555087 Fri Sep 05 21:33:44 -0700 2008 15 1 San Francisco Bay Area 0 4012577 Some talk on the General board reminded me of a quest I have had forever (since I moved to San Francisco in 1991, at least!) - where can I find authentic German bauernbrot (dark farmer's rye bread) and broetchen (those little rolls that are on every German and Austrian breakfast table, but nowhere to be found in the USA)??? Can anyone help me? Fri Sep 05 21:33:45 -0700 2008 134351 Morticia 1 4012671 Just in the city of SF or Bay Area? Fri Sep 05 23:14:34 -0700 2008 4012577 10264 rworange 1 4012685 http://www.esthersbakery.com/ They are at some farmers markets and a few stores as noted on their website. Their pretzels are really good, as are a lot of their bread and pastries. Sat Sep 06 00:01:06 -0700 2008 4012577 18927 chr 2 4012688 By pretzels I mean the knuspertangen crunch sticks, although the regular pretzels are good too! http://www.esthersbakery.com/snacks/snacks1.htm Sat Sep 06 00:04:42 -0700 2008 4012685 18927 chr 1 4012706 I think Suppenkuche has a dark rye bread in their bread basket - not positive though. I don't know where their bread comes from. Sat Sep 06 00:27:13 -0700 2008 4012577 21930 Dave MP 1 4012784 i feel your pain. i was an army brat that used to complain when my parents would wake us up early saturday mornings with freshly baked brotchen, still hot from the oven (how do i make umlauts work on this machine?). i wanted waffles and cereal...and sleep, really. but i've never found a roll that has tasted right in the US. and i miss them so much now. but i would suggest checking out esther's german bakery. http://www.esthersbakery.com/ the only place that i know of that retails their products in the city is rainbow grocery. their pretzels are fairly spot on, but often times i get there late and many of their products are sold out or stale. they sell german style rolls, as well as some of the darker, whole grain breads, including rye breads. i haven't fully explored their products, but the pretzels and the rolls and a few of their desserts gave me a whiff of nostalgia. not quite right, but pretty good. EDIT: oops! i replied without reading the responses in my own yearning for german breads. obviously others have already mentioned esthers. but let's just say i agree that you should check them out. Sat Sep 06 04:33:52 -0700 2008 4012577 27741 augustiner 2 4013088 Augustiner Brötchen. Easier than changing language of machine, beyond my ability, Google the word and copy/paste the accented word. Sat Sep 06 09:02:51 -0700 2008 4012784 105235 wolfe 1 4012991 Esther's is good. Pure Grain's another option. I'm not sure about retailers, I think they supply Suppenkuche. There's also OctoberFeast, they're at Rainbow and some Whole Foods. Can't get a link to work: http://www.chow.com/places/36733 Sat Sep 06 07:58:01 -0700 2008 4012577 11369 Robert Lauriston 2 4013109 Correcting the link: Sat Sep 06 09:11:41 -0700 2008 4012991 11369 Robert Lauriston 1 4014423 Okay, now that you guys have been kind enough to help poor Morticia find some German bread - does anyone have tips for really great European butter, and where to find it??? Sat Sep 06 20:38:06 -0700 2008 4012577 134351 Morticia 2 4014674 SFChron taste off with locations. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/13/FDGASMT5PD1.DTL&hw=butter+tasting&sn=008&sc=535 Sun Sep 07 04:17:53 -0700 2008 4014423 105235 wolfe 3 4021346 I sometimes see the the Challenge European style butter that won the Chron tasting at Grocery Outlet in Oakland. Whole Foods has a surprisingly good selection of specialty butters. IIRC they aren't in with the "regular" butter, but in a different part of the dairy case, so they're easy to overlook. Tue Sep 09 14:09:01 -0700 2008 4014674 10159 Ruth Lafler 4 4021398 I bought it at Andronico's Solano. Tue Sep 09 14:27:02 -0700 2008 4021346 105235 wolfe 2 4015027 I regularly buy Plugra (for baking) at Trader Joe's, but if you're having trouble finding what you want I assume you're looking for cultured butter? We got some European-style cultured butter from Spring Hill Jersey Cheese at the Berkeley Saturday farmers market. I've bought imported cultured butters at Berkeley Bowl and the Cheese Board. Sun Sep 07 09:09:39 -0700 2008 4014423 11369 Robert Lauriston 2 4017652 Check out Rainbow. They have a number of French brands there, cultured, and one Italian brand as well. Whole Foods probably has a couple as well, but I always get them at Rainbow. If you like Plugra (European style, made in the US), it's available at Rainbow and Trader Joe's. Mon Sep 08 11:04:52 -0700 2008 4014423 10157 farmersdaughter 1 4015047 Mollie Stone's sells a large variety of different European and European-style butters. www.molliestones.com Sun Sep 07 09:16:58 -0700 2008 4012577 10644 Nancy Berry