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Looking for Scuppernongs

noshie Sep 2, 2008 09:23 PM

Does anyone know where I can find them?

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  1. ipsedixit RE: noshie Sep 2, 2008 09:54 PM

    Best bet would be to check some of the local farmers markets, i.e. santa monica, hollywood, etc.

    Complete list of farmers market in and around LA: http://www.latimes.com/features/food/...

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    1. re: ipsedixit
      wutzizname RE: ipsedixit Sep 3, 2008 03:58 AM

      Yes. Always at the Hollywood Farmers Market on Sundays.

    2. JEN10 RE: noshie Sep 3, 2008 06:34 AM

      Forgive my ignorince, but what are scuppernogs?

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      1. re: JEN10
        ipsedixit RE: JEN10 Sep 3, 2008 09:12 AM

        Fancy schmancy grapes.

        1. re: ipsedixit
          Will Owen RE: ipsedixit Sep 3, 2008 10:11 AM

          Neither fancy nor schmancy. American wild grape, native to the east and midwest, much like a Concord in that there's a layer of sweet, fragrant juice just under the (tough) skin, while the pulp itself is basically flavorless. Devotees are fanatical about them. Make good jelly and, um, interesting wine...

          1. re: Will Owen
            JEN10 RE: Will Owen Sep 3, 2008 03:48 PM

            What a bizarre name for a grape!!! Thanks for the info.

            1. re: JEN10
              Akitist RE: JEN10 Sep 3, 2008 04:24 PM

              Native American word, or an Anglicized version thereof. No more bizarre than Cucamonga.

              1. re: Akitist
                silverlakebodhisattva RE: Akitist Sep 3, 2008 07:18 PM

                Eh, we're well out of locale-specific stuff, but it's also spelled "suppernoNg". Scuppernong grapes are, I believe, the state fruit of one of the Carolinas, and turn up in Faulkner. . .

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                  Red4Mit RE: silverlakebodhisattva Sep 3, 2008 08:24 PM

                  Scuppernongs (green/bronze) grape color) and Muscadines (dark grape color) are very indigenous to the South. I grew up in South Carolina and we used to pick them all the time to eat and make jellies/jams, and my grandfather made wine from them. I have been in SoCal for 12 years and have never found them at any Farmer's Market here.

                  1. re: Red4Mit
                    noshie RE: Red4Mit Sep 4, 2008 08:27 AM

                    I am sorry for the typo. I am sorry to hear they are not available here, I wonder why? I just had some in the South. I just love their thick sour skins combined with the sweet inside.

                    I haven't had any luck with boiled peanuts here either.

                    1. re: noshie
                      Akitist RE: noshie Sep 4, 2008 09:06 AM

                      Boiled peanuts are a Southeast Asian favorite. Try a Thai or Filipino market.

                      Why no scuppernongs? Well, this is a (the?) major grape-producing state, transport isn't cheap, so there just may not be enough demand to make it profitable.

                      1. re: Akitist
                        silverlakebodhisattva RE: Akitist Sep 4, 2008 10:45 AM

                        Scuppernongs: I'm thinking that this is not only an indigenous Southeast fruit, but one without much commercial production anywhere; people who want 'em know whose backyard, or which vacant lot, has'em. Maybe they don't do well enough under cultivation, or don't ship well enough, to justify anyone selling 'em. Sorta like trying to find fresh loquats for sale in most places,,,. . . and while I'm given to understand that there are in fact still "Paw-paw patches" in the South, as far as I know, I've never seen a paw-paw, notwithstanding the song....

            2. re: Will Owen
              creamfinger RE: Will Owen Sep 4, 2008 01:42 PM

              I'm curious, can "schmancy" be used without being preseded by "fancy"? To use the example at hand, can you just have schmancy grapes, or are fancy schmancy grapes your only option?

              1. re: creamfinger
                silverlakebodhisattva RE: creamfinger Sep 4, 2008 02:24 PM

                Naw, you can't really be just "schmancy", just as nobody's going to ever introduce you to all their "gruntled" employees.

                R. "too-much-vocabulary" Gould-Saltman

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          Hailyn RE: noshie Sep 4, 2008 02:13 PM

          Scuppernongs and other muscadines are indigenous to the Southeast, and I've never seen any at farmers markets or other markets here. You might, however, like Kyoho grapes, which are a Japanese grape that is a "slipskin" variety just like scuppernongs, and have some of the flowery muscat flavor of scuppernongs. Japanese and Korean marketes sell Kyoho grapes this time of year. I've gotten them at Mitsuwa and Nijiya supermarkets in both downtown LA and the Westside.

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