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New Pub Coming to West Newton

R.J. Crowley’s in West Newton is going to re-open as a more modern-looking pub called The Local. Looks like they will be concentrating on locally-brewed beers and locally-grown food (hence the name).

I posted a story on this on my blog early this morning, but the full article can be found in today's Herald...

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  1. anyone know if this is open yet?

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    1. re: redbill

      Not yet. I drove by the other day and not much was going on. I heard it will open in November.

    2. This is very good to hear (that it will be something new and somewhat unique). Everything about that place was just so...tired. Good luck to them.

      1. Anyone heard anything more about this place? Is it open?

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        1. re: Ruprecht

          Just drove by and it looks like they're still in the set up stage. Lights are on and there were people sitting at the bar, but they didn't look like patrons. Maybe staff getting trained?

          1. re: alt11

            I walked by yesterday. There was a sign on the door saying they will be open for the first day of business on Tuesday, Nov 11.

          1. re: elarbe

            I didn't know that the place was owned by the CF Donovan's folks! ;-b

            1. re: elarbe

              Looks interesting, and the prices seem quite reasonable. It will be nice to have an alternative to Paddy's, which I think is pretty bad!

              1. re: elarbe

                We stopped in yesterday for a drink. Some of their cocktails sounded interesting, so I asked the bartender if she recommended a specific one. She said one with Hendricks gin, muddled cucumbers and simple lime syrup. (I don't remember the name). I got it, but it wasn't very good- and I do like Hendricks. I should have just returned it, but I thought maybe a splash of soda and some more lime would perk it up. It didn't. When she finally came back to see how I liked it and found out I didn't much, she said "Oh, well, we don't have the house-made lime syrup yet. It will probably be better with that". So why did she recommend it then??

                We weren't hungry enough to eat, but someone's seared tuna nearby looked good. The decor didn't seem that different from Crowleys.

                1. re: silver queen

                  That might have been me having the tuna. I've been twice and will go again. It's not perfect but with a little time to get some kinks out I'll enjoy this place a lot.

                  Baby Greens, soaked cherries, goat cheese, spiced nuts and port balsamic vinaigrette. I had it without the goat cheese, delicious, but over dressed.

                  Seared Tuna Sashimi, thai red curry vinaigrette and seaweed salad. Four slices of tuna, raw on the inside, seared on the outside, crusted in black sesame seeds. The whole piece was cold, like it was pre-seared and sitting on ice for while. It was tasty, but would have been better if made-to-order. The seaweed salad was good. I'd normally get tired of it but finished the whole serving.

                  Chicken wings, home made hot sauce & Ever's blue cheese dressing. An order of I think 12 wings served in a metal bucket. Piping hot, delicious sauce, spicy hot but not burning. I don't think they were deep fried because they weren't crisp. My only complaint was that of the 12 wings, only one was of the drumstick variety which I prefer.

                  Salmon, roasted garlic mashed bacon/mushroom salad, red wine sauce. I was asked how I wanted the salmon cooked, which I wasn't expecting but medium turned out good. The salmon was hot and delicious. It was served over a base of mashed potatoes with the mushroom bacon salad in between. The potatoes were good though not particularly garlicky. Maybe they were but the overwhelming flavor on the plate was of mushrooms and bacon. Great earthy meaty flavor, but probably better suited to beef or pork rather than salmon. I'm ordering salmon I would have liked some good for you veggie in shade of green.

                  Desserts aren't on the menu but the server read three choices to me. The warm chocolate cake with vanilla ice cream came served on a plate drizzled with caramel that really brought them together. The cake was warm but not molten (which is wasn't advertised as being). Nice chocolate flavor, moist and dense for cake. Good stuff. It also came with a blackberry, raspberry and sliced strawberry which were delicious but also sitting in the caramel which as a combination didn't work as well for me.

              2. What's the address of this place? Unless I'm just missing it, there's no mention of the address on their website!

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                1. re: Blumie

                  It is at the bottom of their Web page, though it didn't seem to show up the first time I went on their site (maybe the Flash intro messed it up--not a big fan of Flash intros especially when there is no "Skip intro" option). Anyway, it is at 1391 Washington Street (Route 16) in West Newton and the phone number is (617) 340-2160.

                  1. re: hiddenboston

                    Thanks. I've reloaded their webpage several times, and I'm still not seeing it!

                    1. re: Blumie

                      I'm pretty sure you're not seeing it because their entire site is Flash-based, including (I believe) the address line. IMO, they need to work on their site to make it more user-friendly, not just to diners, but also to the search engines.

                      Having said that, I'm looking forward to going there soon. We were at Vecchia Roma last night and The Local was brought up briefly in conversation; if it wasn't so late, we probably would have headed over there since it's so close to Nonantum.

                      1. re: hiddenboston

                        I'm thinking of heading over for a late dinner tonight. I will, of course, report back if I do.

                2. Went by tonight and tried a bunch of appetizers. Bottom line: If in the neighborhood, I might go here over Paddy's, of which I am not a big fan, but I certainly would not go out of my way. This is a bar serving bar food. This is not serious chow.

                  I arrived at about 10pm to a decent size crowd. Notwithstanding the newness of the place, the Patriots game drew a big crowd and the bar was packed. The adjacent dining room was 80% full, and a second smaller dining room was empty.

                  I tried three apps: fried pickles with spicy mayo, steamed dumplings with thai peanut sauce, and calamari with jalapenos and onions.

                  The fried pickes were the most successful. A bit salty, but that's kinda par for the course with fried pickles. The spicy mayo was too much for the pickles; I preferred them just with tabasco. (Being a new place, it was nice to be able to break in a new bottle of tabasco for them!)

                  The dumplings were a disaster. They were served cold in a puddle of gloppy peanut sauce. Even had they been hot, this would not have worked for me. The dumplings were nothing special -- almost certainly Sysco or Costco or something like that -- and would have been far better with a traditional dumpling sauce instead of the glop.

                  The calamari preparation was good -- it was served with fried jalapeno rings and sauteed onions, without the greasiness of traditional Rhode Island calamari -- but the squid itself was heavily breaded and bordering on rubbery. Again, this almost certainly was a Sysco or similar product. And it was served with soy sauce, which again didn't do it for me. I used the spicy mayo and even the gloppy Thai peanut sauce instead. (And of course more tabasco.)

                  So there you have it. Maybe it's not fair to judge a place that's so new. And maybe it's not fair to judge it based on three appetizers without trying the flatbreads or entrees. I can see going back. I'd try their burger, perhaps a flatbread. I could see hanging at the bar and downing some not-so-good apps. It's a nice enough neighborhood place, but not a place I'd travel to get to.

                  One last pet peeve: the draught beers, of which there were about eight, were sold in 16oz and 20oz sizes. In one case, the per-ounce price of the 20oz beer was identical to the per-ounce price of the 16oz. In all other cases, the 20oz beer was more expensive than the 16oz on a per-ounce basis. This is a minor complaint -- in general I think their prices are reasonable -- but I do find it annoying.

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                  1. re: Blumie

                    I just thought to add -- because it's clear that The Local people are reading this thread -- that the service, from Melissa, was excellent.

                  2. ate here friday last, took the last four top+1 in the place. at six oclock! by the time we left the place was swarming. entrees were a little slow ( which was apologized for) but if they can iron out that problem, they will print money in this location. cockail, beer, two entreees, three light dishes and two apps.final score, 94usd with tip. fed two 50+, 1 21y/o, and two 15 year old girls, with a few leftovers. liked the warm potato chips, garlic hummous app quite good, both dissapeared quickly. wings fairly hot, but not buffs by a longshot. clam chowder a big hit with the orderee, plenty of clams. the pork entree, very nice with a smashed red potato base. i was hoping the beer list would be more adventuresome, harpoon i.p.a ? yawn. no smuttynose? or magic hat? even watch city is about three miles away, could they not working something out with them for the whole "local " thing? everyone liked it . place was 60 to 70 percent women. comfortable feel. ill go back.

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                    1. re: hyde

                      I also dropped by the local this weekend. I sat at the bar, the restaurant is basically the same as Crowley's with a slightly more upscale feel due to the new flat screens, darker interior, and candles. The place was comfortably full at 8PM, a majority of the people in the bar were friends of the owners. I had a Kobe burger which was cooked as ordered and had great flavor. The Truffled Parmesan Fries were a disaster given that they were served cold and were clearly sitting around for a long time and were mushy and saturated with oil. I am sure these would have been good if they were fresh and crisp, but these were returned in favor of the fried pickles which were very good.

                      I was also underwhelmed by the beer selection, I tried the "local" selections including the Long Trail Heffenweizen and Cisco Whale's Tale Pale Al.

                      I will most likely go back and dig into the entrees. However, I am still longing to fill the empty spot in my heart left by the departure of the old Biltmore crew.....

                      1. re: hyde

                        Ok, so you liked it, but "print money"? It's not like there are no other options in the area.

                        1. re: Blumie

                          it didint totally knock me out but i was impressed at the crowd. i think it fills a niche that is under served in that area.