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OCTOBER 2008 COTM: Voting (Ends Today - 9/19)

MMRuth Sep 16, 2008 06:51 AM

As always, lots of great suggestions, and below are the two options that got the most suggestions. Voting ends 9/19 (Friday) so that posters will have plenty of time to get the book(s) and I'll tally up first thing Saturday morning and post the winner. Please use all caps when posting your vote.


• CRADLE OF FLAVOR: Home Cooking from the Spice Islands of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Singapore by James Oseland.


• MARIO BATALI: Molto Italiano, Babbo & Simple Italian Food

Link to suggestions thread, in case anyone wants to look at it:




  1. LulusMom Sep 16, 2008 07:02 AM

    MARIO BATALI. Thanks MMRuth.

    1. Gio Sep 16, 2008 07:46 AM

      MARIO BATALI. Grazie tanto, MM!

      1. foxy fairy Sep 16, 2008 08:44 AM


        Thank you for organizing! I reserved all of the books at the library -- in case! :)

        1. ArikaDawn Sep 16, 2008 09:42 AM

          MARIO BATALI

          Thanks so much! Can't wait to participate again!


          1. rabaja Sep 16, 2008 10:27 AM

            MARIO BATALI
            Thank you!

            1. JoanN Sep 16, 2008 10:55 AM

              CRADLE OF FLAVOR (Hey! At least I'm consistent! And rest assured . . . I'lllll be back!)

              10 Replies
              1. re: JoanN
                LulusMom Sep 16, 2008 11:08 AM

                I've already put that book on my wish list in Jessica's cookies ... so you'll have company.

                1. re: JoanN
                  The Dairy Queen Sep 17, 2008 05:05 AM

                  Throwing in a vote for CRADLE OF FLAVOR so JoanN has some company. In the meantime, I'll start choosing some recipes out of the Mario books--I have recommitted to my Weight Watchers core plan, so, I'll need a head start in finding recipes.

                  Thank you MMRuth.


                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                    mirage Sep 17, 2008 05:13 AM

                    CRADLE OF FLAVOR - it really is a very good cookbook.

                    (But I admit I am looking forward to Batali)

                  2. re: JoanN
                    oakjoan Sep 17, 2008 03:49 PM

                    Aghhhhhhhhhhhhh! Run for your lives! Here comes Joan N. with that danged Cradle of Flavor again!

                    Oh yeah, BATALI MOLTO ITALIANO

                    Yay! Fun to be a voting citizen again!!

                    1. re: oakjoan
                      LulusMom Sep 17, 2008 05:08 PM

                      I think the whole mod. not being allowed to vote thing is really silly ...

                      1. re: LulusMom
                        MMRuth Sep 17, 2008 05:30 PM

                        For what it's worth, in my short experience, the mod's vote would not be outcome determinative.

                        1. re: MMRuth
                          LulusMom Sep 17, 2008 06:12 PM

                          Exactly. Part of my point about why it seems silly not to allow the mod to vote. Seems like it might keep some away from being willing to take his or her turn.

                          1. re: LulusMom
                            MMRuth Sep 18, 2008 03:25 AM

                            Interesting point - I was thinking of it the opposite way, but it's something worth thinking about. Jen Kalb also raised some organizational issues, so maybe I'll start - or anyone else is welcome to, of course, a thread on Site Talk in a couple of days.

                            1. re: MMRuth
                              LulusMom Sep 18, 2008 05:52 AM

                              Gosh, I hope I didn't step on any toes. I just think it seems like this should be as fun for the organizer as it is for everyone else, and not getting to vote seems silly, considering it will be so unlikey to effect the final outcome.

                              1. re: LulusMom
                                MMRuth Sep 18, 2008 05:54 AM

                                Oh no - not at all - don't worry! One idea could be for the mod to vote last, so that it doesn't in anyway influence any one's vote - not that it would, of course!

                  3. Rubee Sep 16, 2008 11:31 AM

                    MARIO BALTALI. Thanks MMRuth!

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                      CeeBee Sep 16, 2008 12:29 PM

                      MARIO BATALI.

                      Thanks,MM. I think I should finally have the time to participate this go-round. I've been lurking on the COTM since the beginning!

                      1. arizonagirl Sep 16, 2008 12:33 PM

                        MARIO BATALI

                        1. NYCkaren Sep 16, 2008 01:26 PM

                          MARIO BATALI

                          I have "Molto Italiano" but those who don't own any of his books can easily download recipes from FN and elsewhere.

                          1. pikawicca Sep 16, 2008 03:16 PM


                            1. k
                              Karen_Schaffer Sep 16, 2008 04:14 PM

                              MARIO BATALI.

                              JoanN, I've checked Cradle of Flavor out of the library and am totally smitten with the writing (haven't even cooked from it yet), so I definitely want to do it sometime! But just not this month.

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                                ErikaK Sep 16, 2008 07:57 PM

                                • MARIO BATALI
                                I am on a self imposed cookbook moratorium and I already have these :) along with the new Italian Grill

                                1. Carb Lover Sep 16, 2008 11:03 PM

                                  MARIO BATALI!

                                  Thanks for including Simple Italian Food. :-)

                                  1. OldDog Sep 17, 2008 01:21 AM

                                    MARIO BATALI: Molto Italiano, Babbo & Simple Italian Food

                                    1. waver Sep 17, 2008 07:50 AM

                                      Cradle of flavour.

                                      1. heathermb Sep 17, 2008 08:45 AM

                                        MARIO BATALI


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                                          newfoodie Sep 17, 2008 10:23 AM

                                          I think MARIO BATALI would be a great first COTM.

                                          One question though, do I need to purchase all three books?

                                          7 Replies
                                          1. re: newfoodie
                                            JoanN Sep 17, 2008 10:26 AM

                                            Absolutely not! In fact, you don't have to purchase any. There are lots of Batali recipes online, and you could use those. I usually take a book out of the library first and only decide to buy it if I love what I've made and know for sure that I want to add it to my collection.

                                            1. re: JoanN
                                              newfoodie Sep 17, 2008 10:38 AM

                                              Thanks Joan!

                                              1. re: newfoodie
                                                The Dairy Queen Sep 17, 2008 01:25 PM

                                                For what it's worth, if Batali is the winner (and it looks like it will be) I will probably do some combo of checking books out from the library and finding recipes online. I have plenty of Italian cookbooks and unless I fall in love with the Batali ones, don't really need another right now.


                                                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                  foxy fairy Sep 18, 2008 09:08 AM

                                                  Me too, DQ. I already requested all of Batali's books at the library, and I'll only buy them if I really feel compelled. I tend to do that in general with COTM and then I splurge on the books that are most transformative for my cooking (like The Slow Mediterranean Kitchen).

                                                  1. re: foxy fairy
                                                    The Dairy Queen Sep 18, 2008 09:30 AM

                                                    I've actually been buying most of the COTM's (every since I ruined my Dunlop/Chinese library books and had to buy them anyway) if I didn't already have a book from that cuisine, but, I'm probably going to start getting more selective because I'm just accumulating too many books.


                                              2. re: JoanN
                                                MMRuth Sep 17, 2008 10:42 AM

                                                And we usually try to post lots of links to recipes available on other sites as well on the thread for the month so you don't even really have to go digging for them unless you want to. The reason for doing three books was that there was a lot of interest in Batali, but not everyone had the same book etc., so I decided to be inclusive!

                                              3. re: newfoodie
                                                CeeBee Sep 19, 2008 04:58 AM

                                                I encourage everyone to utlilize their local library! It's such a great way to try out a cookbook before you invest in the purchase. I have so so many cookbooks that I bought and now don't use because they just weren't what I was expecting. In fact, I should donate those to the library booksale, come to think of it!
                                                I've requested all three of the books and it usually only takes a few days for them to arrive at my local branch.

                                              4. jen kalb Sep 17, 2008 03:30 PM

                                                CRADLE OF FLAVOR but Im resigned to the People's choice.. As previously noted, this is really best as a warm season book. Would it be possible to do some advance planning rather than having this come down to a monthly popularity contest? I really hated to have to choose between vietnamese and malaysian and I agree we need to mix it up..

                                                4 Replies
                                                1. re: jen kalb
                                                  JoanN Sep 17, 2008 03:46 PM

                                                  I agree, jen. I promise not to nominate it again until what? April? Is April warm enough? I'm making a note in my calendar.

                                                  1. re: JoanN
                                                    LulusMom Sep 17, 2008 05:07 PM

                                                    Nertz, I was thinking January would be just about right for another round of spicy asian food.

                                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                                      oakjoan Sep 17, 2008 05:14 PM

                                                      I'd even go for another round of Dunlop. I could cook from those books forever. Can't really think why I love them so much more than any other Chinese cookbooks I've ever had. Maybe because many of the others I've had over the years only had recipes using easily findable ingredients for their time. China Moon was the exception, but that was just toooo finicky for my taste.

                                                      Sorry for blabbing in voting thread. I started out just to say I'd have to take a look at Cradle of Flavor.

                                                      1. re: oakjoan
                                                        LulusMom Sep 17, 2008 06:11 PM

                                                        Oh yeah, Dunlop was a huge hit here, as is this month.

                                                2. alkapal Sep 18, 2008 04:32 AM

                                                  for all you batali lovers, i posted this excellent interview/cooking demo associated with his new italian grilling book. his combination of flavors is innovative and so darn appetizing. interesting wine pairings, too, from the sommelier who conducts the interview, and observes (and drinks with mario) in the cooking demos....


                                                  1. NYchowcook Sep 18, 2008 05:22 AM

                                                    Some day CRADLE OF FLAVOR will be our COTM . . . .And I'm looking forward to it.
                                                    That's my vote, though it looks like not this month.

                                                    3 Batali books?? And his web recipes?! Kinda wacky imho -- oeuvre of the month? But I'm there w/ my fellow hounds' choice. Joan -- maybe we should do a mini Ruth-type posting on CoF to persuade others of its merits -- maybe to warm them up for the April voting?

                                                    2 Replies
                                                    1. re: NYchowcook
                                                      MMRuth Sep 18, 2008 05:26 AM

                                                      To be clear, "technically" all of his recipes on the web are not included - just the ones that are from those three books. I agree that it would be too scattered to include all of his online recipes. People have been posting them so that those who don't want to buy the book can see what is available on line.

                                                      1. re: NYchowcook
                                                        JoanN Sep 18, 2008 06:08 AM

                                                        >maybe we should do a mini Ruth-type posting on CoF to persuade others of its merits<

                                                        Actually, I had every intention of doing that. I'd even bought many ingredients specifically to do so. But then, I became so enamored of Nguyen's book--and some of the ingredients I'd bought for CoF were appropriate for ItVK--that I just haven't gotten around to it. I'll be away from my kitchen quite a bit next month; perhaps soon thereafter (especially if there's a COTM choice in an upcoming month that doesn't particularly appeal to me.) :-)

                                                      2. pitu Sep 18, 2008 08:35 PM

                                                        MARIO BATALI
                                                        (as intriguing as COF is, coming off the Viet enthusiasm on the board...)

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                                                          ginnyhw Sep 19, 2008 11:36 AM

                                                          MARIO BATALI

                                                          Who was last October? i made a great chicken stock from that book and now I can't remember the title.

                                                          5 Replies
                                                          1. re: ginnyhw
                                                            MMRuth Sep 19, 2008 11:43 AM

                                                            Last October was Julia Child. I use her "The Way to Cook" recipe for chicken stock all the time.

                                                            1. re: MMRuth
                                                              ginnyhw Sep 19, 2008 12:06 PM

                                                              I looked at my library history and it was Patricia Wells Vegetable Harvest so it must have been September. I remember we had a heat wave right after I ordered it so I froze the stock and abandoned my big plans for whatever I was planning to make.

                                                              1. re: ginnyhw
                                                                MMRuth Sep 19, 2008 12:11 PM

                                                                Here's the link to the list of COTMs:


                                                                So was the chicken stock from Wells's book? I wasn't sure from your post. If so, did you like anything else from that book - I found one or two recipes that I liked, but was less than thrilled, sadly, with the rest of them!

                                                                1. re: MMRuth
                                                                  ginnyhw Sep 19, 2008 12:21 PM

                                                                  My husband loved the chicken stock and I used it in a decent squash soup recipe from the book. I also made a chickpea spread that was pretty good - it used a pesto recipe from the pantry section. I think I liked the pantry section recipes better than the main events. I have a copy of the Way to Cook but I get lazy about making my own chicken stock these days.

                                                                  1. re: ginnyhw
                                                                    MMRuth Sep 19, 2008 12:42 PM

                                                                    The one thing I really loved from that book was the Prune Pear Compote - I think I posted the recipe - great w/ cheese.

                                                          2. v
                                                            vmorgan Sep 19, 2008 11:54 AM

                                                            CRADLE OF FLAVOR

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                                                              Karen_Schaffer Sep 20, 2008 09:04 AM

                                                              Would it be possible to put up the list of all of the COTM books (with the links to their main link page) as a sticky topic? It would be so helpful for tracking down COTM recipes and comments.

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                                                              1. re: Karen_Schaffer
                                                                JoanN Sep 20, 2008 09:47 AM

                                                                I keep a Word document on my desktop with the list and links for exactly that reason. If, for whatever reason, The Chowhound Team prefers not to create such a sticky, having such a document available at a click might be an acceptable workaround.

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