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Raleigh-Bagels & Lox

RaleighRocker Aug 26, 2008 07:34 AM

I looked at some older threads, but basically I'm a long time southerner BUT i was raised on decent ny bagels & lox. I have lived here 30 odd years so every once in awhile I hope there is a glimmer of hope that some decent one become available.

I do not want to drive, repeat, drive to Durham or Chapel Hill.

I'm talking Raleigh proper, I'll go North if need be, towards WF.


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    sisterbeer RE: RaleighRocker Aug 26, 2008 10:46 AM

    I have yet to find a decent bagel in Raleigh, unfortunately. Lox is also hard to find, but I can tell you that it's surprisingly easy and lo-tech to make it at home. Plus, then you get to slice it as thinly as you like.

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      rockycat RE: RaleighRocker Aug 26, 2008 05:15 PM

      I hate to say it, but Bruegger's is about the best around here - at least when they finish baking them and you don't get those pale, soft "ghost bagels." Some locations, such as the one at Sutton Square (near Fresh Market on FON), are better than others.

      As far as lox goes, at least you can get the pre-packaged stuff from Acme in Harris Teeter. I know it's not the same as hand sliced, but there aren't all that many people in NY who still know how to properly slice fish.

      Now, if you don't mind frozen - and, as far as I'm concerned, the only reason to freeze a bagel is if it's going stale - DaVinci's in WF has H&H bagels. They also have H&H bialys, which don't suffer so much from being frozen. They're a bit pricey, though.

      1. meatn3 RE: RaleighRocker Aug 26, 2008 08:59 PM

        Well, not Raleigh, but Cary - the ones at Trader Joe's are the best I've experienced in the area...

        1. klmonline RE: RaleighRocker Aug 31, 2008 08:08 PM

          Another Cary recommendation is New York Bagel Deli (NYBD) at the corner of Tryon and Kildaire Farm Rd. It's in a shopping plaza anchored by Harris Teeter and Wal-Mart. They cook their bagels on premises the proper New York way. Not as good as the best bagelries in NYC, but as good as I've found 'round here. They'll build a full CC&L sandwich for you. Nothing special about the lox, but perfectly edible.

          NYBD III
          2050 Kildaire Farm Rd, Cary, NC

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            TerryG RE: klmonline Sep 10, 2008 09:13 AM

            NYBD has a North Raleigh location as well in Kroger shopping center at corner of Strickland and Falls of Neuse. Having lived in NYC, I like their bagels (forget the biayls) -- far, far superior to Brueggers. They also have decent NY-style danish, hamantashen, black and whites, and a good assortment of NY-style butter cookies. Babka on Jewish holidays ain't bad. Not crazy about their potato salad or cole slaw, but enjoy their whitefish salad. Lox is OK but nothing special.

            Still for transplants hankering for a taste of the North, they scratch much of that itch.

            New York Bagels & Deli
            7909 Falls of Neuse Rd, Raleigh, NC 27615

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              rockycat RE: TerryG Sep 10, 2008 10:26 AM

              Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. I really haven't found their bagels to be anything special. Cookies and pastries I can't comment on since I never cared for that style of baking even in NYC.

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                TerryG RE: rockycat Sep 11, 2008 09:18 PM

                Aw come on. Better than Brueggers, Ya gotta give 'em that.

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                  chazzer RE: TerryG Sep 12, 2008 06:57 AM

                  May be better, but not enough to go out of my way for.

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            e36YellowM3 RE: RaleighRocker Sep 12, 2008 05:24 AM

            So do y'all think that I've been living here too long if I say I like Panera bagels (like Asiago cheese) with the lox from BJs bought in the plastic package? It's really qualifies as smoked salmon, but does the trick on bagels with cream cheese.

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              Suzy Q RE: e36YellowM3 Sep 20, 2008 09:50 PM

              Hey, I love the asiago bagels from Panera. Nothing wrong with that!

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              barrysheidi RE: RaleighRocker Sep 13, 2008 02:01 PM

              Morning Times in downtown Raleigh has authentic H&H bagels from New York City and I believe they have Lox/Nova too. I moved from NYC last year and this is the closest next to the NYBD in Cary.

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                markit8dude RE: RaleighRocker Sep 13, 2008 02:34 PM

                I hear you! You should check out NY Bagels & Deli at 7909 Falls of Neuse Rd, Raleigh. You don't go there for the ambience (unless you're like my husband and me who miss NY a bunch) and the lines do get long at times but that's because the bagels are good! They have everything from bagels & bialies to black and white cookies...and yes, they have lox. Lots of misplaced yanks ordering up the bagels in this place--we loved it. Hope you like it.

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                  Suzy Q RE: markit8dude Sep 20, 2008 09:52 PM

                  We keep trying this place since my hubby is always looking for a "real NY bagel", but every time we go, it's disappointing. Gotta agree with rockycat and chazzer - they're not really worth driving out of my way for.

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                  jcfitz RE: RaleighRocker Sep 19, 2008 10:55 AM

                  Try Manhattan Bagels at Cary Pkwy and High House. These are the real thing. Also sells knishes!!!

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