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Big Daddy's House, why did we watch

Janet Aug 26, 2008 12:05 AM

Tonight we finallly watched a TIVOed BDH for the first time. I wish I hadn't. The food almost made me ill to look at it. And maybe it is the school teacher in me, but his English is terrible. That bothered me more. No way should FN allow a host to sound that ignorant, ain't over and over. .

The food was setting up a heart attack. Cheese and more cheese, and butter, and then some more cheese. One dish wouldn't be so bad, but all the veggies drowned in cheese.I love butter and cheese, but this was just over the top. Potatoes with a cheese sauce and toped with cheese. Why not just serve a wedge of cheese?

And then the presentation was awful, messy. He spooned the broccoli mess and the potato mess on the plate and put the meat on top. It all just ran and oozed together.One great white blob with burn specks.

I should have paid attention to your early reports and not watched it, just deleted this mess. Forgive me for doubting your reviews.

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    River19 RE: Janet Aug 26, 2008 04:21 AM

    What do you do on your TV show?

    I'm kidding of course, I guess if we don't like it, don't watch it. I found a few things throughout the couple episodes I saw that were slightly intresting, I agree that not all of it is something I wish to repeat in my kitchen however.

    1. drbelfer RE: Janet Aug 28, 2008 10:55 AM

      I have watched a few times and have found that while I do not mind the menu that is set and have little problem with the butter and cheese and health concerns that some may point out - I do not find him at all entertaining, enchanting or engaging.

      I think the FN picked someone to fill a niche with the hope that they could develop him into another "star" (someone like Guy F). Unfortunately and as I suspect they knew anyway, he missed the mark and they are only fulfilling the agreement that the NFNS gets their own show - at least for 1 season. Do you see the winners of season 1 or 3 still on - nope - they didnt pan out either. I suspect after the initial run of this show it will fade into history like the others. The reality game show draws viewers - that is what they are after.

      Also find that they are struggling for new things to put on to appeal to many. The network has been on for some time and it is hard to keep peoples interests.

      I still find it strange that they didnt go with the Indian lady who was on the show - she would have provided something new that is untapped on the network. Perhaps in the near future there will be an Indian cuisine type show.

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      1. re: drbelfer
        Ericandblueboy RE: drbelfer Aug 28, 2008 12:32 PM

        That Indian lady couldn't cook worth a sh*t. I'm also not entirely sure there is a big audience out there for Indian food.

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          Withnail42 RE: drbelfer Aug 29, 2008 12:53 PM

          If you wonder why they didn't hire Nipa the indian girl you obviously never saw her on the show. She was a spoiled little brat who wouldn't or couldn't cook anything she didn't want to. She was in short a nasty pice of work.

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            alkapal RE: Withnail42 Aug 29, 2008 12:55 PM

            nipa: "eeeeeuuuw, a fish!"

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              Withnail42 RE: alkapal Aug 29, 2008 01:52 PM

              Followed by a hail Marry toss, of an entire fish, into the trash.

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                James Cristinian RE: Withnail42 Aug 29, 2008 05:35 PM

                The thing I liked about Nipa is you never knew what stupid thing she would do next. It was like watching a train wreck. As far as Big Daddy, he drives me crazy calling food "bad boys" all the time, as in, "I'm going to turn these bad boys, steaks, over." I could just hear Bob Tuschman say he just said bad boys three times in two minutes.

            2. re: Withnail42
              drbelfer RE: Withnail42 Sep 2, 2008 08:32 AM

              No I watched and she was not the best person for the job. What I was trying to point out is that she brought something new to the network for type of cuisine her show would have been.

          2. dave_c RE: Janet Aug 28, 2008 12:37 PM

            I have the same feelings about Paula Deen.

            Heart attack waiting to happen with all of the butter and cream she tosses in her food. Also, she grosses me out when she licks spoons, runs her finger through the food for a taste and in one episode she slurped from a chocolate fountain.

            Another thing I've noticed about Paula, she seems to be really hamming up her Southern accent.

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              kristina3963 RE: dave_c Aug 29, 2008 04:01 PM

              I know, I usually like Paula but she is a little over the top sometimes. Especially with the accent. Her regular cooking show is decent. But I absolutely CANNOT STAND Paula's Party. She sickens me so much on that show! She is just so fake and "cutesy" it really is ridiculous.

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                alkapal RE: kristina3963 Aug 29, 2008 04:47 PM

                i totally blame fn for "paula's party's" excesses. she started her fn debut with a nice, low-key, down-home cooking show. fn tarts up everyone. i know she had a choice to continue, but let's be realistic. how many of us would say "no"? let us be honest here.

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                  puppymomma RE: alkapal Sep 1, 2008 06:00 AM

                  I liked Paula Deen for about a minute. Ever since then, I've despised her. She's way too over the top. Her food is enough to bring your weight to 400 pounds. I hate her accent - it's exaggerated and over the top too. I don't understand why she's so popular.


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                    alkapal RE: puppymomma Sep 1, 2008 06:01 AM

                    her first show was not excessive at all.

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                      NE_Elaine RE: alkapal Sep 3, 2008 09:36 AM

                      I have to agree with Alkapal here. When Paula's show first started, she featured down-home cooking and her accent was much more subtle. FN has morphed her into a giggling, y'all'ing, butter-swilling freak and then they morphed her sons into a couple of Ring-Ding-a lings. It was very sad to watch but I am sure that it works for them all the way to the bank.

                      The only hosts that seem to be immune to this morphing process so far are Ina Garten and Tyler Florence. Of course, I haven't seen a new Barefoot Contessa in a while and Tylers show is broadcast at the prime time of 9 AM ET on Sunday morning.

                      1. re: NE_Elaine
                        Davwud RE: NE_Elaine Sep 3, 2008 09:41 AM

                        Ultimately you have to remember that these people are doing this for a living. This not a PSA or something like that. If they say, we'll double your salary if you ham it up a bit, well, who wouldn't.

                        Perhaps Ina doesn't have it in her or just wouldn't do it. Tyler might be the same but I doubt he'd still be on if it wasn't for his looks.


                        1. re: Davwud
                          brendastarlet RE: Davwud Sep 3, 2008 01:32 PM

                          Ina seems to be very careful with her choices. As I remember reading, she only films twice a year (spring and fall) and only 13 episodes at a time. She doesn't participate very much in the group FN activities -- I think she was on a Christmas special, but by herself, not with the other chefs. And I've never seen Nigella except on her show.

                          Does anyone remember Natalie Dupree? She did a program on PBS that I just loved. She showed up as a guest judge on Throwdown and it reminded her how much I missed her.

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                            southernitalian RE: brendastarlet Sep 3, 2008 01:42 PM

                            I loved Natalie Dupree and never missed her show when I was a kid. She is such a Southern lady. I see her from time to time on FN. i think she came out with a cookbook not long ago.

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                              DiningDiva RE: brendastarlet Sep 3, 2008 01:45 PM

                              I remember Natalie Dupree. Hated the show, thought she was terribly pretentious. Maybe her show just didn't translate too well for CA <shrug>. It only ran for a few weeks on the PBS station(s) in the Bay Area

                            2. re: Davwud
                              goodhealthgourmet RE: Davwud Sep 7, 2008 06:09 PM

                              "Tyler might be the same but I doubt he'd still be on if it wasn't for his looks."
                              while i confess his ease on the eyes makes him even more enjoyable for some of us to watch, he's a good chef, and i've gotten some kick-ass recipes & ideas from Tyler's Ultimate.

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                                Davwud RE: goodhealthgourmet Sep 7, 2008 07:45 PM

                                Sure he is. But being a good chef has absolutely nothing to do with being on FTV any more.


                        2. re: puppymomma
                          gpwood RE: puppymomma Feb 27, 2009 07:59 PM

                          Because the food is good!

                    2. re: dave_c
                      Avalondaughter RE: dave_c Sep 9, 2008 10:26 AM

                      I think Paula Deen is a victim of the FN marketing machine.

                      Look at her early shows. I saw one just a couple of weeks ago. She made chicken. She washed her hands very thoroughly after handling it. She didn't use any more butter than anyone else.

                      I will say that everything about Paula Deen is over the top now, but I think that's because the FN execs were saying MORE MORE MORE. More butter. More "love". Sexier. Whatever.

                      Yes, Paula Deen has always used a lot of cream and butter, but so has Emeril Lagasse and the saintly Ina Garten and just about every other chef of fine cuisine out there. Sometimes I think there is a bit of snobbery involved in the slamming of Paula Deen. She's cooking a cuisine that's not considered upscale, so therefore it's bad and we're going to pick on her for using cream and butter. Once upon a time she made homemade food. She cooked outside of her comfort zone and tried other cuisines (I can remember one show where she made an Italian dish and had trouble pronouncing it so they did this cute little schtick with Mario Batali calling her up and trying to get her to say it correctly). This is a woman who owned a successful restaurant for years. She deserves some credit.

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                        goodhealthgourmet RE: Avalondaughter Sep 9, 2008 02:12 PM

                        re: Paula & the butter issue. yes, other chefs us a lot of it too. but as far as i know, she's the only one to ever DEEP FRY a stick of butter on her show...and yes, she ate it.

                        i give the woman a lot of credit - always have - for everything she's accomplished, and for conquering the obstacles & demons she's faced in her life...we all know she hasn't had it easy. but that deep-fried stick of butter was absurd, completely unnecessary, and just plain vile.

                        1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                          alkapal RE: goodhealthgourmet Sep 11, 2008 05:17 AM

                          and that little bit of showmanship we still talk about in wonder to this very day! :-)

                      2. re: dave_c
                        EWSflash RE: dave_c Sep 12, 2008 08:01 PM

                        I don't watch Paula Deen for the recipes- well maybe for the shock value, did you see the one where she made bread pudding by tearing up two dozen Krispy Kremes and covering them with butter and a can of fruit cocktail? Paula can realy cook, whether or not you like her choice of ingredients. She's entertaining and fun, and it's unfortunately turned into the Paula Monster. Good for her. Let her make a glob of money and live out her dotage comfortably. There sure are worse on FNW.

                        Big Daddy? He's sure not the worst they have. I'll have that show on over several others, I use TV as background noise and tune in or out depending on if it catches my interest). I'm waiting to see if he gets up to real show quality. Anybody here ever see the video of Mario Batali's screen test (maybe it was an outtake from the first show)? Boy, that'll give you some perspective, he was just horrible, believe it or not.

                        1. re: EWSflash
                          Avalondaughter RE: EWSflash Sep 15, 2008 12:58 PM

                          Paula Deen has taken a lot of criticism for that Krispy Kreme bread pudding recipe, but it's not even her own creation. It was sent to her by a viewer.

                      3. Mild Bill RE: Janet Aug 28, 2008 01:12 PM

                        "I'm gonna flip this bad-boy in the pan like that!
                        Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' bout!"

                        Lemmee put this bad-boy on this big plate like that!
                        Man! That's what I'm talkin' bout!"

                        "Watch me cut into this bad-boy like this--- MMM MMM!
                        THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout!"


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                          alkapal RE: Mild Bill Aug 29, 2008 03:14 AM

                          thanks, mild bill, for the executive summary. now i don't have to watch!

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                            cindy22 RE: Mild Bill Aug 29, 2008 05:26 AM

                            Did you catch the episode when he covered the pyrex dish of ribs with plastic wrap, then foil, and put it in the oven? He said it was his favorite trick. It was a trick to me alright, that the plastic wrap didn't melt during the baking process.

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                              alkapal RE: cindy22 Aug 29, 2008 05:32 AM

                              i've seen that trick from other cooks on tv, too. i always thought it strange, but apparently, it doesn't melt.

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                                sibeats RE: cindy22 Aug 30, 2008 07:39 AM

                                Putting plastic wrap under foil is something done in catering kitchens all the time, especially when reheating hotel pans filled with food. Sometimes there is a layer of parchment paper as well.

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                                  dave_c RE: cindy22 Sep 4, 2008 11:17 AM

                                  I'm surprised the FN chefs let that get by.
                                  Emeril, about 6 or 7 years ago, used that trick for ribs - wrap with plastic then foil.

                                  Emeril received many emails about the plastic wrap melting.

                                  However, the trick below, using parchment paper sounds like a great idea.
                                  Is that parchment paper then foil? Or is that parchment paper, plastic wrap then foil?

                                  I believe the plastic wrap prevents the foil from coming in direct contact with the food, especially when there's acidity involved.

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                                    sibeats RE: dave_c Sep 5, 2008 07:47 AM

                                    It's actually parchment, plastic wrap and foil. Parchment over the top of the food, plastic over that, foil over that. Trust me, years of working in a large catering operation, the plastic does not melt, with or without parchment.

                                2. re: Mild Bill
                                  EWSflash RE: Mild Bill Sep 12, 2008 08:09 PM

                                  When you're the noob on FNW you have to do what the hell they tell you to. He may get better, he may not. I have no dog in this fight, but he could actually end up being good if FN lets him give up the "jive daddy" thing. He sems to maybe have some comic timing- I laughed unexpectedly a couple of times. Mario he's not, but then, who is?

                                3. Phaedrus RE: Janet Sep 2, 2008 08:01 AM

                                  Maybe I am just too cynical. But first the Neelys, and then this Big Daddy show. Is the FN trying to answer to the charges that they are too lilly white? They also had Ingrid Hoffman as the sole hispanic show (not counting the long deceased Two Tamales). So when are we Asians going to get our own token racial show? I think we fall behind at least one more token hispanic show, a token northern scandinavian show, and a token native American show.

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                                    MaxCaviar RE: Phaedrus Sep 3, 2008 09:50 AM

                                    "when are we Asians going to get our own token racial show?"

                                    that's an easy one - - when Asian "community activists" threaten to shake down businesses . . .

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                                      Davwud RE: MaxCaviar Sep 3, 2008 01:11 PM

                                      I thought they've had a couple. Ming and Stephen Yan.


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                                        alkapal RE: Davwud Sep 4, 2008 03:54 AM

                                        martin yan and ming tsai are no tokens! they're great!

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                                          ipsedixit RE: alkapal Sep 4, 2008 09:40 AM

                                          Yeah, Martin Yan, and Ming Tsai, are great. Would be nice to see a FN show hosted by either of them.

                                          All the cooking shows on FN seem so repetitive. Do I really need ANOTHER person telling me how to roast a chicken? Or bake a pie? Or make pasta?

                                          [rolls eyes]

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                                            Davwud RE: ipsedixit Sep 4, 2008 11:08 AM

                                            Or do any one of those against 20 other competitors??


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                                    Goldendog RE: Janet Sep 2, 2008 08:22 AM

                                    I find his cooking to be interesting and creative. He has better knife skills than most FN chefs. He works in just the right amount of side stories and comments about his family. BUT, his idiotic insistence in referring to himself in the 3rd person is enough to get someone to pull out their hair. "Big daddy like his steaks cooked this way" or "Big daddy makes his sauce ahead of time" or "Big daddy uses only the freshest". ARGHHH

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                                      RBCal RE: Goldendog Sep 3, 2008 09:19 AM

                                      I don't watch the show but did watch TNFNS. I was surprised he won but preferred him over the other finalists. He's an unpolished amateur and as such more real than Flay or Alton. His food isn't healthy but neither is Neely's BBQ. Also, when I cook for myself I certainly am not worried about my plating technique. In some respects, his amateurishness is what makes him more charming. He does try a bit too hard and overacts for the camera though.

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                                        brendastarlet RE: RBCal Sep 7, 2008 02:49 PM

                                        I watched BDH for a little while this afternoon. He was making cheesesteak soup which IMO was not what I would do with an entire beef tenderloin, and I didn't make it through the episode. But I got to thinking: all of Aaron's food is essentially what I'd call guy food: meaty, hearty, food that guys adore. It's the kind of stuff you serve at tailgates or when a group of guys come over. Could FN repackage him in that direction? It's certainly not anything I'd make if my female friends dropped by -- unless we decided in advance that it was going to be a comfort food night. But I could see this working for Super Bowl fare.

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                                          goodhealthgourmet RE: brendastarlet Sep 7, 2008 06:14 PM

                                          isn't that pretty much what Guy Fieri's cooking show is? big food that's geared to the tailgater/frat boy demographic? i'm genuinely curious because i've never watched his cooking show, only DDD...

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                                            ipsedixit RE: goodhealthgourmet Sep 7, 2008 10:47 PM

                                            I think both Guy and Aaron generally target the same demographic but from different angles.

                                            Guy is a bit more fusion and haute-cuisine centric -- i.e., he'll make spring rolls and Thai pasta noodle salad.

                                            Aaron is more down home and 1960s -- i.e., basic pot roast, mac 'n cheese, big burgers and sandwiches etc.

                                            Guy makes the kind of food a metrosexual chef would make. Aaron makes the kind of food your grandmother would make.

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                                              Phaedrus RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2008 06:48 AM

                                              Guy is TGI Fridays/Applebees/Bennigans/Ruby Tuesdays, Aaron is Furrs/Luby's/Piccadilly's/Golden Corral.

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                                                Mild Bill RE: Phaedrus Sep 8, 2008 02:24 PM


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                                      anni RE: Janet Sep 9, 2008 02:07 PM

                                      I don't see any more shows scheduled for Big Daddy's House. Guy's new show is slated for that time slot starting next Sunday.

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                                        Jambie RE: anni Sep 12, 2008 03:52 PM

                                        He has been renewed for 13 more episodes starting in January.

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                                          drbelfer RE: Jambie Sep 12, 2008 05:28 PM

                                          the network is starved to but something new on - all you tend to see is endless repeats.

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                                        Erlinda RE: Janet Sep 12, 2008 08:49 PM

                                        I love Aaron's smile, and his style doesn't offend me at all. He's just down-homey and I think he cooks the way a lot of people cook when no one is looking. Ever try to make something Ina Garten made? I found myself talking to the wall, saying "It's really good!" as if that would affect the final result. When trying to make a 30 minute meal, I tried acting like Rachel Ray, "Yum-Oh!" "Let me pour in some EVOO!" Heck, I almost renamed my dog "Isaboo" but I thought she would bite me - and the meal still took over 30 minutes to make - with absolutely no commercial breaks!

                                        Aaron's food is comfort food. Would I make what he makes every day? Absolutely not! But sometimes, you just have to break all the rules - pour on the butter, melt the Velveeta, toss the macaroni salad with your bare (washed) hands, and let 'er rip!

                                        I DO wish he'd stop referring to himself in the third person. "Aaron's House" or "Aaron's Comfort Food" would be great - and you'd know exactly what you are getting. He is just fine!

                                        Now, I'll tell you who really annoys me: Sandra Lee. I had to stop watching because I got so sick of hearing her say "Malk" instead of "Milk" and "Into" when a simple "In" would do. Surely her stuff isn't healthy. And those drinks!

                                        (BTW, once I didn't realize that some frozen bread was wrapped in plastic and covered in foil. I put the foil-wrapped bread in the oven. Heated it at a higher temperature than suggested because I was in a hurry. The plastic DID NOT melt!)

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                                        1. re: Erlinda
                                          alkapal RE: Erlinda Sep 14, 2008 06:43 AM

                                          "Ever try to make something Ina Garten made? I found myself talking to the wall, saying "It's really good!" as if that would affect the final result. When trying to make a 30 minute meal, I tried acting like Rachel Ray, "Yum-Oh!" "Let me pour in some EVOO!" Heck, I almost renamed my dog "Isaboo" but I thought she would bite me...."

                                          erlinda, you are too funny! maybe some of the talented hounds (like you on this board) could do a "mystery science theatre" type of gig on food network! would be great fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M4_XZ...

                                          ooooooooorrrrrr, let's get christopher walken a cooking show on food network: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J06BU6...

                                          ooooorrrrrr, maybe not! http://wwff.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/...

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                                          Bakersfield Hound RE: Janet Sep 13, 2008 08:55 PM

                                          I can't beleive that I just read his show has been extended for 13 more starting in January 2009. There is no Food God.

                                          1. duckdown RE: Janet Sep 14, 2008 08:53 AM

                                            The worst is actually "Matt Dunnigan's Road grill" or something like this, its a total football bafoon trying to cook food, luckily I think it only airs on Food Network Canada

                                            1. Marinekn123 RE: Janet Sep 14, 2008 12:17 PM

                                              Well I guess that is what makes the FN so popular, People of all different backgrounds, ethics and income levels watch this show daily. So how can everyone be pleased with every show or chef. Everyone don't like 30 gloves of garlic or EVOO.

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                                                aplusone RE: Janet Oct 26, 2012 07:13 AM

                                                The chef, Aaron McCargo on Big Daddy's House appears to me to be VERY unsanitary in the kitchen. I am surprised none of the show producers have checked him on that. EVERY episode I've happened to stumble across, I quickly see something. Like for example, licking off a spoon and instead of putting it in the sink like most other Food Network chefs would do, he puts it down on the prep surface and continues prepping near and around it; tasting something with his bare hands all the time (hand to mouth and juicy) then using unwashed hands in the same seconds to continue chopping parsley, etc, not even wiping hands on a towel. His habits and looks are just careless and sloppy in the kitchen in my opinion. I can't even watch an episode through.

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                                                  Shrinkrap RE: aplusone Oct 27, 2012 10:51 PM

                                                  Wow! That was anticlimactic. I'm reading this four year old thread, realizing some thought he wouldn't last....waiting for a big ending.....

                                                2. iL Divo RE: Janet Oct 29, 2012 10:11 PM

                                                  "Big Daddy's House, why did we watch?"

                                                  I didn't.

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