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Looking for a good Asian/Sushi dinner....

mh4e Aug 28, 2008 10:32 AM

My bf's birthday is coming up and I'm looking for a nice Sushi/Asian restaurant to take him. Someplace with fresh fish and nice atmosphere. Nothing crazy expensive like Urasawa. I originally made reservations at Hokusai but from the reviews I've read it's not looking too good. Please help!!

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    NAspy Sep 4, 2008 11:30 AM

    I would strongly suggest Kiriko on Sawtelle Blvd. He is very strong in the sushi/sashimi department and has an extensive menu of cooked dishes as well, not just the usual teriyaki and tempura. He house smokes his own salmon and serves house made ice cream for dessert. Many people (Jonathan Gold for one) think Ken is the most unsung sushi chef in LA..

    It's not a very large space -- long sushi bar and maybe about 8 tables; somewhat dark and spare in design, and I think it will easily meet your price range depending on what you choose to order.

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      bulavinaka Sep 4, 2008 02:30 PM

      I strongly agree 100% with your assessment, but addressing each of the OP's desires, she is stressing atmosphere as well - she wants it all!

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        mh4e Sep 5, 2008 08:56 AM

        Do you know if they are open on Sundays?

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          bulavinaka Sep 5, 2008 09:12 AM

          Yes, I believe they are, but I think the hours are abbreviated. And as it's been said countless times, Sunday is not an optimal day for sushi, so if you're looking for a pristine sushi experience, Sunday is not the day...

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            mh4e Sep 5, 2008 09:18 AM

            Good point, thanks!

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      NYCnowLA Aug 29, 2008 09:39 AM

      Boss Sushi in BH

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        mh4e Aug 29, 2008 10:00 AM

        Thank you! The menu looks great but what about the atmosphere. There were no photos and I'm looking for someplace romantic as well.

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          bulavinaka Aug 29, 2008 10:15 AM

          Bar Hayama in West LA? Smallish but stylish, nice outdoor fireplace, sushi plus varied menu, good sake pairings, relatively close to the 405, and should be within your budget even with drinks...


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            mh4e Aug 29, 2008 10:29 AM

            Thanks barhayama, this place looks good, I'd never heard of it before but it definitely is what I'm looking for.

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              J.L. Aug 29, 2008 10:51 AM

              Second vote for Bar Hayama.

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                mh4e Aug 29, 2008 12:04 PM

                How's the decor? Is it romantic? I saw a pic of the fire pit wondered what the seating around it was like? Is it a bunch of little tables around the pit or one long table that goes around so your seated next to other people?

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                  wilafur Sep 3, 2008 11:38 AM

                  there are a few tables adjacent to the fire pit. however, the majority of the seating is along the ring around the firepit itself.

              2. re: bulavinaka
                mh4e Sep 3, 2008 09:19 AM

                OK, so I've changed my reservation to Bar Hayama and reserved seats by the fire pit. Any suggestions on what to order?

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                  bulavinaka Sep 3, 2008 11:26 AM

                  Here's a list of my personal likes:
                  Age dashi dofu
                  Shishito peppers *
                  Garlic edamame
                  Crispy rice/spicy tuna
                  Blue fin tuna tartar
                  Blue fin tuna w/ blue cheese & shoyu
                  Ankimo pate'
                  Clams in broth *
                  Grilled ika w/ spicy mayo

                  * - not sure about availability/seasonal

                  Being that the topic of sushi can be a very personal thing if not extremely controversial, I can only speak for myself. My personal opinion on the quality of seafood at Bar Hayama is excellent. The sushi and sashimi are first rate. With that said, I'm not going to tell you that their offerings will rock your world. I personally think for that kind of experience, one who is well-versed in sushi needs to visit a house where sushi and only sushi is offered. Your personal tastes will dictate what you decide to choose from their selection. Rolls in general aren't my personal preference when ordering sushi, but I love salmon skin so their salmon skin roll is an easy-do for me, and their yellow tail/scallion roll is good too.

                  You might want to enquire about the specials as they tend to have good ones, and also ask if salmon (sake) collar or yellow tail (hamachi) collar is available. Since Bar Hayama does both sushi/sashimi and kozara menus, this should be available by default.

                  As a personal note, I've been pulling back from things like Blue fin and Chilean sea bass (another of their menu items) because they are on Seafood Watch's Avoid List. That's my personal choice. I don't know if Bar Hayama will have Black Cod (sablefish, gindara) when you go, but it is a superior substitute for Chilean sea bass, and is on Seafood Watch's Best Choice List. Usually prepared misozuke, misoyake, or kasazuke-style, it is my personal seafood favorite by far.

                  I'm usually not big on desserts at Japanese eateries since the standard Asian-theme ice creams are the norm, which are offered at Bar Hayama, but they do offer a fried bananas w/ ice cream dessert that is fried tempura-style and seems to be popular there.

                  If you have any inkling of if interest in the world of sake, this is the place that you need to do your "research." I'm not crazy about sake in general, but Bar Hayama has a very extensive list - the largest that I'm personally aware of - with a pretty decent breakdown by category/flavor profile, and they offer sake flights so you can sample a few at a time, as opposed to committing to buying a bottle or tokkuri (decanter). The servers are very helpful and accommodating in this area, so if you have any thoughts which you should, ask away...

                  1. re: bulavinaka
                    mh4e Sep 4, 2008 11:03 AM

                    Thank you, that is such a huge help! I love yellowtail so I will definintely try the collar and the sushi. I'm not a big sake fan but my b/f is so I'm sure he will enjoy this place.

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                      bulavinaka Sep 4, 2008 02:31 PM

                      You should give the wide choice of sake a try to put all doubts to rest - no rubbing alcohol here...

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                    J.L. Sep 4, 2008 12:11 AM

                    If they have lobster bisque that night, get it!!

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                  NYCnowLA Sep 5, 2008 09:03 AM

                  About Boss - not romantic. but you could cuddle up together at the sushi bar and pretend no one else is there.

              3. westsidegal Aug 28, 2008 11:16 AM

                what part of town?
                how much do you want to spend? (including or not including beverages, tax, tip)

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                  mh4e Aug 28, 2008 11:29 AM

                  I'm hoping to spend no more than $200 and I'm looking for anywhere in LA, Hollywood, BH, Santa Monica, I'm willing to drive. I'm coming from Chino Hills so anyplace will be a trek. Thanks!

                  1. re: mh4e
                    Emme Aug 28, 2008 02:29 PM

                    beverly hills has some good options...

                    kiyokawa is kind of a hidden gem on robertson. great sushi, great service, great japanese/asian options as well.

                    mako on beverly is another good asian/sushi restaurant in the area.

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                      mh4e Aug 29, 2008 09:17 AM

                      Thank you, I'll definitely check them out, do either of them have a websit?

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                        Servorg Aug 29, 2008 09:35 AM


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                          mh4e Aug 29, 2008 09:58 AM

                          Great, thank you!! I didn't see a sushi menu though...

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                            Servorg Aug 29, 2008 10:02 AM

                            This is not a sushi restaurant. It is Japanese - French fusion food. They may have a sushi style appetizer or two on that nights menu, but I wouldn't count on it.

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                              mh4e Aug 29, 2008 10:09 AM

                              That explains it! Thanks, I'm looking for a sushi place that also has entree's as well.

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                                markn Aug 29, 2008 02:18 PM

                                Respectfully, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Mako. Good sushi places are a dime a dozen in LA and can be found all over, but great fusion cuisine like Mako is truly special and more unique.

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                          Emme Aug 29, 2008 03:00 PM

                          kiyokawa as i said is a hidden gem, no website, no advertising. just solid asian and sushi food, all of high quality.

                          make doesn't specialize in sushi, no, but it is quite good.

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