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Fun and interesting dining near the Valley Ho?

Soledad Aug 28, 2008 10:00 PM

We have good friends staying at the Valley Ho this weekend. We'd like to go out with them to a nearby restaurant, someplace interesting, not necessarily trendy, with very good food and atmosphere. They're Tucsonans so Mexican food is not a necessity. When we visited them in Tucson, they took us to the Blue Fin. Thanks for your help!

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    danieli10 Sep 4, 2008 08:38 AM

    I'm a little late to the conversation, but a couple of other good spots are Wildfish, Sea Saw, and Stingray for sushi. All very different places, Wildfish is wonderful seafood and steaks, Sea Saw is indescribable, Japanese tasting of the finest quality (not even close to a sushi bar), and Stingray is fun for Sushi, but a little crazy on Friday and Saturday nights.

    1. tastyjon Aug 30, 2008 12:26 AM

      I'd hate to be obvious, but the Trader Vics at the Valley Ho is something you can't find in PHX, TUC, etc. Pretty much brand new yet retro in feel, it's festive and special. Do some searches for the VH + Scottsdale and get full reviews for a better idea.

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      1. re: tastyjon
        Maggie Kramer Sep 1, 2008 06:23 PM

        I would second Fine's Cellar. Wonderful wine list - although was a bit bummed to be served a room temperature red last week. :-( Excellent food, though.

        Trader Vics is fun for drinking - great cocktails. We used to hang out at the one in LA quite a bit!

        That was pretty funny chowmix, this place could use a little humor sometimes! :-)

        1. re: tastyjon
          Bill Hunt Sep 2, 2008 06:54 PM


          I hesitated doing so, because of the many comments made to me by locals, who knew the old, and have tried the new and have hated it.

          I have done neither, though I am old enough to remember Trader Vic, himself, playing the piano in an early 747-BC to Hawai`i. Man, do I miss the old BC's and the piano bar. Now, ships to Hawai`i do not even have FC any more. It's more like Economy ++, but they charge you FC rates. But, I digress.

          Most of the good reviews have come from folk, who had not experienced the original. It has been almost universal that if the diner went to the old, they were horribly disappointed with the current iteration. I've only done a few events at the Valley Ho, and they were just OK.

          I thought of it, but did not mention it.


          1. re: Bill Hunt
            Seth Chadwick Sep 2, 2008 08:00 PM

            I think you nailed it, Hunt. If you remember the old one, you will hate the new incarnation.

            I have eaten at Trader Vic's four times now and every single meal has been wonderful. The service was attentive, the food was delicious and flavorful, and the atmosphere was exotic, but subdued.

            But, everyone's mileage will vary.

            1. re: Seth Chadwick
              Bill Hunt Sep 2, 2008 08:51 PM

              Glad to hear this report Seth. I have only the reports of others to base my hesitation on. Most of the newcomers love it. Most of the old-timers hate it. There seems to be little middle ground, and I have dined at neither. Some of these are CH-types, some foodies and many just "average folk." Still, there seems to be a dicotomy of results and it is split between the old-school TV's and the newcomers. Gotta' try it, since I have no pre-conceived notions.


              1. re: Bill Hunt
                Seth Chadwick Sep 2, 2008 09:21 PM

                I highly recommend you get something from the deep fryer. I have said before and will reiterate that whoever handles the deep fryer at Trader Vic's is fantastic at what they do.

                1. re: Seth Chadwick
                  Bill Hunt Sep 3, 2008 05:53 PM

                  Being a "son of the Old South" (read Deep South), deep frying is still close to my heart. Too close, according to my cardiologist, but what does he know? He's not FROM the South.

                  I am always ready to follow any suggestion that you have. We WILL try TV's - still miss him on the flights to Hawai`i.

                  Thanks for the tip,


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          Beaver Street Aug 29, 2008 10:00 AM

          Sorry - I can't get the link to work, but Grazie is at 6952 E. Main St.

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            hohokam Aug 29, 2008 10:03 AM


            Grazie Pizzeria & Wine Bar
            6952 E Main St, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

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            Beaver Street Aug 29, 2008 09:57 AM

            For something fairly casual and within walking distance, I have also really enjoyed Grazie Pizzeria and Wine Bar. I would also really recommend at least having appetizers in the bar at the Hotel Valley Ho - they serve the menu from Cafe ZuZu and I've always been impressed.

            1. hohokam Aug 29, 2008 08:05 AM

              I've have very good meals at Digestif and Fine's Cellar, both of which are near the Valley Ho.

              Fine's Cellar
              7051 E 5th Ave Ste M, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

              7114 E. Stetson Drive, Scottsdale, AZ 85351

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                chowmix Aug 29, 2008 04:35 AM

                The Valley Ho? This woman must be quite prolific to be so well known! It might help if you gave us a clue about where you are located!

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                1. re: chowmix
                  aaronling Aug 29, 2008 10:14 AM

                  Not sure if you're trying to be funny or not but the Valley Ho is a hotel in downtown Scottsdale: http://www.hotelvalleyho.com/content/...?

                  1. re: aaronling
                    Bill Hunt Aug 29, 2008 08:00 PM

                    Thank you for commenting. At first, I assumed there was some joke that I had just missed.

                    Now, to the area near the Vally Ho: I am a fan of Cowboy Ciao. I have only had meals at "events" on property, so cannot really comment on those.


                    Cowboy Ciao
                    7133 East Stetson Drive, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

                    1. re: Bill Hunt
                      Soledad Aug 30, 2008 07:59 PM

                      I appreciate all the suggestions from Cowboy Ciao to Grazie to Digestif. Sad to say, all of us in this dinner party are old enough to remember when Trader Vic's was new and an excellent place to try out a fake I.D. If I were hipper I'd try for a double irony but I don't think I can pull that off. Nice idea though. Thanks for your help and I'll let you know how our dinner experience went.

                  2. re: chowmix
                    Soledad Aug 30, 2008 07:55 PM

                    Well, Chowmix, you must have a varied and interesting life to make jokes at 4:30 am. Stay in touch; I'll bet you have stories to tell.

                    1. re: chowmix
                      Beach Chick Sep 2, 2008 11:34 PM

                      very solid chowmix..

                      Trader Vic's, Fine's Cellar, Cowboy Ciao are great places.

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