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Sophique Sep 19, 2003 09:41 PM

Rose Market on Westwood Blvd. offers the most wonderfully exotic sugarfree ice cream for those doing low carb. They call it "Homemade Diet Ice Cream" but the flavor is saffron and rosewater, sweetened with equal. I wasn't able to ask for the carb count (they seemed really busy that night) but being sugarfree is a great start! They also have ready packed pints and gallons in the freezer, though I much prefer getting a couple scoops of the fresh batch in a cup.

It's been a while since I've been to Mashti Malone. I'm hoping they too will have something in the sugarfree arena...

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    lostinspace RE: Sophique Sep 19, 2003 09:46 PM

    31-Flavors has a couple of sugar free, low carb. flavors!

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      Patty RE: lostinspace Sep 20, 2003 09:36 PM

      They're sugar free, but I believe the high milk content makes them virtually the same carb count as regular ice cream. Low carb ice cream needs to be made with pure cream, or cream mixed with coconut milk or something low carb, otherwise the milk takes the count way up...

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        lynnz RE: Patty Sep 21, 2003 02:23 AM

        actually, almost all ice creams have the same carb content, sugar-free or not. ice milk might have a slightly lower carb count. some diet ice actually have more carbs than "regular" ones.

        the only significant nutritional difference between ice cream made with milk vs. cream is fat content.

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          Barry RE: lynnz Sep 21, 2003 09:05 AM

          Sugar is 100% carbohydrate, so removing it from ice cream can drastically reduce carb content.

          And cream has fewer carbs by volume than milk.

          Link: http://www.atkinsfriends.com/carbcoun...

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            lynnz RE: Barry Sep 22, 2003 02:49 AM

            "sugar free" ice creams can still contain a variety of ingredients that boost the carb content, namely sugar alcohols (polyols) such as lactitol and maltitol, which not only sweeten but improve texture.

            more info on ice cream and carbs ---->

            from the American Diabetes Society website:

            "If you are going to choose a full-fat, real-sugar ice cream, be sure to count it as part of your carbohydrate and fat allowance for the day....Ice milk contains less milk fat and milk solids than regular ice cream. The result is a lower-calorie product for the same serving size. You will save fat grams and perhaps lower your carbohydrate intake as well....Fat-free or reduced-fat ice creams have fewer calories but usually about the same amount of carbohydrate. If you use these products, be sure to account for the total carbohydrate content in your overall meal plan."

            from The Heart Center of Indiana website:

            "Your body does not recognize what form of sugar food is in (whether lactose, fructose, simple sugar, etc.) but rather the total carbohydrate. Sugar free foods are a common misconception...It is the belief of many that because a food says sugar free, it is good for them and they can eat as much as they want. Although a food says sugar free or diet, chances are the food still has a fair amount of carbohydrate. It is important to look at the total carbohydrate in a food, rather than just the sugar content.

            We recently looked into purchasing sugar free ice cream for The Heart Center. When comparing the carbohydrates of sugar free to regular ice cream, I noticed that the regular ice cream actually had LESS carbohydrates than the sugar free."

            Colorado State Univ. website:

            "I recently spent a couple of hours in local grocery stores checking labels on ice cream and frozen products checking carbohydrate listings on labels in preparation for a program for the Diabetes Success Group...Here is some information revealed by labels that you may not have read.

            * Beet juice is used for coloring in at least one strawberry-flavored product.
            * Just because the label says the product is fat-free and sugar-free, don’t expect it to be calorie-free.  One brand of vanilla that boasted of being fat-free and sugar-free still had 22 grams of carbohydrates.  The carbs came from the whey solids.  Yes, it was lower in calories, but if you are counting carbohydrates, this product won’t work even if it is sugar-free."

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              Barry RE: lynnz Sep 22, 2003 08:23 AM

              (First, for those who are low-carbing, a great local source of low-carb items is Synergy Diet in Pasadena.
              1840 E. Locust, 877 877-1558, open M-F>5,Sa>4)

              Lynnz, your quotes are lengthy but irrelevant. Absolutely none of that means that your statement "almost all ice creams have the same carb content, sugar-free or not" is true.

              - Do more research, and you will find out that sugar alcohols are not processed as carbohydrates. (In fact, they are not processed at all; that's why having too much of them will send you running to the bathroom.)

              - The Heart Center of Indiana quote has no bearing here; it's another generic statement that doesn't refer to any specific low-CARB (as opposed to sugar-free) ice-cream. (Further, the Heart Center is apparently ignorant of current research showing the importance of the glycemic index, which is how quickly a given amount of a food causes blood sugar to rise. It's why long grain brown rice is better for you than white, and carrot juice is much worse for you than carrots.) Also, just because they found a high-carb sugar-free ice cream doesn't mean that sugar isn't a carb.

              - The Colorado quotes are also both irrelevant. Beet juice is in a product? One brand had 22 grams of carbs? So what? That doesn't prove that all ice creams are the same!

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                lostinspace RE: Barry Sep 22, 2003 10:11 AM

                Barry- I agree with you.
                Lynnz is missing the point.
                Carbolite is a GREAT tasting brand of low-carb snacks.

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                  The Chowhound Team RE: lostinspace Sep 22, 2003 11:03 AM

                  Folks, the board is for discussion of chow in Los Angeles. Please bring any further discussion of nutritional breakdowns, low carb diets, or national brands of low carb ice cream to the appropriate non-regional board (either Not About Food for nutrition and diet discussions or General Topics for ice cream discussions). Further discussion on these topics will be removed from this board in order to keep this board focused on chow in LA.

                  Of course, discussion of where to find low carb foods in the LA area is perfectly appropriate for this board, so please continue on in that direction.

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                    Barry RE: The Chowhound Team Sep 22, 2003 11:34 AM

                    Understood.

                    As far as I know, though, Synergy Diet is the only local So.Cal. outlet that carries a full low-carb line. (Trader Joe's carries some products, especially some amazing low-carb chocolates.)

                    Does anyone know of a low-carb only store on the westside?

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                      Sophique RE: Barry Sep 23, 2003 09:28 PM

                      barry, check out Humphrey's Yogurt on the corner of Westwood and Olympic. while it's not an entire low-carb store, it does carry a good stock of low-carb treats--mostly chocolates, cookies, sauces, chips, and various Atkins products...

                      and of course, they offer Carbolite, which i can't stand b/c of the aftertaste.

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                        lostinspace RE: Sophique Sep 23, 2003 11:42 PM

                        You dead wrong Carbolite.
                        There products are DEElicious.
                        They use Splendra.

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                          Barry RE: Sophique Sep 24, 2003 09:36 AM

                          Thanks. Oddly enough, I think the Bigg Chill across the street @ Westwood & Olympic might have some version of a no-carb yogurt; I'm not sure if it's Carbolite or not.

                          I do remember trying it once (pre going low-carb) and thinking it didn't compare with the real stuff, but it might be an option if someone really needed a fix.

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                    lynnz RE: Barry Sep 22, 2003 01:16 PM

                    Sophique was speaking of a specific, sugar-free, "diet " ice cream in LA.

                    She addressed her post to Atkins or low carb dieters without knowing if the ice cream was low carb at all.

                    I was simply pointing out that it is entirely possible for a sugar-free, or even low-fat, ice cream to contain the same carbs as regular ice cream. One should not assume that sugar-free (or fat-free) means low carb.

                    Done. Apologies to the chowhound team - you're right, we went off-topic.

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                      Barry RE: lynnz Sep 22, 2003 02:08 PM

                      No, you weren't saying it was possible; you were saying it was inevitable, which wasn't right.

                      Anyway, here's some actual local content: I found a westside source for low-carb baked goods (not a store, but they deliver):

                      LowCarbizy
                      210 N. Canon, Beverly Hills

                      I haven't tried them, but the pictures look good enough to eat. :-)

                      Link: http://www.locarbizi.com/

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