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I can't believe I haven't seen this posted already. When I was a kid, my great-grandmother always made grits with egg and bacon mixed in. You add the egg raw after you've taken it off the stove--the heat from the grits cooks the egg, but it mixes throughout to give it a lovely golden color with no cooked egg bits. Then add crumbled, crisp bacon. It's breakfast in a bowl!
Now that I live "up north" and grits can be hard to find, my mom makes sure I have a 5lb bag of Quaker to take back with me when I visit.
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Grits - Yum!!! My favorite ways vary according to how we are going to serve them, but for breakfast, as you mentioned, I use Quaker Quick Grits. Use the directions on the package, but add extra salt, pepper and lots of butter to the water. Stir in the grits really well, then begin to check on them after just a couple minutes because they always cook faster than it states! At that point you can add cheese and let it melt if you want cheese grits. We often make bowls of these on a cool night.
Weekend mornings we serve fried eggs, sausage gravy and biscuits with our grits and it all makes one big mess on your plate - but such a great big yummy mess!!!
I have to say there's not much that can top good southern grits, except maybe SWEET TEA!!!
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For my taste, I prefer Jim Dandy, they really are dandy. I never start in boiling water.. To apt to clump. I use a bit more water than directed, and cook longer. (Necessary in our higher altitude) Then add a package on GOYA Ham Flavored Seasoning, black pepper, lots of butter, and if available, some cooked ham, sausage, or bacon. A coupe hot biscuits smathered with lots of butter, and blueberry jam.
Oh, better double that order..
charlyd
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re: charlyd80
now i'm going to try one of my goya "sazon" packets next time, too! good tip. (culantro with achiote flavor). that would be good with fried eggs, or sauteed shrimp on top, or stir-fried snow pea shoots with garlic (the new "greens" love of my life, courtesy of our best local szechuan restaurant, hong kong palace.)
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re: Scargod
should i hide? you scared me, scargod! (you didn't talk that way to charleyd! -- and ipsedixit uses msg, too!!!) {;^D
hmmmm, i didn't know about the mega-msg. i just used some in a garbanzo bean and hot smoked sausage soup. i only thought sodium was the goya culprit....oh well. soup was good. (in fact, thanks for reminding me: leftovers in fridge!) i'm going to see if it gives me a headache.
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re: Scargod
scargod, i'm sorry the mods got to the 'shrooms before i had a chance! ;-)
if this is chanterelle eason, maybe those would be good with some garlic in grits! or just sauteed in butter, and tossed on top -- a nice comforting autumn dish! maybe served with rich, braised short ribs! oh. yeah.
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re: Scargod
I've never made grits, gotta give it a try. What else is served w/ it? Red eye gravy too.
Damn YankeeAfter last weekend's storm, so many schrooms, so little time time and space.
Stalkin' the wild grouse too. Time to eat, not drink, Wild Turkey.You know, I'm not even sure I could find grits in Ellsworth.
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re: Passadumkeg
passadumkeg, surely ellsworth will have quaker quick grits. don't get instant, whatever you do!
once you decide you like grits, you can go for some of the mail-order gourmet "stone-ground" grits, like anson mills, or bob's red mill. many threads discuss these preferences. i'll see if any is in my "favorites" folder.
so far: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/405254
another thread, with savory grits recipes: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/392030here are some sources for grits that i've bookmarked as "recommended" by hounds:
http://www.ansonmills.com/products-page.htm
http://www.weisenberger.com/help.cfm
http://www.fallsmill.com/store.html
http://www.noramill.com/store/index.php?cPath=22&sort=2a&page=2&osCsid=346e557110626b42a61702f31551a356and from my native florida:
http://www.bradleyscountrystore.com/
their sausage was recommended, too...maybe it is time for a grits-off! see whose are the best. so much depends on whether you like fine vs. coarse, imo. i prefer mine coarser.
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re: Passadumkeg
I'd be happy to share some of my old, weevily grits. Just think of them as ground posole.
Grits can be plain and boring or, like polenta or couscous, they can be dolled up and lipstick applied.
If the others are good with 'shrooms, grits would be too.
Do you have hydnum repandum (Wood Hedgehog or Hedgehog mushroom), where you are? They are closely related to the chanterelles.-
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re: Passadumkeg
You could order hominy from one of the online Latino groceries.
For example on this page
http://www.amigofoods.com/otherproduc...
Peru Food Maiz Mote produces quite large kernels. (Mote is the Andean term for this treated corn).
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When I make polenta, I prefer to let it set up overnight, and then cut it into squares and pan-fry. Do folks do that with grits, or is it generally served in mush form?
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re: Sharuf
yep, they're called "southern fried grits" in kentucky. mush form is much more common for breakfast, but you might see fried grits for supper.
(i could be wrong, but isn't the only difference between grits and polenta the fineness of the grind, with polenta generally bein more finely ground?)
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re: paulj
with respect paulj, it has absolutely nothing to do with the type of cheese one adds.
edit: sorry paulj, i just saw your smiley face! (without the nose, it sort of disappeared.)
(anyhoo, note to folks complaining over there on site talk about smileys, here you can see they *do* make a difference in understanding a post. now i know the erudite paulj was offering his comment in jest.)
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re: cimui
What I got used to was HOMINY grits, which are milled from dried corn that has been soaked in lime or lye water and then dried again. Most of the mills today are simply grinding varieties of dried field corn, so it really is like a coarse polenta. It's all good, and I'm not complaining, but I do love the whang of hominy. Now, what I'm wondering is whether we could run dried posole - which is hominy - through a Corona mill, and make our own grits. Or, better yet, sun-dry the wet whole-grain hominy they sell in the Mexican markets and grind that, germ and all, to make whole-grain hominy grits?
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will owen, i was just looking at some dried hominy (posole) at the shoppers food warehouse. the kernels look like they'd take a toll on my food processor. but a grinder might work. if you tried it, your grits might not look pretty and creamy white, though, but more of a rustic creamy yellow. right? (or am i confusing the color of posole with something else here?)
edit: re-reading your post, will, i don't think you'll get "whole grain" hominy, because the hull is gone with the lye, right?
but you can just grind the dried corn, according to this wiki :
"Hominy can be ground coarsely to make hominy grits, or into a fine mash (dough) to make masa, the dough used to make tamales."
and of special interest to you, perhaps:
"Rockihominy, a popular trail food in the 19th & early 20th centuries, is dried corn roasted to a golden brown, then ground to a very coarse meal, almost like hominy grits."
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominy
and cimui, check the recent thread about masa harina and cornmeal; there is a subthread re arepas....
http://www.chow.com/digest/6324-
re: alkapal
The word for that moist hominy I was trying to remember is nixtamal, available in Mexican-heavy area markets in plastic bags. Yes, the hull is gone, but the germ is attached at the bottom of each kernel, and for making masa each one has to be pulled off. What I was suggesting was drying the whole kernels and running them through a mill, though it seems silly to buy a rehydrated dry product and then re-dehydrate it... I'm just trying to figure out how to wind up with whole-grain hominy grits, is all.
I don't have a problem with color; I actually prefer the taste of yellow corn, finding it richer, rounder and cornier...
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re: alkapal
Text editors are the best friends you can have under such circumstances; I've learned when a piece of mine has spun out into a major essay to copy/paste the text into a plain-text document on the desktop. That way if your browser (or - ahem! - someone else's) eats your work, you can re-send it ad infinitum.
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re: ipsedixit
ipse, i'm sorry. i thought you were being facetious -- mostly because i couldn't imagine "msg" in the same sentence (or even paragraph) as "grits". then add "fatback" in, and it sounded like a slam on southerners (or at least southern stereotypes). my apologies for doubting you!
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re: alkapal
No apologies needed, and I was not being facetious and definitely not slamming southern hospitality.
Try it sometime. Plus, if you talk to folks down south, you'd be surprised at how often people use fatback in their grits (or just about anything for that matter). I got my indoctrination to fatback when I spent a couple of weeks in Charleston and Columbia.
Cheers!
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re: alkapal
I can't say it based on research... but on personal experience with seeing how my grandmother and relatives cooked and her circle of "paula deen" style friends. In their old church cookbooks and the like you will frequently find a recipe calling for accent. (my "southern" area of experience would include the states of alabama/georgia/very north edge of florida)
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re: Mellicita
yeah, my mom's side is from marianna, florida, right where you are talking about. i'm from southern gulf coast (fort myers). i have lots of relatives in the atlanta area, too --- and colonial heights, virginia.
i never saw accent in mom's side's cooking, and really can't recall seeing it in recipes in a lot of my southern "community" cookbooks.
this discussion will give me an impetus to look for that ingredient. ;-)
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re: ipsedixit
dive fan, i don't think any self-respecting southerner would buy grits in a tube, like polenta.
on the other hand, for a little round grits from a glass tube, do this: butter up a straight-sided medium-size (or smaller) glass and put leftover grits in it, and moderately pack it. next morning, or later for supper, slide out the "tube" and cut off 1/2 to 3/4 inch rounds. then, fry those up in some bacon fat. grits thus prepared are even better than the first time! they get a crispy, bacony crust.
oh. yeah. baby. ;-)
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re: tmso
i am saying nothing -- absolutely nothing -- about any italian. doing anything. ever. ("i know no-thing" a la sgt. schultz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztgYhV...
)(btw, the godfather series is in a new dvd release) (;-0)
<"oh no she dih-nt!">
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In addition to other great suggestions (using broth and/or milk, adding butter & cheese), I like just letting it sit for a while to absorb flavors. Leftover grits are even better in my book. I add garlic to mine while cooking, sometimes chopped sausage or bacon, frozen or creamed corn.
And I'm all about grits for dinner. They do really well with juicy meats like braised short ribs, where some of the gravy can be poured over top the grits.
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instant grits are terrible. quaker quick grits are fine for everyday breakfast, and just following label directions is all that is needed. stone ground grits are the best, and take longer (some much more than others....). riff on flavors, additions according to your tastes. there is no need to overcomplicate grits.....
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re: alkapal
Roger that, alkapal - I keep a stock of very fancy stoneground grits AND a box of Alber's or Quaker quick grits in my fridge. The long-cooking ones are for specific occasions, like when I want some to go with roast duck, or for some extra-fine shrimp & grits; the quick ones are for when I get a sudden hankering, or for making our favorite cheese/garlic grits. Yowza!
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No one has mentioned the MILK or BUTTERMILK options yet, both of which are fabulous. You have to be careful with buttermilk since it may break, and if it does just add some more fat :-) and continue cooking on low heat. Sour cream and yogurt are also good additions at the end in place of butter.
As for which kind of grits, I prefer quick or regular, Never instant. Instant grits seem to have the least flavor and only save one or two minutes cooking time over 'quick' - C'MON!
ALWAYS start with a soupy mixture, grits can seize and burn on you in a heartbeat. Warning - the manufacturers directions are mostly Wrong - start with at least FIVE parts liquid to one part grits. It will cook down on the stove or in the microwave in no time. Simply amazing how much grits will expand! A little cold presoak while you're in the shower can't hurt...
Crumbled cooked sausage, bacon, ham, chorizo, hard salami, minced onion, scallion are my flavors of choice. I've tried both melting and grating cheeses, surprisingly didn't do much for this cheese addict.
After all of the above, who needs butter :-)? Well, maybe the only choice at Waffle House...
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re: Morganna
That sounds to me like the quick grits. That's what I use too. Although I find it takes a lot more water and a lot more time than the package says for them to get as creamy as I'd like. At their timing and ratio, they are too crunchy and that's not what grits should be IMHO!
Granted, I haven't tried original stone ground, but with extra time, water, and butter (sometimes cheese), the quick grits can be pretty good!
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re: DiveFan
I second the suggestion to use milk! Or even a dollop of cream, if calories are not a concern for a special dish.
I also use chicken stock (which might make this "polenta") for a lovely flavor esp if serving with shrimp in a nice tasso gravy. A bit of cheddar cheese (or sometimes parmesan cheese - again crossing into "polenta" territory) adds beautiful flavor.
A little butter on top really adds a lot of flavor too (I use a "light" butter like smart balance). As does a very light dash of garlic powder. And a little salt if not using much cheese. Some like to stir in sugar for a sweet breakfast dish or even add a bit of honey or maple syrup.
Plain water produces a fairly boring, tasteless result, while the above suggestions will really enhance and bring out the sweet corn flavor.
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Try this: www.bradleyscountrystore.com
It is a cenutry old store outside Tallahassee, and they have coarse ground grits. You might even find a piece of cob, but its good roughage. Hint: also order some of their smoked country sausage.
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Where were you vacationing? Were there variations in the grits from one place to another? Were they usually on the soupy side, with plenty of butter, salt and pepper?
If grits were a regular part of most breakfast dishes, the restaurant probably made up a large batch each day. So they weren't instant or quick, but they weren't necessarily expensive stone ground either.
The basic preparation isn't any harder than oatmeal. And if using regular as opposed to 5 minute quick grits, it is best to allow plenty of cooking time, at least 30 minutes. Grits and polenta (i.e. all coarsely ground corn) benefit from long slow cooking, as long as you don't let them dry out or burn.
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re: paulj
I was in Delaware and had them at the hotel everyday. They were thick, not soupy, with lots of butter and salt. I really don't know if there was anything else in there.
Thanks to everyone for the quick response; I think I will buy the instant and stone ground and try them both out.
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Had them for the first time about 5 years ago. I do find a HUGE difference between stone ground and the instant- the instant ones are crap. I do them with butter, salt and pepper, some cream- sometimes we'll toss in some shredded cheddar cheese. My boss ordered from here: http://www.adluhstore.com/info.html
He had gone to their facility in some capacity or knows someone from there. Anyway, they were really quite delicious and remind me of polenta. Get some and don't fear-you can boil these on low for hours and they hang out in a crock pot quite nicely for a crowd.›13 Replies-
re: Boccone Dolce
Do you really mean that I might gag and throw up at the smell of the instant grits?
OK, I know you are just using a figure of speech, but it does little to convince me that the stone ground ones are much better than instant. Instant may not be the best, but they are palatable.
I may be an odd ball in this regard, but realistic comparisons are more convincing than exaggerated ones.
Lest I come across as uncouth in these matters, I have cooked polenta in a double boiler for hours - long enough that they absorb a 5 or even 6:1 ratio of water. By polenta I mean yellow 'stone ground' corn from my local health food store.
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re: paulj
I'm with you paulj. :)
Stone ground grits might taste better, but instant grits are far faster to cook up when you're making grits for a side with your evening meal after spending a day at work in meetings. :)
Not everyone has the time or the wherewithal to manage to plan their meals two or three days in advance (to soak things) and some people don't get home until after 6PM and don't have time to spend on a long-cooking product.
Sure, when I'm cooking on the weekends I'll cook with the higher-quality, longer-cooking ingredients (like steel cut oats instead of rolled), but I don't want to give up a nice option as a side dish just 'cos the instant version isn't as good as the stone ground. :) It is still good, just not -as- good.
I've even been known to use *GASP* instant rice when I forget to put my rice on first thing when I get home and I want rice with dinner. ;D
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re: tmso
Unless it uses pressure, a rice cooker does not cook rice faster. Admittedly my experience is with an older, simple model. I haven't timed it, but I think the high power setting tends to run for about 10-15 minutes, after which I'm supposed to let it sit on warm for about 15.. That's about the same as the usual 20 minute stovetop run.
Pressure cooker can be faster. 3 minutes of pressure, 7 of cooling according to Lorrna Sass, 6 minutes of pressure and fast cool for rissoto style.
Instant grits, instant mashed potatoes, and instant rice, and don't forget, instant couscous, all have their place. I use them more when camping, or time is short, or when I've put all my cooking attention into the other dishes, and need a quick 'starch' to round out the meal.
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re: tmso
Instant rice is faster than using the rice cooker when I forget to put the rice in the rice cooker first before starting my meal and I only remember at the last minute I wanted rice with it. :) Instant rice takes around 9 mins. Boil the water, put in the rice, let absorb. It absorbs faster. :) My rice cooker takes around 25 mins to half an hour, depending on the grain I'm using.
I don't -prefer- it. And if what I'm making depends on the flavour of the rice, of course I'd never ever use instant, but when it's just there for a certain grainy texture and to fill out a meal, it does well enough. :)
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re: Morganna
I'm puzzled. Since my childhood decades ago long grain rice always cooked for ~14 minutes on the stovetop, and I've found that time works perfectly with my microwave cooker. So sayeth the Gospel according to Fannie Farmer.
What kind of rice takes 25 - 30 minutes??
If I want to have 'instant' rice, I'll get the precooked, vacuum packed stuff from Trader Joes, Safeway or elsewhere. Probably costs the same as *cough*Uncle Ben's*cough wierd tasting product.
But we digress :-).
Anyone seen precooked grits, cousin to that tube o'polenta?
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re: DiveFan
*shrug* I am at a loss to explain it. It's not like it's difficult to tell when rice is cooked through (bite, if there's crunch, then it isn't done). All I can say is if I cook it less, there's crunch. On the cook top it takes upwards of 40 minutes because I'm not quite steaming it the way to cooker does it. Probably it is a failure of some simple thing on my part, but I don't have the time or inclination to figure it out when the cooker does it perfectly every time without any extra effort on my part other than just remembering to start it before I start cooking the dinner (if the dinner I'm making is a fast to cook thing, like stir fry).
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re: Morganna
I was wandering through the frozen foods section of my grocery store. I was shocked to see frozen rice. I guess that can be a solution.
I work until 6:00 PM and DH and I take turns cooking, we love our pressure cookers. Risotto in 7.5 mins, homemade split pea soup from prep to finish 15 mins. No pre-soaking of the peas either. We are such pressure cooker fans that we now have 2.
Fagor has just come out with a 3 in 1 appliance. It is electric and can function as a pressure cooker, slow cooker or rice cooker. Retails for about $120. I don't need it with 2 pressure cookers and have a slow cooker I never use, I don't have time for it. I've been cooking rice for 40 years and have never seen the need for a rice cooker. But for someone who has none of the above it could be a great buy.
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re: DiveFan
uncle ben's brown rice is our regular rice now. i think it tastes good, and has a nice texture.
http://www.unclebens.com/rice/natural...
btw, that uncle ben's site has tons of delicious rice recipes --- entrees, salads, you name it, with flavor profiles from all over the world. i recommend it highly.
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re: paulj
I would make a distinction between "instant"(cooks in about 1 minute) and "quick"(cooks in about 5 minutes) grits.
I have tried the little packets of instant grits, and wasn't very happy with the end product.. it seemed too wet and gummy.
By contrast the quick grits produced a very nice end product and 5 minutes compared to 1 minute is not a huge amount of time.
And I do agree that 30-40 minutes of slowly stirring stone ground grits can be a difficult task to undertake at the end of a long workday, even if it does yeild beautiful results. The quick grits will give you a comparatively good result.
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Absolutely go for Anson Mills coarse grits and then follow the recipe on their website, exactly. (I haven't tried their quick grits but they're probably good too). It sounds like a lot of trouble but its worth it. Once you have it down then you can play with additions and modifications to the original recipe. They have a nice shrimp and grits recipe on the website too. And if you're going to order grits from them, get some of their stone cut oats and coarse polenta too. They're not cheap but it beats anything I've found in a supermarket.
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re: Ellen
Report back from a lurking reader of this thread.
I took the advice of turning to Anson Mills. Purchased the coarse grits, polenta and two styles of corn meal.
I'm a northern boy and no grits expert but this is a fantastic source. Have made the polenta and, last night, made the Anson Mills Shrimp and Grits recipe.
I will definitely re-order!
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I think that buying regular grits (Quaker quick - not instant) and following the instructions on the box will give you really good grits - just fine for your morning eggs. Just remember to use plenty of salt and butter.
For great grits, I think the secret is in the grits. If you get some good quality stone ground grits, they will be better.
Then it's just a matter of what you want - and how you plan to serve them. With eggs at breakfast? Or as a base for a main course at dinner. There are many recipes for Garlic Cheese Grits and the like (and the chipotle cheese ones just mentioned here sounde very interesting indeed).
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re: scubadoo97
I use Anson Mills and I start my grits in cold water. Use a heavy pan and plan on simmering and stirring for about an hour. If you have a pressure cooker it will be a lot faster. In a pinch I will use Quaker Quick but never ever use instant. The person who thought that up should be condemned to a hell where he/she will be force fed instant tasteless grits into infinity.
You can make a great spoonbread with grits. It is called Awendaw and is a very old recipe and quite delicious. It uses cooked grits and cornmeal. It is a favorite.
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That comment from the other person is pretty sarcastic, but to answer your question, I make grits all the time, and to make great grits initially its trial and error. I after many years of making grits use my own discretion in how much water to use and grits. What I mean to say that after a couple of times trying, you'll realize that if you don't put enough grits into the boiling water, they'll be soupy, and if you put too much grits into the boiling water they'll be lumpy, so you'll want to add grits for the first couple of minutes while the water's boiling to see the consistancy, then generously add after that until creamy smooth.
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I prefer using broth instead of water for my grits. Just gives it a richer flavour to my palate. I'm also very fond of chipotle cheese grits. Chicken broth, mix in chipotle powder (I buy my from Penzey's), stir in the grits (proportions and instructions from the box) and cook thoroughly (add a little more grits to make it thick), then when it's all thick, dump in shredded/crumble cheese of your choice and mix until creamy and rich. I usually use a very sharp cheddar with the chipotle. :)













