558982 Sat Sep 20 10:52:13 -0700 2008 5 35 Beer 0 4049597 I recently received a free Bass brolley and, not particularly knowing what I was doing, followed the rather simple instructions to make myself several Black and Tans using Bass Pale Ale and Guiness Extra Stout. I've now been informed that I was not supposed to use Guiness Extra Stout, but Guiness Draught and that I also could have substituted Harp's Lager to make a Half and Half, which is similar. What is the correct way to make a proper Black and Tan and what are your favorite variations on the theme for those that like to break with tradition and try something different? I have attached a picture of the device, so feel free to tell me what a twit I am for using it. ;-) Sat Sep 20 10:52:13 -0700 2008 227354 Lapis 1 4053366 Alrighty then! I did my own research and found these variations. Anyone try any of these? Black Hearted Lady : Guinness and Bell's Two-Hearted Ale All Irish Black & Tan, aka, Blacksmith, aka, Irish Nectar, aka, Pint of Special: Guinness Stout and Smithwick's Irish Ale Back in Black: Half Guinness and half Sid Richardson College lager. The name is a reference to the AC/DC song by the same name which serves as the official anthem to the 8th of the 11 Rice University colleges. Black & Cherry: Guinness and Samuel Adams Cherry Wheat Black & Gold, aka, Black Apple: Half Guinness Stout and half hard cider (e.g., Westons or Woodchuck). Sometimes incorrectly referred to as a snakebite, which is actually a mixture of half lager and half cider. When made specifically with Woodchuck Cider it is also called a Stout Woody Black & Gold: Half Guinness and Half Great Lakes Dortmunder Gold Black & Red: Half Guinness and half Red Stripe Black & Red, aka, Red Velvet: Half chocolate stout over half raspberry or cherry lambic Black & Sam, aka, Patriot Pint, aka, Boston Half & Half: Guinness and Samuel Adams Boston Lager Black & Black : A blend of Guinness Extra Stout and Guinness Draught Black & Blue: Stout with Blue Moon Belgian White, or stout and blueberry ale, Guinness and Pabst Blue Ribbon, Guinness and Labatt Blue. Typically, this refers to any variation of stout coupled with blueberry-flavored ales or brands with the name "Blue" in them. Black & Orange: Stout and pumpkin ale: Also known as a "Black & Blumpkin", a "Black-O-Blumpkin", or a "Blackhead" (Guinness and Shipyard Pumpkinhead of Portland, Maine. The Gilded Otter Brewpub in New Paltz, New York calls this mixture a Stumpkin. Black & White: Stout with any light colored beer. Black Bastard, aka, Arrogant Black: Guinness and Arrogant Bastard Ale, an American strong ale from Stone Brewing Company of San Marcos, California. Black Castle: Half Guinness and half Newcastle Brown Ale. Black Christmas, aka, Kwanzaa: Guinness draught over Christmas Ale. Black Cow: Half Guinness and half New Glarus Spotted Cow Black Dead Guy: Half Guinness and Half Rogue Dead Guy Ale Black Girl: Half Guinness and St. Pauli Girl Black Hoe: Half Guinness and half Hoegaarden. Black Honey: Half Guinness and Half Honey Brown Black Honky: Half Guinness and Half Goose Island Honker's Ale Black Magic: Half Guinness and Half Magic Hat #9 Black Negra: Half Guinness, Half Negra Modelo Black on Blonde, aka, Blonde Redhead' (Invented by Christopher Donaldson): A mixture of (slightly more than) half Guinness and (slightly less than) half Stella Artois (The plural form would be Blacks on Blonde.) Black Sap: Half Guinness and Sapporo Black Scotch Ale: Half Guinness and Half Sam Adam's Scotch Ale Black Summer: Half Guinness and Half Sam Adam's Summer Ale - Created by Casper Tavenor Black Tire: Half Guinness and half New Belgium Fat Tire Blacks on Blondes: Half Young's Double Chocolate Stout and half Pete's Wicked Strawberry Blonde Dark & Steamy (invented by Joe Fahrner): Half Anchor Steam Beer and half Guinness Dirty Bush (Traditional): Half stout Guinness half Bush Light Mixed Seasonally. Eclipse, aka, Black Moon, aka, Dark Side of the Moon: Half Guinness and Half Blue Moon Garnet and Black: Guinness and Killian's Irish Red. This is a regional variation in South Carolina, named after the school colors of the University of South Carolina. The Greatness: Half Guinness and Half Great White. (Great White is from Lost Coast Brewery in Eureka, Ca.) Green Goblin (invented by Geoff Wayne): Half Heineken and half Hobgoblin Guinn-ling: Half Guinness and Half Yeungling- Created by Jeff Thornton Imperial Black & Tan (invented by David Hatling): Half Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale and half Brooklyn Brewery Black Chocolate Stout Innis & Guinness (invented by Brent Swallowell): Half Innis & Gunn and half Guinness Irish Anarchist: Any Irish stout atop any Irish red ale. The name is a reference to the anarchist-syndicalist flag, which is black and red. Irish American: Half Guinness and half Budweiser. Irish Canadian: Half Guinness and half Molson Canadian Irishman in Texas: Half Guinness and half Shiner Bock Old Dirty Englishman: Half Guinness and half Tetley's Philadelphia Black & Tan: Half Guinness Stout and half Yuengling Lager Pint of Special, aka, 99: Similar to the all Irish Black and Tan served mostly in the west of Ireland. Made with more than 75% Smithwick's topped up with a Guinness head Raging Inferno: Half Guinness, Half Firehouse American Pale Ale Red Velvet: Half Guinness, Half Raspberry Cider Jack San Patricios: Half Guinness and half any Mexican beer (Corona, Pacifico, Dos Equis, Negro Modelo) Smoothie: Half any hard draft cider and half Guinness Snake Bite: Half any hard draft cider and half any lager Sweet Black and Tan: Sweetheart Stout and any light ale (i.e. 60 shilling) Tetness: Half Guinness and half Tetley's Thistle & Shamrock: Beamish & McEwan's Thundercloud: Half Boulevard Dry Stout and half Boulevard Unfiltered Wheat Mon Sep 22 16:17:44 -0700 2008 4049597 227354 Lapis 2 4088251 " I did my own research.." >snip list< Research? Uh, isn't that just copy/pasted from Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_tan Tue Oct 07 11:29:30 -0700 2008 4053366 11059 JessKidden 1 4087831 Wow... just wow. Looks like I have my work cut out for me. Guess I'll start at the top and work my way down. Tue Oct 07 09:19:15 -0700 2008 4049597 218457 Jonny509 1 4098808 Don't use Bass or Guinness Sun Oct 12 01:56:26 -0700 2008 4049597 107992 kelarry 1 4098978 Guinness draft from the can works best (unless you have a keggorator) as the bottle draught is meant to be consumed from the bottle and not poured. I prefer the bottom beer to be a little more hoppier. American style beer (i.e., Miller & Bud) just don't have enough flavor and all you taste is the Guinness. I like Guinness over Whitbread, personally. Sun Oct 12 07:32:43 -0700 2008 4049597 227406 JohnE O