best bar burger around. Not tried it, but she is raving.

                                                                                    Also, PJ's in Teele has a pretty good black and blue burger.

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                                                                                      mick_t Oct 17, 2008 05:10 PM

                                                                                      Charlies? I had a burger there last summer and it was the thinnest burger I've had in years. I asked for it medium well and it was still cold in the middle. It reminded me of a badly done Pour House burger (and they're not great but cheap). Has the chef or kitchen changed since then?

                                                                                      The best burger I've had recently was at the Beehive. It was fairly big, the burger and the bun were perfectly sized, and it was cooked as I requested it (medium well), and it was tender and moist. I wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was, I actually think it was better than the burger at Coda.

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                                                                                      Beehive Restaurant
                                                                                      541 Tremont Street, Boston, MA 02116

                                                                                      Charlie's Kitchen
                                                                                      10 Eliot St, Cambridge, MA 02138

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                                                                                        Richard Hurts Nov 11, 2008 06:59 AM

                                                                                        I've seen no mention of RF O'sullivans in Somerville.

                                                                                        unreal bleu cheese stuffed burger

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                                                                                          robertlf Nov 11, 2008 02:52 PM

                                                                                          O'Sullivans is hyped. I fell for it and was disappointed.

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                                                                                            Eatin in Woostah Jan 31, 2009 12:29 PM

                                                                                            Me too. I had a burger craving last night so dragged my family to O'Sullivans. The onion rings were OK, but the burgers were dry, and we ordered them medium rare. They came sort of mediumish. The meat was just not very tasty and the buns fell apart. I wouldn't go back.

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                                                                                            Guinness02122 Nov 11, 2008 03:04 PM

                                                                                            I have always had fine burgers at O'Sullivans. This place gets the "Santarpio's" treatment. It's probably the best at what it does, but for some reason there's always controversy.

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                                                                                              robertlf Nov 11, 2008 03:17 PM

                                                                                              A matter of taste. Santarpio's is good but not great pizza.

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                                                                                          robertlf Nov 11, 2008 02:52 PM

                                                                                          Nah. Charlies has a GREAT beer garden but the burgers are so-so.

                                                                                        3. digga Nov 11, 2008 03:26 PM

                                                                                          I'll throw Highland Kitchen's burger into the mix. And when the fries are on, they are on.

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                                                                                            sendfoodie Nov 26, 2008 08:50 AM

                                                                                            The Butcher Shop put a burger on their menu fairly recently. It is out of this world! I also had a great burger at the Independent in Union Square recently.

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                                                                                              dfan Nov 26, 2008 11:30 AM

                                                                                              I haven't had enough local burgers to decide where it rates among the city's elite, but the Highland Kitchen burger I had the other week was really, really good.

                                                                                            2. ChickenBrocandZiti Nov 26, 2008 09:56 AM

                                                                                              I am excited to try the Butcher Shop version. Since the loss of Tim's to gentrification I must (believe me I understand the irony here) put my two cents in for the burger at Ashmont Grill. I had it last week for the first time and it is one of the best I have had.Incidentally the best burger I have ever had was in Keene NY at a family place called Monty Purdy's that is also, sadly, gone.

                                                                                              1. ecwashere7 Nov 26, 2008 02:30 PM

                                                                                                I have to second the call for the Schlow Burger at Radius. The BEST burger I've ever had. There is nothing complicated about it. It is a masterpiece.

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                                                                                                  nsenada Nov 28, 2008 08:02 AM

                                                                                                  Agreed on the radius burger - the quality and texture of the meat put it in a different category for me, though I find it a little salty. I actually like houstons' burger in the more traditional burger category.

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                                                                                                    MC Slim JB Nov 28, 2008 08:23 AM

                                                                                                    In the category of higher-end chains serving burgers, I'll add the Capital Grille, which does a pretty fine $13 burger at lunch only. That means you'll have to go to the suburbs (I've had mine at the Burlington outlet), as the Back Bay one doesn't do lunch.

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                                                                                                      treb Nov 28, 2008 10:52 AM

                                                                                                      2nd the CG but, darn those high-end cows!

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                                                                                                        Gabatta Nov 28, 2008 01:04 PM

                                                                                                        Last year, the Newbury Street location was open in December for holiday lunches. I have not heard if they will do the same this year.

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                                                                                                        nsenada Oct 1, 2009 10:39 AM

                                                                                                        Just had the Craigie burger last night, and in the expenso-burger category, it is way better than the Radius one. The marrow flavor really comes through, but doesn't overpower the beef. I thought I would hate the mace flavor in the ketchup, but I think it was a great addition, reminded me of other classic meat/cream/nutmeg combinations.

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                                                                                                        rlh Nov 28, 2008 01:26 PM

                                                                                                        My colleague ordered the Radius burger for lunch there recently at my urging based on what I'd read here - the burger, while cooked as ordered and served on nice bread with good cheese and fried onions, was a huge disappointment - it was very, very finely ground and densely-packed like a hockey puck and not juicy at all - this isn't what people love there ,is it? We should have asked if someone new or untrained was overhandling and abusing the beef for that burger...

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                                                                                                        searchmuch Jan 5, 2009 10:58 AM

                                                                                                        Hi - My husband LOVES the burgers at Ruby Tuesday's Restaurants. We often go to the one in Nashua, NH. Good luck with your search!

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                                                                                                          meaganl Jan 5, 2009 03:38 PM

                                                                                                          A bit off topic but I've had the Nashua Ruby Tuesday's burgers because my so lives right up the street and while they're pretty decent, I can't get over the smell of the restaurant! It constantly smells in there and not in a good way - I just can't put my finger on it.

                                                                                                          As for favorite burgers, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Eastern Standard. It's my go to burger. Although Precinct in Union Square is close to superseding it. And Highland Kitchen is close up there as well.

                                                                                                        2. Lauren R. Jan 6, 2009 10:43 AM

                                                                                                          Has anyone else had the foie gras burger at Bouche on Newbury? To die for. Juicy pattie, with a generous sliver of melt in your mouth pan-seared foie gras deliciousness on top. And of course comes with a basket of Bouche's signature frites. Yum.

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                                                                                                            Blumie Jan 7, 2009 09:31 AM

                                                                                                            What makes fries "signature" fries?

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                                                                                                              bakerboyz Jan 7, 2009 09:38 AM

                                                                                                              When a restaurant self-describes it's specialties or "signature" dishes...means nothing really!

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                                                                                                              heathermb Jan 7, 2009 12:39 PM

                                                                                                              I had it and it didn't do much for me. It was awkward to eat so I at the foie on it's own so the effect was lost on me. Don't remember anything about the fries.

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                                                                                                              sooky11 Jan 7, 2009 06:26 AM

                                                                                                              Fancy burgers:
                                                                                                              Sel de la Terre
                                                                                                              Radius

                                                                                                              Less fancy but excellent:
                                                                                                              O'Sullivans
                                                                                                              Audobon Circle

                                                                                                              Best All Around:
                                                                                                              The Cellar (amazing rosemary truffle fries!!)

                                                                                                              1. massgirl Jan 7, 2009 08:02 AM

                                                                                                                Sally O'Briens in Union Square has the second best burger I've ever had in my life. It's called the Sally Special Pub Burger and it's fantastic. I tried a burger at RF O'Sullivan's, and the Sally Special blows their burgers away.

                                                                                                                They have a great beer selection too.

                                                                                                                The best burger I've had is not in Boston, unfortunately. But if you're ever in NYC hit up Bar 89 and try their burgers. Phenomenal.

                                                                                                                1. WineAG Jan 7, 2009 08:20 AM

                                                                                                                  Don't believe The Met Bar & Grill in the Natick Collection has been mentioned... they have excellent burgers... even a "burger bar" counter type space in the front of the restaurant. They grill them vertically in a special contraption they've designed. Prob the best thing they serve there...

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                                                                                                                    cannedmilkandfruitypebbles Jan 7, 2009 09:46 AM

                                                                                                                    I went to the Met Bar & Grill last week and was underwhelmed. The burgers are small, which isn't exactly a bad thing, and found them to be no better than your average burger. Both burgers ordered were overcooked and a bit dry. The onion rings are out of this world. You get a heap of them sliced ultra thin and well salted.

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                                                                                                                      WineAG Jan 7, 2009 10:12 AM

                                                                                                                      Now that you mention it, yes I remember the burgers being on the small side... and agreed, if they are overcooked could see how they'd be more like hockey pucks... mine was cooked properly, Med Rare... very tasty. I think they need a good person on their vertical grill as it could be tricky figuring out the "done-ness"... it's not like a traditional flat grill where you can actually see and touch the burger to help determine how much it's done. With this you stick the whole burger in the oven... prob more of a timing thing.

                                                                                                                      I've been to the place a couple of times while at the mall to shop... like it better than Sel de la Terre or any other place there. However, the Met is not a destination place. I prefer their more high-end place on Rt 9 in Chestnut Hill, but haven't been there in a while.

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                                                                                                                      Gordough Jan 7, 2009 12:02 PM

                                                                                                                      I am not a fan of the Met Bar & Grill in the Natick Collection. I wouldn't be so bad if the burger was say $7-$8 but for what they charge, I was expecting something a bit more. and the burgers are VERY small. I suppose it is ok if you are already in the mall and don't want Sel de la Terre but otherwise it is a must skip.

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                                                                                                                        Richard Hurts Jan 8, 2009 03:35 AM

                                                                                                                        This thread has inspired my brother and I to go on a Burger Quest

                                                                                                                        RF O'Sullivans
                                                                                                                        Bartley's
                                                                                                                        Eagle Deli
                                                                                                                        Morton's
                                                                                                                        Radius
                                                                                                                        Flippin Burgers
                                                                                                                        5 Guys
                                                                                                                        Wild Willy's
                                                                                                                        Flat Patties

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                                                                                                                          Torolover Jan 8, 2009 04:07 AM

                                                                                                                          Don't forget to try Audobon Circle and Sal de la Terre. Let us know how you rate all of them!

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                                                                                                                            yumyum Jan 8, 2009 07:06 AM

                                                                                                                            Add Miracle of Science, the Druid and Highland Kitchen.

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                                                                                                                              phatchris Jan 8, 2009 08:48 AM

                                                                                                                              Also add the Marliave.

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                                                                                                                                twentyoystahs Apr 20, 2009 07:13 AM

                                                                                                                                I went to the Marliave Sat night for dinner and was very underwhelmed by the burger. It was cooked as requested, MR, and was fairly juicy, but it just wasn't that flavorful. I think the roll was brioche, it was something that was dense and heavy and in my opinion, sort of took away from the burger...Overall, a disappointment.....

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                                                                                                                              BBHound Jan 8, 2009 10:02 AM

                                                                                                                              Also add Abe & Louie's at lunch only.

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                                                                                                                                Bob MacAdoo Jan 8, 2009 12:42 PM

                                                                                                                                U Burger too.

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                                                                                                                                jakeswee Apr 20, 2009 08:20 AM

                                                                                                                                I had the same underwhelming experience at the Natick Collection. For those prices the burgers should be a whole lot better than what I cook on the grill. Of course you could spend about $10 more and get the Kobe Beef experience, although having Kobe beefburgers seems like such a terrible waste of prime beef.

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                                                                                                                                  Eatin in Woostah Apr 21, 2009 09:52 AM

                                                                                                                                  I had the Kobe burger and it didn't matter. I ordered medium rare, and it came almost well, very dry and bland.

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                                                                                                                                    hiddenboston Apr 23, 2009 12:57 PM

                                                                                                                                    It's weird--I've never had a good Kobe burger anywhere (New York, Boston, etc.). Is it me, or is this just some big conspiracy to make us spend extra money on something that kinda stinks? :-)

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                                                                                                                                      jgg13 Apr 23, 2009 01:03 PM

                                                                                                                                      I always assume that:
                                                                                                                                      a) It's *not* kobe, it might be wagyu
                                                                                                                                      b) It possibly, maybe, perhaps might be wagyu
                                                                                                                                      c) Even if it's wagyu, it's probably crap wagyu anyways
                                                                                                                                      d) They figure that they're gonna sell the things based on the name, so take less care with them.

                                                                                                                                      I always want to punch people who talk about getting "kobe burgers" for absurdly low prices - "The $8 kobe burger was great!". There's no way that's kobe.

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                                                                                                                                        hiddenboston Apr 23, 2009 01:22 PM

                                                                                                                                        $8 (chuckle)....there's a sucker born every minute, I guess.

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                                                                                                                                          Eatin in Woostah Apr 26, 2009 08:24 PM

                                                                                                                                          Hey, I resemble that remark! ;) But seriously, I remember a serious markup for the "kobe" on the menu, though I'm sure it wasn't actual kobe. I don't fully understand the rules around beef labeling - they seem to have changed over the past couple of years.

                                                                                                                                          For the record, I had the Paris burger - Brie / Fried Egg / Caramelized Onion / Truffle Mayo on Sesame Seed Bun.

                                                                                                                                          Even the fried egg was overcooked. It may have sat under heat lamps for too long.

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                                                                                                                              porcospino Jan 8, 2009 01:13 PM

                                                                                                                              Craigie on Main. Best burger in town. So simple, but perfectly seasoned meat (local, grass-fed). Rich, but wonderful. And (thankfully) not on a brioche.

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                                                                                                                                jgg13 Jan 8, 2009 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                I thought it was very good, and would definitely get it again if I was at the bar and hungry. I have a hard time justifying an $18 burger though, and would normally stop a block short and hit up the Miracle of Science

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                                                                                                                                  dfan Apr 10, 2009 09:28 AM

                                                                                                                                  Here's a great report on the Craigie burger: http://www.goodeater.org/2/post/2009/...

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                                                                                                                                    kimfair1 Apr 10, 2009 09:45 AM

                                                                                                                                    I recently tried the Craigie burger, and man was it good. Yes, it's expensive, but you do get a frisee salad and great crisy sweet potato strings. But the burger itself is the beefiest best burger I've had in town.

                                                                                                                                2. ChickenBrocandZiti Feb 1, 2009 12:27 PM

                                                                                                                                  My original post on this subject mentioned Ashmont Grill and it is a worthy burger but I have seen the light. Last week in Baltimore I had a five guys burger and it was the best burger I have had since In 'n Out. Truly a transcendent burger.

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                                                                                                                                    Blumie Feb 2, 2009 08:24 AM

                                                                                                                                    "it was the best burger I have had since In 'n Out."

                                                                                                                                    Sorry, but your rec of a five guy burger lost all credibility with me with the above-quoted statement. In 'n' Out may be good as far as fast food burgers go, but it's no competition for a real burger and does not (IMHO of course!) belong on a "best of" list.

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                                                                                                                                      TPistrix Feb 2, 2009 09:30 AM

                                                                                                                                      I sort of agree and disagree with both Ziti and Blumie. Five Guys' main competition (if not direct regional competition) is the In 'n Out, fast-food, thin patty, loaded with toppings style burger. This is, to me, entirely distinct from the huge wad of meat burgers. Both have their place. I will say that Five Guys is definitely in the same ballpark as In 'n Out as among the class of the fast food style burgers. I feel that the large/gourmet burgers are just a totally different category and it's not really fair to compare the two.

                                                                                                                                      On that note, I have to say I was slightly disappointed with the burger at Marliave. While it was quite tasty, it was taller than it was wide, which is quite an issue when you start to think about it. The meat was flavorful and very tender, which was perhaps its ultimate downfall. The burger did not hold together at all, and under the strain of my biting into it basically spilled out between the buns. Tasty, juicy, but a big mess. Not an abomination by any means, but maybe not what I'd hoped it would be.

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                                                                                                                                      bakerboyz Feb 2, 2009 08:37 AM

                                                                                                                                      I, too, really enjoyed my last 5 Guys burger with the "works" and fries, very tasty indeed, especially with all the flavorful toppings; that said, not even close to the "best" burger but a very good fast food burger and imho comparable to In-N-Out, which is also a good fast food burger but not a "great" burger.

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                                                                                                                                      tamerlanenj Feb 9, 2009 06:19 AM

                                                                                                                                      The people knocking fast food style burgers are crazy. They are just as legitimate as the huge pub and restaurant burgers that everyone else is talking about. They are meat grilled or griddled and put on a bun. Whether the meat is thin or thick is a matter of personal taste: whether you prefer your heft to come from one thick patty or two thin patties doubled up is also personal taste. Whether you are served it by a waiter and charged $12 or served at a walkup counter for $5 is completely immaterial to the quality of the meal.

                                                                                                                                      I see NO reason not to put UBurger and Flat Patties up against O'Sullivan's and Radius. I have to see, Flat Patties might be my favorite burger in the city: the first bite is like an explosion of greasy, juicy goodness. I'd take it over the dried out lumps of sirloin at Sully's ANY day.

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                                                                                                                                        Blumie Feb 9, 2009 09:23 AM

                                                                                                                                        Of course fast food burgers are "just as legitimate" as other burgers, but they're generally not the same quality of restaurant burgers. And as someone who dissed the fastfood burgers, I can assure you that doing so does not equate with a preference for huge burgers. I happen to think Bartley's makes Boston's best burger. It is neither a fast food burger nor a huge burger. It's just friggin' delicious! UBurger and In 'n' Out make good fast food-style burgers. They don't compare to Bartley's. (IMHO, of course!)

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                                                                                                                                          tamerlanenj Feb 9, 2009 10:07 AM

                                                                                                                                          I disagree entirely. Quality has nothing to do with style, AT ALL. U Burger uses fresh, house ground beef. Shake Shack uses brisket from Eleven Madison Park. These are quality burgers that just happen to be "fast food style."

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                                                                                                                                            Blumie Feb 9, 2009 10:17 AM

                                                                                                                                            Well, there's clearly no precise definition on what constitutes "fast food style," so let's not get caught up in it. In Boston, though, I much prefer Bartley's to U Burger (even though I like U Burger), and in NYC I much prefer the burger joint to the Shake Shack (even though I like Shake Shack). (I consider Bartley's and burger joint to be restaurant burgers and U Burger and Shake Shack to be fast food burgers, but again let's just debate the burgers and not the definitions.)

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                                                                                                                                            Gabatta Jul 27, 2009 08:20 PM

                                                                                                                                            Fantastic burger (Bill Clinton) at Bartley's on Saturday. Perfectly medium rare and juice practically dripping down my chin. Couple it with piping hot onion rings and it was the ideal handover cure. Burgers really don't get much better.

                                                                                                                                        2. hiddenboston Feb 9, 2009 10:50 AM

                                                                                                                                          I may have a new favorite now that I've finally gotten to Five Guys Burgers (see my separate post on this). I liked it better than O'Sullivan's, Zon's, and Mr. Bartley's, and thought that it gave UBurger a run for its money, too.

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                                                                                                                                            bakerboyz Feb 9, 2009 11:37 AM

                                                                                                                                            Just curious, but did you get it loaded because I got mine loaded and really enjoyed it but to be perfectly honest with all the great toppings I could barely taste the burger...I really enjoyed it, however. Not sure how it would be plain or with just ketchup.

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                                                                                                                                              hiddenboston Feb 9, 2009 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                                              No, I got mine about as plain as you can get it (cheese and lettuce and nothing else). I generally don't like putting too many toppings on my burgers, unless those toppings are several different types of cheeses. :-D

                                                                                                                                          2. fecalface Feb 13, 2009 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                                            I'm part of the camp that likes to separate burgers into two categories - fast food and pub styles. I've been on a similar quest recently re: pub burgers - I'm now sold on the Druid.

                                                                                                                                            I think the Druid is the most under-rated pub style burger in Boston. Comes on an excellent roll, always cooked perfectly, meat has some herbs in it (which purists may hate but I enjoy), and the onion it comes with is grilled. I usually get it with cheese, they give you a good-quality cheddar by default. The Druid's burger gets the details right, which makes all the difference.

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                                                                                                                                              SALee Feb 13, 2009 01:33 PM

                                                                                                                                              I think my favorite burger pub style is Washington Square Tavern in Brookline. Great burger, choice of cheddar or bleu and awesome thin fries.

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                                                                                                                                                maillard Mar 12, 2009 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                WST is also my favorite by far. The fries are fantastic, though I sometimes get brussel sprouts instead.

                                                                                                                                            2. fillefield Feb 18, 2009 02:08 PM

                                                                                                                                              The Marvin Haggler at Coolidge Corner Clubhouse is one of my favorites: bacon and blue cheese. They have about 16 burgers to choose from. You also get a massive pile of fries. Definitely not a gourmet meal but more than worth trying. Also don't order it as take out because it gets cold freakishly fast. Eat there and watch a sports game.

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                                                                                                                                                Richard Hurts Mar 9, 2009 05:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                Tried Five Guys over the weekend. Outstanding burger. The meat was fresh, tons of cheese. Fresh french fries.

                                                                                                                                                The only problem was the wait. It was PACKED.

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                                                                                                                                                  chowciao Mar 12, 2009 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Was going to mention Five Guys as well..loved it all - the cheeseburger, the oustanding handcut fries. Yum! Well worth the wait, I think.

                                                                                                                                                2. Snoop37 Mar 14, 2009 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                  I think the best burger ive ever had was at Sel De La Terre in the natick mall, it was outstanding. I've been back three times and its consistently good.

                                                                                                                                                  1. yumyum Apr 10, 2009 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                    I've been holding out on this one, but I recently took a friend to Green Street for their burger and he confirmed that it deserves to be in the top-5 list. It's two thinnish patties, like a Big Mac, so you can't really get it rare, but it's juicy, meaty, and really really good. Topped with bacon, cheddar, Russian dresssing and served with their awesome house-cooked potato chips. No pesky brioche, either. $11 and worth it.

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                                                                                                                                                      chickendhansak May 28, 2009 01:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Spot on.

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                                                                                                                                                      cpingenot Apr 10, 2009 03:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                      In the fancy burger category, I'll nominate Houston's "california" burger (which I don't think is on the menu, but they keep making it for me). Good flavor and consistency to the meat, always cooked right to order, nice combination of lemon dressed arrugula and buttery avocado toppings, and thin and crispy "frites" style fries. I'll have to try the SDLT burger though now after all the rec's.

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                                                                                                                                                        bee Apr 11, 2009 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                        I actually have found I really like the burgers (and fries) at All Star Sandwich in Inman Sq. (nights only for burgers, I think)

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                                                                                                                                                          lola22 May 26, 2009 03:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                          I lurve a great burger. To me, a great burger is NOT a sirloin burger. I do not like O'Sullivan's for this reason. No flavor in a pure sirloin burger.

                                                                                                                                                          A great burger is is ground round or chuck, at least 15% fat. Believe it or not, I am loving the burger at Pizzeria Uno's with their sauce and Watch City in Waltham has a great burger too. Watch City also has a great lamb burger but that is off topic. Or is it?!

                                                                                                                                                          Then there is always the Miracle of Science. Great burger there too.

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                                                                                                                                                            Gabatta May 26, 2009 04:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Had an excellent burger at BLT Burger in Vegas recently. They describe their mix as 100% Certified Black Angus beef burgers - a combination of sirloin, short rib, chuck and brisket cut. Cooked to perfection, it worked for me.

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                                                                                                                                                              ScubaSteve May 26, 2009 05:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                              last time i oredered a burger at Uno's they would only cook to medium well or better. has this policy changed?

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                                                                                                                                                                lola22 May 28, 2009 12:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                Hi SS, I have gotten medium there, and medium rare there I think too.

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                                                                                                                                                                  nsenada Jul 9, 2009 12:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  The one in Dedham will do them medium rare, and I agree that their burger is really good, much as I hate to admit it. Their pizza on the other hand, was gross last time I got it, and much worse than I remember it from when they first opened around these parts. It tasted like a dry biscuit filled with stewed tomatoes.

                                                                                                                                                            2. Bob Dobalina May 27, 2009 06:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                              I like Bartley's, O'Sullivan's and several others listed on this board...and I hate to say it...but the ~$8 bacon cheeseburger I had recently at the Five Guys in the friggin' airport (concourse A at Reagan National) put all of them to shame! And great fries too. I couldn't believe it.

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                                                                                                                                                                ssfdlvr May 27, 2009 12:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                did i miss something at flat patties? I thought it was horrible and on top of that, was just a messy burger. The other one I don't like that everyone raves about is b.goods which was plain and had no taste. Mr Bartley's is just the best.

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                                                                                                                                                                  BarmyFotheringayPhipps May 27, 2009 03:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  People rave about B. Good? Wow.

                                                                                                                                                                  If Bartley's is your gold standard, you are unlikely to like Flat Patties, and vice versa. They are simply two different things.

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                                                                                                                                                                    thegirlwholovestoeat May 28, 2009 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    People go to b.good for a different reason all together. The reason they rave about it is because they can get a turkey burger with turkey bacon and reduced fat cheese on a wheat bun - not because their burgers are particularly tasty.

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                                                                                                                                                                  jmf2188 May 27, 2009 03:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  union street bar and grille in newton has AMAZING burgers and also bristol lounge at the four seasons has a delicious basic burger and yummy fries.

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                                                                                                                                                                    twentyoystahs May 27, 2009 05:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, the Bristol burger is excellent. Expensive, but really delicious.

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                                                                                                                                                                    hdaemon Jul 10, 2009 07:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    I haven't seen anyone mention Boston Burger Company in Davis Square. While their menu definitely wanders a bit into the bizarre (a battered deep-fried burger???), I think they turn out a really good basic burger. And if you happen to want something a little more, they've got that too.

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                                                                                                                                                                      chickendhansak Jul 10, 2009 03:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Nearly all of the posts in this thread are older than the restaurant, from the looks of it.

                                                                                                                                                                      I haven't been there but am looking forward to trying it.

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                                                                                                                                                                        yumyum Jul 10, 2009 03:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        I posted about this a while ago. Don't bother, the burgers at BBC are not worth a trip.

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                                                                                                                                                                          jgg13 Jul 10, 2009 06:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          i went there once. my deep fried burger was waaaaay over cooked (I make deep fried burgers myself, it's not that hard to cook them), DC's burger was really bad, service was bad, and they were quite clearly not cooking burgers to order

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                                                                                                                                                                      cornicecream Jul 10, 2009 03:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      I would second the Garden at the Cellar (either up top or more casually in the basement bar). The burger is locally grown beef, cheddar, aioli arugula, $9. Rosemary truffle fries on the side are addictive!

                                                                                                                                                                      1. Bob Dobalina Jul 15, 2009 06:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        A lot of talk over the years about experiences of overcooked burgers at R.F. O'Sullivan's...

                                                                                                                                                                        Just want to note that last night, I had a perfectly cooked medium rare burger, perhaps the best burger I've had there (based on sample size of about a dozen visits over the years). Also, would note that the steak fries, although not the style I like, were at least properly fried - they arrived VERY hot and cooked thoroughly, but not heavy with grease. Again, as good an example of that type of fry as I have had recently. The onion rings were also on the mark. Overall, I still would not rank the burger as the best I've had in the world - the meat is somewhat bland by default - but it was excellent - I got it topped with cheese, roasted red peppers, tomato and lettuce, peppercorn dressing - an abomination to you purists out there, and I also ate it with a knife and fork - ha!

                                                                                                                                                                        In any case, I think the waitress said that Julio was on the grill / kitchen last night. If so, he knows what he's doing!

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                                                                                                                                                                          jgg13 Jul 15, 2009 07:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, when they're on, they're on. I just got tired of dealing with them being off at least half of the time :)

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                                                                                                                                                                            BJK Jul 15, 2009 05:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I realize O'Sullivan's inspires something of a religious debate on the board, but I have to offer kudos to Kenji Alt for the most definitive smack down on all of Sully's faults, from under-seasoned meat, to unmelted cheese, to those awful fries. Full details and photo evidence here:

                                                                                                                                                                            http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2...

                                                                                                                                                                            BK

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                                                                                                                                                                              Bob Dobalina Jul 16, 2009 05:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              I am no apostle for RFO'S, and have had burgers / fries there that looked like the photos on Kenji's blog - which is why I posted in this instance - at least on this one evening, the stars aligned.

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                                                                                                                                                                                treb Jul 16, 2009 06:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                You just mentioned why I can't stand RFO's, "the stars aligned".

                                                                                                                                                                                In fact, IMO, that goes for any restaurant. If I have to hope that my timing is good and the stars have to be aligned to get a good meal, or in this case a burger, then I'm not going to patronize that place. Afterall, RFO's gets a good price for those plates they serve. I'd rather opt for a place that's consistantly good not meh.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Bob Dobalina Jul 16, 2009 06:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I totally agree! I only wander there maybe twice a year. I guess my hope in posting is that this very positive sign might lead to visits/comments from other hounds who can confirm whether this is an upswing in quality or an aberration.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    TomH Jul 16, 2009 06:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Maybe I have just been lucky but living fairly close to RFO's I have been the six or seven times in the past couple of years and have never been disappointed. Burgers have been perfectly cooked and fries and onion rings that were fresh and crispy. As a matter of fact I am due for another visit soon!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    jgg13 Jul 16, 2009 08:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    That's pretty much my point as well ... that the stars can align, and when they do it's pretty good. It's just up to the individual to decide if it's worth dealing with them when things are unaligned (and for me, it ain't)

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                                                                                                                                                                              velotrain Jul 15, 2009 03:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              When I first moved to Boston, I went to Bartleys and ordered a blue cheese burger. The burger came topped with blue cheese salad dressing. The waiter tried to claim it was in fact blue cheese, but I knew better. I should have walked out and didn't, but have never returned since.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Joanie Jul 16, 2009 04:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                I hate when people advertise blue cheese burgers and put dressing on (this happened to me once at Miracle of Science), but I really think the Bartley's burger is pretty tasty with a slice of plain ole cheddar. Or none at all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  fmcoxe6188 Jul 16, 2009 06:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hmm I think that they may have corrected this- a DC got the blue cheese burger (under a different name of course) and it appeared to be actual crumbled blue cheese. Though this was a bit over a year ago so I might be out of date

                                                                                                                                                                                2. yumyum Jul 24, 2009 07:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  So, the Radius burger was called one of epicurious's top 12 burgers in the country. Is this true? Is it that good?

                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.epicurious.com/articlesgui...

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                                                                                                                                                                                    barleywino Jul 24, 2009 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    naahh...not juicy and messy enough...celebrity chef hype

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                                                                                                                                                                                      rlh Jul 25, 2009 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      No way - a co-worker got it for lunch a few months ago and it was a dry, sawdust-like hockey puck - WAY overworked and compacted as well as overcooked - maybe a bad day with a new person in the kitchen, but she didn't eat and doesn't want to go back to Radius as a result.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        nsenada Jul 27, 2009 01:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I've had it a couple of times, and agree that it is an amazing burger, despite the hype. The meat was coarsely ground, with a very beefy flavor. It held together beautifully, was not too dense, and glistened (to me, in a good way) like tartare. The horseradish cream, crispy onions and cheese were excellent toppings, but if I have any complaint, it is that the whole package was a bit salty for my taste both times. I would say it is one of the best burgers I have ever had, and the quality of the meat really sets it apart from a traditional burger (too fancy to be called a "burger.")

                                                                                                                                                                                      2. yumyum Oct 1, 2009 11:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        You know who has a great burger? Atasca, the Portuguese place in Cambridge. The meat contains a bit of chorizo and it's served on a yummy Portuguese roll with tangy St. Jorge cheese. Perfectly cooked, served with their delicious fried potatoes. At $8.95 it is a bargain.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Joanie Oct 1, 2009 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I can't believe this thread's been going on exactly a year. And the "where have you always had a bad meal" for 3 years. Time flies.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            yumyum Oct 1, 2009 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Burgers are important, Joanie.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Joanie Oct 2, 2009 06:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              True that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Alcachofa Oct 1, 2009 11:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Ooo, I think I would like a little chorizo more than a little bone marrow. But I need to try them both.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              yumyum Oct 1, 2009 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I still need to try the bone marrow. Whenever -- you name it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Blumie Oct 1, 2009 12:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I just moved a few blocks away from Craigie. I'd join you guys!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  nsenada Oct 1, 2009 01:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  One thing I forgot to mention, I think the burger is only on the bar menu, so I would check to see if they would serve it at a table.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              elbev Oct 13, 2009 01:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Had the Atasca burger the other day. Very good, and I liked the S. Jorge sharpness and the texture and smoke the chorico adds. Definitely not a contender for Best Burger, though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              bear Oct 4, 2009 05:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              My husband and I had terrific burgers at 75 Chestnut a couple of weeks ago. Perfectly medium rare, juicy and flavorful. Crispy, creamy and fairly thin fries, too. Would definitely go back for a burger on a nice night and enjoy the walk around Charles St. afterward.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                kimfair1 Oct 5, 2009 10:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                The board wouldn't let me reply to the question about Craigie, but the burger is ONLY on the bar menu. As far as I know, it is NOT available in the restaurant. The bar has access to the full menu and the bar menu.The bar menu also has the crispy fried pig tails, one of the best bites in Boston.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Tir_na_nOg Oct 7, 2009 03:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Also, the bar is very tiny. Good luck getting a seat at the usual times (I had to eat mine standing!).

                                                                                                                                                                                                2. rchudy Oct 6, 2009 10:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I still say there aren't any amazing one's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. rchudy Oct 7, 2009 07:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    clearly I was referring to burgers, as this is a thread about burgers...
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've tried a good amount thus far, I have a blog if you want to check it out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Blumie Oct 7, 2009 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If your blog is any indication, you've barely scratched the surface. So how can you conclude that "there aren't any amazing one's" (sic)? That's just silly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tir_na_nOg Oct 7, 2009 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, you did score 7 different Boston burgers in the 81-90 point "very good" category and you apparently haven't tried the Cragie burger yet. Personally I prefer the Miracle of Science burger, but in my extensive research I have found that 75% of burger eaters [n=4] think the Cragie is the best burger they've ever had.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        [rant] Not to get off subject, but IMHO, quantitatively scoring food (or wine) is a meaningless exercise. Taste is subjective, even for the same taster. There is endless research describing how expert tasters can not be trusted. Describe what it tastes like and why you liked it or didn't like it and leave it at that. There's too much "I know food and you don't" on this board these days...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Who cares what "Robert Parker" thinks, if you actually like it? Personally, I like some pretty awful things!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Blumie Oct 8, 2009 05:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          In addition to Craigie (which I have not tried), let me throw out Mistral (which I have tried and which is great -- even "amazing," perhaps) and Radius (another I have not tried) as two more burgers you and your blogger buddy ought to try.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            barleywino Dec 1, 2009 05:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            revisited the burger at Radius. have to downgrade it-- not juicy (although medium rare), a bit hard in fact, bun dry, fries average. battered onions and horseradish aioli were tasty could not save this burger. factor in the $19 price and i think i'll pass from now on.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              rlh Dec 2, 2009 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Same burger experience a few months ago - seemed like good meat overground/overhanded to the point of dense sawdust hockey puck like texture.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                nsenada Dec 2, 2009 09:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Guess I won't be spending my $19 burger allowance there again any time soon. I think the Craigie one ruined me for anywhere else, in any case.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  phatchris Dec 2, 2009 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Give the Neptuneburger a shot, for $19 you can get the burger and an IPA.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          rchudy Oct 8, 2009 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I don't remember making a conclusion. Just a fact that I have yet to be blow away yet, I like Flippin Burgers but who knows what it will be like now that its under a new name. Yes, I have just scratched the surface, but I have to start somewhere.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Blumie Oct 8, 2009 07:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Your own words above: "I still say there aren't any amazing one's." Is that not a conclusion? Are we all supposed to know that you're just talking about the handful of burgers you've tried?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Gabatta Oct 7, 2009 08:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          yawn

                                                                                                                                                                                                        4. Snoop37 Oct 8, 2009 06:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ah the burger debate rages on. After reading this thread, I always feel a need to go on my own burger quest to try all these great options. In effort to do this I guess I'll do what I do best. Make a list! I'm going to try and consolidate some of the more consistent recs I've seen, so here we go:

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Fancy Burgers
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Abe and Louie's ($13)
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Radius ($17)
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Bristol Lounge ($20)
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Bouchee ($25)
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Craigie on Main ($18)
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Gargoyles on the Square ($10)
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Sel de le Terre in Natick ($11.95) this is personally my favorite burger in Boston so far... but I haven't tried many of the above or below

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Not-so-expensive Burgers
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - RF O'Sullivan's and Son
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Audubon Circle
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Flat Patties
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Five Guys
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Coda
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Bartley's Burger Cottage
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Wild Willy's
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Miracle of Science
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Grumpy White's
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Boston Burger Co
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Green Street
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Highland Kitchen

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Just Added:
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Four Burgers
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Silvertone
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Uburger
                                                                                                                                                                                                          - Mistral

                                                                                                                                                                                                          (Flippin' Burgers would have been on this list, but they're closed! New burger joint setting up shop in their old place though)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            MC Slim JB Oct 8, 2009 07:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Some perhaps-unconventional candidates for your list:

                                                                                                                                                                                                            "Kobe" sliders at Toro
                                                                                                                                                                                                            "Kobe" burger at Estragon (with tetilla, mmmm, and optional fried egg)
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Patty melt at Jim's Deli, Brighton Center
                                                                                                                                                                                                            "Paddy O'Melt" (a Reuben-like burger treatment) at The Junction, Southie
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Four Burgers, Central Square
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Silvertone, Downtown Crossing

                                                                                                                                                                                                            And stretching now (but worthwhile nonetheless):

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Beef chimi at Alex's Chimis, JP
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kubideh wrap at Pita Kabob, Downtown Crossing

                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              justbeingpolite Oct 8, 2009 07:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              You're missing UBurger, too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Blumie Oct 8, 2009 08:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Also missing from your list is the wonderful at-the-bar-only buger at Mistral. (Being Mistral, it goes on the expensive list, of course!)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  phatchris Oct 8, 2009 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'd add Neptune to your list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Snoop37 Oct 8, 2009 09:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    haha neptune? I've never heard about a burger from neptune before. I can no longer edit my list, sorry.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      phatchris Oct 8, 2009 02:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Its a pretty kick ass burger with fried oysters, mayo, and relish.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        twentyoystahs Oct 19, 2009 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Second Neptune. Those fried oysters put it right over the edge, but it's delicious.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And FWIW, the Abe & Louis burger is the same as the Joe's American Bar and Grill burger (both owned by Boston Restaurant Group)...except I believe Joe's is just a little bit less expensive (maybe more like $10?)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        They are both good burgers, but IMO you really can't single one out over the other....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    bear Oct 8, 2009 10:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The 75 Chestnut burger is mighty fine, too, and only$10, or $11 with bacon or cheese.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Alcachofa Oct 8, 2009 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      After several tries, I would not place 75 Chestnut on any best of list. It's OK if your there, but simply not that great. Very ordinary at best. Even Harvard Gardens' burger is much better that 75's, and I wouldn't put HG on a best of list.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes, I've been wanting to try the Neptune burger for a while now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      itaunas Oct 8, 2009 10:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Price probably isn't best way to sort, pub vs flat patty (which contrary to general opinion actually have a fairly long history in the area). In the flat its also worth considering Mangia Mangia in the North End and Celebrity in Watertown. For the pub burger and non-conventional, the Druid. Sully's in season is better for dogs, but its a local landmark. I am with MCSlimJB that the patty melt gets overlooked too much here and if you go non-conventional a X-tudo should be considered (Pastelaria Vitoria Broadway in Somerville is the best option).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        rchudy Oct 8, 2009 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I agree. There has to be some division, in some form, whether it be between east vs. west coast, or different pricing levels. or perhaps the places with higher prices/reputations are just held to a higher standard.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          BarmyFotheringayPhipps Oct 8, 2009 12:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'll bite. What's an X-tudo?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            itaunas Oct 8, 2009 01:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The actual burger patty is secondary (frozen patty, usually dry), so it may not be to your liking, but its a Brazilian overstuffed burger. In addition to what I mention below, it comes with lettuce/tomato, etc. Brazilians often squeeze mayo and ketchup directly onto each bite before taking it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5875...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            To be clear, its not my idea of the best burger in town, but an occasional guilty pleasure. However, in the context of a laundry list of burgers to try, I think it does fit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              jgg13 Oct 13, 2009 12:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks for posting that link ... i see that I thanked you the first time around w/ intentinos of trying them out, and then promptly forgot :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              elbev Oct 13, 2009 01:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The X-tudo is a wonderful thing. A bit like the Uraguayan-Argentine sandwich the Chivito Canadiense (only difference being that is with steak instead of patty). You can also get it with chicken. To avoid confusion (since the good folks at Pasteleria Vitoria speak mostly Portuguese), note that it is pronounced 'sheesh-tudo'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                itaunas Oct 13, 2009 01:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                PV does offer a x-filet, which is with steak but the quality varies quite a bit. And you can order one with "bifes" of chicken and steak. There are a fair amount of off menu variations you can request, but its a bit harder if you don't speak Portuguese. One important note is the pastels are filled to order, so you can choose multiple fillings (such as ground beef and palmito, or even three, plus the romeu e julieta which I always mention guava/cheese -- just avoid the banana combo on one of their menus).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  elbev Oct 13, 2009 02:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks, itaunas, for the tip on the pastels. Your pic reminds me that PV also offers the highly addicting cashew fruit ('caju') juice. I find the beverage - which has a complex and subtle taste that is not much like that of the nut - a perfect accompaniment to the incredibly heavy sandwich. This is also available at the Salvadorean places in the area as marañon juice. None of this has anything to do with burgers, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. hotoynoodle Oct 13, 2009 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          steakhouses are my fave places for burgers. the ones that use prime beef make their burgers fresh from the trimmings. this includes abe & louie's, fleming's, ruth's chris and even smith & wollensky. yes, they're expensive, but always more food than i can finish.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i recently had a killer burger at fleming's with sauteed mushrooms and bearnaise sauce.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            typhoonfish Oct 20, 2009 11:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Morton's is now selling their burgers (from Allen Brothers) online.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Blumie Oct 18, 2009 09:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just returned home from Craigie, and there's no doubt in my mind: best burger I've ever had. Period. Would've preferred something other than the matchstick fries they serve, but the burger itself was extraordinary -- discernibly different, and better, than any I've ever had.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              rchudy Oct 20, 2009 11:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              awesome! It will probably be the next burger I try. How do you feel about spending that much on a burger? Was it worth it? Is it really a burger or is it too fancy to be considered as such? Do tell...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Blumie Oct 20, 2009 11:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It's really a very different product than what you get down the street at Bartley's. Will I get it again? Absolutely. But I'll also get a Bartley's burger again, too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  messyheat Oct 24, 2009 09:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  how much was the burger at craigie?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Blumie Oct 24, 2009 10:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    $18

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      jgg13 Nov 10, 2009 09:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      BTW according to their twitter feed, here's the seasonal update for the burger:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Burger Seasonal Update: now topped w celeryroot slaw,red wiine pickles, Shelburne Frms cheddar.Took a while for cukes to pickle. Ready now

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        twentyoystahs Nov 20, 2009 05:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I might be the only person in Boston proper who feels this way, but I thought the Craigie burger was just "ok..." It was good, don't get me wrong, but I didn't find it amazing, and felt like I have had comparable burgers for half the price.....(i.e. one of my favorite standby's for a classic burger & fries is Costello's, in JP --i think their burger is something like 7 bucks...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          observor Nov 20, 2009 01:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I could believe it. I had an $18 burger that was completely mediocre and small and (probably purposefully) didn't indicate it came with potato chips so I got home fries with it for $7.50! $25.50 for a pathetic, too rare burger and potatoes that could have come from a Denny's. Then I have had a burger at half-price burger night in a wing place that was good for $3.50 (of course it may just be very fatty which makes it taste so nice), so price definitely can have nothing to do with quality...but because it is so pricey I bet it makes people say it's amazing because they think it is supposed to be.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            nsenada Nov 20, 2009 03:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Actually, I got mine for free, so according to the immutable rule of higher price =better, it should have sucked. You're of course entitled to your opinion, but I stand by mine: best burger evar. I also would be curious to know exacly what made it "mediocre" - texture, flavor...? I know you mentioned it was undercooked - how do you normally like your burgers?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              observor Nov 20, 2009 03:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What burger did you get free, I don't see your post. Mediocre: small, completely unseasoned, rare when it had been requested slightly pink, unnotable roll. It didn't taste like much of anything except pure raw beef. I complained, which is completely justified for an $18 burger and they invited me back to try an updated burger...this one was huge, way too salty, and overcooked! I am not kidding you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                observor Nov 20, 2009 03:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Mine was not the Craigie burger, it was elsewhere.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ac106 Nov 20, 2009 04:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  By all means continue to be vague and evasive and not name the place you got it at.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    nsenada Nov 20, 2009 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That clears it up - all 18 dollar burgers aren't created equal. The craigie one is really worth it, I think.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Snoop37 Nov 20, 2009 08:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ahhh but doesnt everything taste better when its free ;) haha

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      observor Nov 21, 2009 05:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I was thinking that...it might not have been so great if he had spent 20 bucks on it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        twentyoystahs Nov 21, 2009 05:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I had my burger for free at Craigie (courtesy of my sister, who bought my birthday dinner) and I still didn't think it was all that great. It WAS good, but...I don't know, though i wasn't paying, still didn't think it warranted the $18 price tag. Maybe you pay that for local, grass-fed beef...? But taste-wise, not-so-different from other good burgers around town. Certainly in that same league, though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          observor Nov 21, 2009 06:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It is sad that to have quality you have to unload your entire income. I like quality, but it's like humans understand what quality is so they make everyone pay incredible amounts to have it. I am sure it is a fantastic burger, but, again, is it justified for 20+ dollars when you can have a good burger at much less than that? That said, I would love to line up these 15-20 dollar burgers and find out who the real king of the mass is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  jgg13 Nov 23, 2009 06:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I might have already mentioned it in this thread but i think the burgers can be a bit inconsistent - I chalk it up to them changing the way it's made here & there to fit what they have (different pickles, tomatoes, cheese, etc)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        very impressed with the Eastern Standard burger.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          tamerlanenj Nov 21, 2009 04:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Good burger, awful bun.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ceo Nov 10, 2009 11:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have to agree about Boston Burger; nothing all that special and the fries are lousy (and cost extra). And to think we could have gotten Ten Tables in that space if they'd been able to get a liquor license.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Truth be known, I had one of the best burgers I've ever had the other night, and I made it my very own self. Good grass-fed beef with chopped onions mixed in, grilled just right, some organic Monterey Jack melted on top and spicy seedy mustard on a freshly home-baked bun.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            rchudy Nov 12, 2009 11:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I like the benefits of grass-fed, but my one experience (at wild willy's) I didn't love.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            observor Nov 19, 2009 05:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have sampled 23 burgers here in Charleston, SC, and most of them have been rather poor. But I still remember the fantastic burger I had at Audubon Circle...it was very delicious, a good size, and reasonably priced. Most of the burgers I have had here have been tiny! Maybe it is the economy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              kalidaemon Nov 23, 2009 07:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It might be a chain, but the best burger by far in the Boston area is 5 Guys Burgers N Fries in Dedham. It's on par with In-N-Out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                rchudy Nov 23, 2009 07:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                have to disagree with 5 guys, taste that meat again, its extremely poor quality. for fast food style, I'll take Flat patties any day.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Gabatta Nov 23, 2009 08:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I enjoy 5G, and it may be one of the better fast food type burger to be had around these parts, but in NO WAY is it on par with In-n-Out, nor is it the "best burger" by far in the Boston area.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    observor Nov 23, 2009 04:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Taste the meat of Five Guys without the decent bun and toppings...I am sure that it gets so much attention because it is well arranged, but it has actually not much flavor.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. yumyum Nov 23, 2009 08:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'd like to throw the burger at Central Kitchen (lunch) into the ring for your consideration. I forget exactly how much it is ($11 or $12?) but it is one tasty offering. Super juicy, thicker style but not a burger ball like Sullivan's. I bet the toppings vary, since this seems to be CK's thing, but mine had sharp VT cheddar, pickles, tomatoes and some kind of "special" sauce that was your basic 1000 Isle variety. Served with a bowl of their excellent frites.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyway, if you are trying all the burgers in town, this one deserves a look. What I'd like to do is try a horizontal tasting of this one, Miracle of Science, and Four burgers since they are all within limping distance of each other. I have a feeling CK would come out on top.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    chickendhansak Nov 23, 2009 08:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You could limp to Green Street too -- I certainly would. The MoS burger with the jalapenos in it is surprisingly good despite the fact that the jalapenos are (IIRC) part of the ground beef mixture. OTOH, I had the Christopher's burger that was "stuffed" with mushrooms the other day, and it was surprisingly bad, and not stuffed with mushrooms at all, but rather chopped mushrooms were part of the mixture, and this, along with the bun, gave it all a mealy texture.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      nsenada Nov 23, 2009 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Blech - I hate when there's anything other than meat and seasonings in a beef burger.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Joanie Nov 23, 2009 08:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I don't mind as long as they tell me in advance. That's why I'm not on the Druid's bandwagon with their weird seasonings.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          nsenada Nov 23, 2009 08:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I think I'd be OK with very finely chopped jalapenos, but definitely not mushrooms. I was raised with burgers containing onions and peppers, and didn't realize I hated them until I had a plain burger for the first time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I was thinking of trying The Druid's burger - what are the "secret hobo spices" they use in it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            yumyum Nov 23, 2009 09:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Sssshhhhhh grated ginger.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It really works, but not for everyone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              nsenada Nov 23, 2009 09:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wow - that's not a flavor I would ever associate with a burger. However, I could see how it might work, not really too much different than a pork and ginger dumpling in basic componentry.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joanie Nov 25, 2009 04:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There's gotta be other stuff in there besides ginger (which I never would have guessed). I definitely get an herb flavor of some sort.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  yumyum Nov 25, 2009 05:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It seems to change every time I ask the guy ... sometimes various fresh herbs ... but the ginger is the "secret" and I think it's yummy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    observor Nov 25, 2009 06:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That sounds compelling. It is quite amazing the variety you can find in hamburgers. People say "It's just a burger" but I have experienced a surprising amount of differences.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            chickendhansak Nov 23, 2009 09:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It makes me think of the Eddie Murphy skit about his mother's burger with green peppers in it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              nsenada Nov 23, 2009 09:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Now that you mention it, I think we had a big block of government cheese that we'd use to garnish those burgers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            yumyum Nov 23, 2009 08:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Green Street is already in my top handful, but it's a different style. Two thin patties instead of one thick one, so you can't get it medium rare. A worthy burg to be sure, just not part of my zombie crawl up Mass Ave.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              rchudy Nov 24, 2009 08:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              anything other than salt and pepper and we're talking meatloaf burgers...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              jgg13 Dec 2, 2009 11:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              the jalapeno burger is the roni burger, I really dig it - particularly due to it being part of the beef mixture.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Compudad9 Dec 2, 2009 09:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Two places that fairly recently opened that serve great burgers:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Dudley Chateau in Wayland
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            On Dudley pond, it recently re-opened (3-4 months ago) after several renovations and the new menu features a burger that is just great. Ambiance is 1920's speakeasy - same floors, ceilings walls, and bar that Babe Ruth and others used to visit on their way home.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Grille 103 in Sudbury, off route 20
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            New family run place, tried it out with my daughter just to see what it was like, and the burgers were the BEST I've had in a long time (and I've tried a LOT of the places mentioned here). Not pricey either. I was not overly impressed with the fries, but the burgers were OUTSTANDING.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              nsenada Dec 2, 2009 09:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That tears it - I'm forcing the family to go the Chat asap. I even drove into the lot once, and my wife, a Wayland native familiar with its terrifying past (her uncle was a Wayland cop, and would tell us hair-raising stories of bloody mayhem there) refused to enter the place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Snoop37 Dec 2, 2009 01:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              You know who has a great burger? Whole Foods. And you know who is capable of grilling them to perfection? You are. If you're ever shopping at WF I highly recommend their beef patties in the butcher shop. They have different flavor patties like gorgonzola and tomato or bacon and cheese. In my final year at BC, my roommates and I would spoil ourselves with those patties! We grilled them ourselves medium/rare before the football games and perhaps we were slightly inebriated, but we always thought they were the best burgers we had at any tailgate.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                phatchris Dec 2, 2009 01:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Imo if I'm grilling my own burgers I'm going to a Butcher (Sulmona or Savenors), watching them grind my beef fresh, theneating it as raw as I please.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                caillou Dec 16, 2009 10:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, I may have skimmed a few of the replies but I swear I didn't see my #1 place or another favorite. Pop's in the South End has awesome burgers with a great bun. My favorite in Boston for a pub (thick and juicy) burger. And you can't go wrong with either the fries or the onion rings. Really surprised to not see that mentioned.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Another burger I enjoy is Warren Tavern in Charlestown. Again a pub burger that is delicious, juicy and flavorful.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'll second some of the previous posts on Miracle of Science, Coda and RF O'Sullivans as pub burgers I love.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And Uburger and Five Guys (although haven't been around here, only down in Charlottesville, VA) for fast food style burgers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  twentyoystahs Dec 16, 2009 01:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Haven't had it in a while, but I have had the Pops burger a few times and wasn't that impressed. More of a meatloaf style burger imo w/ a brioche bun (which i'm not crazy about, like others on this board.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am a burger purist --in my opinion, less is more: meat, maybe a little salt and pepper, topped w/cheddar cheese, and a simple bun. A side of piping hot hand cut fries, a frosty mug of beer, and there's nothing better.

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