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jeremyn Sep 4, 2008 11:07 AM

My fiancee and I have booked a flight to Frankfurt for 2.5 weeks in late May/early June 2009. We're flying into Frankfurt because it is nonstop, free (with flier miles), and a good central hub for the cities we are thinking of visiting. We don't necessarily have to stay there for very long (or at all). Right now we're definitely planning on going to Paris, but the rest of our itinerary is up in the air. Locations we're considering are:

Amsterdam
Belgium (Bruges/Ghent/Antwerp/various cities)
Paris & other french cities
Zurich & surrounding areas,
Innsbruck Austria and surrounding areas
Munich/Frankfurt.

We can definitely add suggestions to the list, but we obviously won't have time to visit all of these.

Any suggestions? Where will we find the best food culture? Our food budget is roughly $80-90 USD per day ($40-45 pp), so we're probably looking at a lot of street food, bakeries, and cafes with an occasional nice place.

We're both skiers and would love to see the alps and maybe ski, but it's not a must. As far as sights go, we tend to enjoy cities with narrow, old, cobblestone alleys that are dated and quaint and that you can walk around for hours and get lost in. Food, of course, is also a big factor.

Anyway, we're totally open for suggestions. Anyone care to help?

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    Steve Oct 2, 2008 12:40 PM

    It's hard to get more charming and 'getting lost' worthy than in Vienna where the food culture is great and comparitively affordable.

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    1. re: Steve
      girobike Oct 2, 2008 11:56 PM

      To back Steve up, here's a list of places that maybe you could check out that conform to your expectations posted above:

      Korso bei der Oper Mahlerstraße 2, 1010 WIEN
      Le Siècle Parkring 16, 1010 WIEN
      Mörwald „Ambassador“ Kärntner Straße 22, 1010 WIEN
      Novelli Bräunerstraße 11a, 1010 WIEN
      Vestibül Dr.-Karl-Lueger-Ring 2, 1010 WIEN
      Vincent Große Pfarrgasse 7, 1020 WIEN
      Artner Floragasse 6, 1040 WIEN
      Benkei Ungargasse 6, 1030 WIEN
      Do & Co Stephansplatz Stephansplatz 12 (Haas-Haus), 1010 WIEN
      Eckel Sieveringer Straße 46, 1190 WIEN
      Ella’s Bar. Restaurant Judenplatz 9-10, 1010 WIEN
      Fadinger Wipplingerstraße 29, 1010 WIEN
      Gastwirtschaft Brod Bahngasse 1, 2700 WIENER NEUSTADT
      Gaumenspiel Zieglergasse 54, 1070 WIEN
      Green Cottage Kettenbrückengasse 3, 1050 WIEN
      Grünauer Hermanngasse 32, 1070 WIEN
      Harry`s Time Dr.-Karl-Lueger-Platz 5, 1010 WIEN
      Meixner`s Gastwirtschaft Buchengasse 64, 1100 WIEN
      Osteria d‘Atri Schauflergasse 4, 1010 WIEN
      Sapori im Radisson SAS Style Hotel Herrengasse 12, 1010 WIEN
      Schnattl Lange Gasse 40, 1080 WIEN
      Sopile Paulanergasse 10, 1040 WIEN
      Tempel Praterstraße 56, Innenhof, 1020 WIEN
      Weibel 3 Riemergasse 1-3, 1010 WIEN
      Zum Kaiserlichen Thron Andreasgasse 7 (Hofmobiliendepot), 1070 WIE

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        Steve Oct 4, 2008 03:12 PM

        Quite a list. Is Zum Finsteren 2 still there near the old Doll and Toy Museum? Have you been? how about Gasthaus Wild on the way to the Kunsthaus Wien?

    2. Willem Sep 7, 2008 06:36 AM

      In Paris you will surely find good food at good prices. Avoid the cartier latin, and any touristy spot. That said, their are plenty of nice brasseries. In Saint Germain de pres area you will find many nice ones for example. Libanese food is often OK in Paris, as is Senegalese, and in the 13th district superb Vietnamese can be found. Kind of an 'institution', though nowadays perhaps a little too known, is Chartier. Perhaps not the best in town, but certainly nice for some escargots and lamb cassoulet, served by very old, stylishly grumpy waiters.

      Amsterdam has plenty affordable good food, just do a search here on chowhound.

      Antwerps is a culinairy gem. Again, avoid the touristy spots, and go to for example the Waalse Kaai. Antwerps has a 'jenever' cafe as well, in case you wanna sample something strong. Plenty of tasty affordable food in nice surroundings. Gent is OK as well, and less risky in terms of tourist traps. [I disagree that Belgium resembles Paris. Perhaps Brussels a little, but this doesn't go for the Flemish cities].

      In the South of Germany (app. on your way to Munchen) Bamberg has many nice beer halls (obviously Munchen even more...) and is a nice town. When you enter the old town over the bridge trough the gate you will find a nice restaurant at the left corner in front of you. Closeby Wurtzberg is a wine oriented city (sylvaner, riesling). In the 'Burgenspital' you can sample many wines, and they have a nice restaurant with typical regional fare.

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      1. re: Willem
        Willem Sep 8, 2008 06:09 AM

        ah, and when you are in the Netherlands/Belgium, perhaps Maastricht is a nice destination. It is a 2000 year old, charming, relaxed town, with a lot of good eateries. There is many a 'eetcafe' ("eating pub"), though the fare is more brasserie like. A great example is Cafe Sjiek (Pieterstraat), where you can get your oisters, escargot, pigeon roast of 'kenien op ze mestreechs', which is a loacal dish of rabit stewed with beer, spices, and 'stroop', a very concentrated apple sirup. The great two-michelin-starred beluga recently opened a nice more affordable place called Beluga Next door (Koestraat). At the touristy Vrijthof there is one good spot: the very Italian Gio's. For lunch with union soup and a nicoise salad the Moriaan (Stokstraat) is nice. I hear good things about Appart (Achter de Molens; I happen to know one of the cooks, she is great!) and Ilya (Koestraat). More upmarket there is of course the splendid Beluga, Rozemarijn, Tout a Fait, and the evry classic Au Coin des Bonnes Enfants. And when you would like to dine in a catle, go to Chateau Neercanne.
        by the way: although Maastricht is inland, the fish is very good, even the famous fishmonger Schmidt from Rotterdam has a dependance there and the local fish market is good - daily fresh supply. Bon ap.
        (for Belgian beers go to Fallstaff at the Amorsplein, or Take One at the Rechtstraat).

      2. girobike Sep 6, 2008 01:52 AM

        Hi, we live part of the time in Munich, travel extensively throughout Europe specifically to eat and are foodies with a very critical eye. I'll try to add to wanderinglady & zuriga1's points and answer your questions:

        - The best food culture for your price range is Paris. But I would pick carefully. Thanks to Chowhound & TripAdvisor, you can plan well.

        - The Alps: Skiing would be a no-go unless there's a big change in weather (possible nowadays). The best place that incorporates both food and the Alps in our opinion is South Tyrol between Austria & Italy: http://www.suedtirol.info/SInfo/EntryPage/EN_EntryPage.html

        - Locations: Belgium would be a repeat of Paris, but at a smaller scale and better beer. Innsbruck is too touristy. Vienna (Wien) would be much better for your needs (food + cobblestones). Zurich would be a repeat of Austria. Munich is quaint to visit, but to be honest, Stuttgart is far better value for money for food. Frankfurt is the financial city of Germany, so its big buildings (many of the cobblestone streets with fine architecture got wiped out in the last war).

        Last tip: Save up all your money (you'll need $500+) for a magical moment in a forest at L'Arnsbourg in the Alsace. I just posted something there:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/267015

        1. zuriga1 Sep 6, 2008 01:25 AM

          I don't think there's any skiing in the Alps that late in the season. Frankfurt is mostly a modern, business-oriented city so I wouldn't plan on spending too much time in that area once you land. I didn't find the food there very interesting. Cologne is a good city for travellers and has many nice restaurants and more of good feel. I'm very partial to Paris and if you're willing to eat simply, there are lots of good places and street food to try. You could easily spend 4-5 days there. Amsterdam is another favorite of mine.. lots of small cafes (many mentioned here if you search), good food in the markets and so much to see and do.

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          1. re: zuriga1
            IFS2008 Sep 7, 2008 03:00 PM

            Re Frankfurt: discover youself! Frankfurt has one of the top three restaurants near-by (amaodor in Langen - rather save some money and then go there or in Tasca in Wiesbaden the secon restaurant of Juan Amador), lots of traditional Applewoi (apple wine) places to discover and two very interesting restaurant in the Coocoon club - lots more. I would strongly recommend the Rheingau, Rheinhessen and Mosel if you are interested in wine.

          2. wanderinglady Sep 4, 2008 11:35 AM

            A great place for food is Lyon, France. Not just because of Paul Bocuse and his influence, but lots of street food, bakeries, cafes and markets. Also, it's near the Saone wine region. It's in eastern France, so it's not too far from the Alps. Besides the food, I thought Lyon was very charming (for a big city, that is).

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