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OCTOBER 2008 COTM: Batali

MMRuth Sep 21, 2008 04:26 AM

And the winner is ...

MARIO BATALI: Molto Italiano, Babbo & Simple Italian Food

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  1. MMRuth Sep 21, 2008 05:13 AM

    There are a bunch of links to his recipes, including to his site, on the other thread, and I'll try to copy them over here. However, another 'hound warned me that google say that his site may be corrupted:

    http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/di...

    Wanted to give you a heads up!

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    1. re: MMRuth
      Gio Sep 21, 2008 05:23 AM

      Thanks MM!

    2. mielimato Sep 22, 2008 01:13 PM

      Yay! I can actually participate this month!

      I don't own any Batali books so any recommendations? Which one is the best as a Batali sampler? I already own Marcella's Essential Italian (and love it) so I'd like to get another Italian cookbook that compliments my Marcella without getting too much overlap.

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      1. re: mielimato
        MMRuth Sep 22, 2008 01:16 PM

        I think there is more information that might be helpful on these threads:

        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/557792
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/555883

        Glad you can participate!

      2. NYCkaren Sep 22, 2008 02:21 PM

        I am psyched!
        I have "Molto Italiano," and everything I've made from it so far was great. I am looking forward to revisiting some of my favorites and trying new recipes.

        1. pitu Sep 22, 2008 09:42 PM

          YEAH!
          there are seemingly endless recipes on the Food Network site -- years of MM, and on the BabboNYC site
          my favorite/standbys are lamb/artichoke stew + squid sicilian lifeguard style
          there's also a super easy tart, a sweet crust that goes well with savory veg -- I think it's hidden as a cardoon recipe, but I always use artichokes or some greens + ricotta

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          1. re: pitu
            MMRuth Sep 23, 2008 04:35 AM

            Hi - Not to be a big buzz killer, but the general idea was that folks would cook from those three books listed, or recipes online from those three books, so that the discussion isn't too too spread out. However, I'm sure no one will be shot for cooking and posting on recipes on the FN site that aren't from the books! (grin)

            1. re: MMRuth
              NYCkaren Sep 23, 2008 09:46 AM

              Right, MM.

              I personally will find plenty of material in the one book I have., But I agree with pitu about the Sicilian lifeguard squid, which I printed out from the FN site. I don't know what book it's in, if any. But it's fantastic.

              1. re: NYCkaren
                MMRuth Sep 23, 2008 12:27 PM

                Thanks - and just to add - I don't mean to sound snarky about it at all - just that there is always a tension (not in a bad way) between posters who'd rather do one book, and those who'd like a widely published author's other books to be included, and I tried to strike a balance!

                1. re: NYCkaren
                  liamsaunt Sep 23, 2008 12:57 PM

                  The sicilian lifeguard recipe is in the Babbo cookbook, so it qualifies! And, I agree, the taste is terrific. Plus, it only takes about 10 minutes to make, if you have the marinara on hand.

                  I have Babbo and Simple Italian Food (and Italian Grill, but that's not listed). I'll try and cook along this month--I love Batali recipes.

                  1. re: liamsaunt
                    Gio Sep 23, 2008 06:51 PM

                    I just think the name alone warrents a cooking try. I'll only be cooking from Molto Italiano this month - but I'm dying to know what the Sicilian Lifeguards do with squid..

                2. re: MMRuth
                  pitu Sep 30, 2008 06:44 PM

                  no worries MM -- the FN/BabboNYC site recipes are mostly in the books
                  Sicilian Lifeguard is one of those book recipes

              2. yamalam Sep 23, 2008 12:26 PM

                Looking forward to my first COTM! Is it October yet??? FYI in case anyone is looking for a used copy - just ordered one (Molto Italiano) from half.com for $17.

                1. greedygirl Sep 23, 2008 01:28 PM

                  So as a Batali virgin (I'd never even heard of him before I joined Chowhound), which book should I consider buying? I need another Italian cookbook like I need a hole in the head, but I'm not going to get Batali in the library here.

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                  1. re: greedygirl
                    MMRuth Sep 23, 2008 01:29 PM

                    Check out this - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5590... - those links should help. I don't have any of his books either.

                    1. re: greedygirl
                      NYchowcook Sep 23, 2008 01:36 PM

                      I'm with you -- Do Not Need another Italian cookbook.
                      Yet in the COTM spirit, I will probably buy Molto Italiano. Seems pretty good, a true home cooking book, and a James Beard award winner.
                      $21 new at my favorite online cookbook source, ecookbooks.com
                      I'm not much of a food network TV fan, but I occasionally watch Mario. He demystifies Italian home cooking.

                      1. re: NYchowcook
                        Rubee Sep 23, 2008 02:00 PM

                        I have all three, and I think if I would recommend one for everyday cooking and entertaining, it would probably be Molto Italiano.

                        1. re: Rubee
                          pitu Sep 30, 2008 06:46 PM

                          I have to agree on Molto Italiano as The One Book of the ouevre, as much as I enjoy the Babbo book.
                          And again, there's plenty online if you don't want to Buy The Book.

                        2. re: NYchowcook
                          greedygirl Sep 24, 2008 08:58 AM

                          I really can't decide. I can get Molto Italiano for £15 from Amazon but at the moment I'm thinking of just doing the online recipes. Mr GG is encouraging me to buy it though, despite the huge pile of books at the side of the bed which are in danger of squashing a cat!

                          1. re: greedygirl
                            alkapal Sep 25, 2008 05:19 AM

                            "despite the huge pile of books at the side of the bed which are in danger of squashing a cat"

                            greedygirl, are we related? pisa has nothin' on us!!! http://www.physics.gla.ac.uk/~pmurray...

                      2. c
                        CeeBee Sep 24, 2008 08:22 AM

                        I just picked up all three from the library. I did a quick flip through and oh wow am I excited. I'll take a better look this weekend to see if I think one is a better rec for buying than the others.
                        For the Mario lovers, his new show on PBS about cooking in Spain is quite a fun show!

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                        1. re: CeeBee
                          MMRuth Sep 24, 2008 08:23 AM

                          I enjoyed it too - my husband really wants the book that goes with it as well.

                          1. re: CeeBee
                            LulusMom Sep 24, 2008 09:41 AM

                            Our local PBS station isn't starting to show it until Oct. 3rd. Pfffft.

                            1. re: CeeBee
                              g
                              ginnyhw Sep 24, 2008 01:27 PM

                              My library has a copy of Molte Italiano waiting for me. (I already have enough Italian cookbooks of my own.) The Minuteman Library network in the Boston area is a great resource for test driving cookbooks- most can be taken out and renewed twice. Having to return them is a great incentive to try a few recipes.

                              1. re: CeeBee
                                NYchowcook Sep 25, 2008 05:13 AM

                                what's the name of his Spanish cooking show?

                                1. re: NYchowcook
                                  Gio Sep 25, 2008 05:26 AM

                                  Spain....On the Road Again. Batali, Gwyneth Paltrow, Mark Bittman and Spanish television actress Claudia Bassols.

                                  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/art...

                              2. Ruth Lafler Sep 24, 2008 01:20 PM

                                I may actually participate this month. I have a copy of ... one of the books ... personally autographed, yet (a gift from my BIL). I made one recipe from it and was underwhelmed, so suggestions/encouragement on recipes to try will be welcome.

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                                1. re: Ruth Lafler
                                  MMRuth Sep 24, 2008 01:29 PM

                                  When the threads go up October 1, please do let us know the recipe that you tried, so we have a heads up!

                                2. s
                                  smtucker Sep 24, 2008 03:16 PM

                                  Whoohooo! Finally books that are already on my shelf. [Though the Vietnamese food from last month sounded delicious.)

                                  1. MMRuth Sep 29, 2008 05:30 AM

                                    Help please! I need to organize the threads for the Batali COTM, and only the Babbo table of contents is available on Amazon. I'm listing it here, but would be ever so grateful, if they're not too long, if posters with the other books might list the tables of contents for them.

                                    Babbo:

                                    Aperitivi
                                    Antipasti
                                    Pasta
                                    Mare
                                    Contorni
                                    Terra e Bosco
                                    Pre-Desserts and Cheese
                                    Dolci
                                    Digestivi

                                    My thought based on this list would be to have:

                                    Drinks
                                    Antipasti
                                    Pasta, Risotto, Polenta (assuming there are recipes for the latter two in the other books)
                                    Seafood
                                    Meat
                                    Poultry
                                    Side dishes
                                    Desserts & Cheese

                                    Any thoughts/suggestions are welcome.

                                    Thanks!

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                                    1. re: MMRuth
                                      LulusMom Sep 29, 2008 06:07 AM

                                      Here's Molto Italiano's list:

                                      Antipasto
                                      Soup, Rice & Polenta
                                      Pasta
                                      Fish
                                      Fowl
                                      Meat
                                      Vegetables
                                      Dolci

                                      Hope someone else can help with the 3rd book ...

                                      1. re: LulusMom
                                        MMRuth Sep 29, 2008 06:08 AM

                                        Thanks so much - looks like that will fit in well - I only saw one or two soups in Babbo (as far as I could tell), but will add to that category. It probably makes sense to have 'Pasta' separate from 'Soup, Rice, Polenta'.

                                        1. re: MMRuth
                                          Carb Lover Sep 29, 2008 06:38 AM

                                          For Simple Italian Food:

                                          Antipasti (first courses)
                                          Primi (pasta & risotto)
                                          Pesce (fish)
                                          Carne (meat)
                                          Contorni (vegetable & side dishes)
                                          Formaggi & Dolci (cheese & sweets)

                                          Thanks, MMRuth!

                                          1. re: Carb Lover
                                            MMRuth Sep 29, 2008 06:39 AM

                                            Thank you - I think I'm set - it looks pretty straight forward.

                                            Any thoughts about having just one Primi thread, or separating out Pasta from it?

                                            1. re: MMRuth
                                              Carb Lover Sep 29, 2008 06:43 AM

                                              I personally like the idea of keeping pasta under the primi thread...the more streamlined, the better for me.

                                              1. re: Carb Lover
                                                oakjoan Sep 29, 2008 02:45 PM

                                                I'm with CL on this one. The fewer threads the better....within reason of course.

                                                Now I'm off to try Taralli with Anise and Lemon from Dolce Italiano. It ain't Mario, but it's one of his employees: De Palma.

                                                1. re: oakjoan
                                                  MMRuth Sep 29, 2008 02:47 PM

                                                  I agree with you both - the fewer threads the better! Thanks.

                                    2. emmaroseeats Sep 30, 2008 08:32 AM

                                      I'm excited to join in the fray! How nice to actually have other folks to share my cook book fascination with. And fall is certainly perfect weather for Italian (although I would argue there is an Italian food genre perfect for any season).

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                                      1. re: emmaroseeats
                                        MMRuth Sep 30, 2008 11:16 AM

                                        I bought Molto Italiano last night, as that was the only one in stock in my corner bookstore that I like to support. Looks like there are many wonderful vegetable recipes. As far as I can tell, the recipes are each limited to one page. In the introduction, he writes:

                                        "This book is a collection of my all-time favorite simple recipes drawn from my travels in Italy and my cooking here in America, on TV and at home, and it represents the best cooking of classic Italian dishes both here and in their place of birth."

                                        There's a nice primer on Italian wines, and a list of sources - even a photo of Batali at Dipalo, checking out a cheese with Sal Dipalo - love it!

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