HOME > Chowhound > Food Media & News >

Rocco DiSpirito on Dancing with the Stars

r
rockycat Aug 25, 2008 05:28 AM

What's the next step up in his rehabilitation? Working the line at a hotel brunch?

  1. Click to Upload a photo (10 MB limit)
Delete
  1. k
    KTinNYC RE: rockycat Aug 25, 2008 05:59 AM

    Rocco does not need to be rehabilitated. He stopped being a chef years ago with the apparent goal of becoming a celebrity and it appears he has succeeded. By being on Dancing with the Stars his name will be known by more people than ever.

    16 Replies
    1. re: KTinNYC
      Phaedrus RE: KTinNYC Aug 25, 2008 06:04 AM

      So is this the goal? Kind of like the culinary equivalent of the Gabor sisters? Going from the IT guy in the culinary world to "Why the hell is this guy famous?"

      1. re: Phaedrus
        k
        KTinNYC RE: Phaedrus Aug 25, 2008 06:11 AM

        I can only guess but I think Rocco realized that he could make more money with a lot less work by becoming a "personality" rather than being a chef. The hours are a lot better. I would not be surprised at all if Rocco has Rachel Ray as a model of what he wants to become.

        1. re: KTinNYC
          d
          DougRisk RE: KTinNYC Aug 25, 2008 06:46 AM

          KT, I think that you are right on about this. Chefs have become a hot item of late, but I think that few people realize how few of them make a decent living.

          Most chefs, even the ones that are trained and work for well known places in NYC, do not make much money. And they work very long and hard hours. Considering how many nowadays go to culinary school, and get themselves in debt, well, that just adds to it.

          And, if you can land that TV gig, it can be a sweet deal. Bobby Flay was once asked by Dorothy Hamilton how he was able to make all of the different TV shows he does AND run the restaurants. He said that he was able to make ALL of the episodes for ALL of the shows in only a few weeks. If we can assume that he makes as much money from those shows (that is, also, the "free" publicity that it brings to him, and by extension, his restaurants and books) as he does from his restaurants, then, the ROI is pretty amazing.

          1. re: DougRisk
            Phaedrus RE: DougRisk Aug 25, 2008 07:40 AM

            The difference is that Flay still owns restaurants and Rocco does not.

            I have no problems with chefs trying to make a living. Even with guys like Emeril, I think he is still as passionate about his chosen profession.

            I don't get the same vibe from Rocco, I think if he could turn his back on his culinary past completely he would, in a heartbeat. Which brings us back to the question: what does Rocco bring to the party without his culinary genius?

            1. re: Phaedrus
              Justpaula RE: Phaedrus Aug 25, 2008 08:37 AM

              An awful lot of "celebrities" these days do not bring anything at all to the party. This should not come as a surprise to anyone. I am not a fan of Rocco's but who can fault a guy for giving up the culinary genius (which failed him), and riding the fame-and-money train along with the Kim Kardashian's of the world? He has made a choice. He probably will never be taken seriously in the culinary world again, but I am sure he knows that. And does not care. Like gloriousgood said below - everyone is entitled to a career change.

              1. re: Justpaula
                Phaedrus RE: Justpaula Aug 25, 2008 08:43 AM

                So what you are saying is that Rocco is about nothing. Kind of like the Seinfeld show.

                1. re: Justpaula
                  k
                  KTinNYC RE: Justpaula Aug 25, 2008 08:53 AM

                  His genius did not fail him. He turned his back on it that is what disappoints many people most. He could be taken seriously if he chose that path. I would bet he could find many financial backers if he chose to cook seriously once again but I doubt that will ever happen.

                  1. re: Justpaula
                    LindaWhit RE: Justpaula Aug 25, 2008 10:45 AM

                    As KT said - he turned his back on the culinary world, and that lost ongoing potential is what bothers people who love great food the most.

                    The ONLY reason I can see he might be doing DWTS is to promote that TV show he was supposedly working on back when he was judging on Top Chef....did that ever come to fruition? But if all he's doing is doing the Kardashian "reality star road trip" on whatever reality show he can be on, he becomes even more of a laughingstock in the culinary world...and should he ever wish to get back into the kitchen, it might bite him in the ass.

                    As you said - he probably doesn't care. But I cannot think of a greater crash of ongoing potential than what he's (not) done in the last few years.

                    1. re: LindaWhit
                      goodhealthgourmet RE: LindaWhit Aug 27, 2008 02:11 PM

                      i'm one of those people who desperately wishes he was back in the kitchen. his work at Union Pacific was *brilliant.*

                      1. re: LindaWhit
                        h
                        HarryK RE: LindaWhit Aug 31, 2008 06:19 AM

                        That is funny, LindaWhit, that you compared Rocoo to the Kardashians because I was thinking the exact same thing.

                        Watching "The Soup" the other night, Joel McHale was saying how they couldn't admit (joke) Kim Kardasian to the hospital when she stepped on glass because she left the occupation line of her admittance form empty.

                        ... And that made me think of Rocco here. How many people are famous for no reason and with "job" other than being famous? Paris Hilton. The chick who's doing diet food commercials because she was on Survivor five years ago or something. And they all get reality shows.

                        Rocco is the first from the culinary world but otherwise just another character in a long line of "ain't got no job 'cept being famous is my job" people who for some reason people watch and (even here) talk about.

              2. re: Phaedrus
                g
                gloriousfood RE: Phaedrus Aug 25, 2008 06:57 AM

                Everyone is entitled to a career change...why not Rocco? As KTin pointed out, he stopped being a chef many moons ago, so this really should not be a shocker to anyone.

                Me, I'm just wating for the Mario Batali movie to hit the big screen.

                1. re: gloriousfood
                  h
                  HillJ RE: gloriousfood Aug 25, 2008 09:56 AM

                  <<Me, I'm just wating for the Mario Batali movie to hit the big screen.>>

                  In Spain with a famous young movie star for PBS..perhaps the big screen IS next!

                  1. re: gloriousfood
                    c
                    Claudette RE: gloriousfood Aug 25, 2008 12:41 PM

                    Or Mario on Dancing with the Stars...in clogs!

                    1. re: Claudette
                      Phaedrus RE: Claudette Aug 25, 2008 01:13 PM

                      Claudette,

                      That was the first thing I thought of when I read it. I thought I was being an idiot. So, thanks for saying it first and Welcome to my nightmare.

                      1. re: Claudette
                        m
                        moh RE: Claudette Aug 26, 2008 09:01 AM

                        You know, if they will take Warren Sapp (really big football player) on Dancing with the Stars, then I'm sure they won't say no to Mario. They are about the same body shape.

                    2. re: Phaedrus
                      Beach Chick RE: Phaedrus Aug 25, 2008 08:47 AM

                      "Kind of like the culinary equivalent of the Gabor sisters?"
                      That's funny Phaedrus!

                      Will there be a spot for his Mom to take over when his feet hurt? ; )

                  2. DiningDiva RE: rockycat Aug 25, 2008 11:23 AM

                    So maybe he really can dance. What happens if he wins.........

                    1. Firegoat RE: rockycat Aug 25, 2008 11:25 AM

                      Now I'm tempted to start a thread.... which cheflebrity would you be most horrified to see Dancing on the Stars.......

                      9 Replies
                      1. re: Firegoat
                        southernitalian RE: Firegoat Aug 25, 2008 11:57 AM

                        Definitely Mario.

                        1. re: southernitalian
                          DiningDiva RE: southernitalian Aug 25, 2008 01:12 PM

                          O, I don't know, I don't think I'd be to thrilled to watch Paula Deen groping her dance partner.

                          1. re: DiningDiva
                            JalamaMama RE: DiningDiva Aug 25, 2008 02:36 PM

                            The one and only, Galloping Gourmet!!!!!

                            James Beard might make a great DWTS's contestant, no? I'd do any dance Jamie Oliver asked of me.....

                            Mario? Well, for one thing, he is too sweaty to dance with, and I don't think he'd be able to get away with the (cute) funny faces he makes- next time you see him, watch when he turns food over in a saute pan!!

                            1. re: JalamaMama
                              Firegoat RE: JalamaMama Aug 26, 2008 04:46 AM

                              Mario would be interesting for the humor value.
                              But I'd have to say my nightmare.... but what i would tune in to watch... would be Rachael Ray. I wonder if she can dance and keep her hands still......

                            2. re: DiningDiva
                              goodhealthgourmet RE: DiningDiva Aug 27, 2008 02:27 PM

                              LOL! thanks for the laugh, DD...although it does inspire a pretty disturbing visual :)

                              1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                                Phaedrus RE: goodhealthgourmet Aug 27, 2008 04:38 PM

                                Yeah, lets blind the entire Food TV audience.

                                1. re: Phaedrus
                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: Phaedrus Aug 27, 2008 05:48 PM

                                  Paula Deen dirty dancing with her sons..

                                  gack!

                                  seriously, though, i must confess that in addition to having been blown away by his culinary talents, i've always thought Rocco was pretty easy on the eyes. i've never seen DWTS, but i might actually tune in to watch him...

                                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                                    DiningDiva RE: goodhealthgourmet Aug 27, 2008 07:12 PM

                                    You've never seen Dancing with the Stars?!?!?? Oh, you must tune in. It is delicious fun and the dancing gets better week by week. It is a bonafide hoot, in part, because it doesn't take itself too seriously. Most of the stars are really awful the first few weeks, but there are always some that are surprisingly good...like Emmit Smith or (oh my god was he sexy last season) Jason Taylor. You've got to have true self confidence or an utterly secure ego in order to go on national TV in front of millions of people and risk making a complete fool and a** out of yourself. Trust me, if Rocco gets too full of himself Bruno or Len (2 of the 3 judges) will have few well placed comments for him.

                                    Rocco's partner is Karina Smirnoff who is very strong willed and she rarely gets stuck with a real dud for a partner in these things. They maybe vying for top diva billing in this duo.

                                    1. re: DiningDiva
                                      goodhealthgourmet RE: DiningDiva Aug 27, 2008 07:35 PM

                                      Jason Taylor was the one reason i considered watching last season :) but i think it must have aired at the same time as something else i was into. anyway, i'm on a dance kick now since i got hooked on "So You Think You Can Dance" a couple of months ago...those kids were amazing.

                                      i hope Rocco has some rhythm. few things make me more uncomfortable than watching someone who can't hold a beat try to dance - i get so embarrassed for them. plus, he's already taken enough heat for the disaster that was "The Restaurant."

                        2. notmartha RE: rockycat Aug 25, 2008 08:11 PM

                          I don't understand all the negative posts about Rocco DiSpirito. I am not a fan, but one shouldn't be forever stuck doing the same thing just because one does it well.

                          I for one is happy that DWTS is branching out besides the actor/ess, comedian, singers, athletes, etc. So now celebrity chefs are mainstream enough.

                          27 Replies
                          1. re: notmartha
                            Phaedrus RE: notmartha Aug 25, 2008 08:21 PM

                            >>I don't understand all the negative posts about Rocco DiSpirito. I am not a fan, but one shouldn't be forever stuck doing the same thing just because one does it well.<<

                            You are making two assumptions that are wrong.

                            1) That being a chef is a dead end job, that there is no room to grow. There are plenty of counter examples of that.

                            2) That Rocco had reached THE pinnacle of his craft. He may have reached what he feels like is HIS pinnacle, but he wasn't close to reach THE pinnacle.

                            I think everyone who are blasting him, myself included, is that he is a story of an unfulfilled early promise.

                            1. re: Phaedrus
                              notmartha RE: Phaedrus Aug 25, 2008 08:32 PM

                              No, what I am saying is that just because he's good at cooking doesn't mean he should keep on honing his craft and be the best chef possible, not if he is not really interested in it.

                              I think there's a thing called free will, and he's entitled to pursue what his interests are, regardless of whether he's good or bad at the new venture.

                              Just reminds me of all the hoopla, disappointment and confusion when Michael Jordan decided to quit basketball and pursue his dream of playing baseball.

                              It takes courage to pursue something you don't do well, and give up something you are very good at. I just don't understand all the ridicule. It's not as if there are not many, many more promising chefs out there.

                              Also, growing in the restaurant business inevitable seems to lead to opening more and more restaurants, and at that point I doubt the chef really cooks anyway. It's really a management position at that point. Not everyone wants to be a manager with all the dealings with HR, logistics, etc.

                              1. re: notmartha
                                Phaedrus RE: notmartha Aug 26, 2008 05:18 AM

                                So his dream was to be a reality show faux celeb? What kind of courage or skills does it take to be Paris Hilton?

                                Opening more and more restaurants does NOT mean inevitably opening more restaurants. Keller did finally start opening satellite restaurants when he could have done it many years ago. It is the trend, it is the money making path, but as you yourself said, there is such a thing as free will and he could have resisted the temptation. And Rocco wasn't even a success in the restaurant biz. His first foray was well documented on "The Restaurant" and it was a trainwreck. So he hadn't even succeeded in that if his heart was init.

                                Most of the people in the chef business are obsessive to a fault. They are all a little obsessive. Perhaps it is a tribute to Rocco's mental health that he isn't so obsessed. But it is sad to see someone so gifted to walk away from something that he is brilliant at but isn't passionate about anymore.

                                1. re: Phaedrus
                                  LindaWhit RE: Phaedrus Aug 26, 2008 05:52 AM

                                  Well, Rocco *was* initially successful as a chef (Union Pacific), but not in owning his own restaurant and then branching out. And I think that is what most people are disappointed in - he's walked away from what could have been a great career in the culinary world, only to become a reality show guest judge.

                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                    c
                                    chazzer RE: LindaWhit Aug 26, 2008 07:41 AM

                                    I think Rocco was taken by his quick celebrity status and thought that the world was open to him and he could do no wrong. His "Restaurant" relied on his celebrity and not his cooking. As guests were served cold raw food he was busy posing for pictures. He soon learned that his celebrity could not overcome the bad food and service.

                                    DWTS is his attempt to recapture that celebrity, look at who does this show, many, but not all, are former celebrities who have disappeared from public view, or ones who want to change their direction if life.

                                    In may ways this is Rocco's attempt to rehabilitate himself.

                                    1. re: chazzer
                                      LindaWhit RE: chazzer Aug 26, 2008 08:19 AM

                                      I watched the trainwreck called "The Restaurant." I'm aware he was quite taken with himself...couldn't miss that! LOL

                                      But shilling frozen dreck for Buitoni - or whoever it was - and dancing on DWTS doesn't seem the way to "rehabilitate" himself, at least IMO. But if he wants to be a celebrity for celebrity's sake vs. getting back on the chefwagon, so be it. I still see it as a fall from grace that will be ever more difficult to recover from.

                                      Will I watch DWTS? Yeah - I'm a sucker for that show. Like the little girl with the curl - when the dancing is good, it's very, very good. When it's bad, it's horrid. :-)

                                      1. re: LindaWhit
                                        Phaedrus RE: LindaWhit Aug 26, 2008 08:28 AM

                                        At least he didn't end up living in the same house with Flava-Flav, Jose Canseco, and one of the Two Coreys.

                                        1. re: Phaedrus
                                          LindaWhit RE: Phaedrus Aug 26, 2008 08:36 AM

                                          Not yet. ;-)

                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                            h
                                            HarryK RE: LindaWhit Aug 31, 2008 06:24 AM

                                            LMAO!!!

                                            Agred. It's only a matter of time.

                                            I just found out the other night there's a reality show on -- I swear this is true -- and I wish it wasn't -- with the actress who played Marsha Brady, Carrie Wilson and Bobby Brown running an inn in the country together. *sigh*

                                  2. re: Phaedrus
                                    notmartha RE: Phaedrus Aug 26, 2008 07:02 PM

                                    DWTS seems to be a good medium in getting more positive exposure, and if he can survive at least half way through the show and show people that he can dance, I don't see why that's bad. I don't think the TV viewers think that Apolo Ono, Kristi Yamaguchi, Emmett Smith, and Jason Taylor as losers for being on the show.

                                    Dancing takes skills - agility and coordination, so it will be interesting to see whether a chef who should be somewhat fit, coordinated and can multi-task will do well. The only thing is I am not sure I want to see him with very skimpy outfits.

                                    1. re: notmartha
                                      LindaWhit RE: notmartha Aug 26, 2008 07:24 PM

                                      However, Apolo Ohno, Kristi Yamaguchi, Emmitt Smith and Jason Taylor all didn't "sell out" their chosen profession as Rocco did. They all went in there as champion athletes in their own right with recognized, long-standing and ongoing talent in their fields.

                                      1. re: LindaWhit
                                        notmartha RE: LindaWhit Aug 26, 2008 07:47 PM

                                        I don't see how not continuing with cooking is 'selling out their profession'. I didn't mention it, but past winners also include TV stars, singer and a race car driver. So isn't DiSpirito a recognized talent in cooking?

                                        It'll be neat if he can actually dance. For all we know, maybe he wants to participate because he wants to be a dancer. I guess we all jump to the conclusion that he wants more fame and exposure, and that's why he participated.

                                        I saw some of his endorsement as somewhat questionable, but even Mr. Puck has a line of TV dinners and soups.

                                        Anyway, I don't have a dog in this fight, but it just seems odd, and oddly parental. It's kind of how some parents force their kids down a certain career path - because they are good at it.

                                    2. re: Phaedrus
                                      l
                                      LabRat RE: Phaedrus Aug 27, 2008 06:50 AM

                                      I was taking a hospitality management course when "The Restaurant" was airing. Our instructor would show us a 10-15 minute clip of the show which aired that week with our assignment being to write down everything we thought Rocco was doing wrong. We would then have to pick an example and explain why it showed poor management style. There were usually so many examples of bad management in any 10-15 minute clip of that show that we could fill up two hours of classtime discussing them.

                                      1. re: LabRat
                                        h
                                        HillJ RE: LabRat Aug 27, 2008 07:03 AM

                                        wow...and you learned about hospitality by picking apart a paid professional? ask for a course refund!

                                        1. re: HillJ
                                          l
                                          LabRat RE: HillJ Aug 27, 2008 11:29 AM

                                          Actually we were taught about proper management techniques first, then our instructor quizzed us on what we learned by having us pick apart a paid (but clearly inept) professional. It was a very effective teaching technique. Request for refund rejected.

                                          1. re: LabRat
                                            h
                                            HillJ RE: LabRat Aug 27, 2008 01:33 PM

                                            Teachers can teach effective techniques without having to bash a professional and not all of us believe Roco deserves nit-picking. Reconsider the refund.

                                            1. re: HillJ
                                              l
                                              LabRat RE: HillJ Aug 27, 2008 03:33 PM

                                              Refund reconsidered and re-rejected. I learned quite a bit in that course and was able to translate what I learned in to career advancement at a pace far exceeding expectations. The best way to learn is by making mistakes and learning from them. The next best way is to watch others make mistakes and learn. The mistakes Rocco chose to broadcast to the world were a treasure trove of learning.

                                              1. re: LabRat
                                                h
                                                HillJ RE: LabRat Aug 27, 2008 03:42 PM

                                                Interesting, bully pulpits. You advanced at a pace far exceeding your expectations but you have insight critquing the choices of a fellow professional? Interesting perspective on learning. With all due respect, all I see is irony. Best of luck, LabRat!

                                                1. re: HillJ
                                                  c
                                                  chazzer RE: HillJ Aug 28, 2008 01:27 PM

                                                  Doing case studies is SOP in B schools, are you objecting to this proven method of education of are you objecting to someone picking on poor Rocco.

                                                  1. re: chazzer
                                                    h
                                                    HillJ RE: chazzer Aug 28, 2008 01:56 PM

                                                    Neither. I asked LabRat a question. LabRat's reply (which I appreciated) rang rather ironic for me. Hardly earth shattering.

                                2. re: notmartha
                                  Beach Chick RE: notmartha Aug 25, 2008 08:43 PM

                                  I was such a HUGE fan of Rocco's when his first TV show started but his narcissistic ways did not bode well for him..it was magnified being in front of a camera and I think that is where most of us are turned off by him..from a chick's point of view..he is hot and we need more good looking men on TV but you realize that a pretty face is just that.
                                  Like, I had reiterated from a previous post that I had a chance to meet him in NYC last year after we both taped a show but I declined..should of gone to goof on him.
                                  I do wish him well on DWTS..

                                  1. re: Beach Chick
                                    notmartha RE: Beach Chick Aug 25, 2008 08:51 PM

                                    At least if it's his TV persona that offends people I can understand. I don't catch enough of the first TV show to form any type of impression, good or bad. Just seems most comments here are negative because he quit cooking.

                                    There's another thread on the board on Ming Tsai, who apparently did the opposite. A degree in Mechanical Eng from Yale with a father a professor in Stanford, and ended up cooking/owning a restaurant. Ming maybe an interesting candidate for DWTS.

                                    Anyway, it won't be the first time that a pretty face does well in the entertainment media.

                                    1. re: notmartha
                                      g
                                      gloriousfood RE: notmartha Aug 26, 2008 06:32 AM

                                      "Ming maybe an interesting candidate for DWTS."

                                      Mmm, I would love that! It would finally make me watch the show for the first time ever. Also, Jacques Pepin and Wolfgang Puck. For the women, bring on Sara Moulton, who seems like she would be a good sport.

                                      1. re: gloriousfood
                                        c
                                        chazzer RE: gloriousfood Aug 26, 2008 07:43 AM

                                        I vote for Wolfgang Puck, that would be so fun.

                                        1. re: chazzer
                                          b
                                          brendastarlet RE: chazzer Aug 27, 2008 03:26 AM

                                          I second Jacques Pepin. His smile alone would get my vote. "Happy Dancing!"

                                          1. re: brendastarlet
                                            yamalam RE: brendastarlet Sep 23, 2008 02:09 PM

                                            I vote for, sigh, Eric Ripert. You know he can dance.

                                            1. re: yamalam
                                              g
                                              gloriousfood RE: yamalam Sep 23, 2008 03:00 PM

                                              Eric Ripert...mmm...yes. And I'll raise you Ming Tsai while we're at it!

                                              Perhaps they should do a show called "Dancing with the Chefs."

                                3. g
                                  gutreactions RE: rockycat Aug 26, 2008 07:01 AM

                                  Rocco does have great culinary talent...just look at how he rocked us early on at Union Pacific...It's a loss to the field but if he chooses a different career path and go for the bucks, that's certainly his choice.
                                  I wouldn't mind seeing him dance with George Hamilton though...

                                  1 Reply
                                  1. re: gutreactions
                                    b
                                    brendastarlet RE: gutreactions Aug 27, 2008 03:25 AM

                                    Rocco is what I'd call "stunt casting." The producers will keep him on the show long enough for him to cook for the other contestants, and to figure out a way for Wolfgang Puck to make an appearance. He'll be voted off around week four.

                                  2. Firegoat RE: rockycat Aug 27, 2008 05:22 AM

                                    The early reports from DWTS show insiders are not favorable for the cheflebrity.

                                    Another ''big diva'' was ''The Restaurant'' reality star, New York eatery owner and James Beard Award-winning chef Rocco DiSpirito. ''Such an ego ... a real know-it-all,'' said my show source. ''I'll be surprised if he lasts beyond the first elimination.''

                                    http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment...

                                    5 Replies
                                    1. re: Firegoat
                                      LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Aug 27, 2008 07:02 AM

                                      Interesting. Who's gonna out-diva - Kardashian or Rocco? ;-)

                                      1. re: LindaWhit
                                        Firegoat RE: LindaWhit Aug 27, 2008 07:07 AM

                                        If they both go in the first double elimination --- I think it is safe to say that the votes were rigged and the staff has just had enough of both of them :)

                                        1. re: Firegoat
                                          LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Aug 27, 2008 07:16 AM

                                          I had forgotten I read about the double elims. Funny if they both did go!

                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                            Firegoat RE: LindaWhit Aug 27, 2008 08:43 AM

                                            lol if they do, I guess we can call "shananigans!" but..... bless the staff's heart... I don't think anyone would.

                                          2. re: Firegoat
                                            notmartha RE: Firegoat Aug 27, 2008 08:12 PM

                                            My bet is on Leachman. I don't know if she has any fan base, and if the first dance is a latin dance it may be difficult. If it's not my hat's to her.

                                            Anyway, I thought 50% of the score is based on audience voting. Not that DiSpirito should have that big of a fan base.

                                      2. Chew on That RE: rockycat Aug 29, 2008 01:18 PM

                                        I didn't even know that show was back on and I would LOVE to see Rocco on it!

                                        1. TrishUntrapped RE: rockycat Aug 31, 2008 10:00 AM

                                          Just my two cents:

                                          Before "The Restaurant" I was absolutely a fan of the up and coming DiSpirito who was making a big name for himself at Union Pacific. He was a grad of my alma mater (Boston Univ.) so I was pulling for him.

                                          In a million years I never expected he would be the bad guy on that show. It wasn't that he just mismanaged a restaurant, it was how he behaved and treated others. The world revolved around him and his ego...so he didn't care if he paid his staff on a timely basis, or reneging on an on-air promise to give his bartender a Vespa... as long as Rocco got face time....

                                          During the show's run, Tony Bourdain said Rocco was single-handedly destroying "celebrity chefs."

                                          When the show ended Rocco bragged he would be back right away with a new show, probably a talk show. When that didn't materialize, he took the reins of a weekday food show on WOR radio in New York. And it was bad. The show, again, ended up revolving around him. The staff at the station must have had their fill of his antics because they stole his wine and his headphones....he left shortly thereafter.

                                          One might think he would reassess after failing in both tv and radio, but Rocco was bitten by the "celebrity" bug and couldn't shake it.

                                          Focusing even more on himself, he decided to become a traithlete, while continuing to hawk his cookware, books, and frozen pasta meals, and judge a cooking show.

                                          While my respect for Rocco is non-existent, I hate to say it, but he is still entertaining in a train wreck sort of way. Like a class clown... you roll your eyes at him, but you still like to watch him take a pratfall.

                                          Sigh...I'll probably watch DWTS... if for no other reason than to write the next chapter of the Roccography.

                                          1. Firegoat RE: rockycat Sep 23, 2008 03:22 AM

                                            Watched the premiere of this last night. I was pleasantly surprised with Rocco, after reading some of the information which indicated he was a pain in the butt prima donna behind the scenes. His prerecorded bits weren't obnoxious. He actually did learn his dance and cleaned up beautifully in a tux. I predict he won't be one of the two to go home this week.

                                            15 Replies
                                            1. re: Firegoat
                                              LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Sep 23, 2008 07:00 AM

                                              I missed his dancing as I flipped over to Heroes for their season premiere. Was wondering how he did. I did see him getting his feedback from the judges...he seems to have gained back a little bit of the weight he lost when he was "training" for a marathon or whatever it was. He looks better now, IMO.

                                              1. re: Firegoat
                                                DiningDiva RE: Firegoat Sep 23, 2008 09:00 AM

                                                He did clean up pretty well, but his dancing was pretty awful compared to almost everyone else. I think he will be one of the 2 celebs to get eliminated this week. Maybe the fox trot just wasn't his thing.

                                                1. re: DiningDiva
                                                  Phaedrus RE: DiningDiva Sep 23, 2008 09:43 AM

                                                  Uh, I didn't see Rocco, but he's goit to be better than the comedian with the eye injury. OY!

                                                  1. re: Phaedrus
                                                    DiningDiva RE: Phaedrus Sep 23, 2008 09:46 AM

                                                    He was, but not by much :-D

                                                    1. re: DiningDiva
                                                      Firegoat RE: DiningDiva Sep 23, 2008 09:54 AM

                                                      oh he was quite a bit better than Jeff..... that was horrible. And massive amounts better than Cloris. He has at least another week in him.

                                                      1. re: Firegoat
                                                        DiningDiva RE: Firegoat Sep 23, 2008 02:54 PM

                                                        Cloris was pretty bad :-) but like Master P, Billy Ray Cyrus and a couple of others with big fan bases, she'll be around for more weeks than is really necessary. Rocco should survive to dance tonight if his fan base is bigger than Jeff's. Unless his mambo is really great, or someone elses quick step is really bad, I think it's debatable if he'll survive Wednesday night's elimination

                                                        1. re: DiningDiva
                                                          Firegoat RE: DiningDiva Sep 23, 2008 07:38 PM

                                                          Like a bad car wreck, I had to watch again tonight. The mambo was a definite improvement for him. He might stick around....

                                                          1. re: Firegoat
                                                            DiningDiva RE: Firegoat Sep 23, 2008 10:39 PM

                                                            My god, he can mambo!! who knew he could shake his hips like that. Have to say he was actually very good.

                                                            1. re: Firegoat
                                                              LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Sep 24, 2008 06:18 AM

                                                              Agreed - not too shabby! I don't think he's out this week. Cloris Leachman could go and I wouldn't mind. Her schtick has already gotten old.

                                                              1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                Phaedrus RE: LindaWhit Sep 24, 2008 07:03 AM

                                                                You don't like Frau Bruher?

                                                                1. re: Phaedrus
                                                                  Firegoat RE: Phaedrus Sep 24, 2008 08:08 AM

                                                                  I think Kim of the large r ump roasts and Cloris will go down before Rocco.... and if he improves on this pace, who knows.....

                                                                  1. re: Phaedrus
                                                                    LindaWhit RE: Phaedrus Sep 24, 2008 10:01 AM

                                                                    I liked her as the servant of Dr. Froaderick Fronkensteen, but at this point, Frau Blücher looks worse than the monster and should be voted off the island.

                                                                    "I am Frau Blücher." [horses whinny]

                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                      Firegoat RE: LindaWhit Sep 24, 2008 10:03 AM

                                                                      LOL.... please vote her costume selection person off the island first. They did her absolutely not favors. She can cut an elegant figure... but not squeezed into a sausage casing with her cleavage up to her neck.

                                                                      1. re: Firegoat
                                                                        LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Sep 24, 2008 11:04 AM

                                                                        Yeah, but it's her cleavage that's getting Len all in a tizzy. ;-) But yes - the costumes aren't doing her any favors.

                                                                        You gotta give her credit for wearing down the producers to get on the show, tho - she's tried several times!

                                                      2. re: DiningDiva
                                                        Chew on That RE: DiningDiva Sep 24, 2008 10:32 AM

                                                        I agree, it seemed like he would be one of the first to go. I don't think he'll last very long but at least another week or two.

                                                    2. g
                                                      gutreactions RE: rockycat Sep 24, 2008 10:12 AM

                                                      Just wondering...any good recipes coming out of this topic?

                                                      1 Reply
                                                      1. re: gutreactions
                                                        LindaWhit RE: gutreactions Sep 24, 2008 11:05 AM

                                                        Those are posted on the Home Cooking board. :-)

                                                      2. dave_c RE: rockycat Sep 24, 2008 11:20 AM

                                                        While flipping channels last night, Rocco was on Biggest Losers - Families.

                                                        He was helping the contestants cook healthy meals... I flipped channels after a few so missed the rest of the segment.

                                                        1 Reply
                                                        1. re: dave_c
                                                          yamalam RE: dave_c Sep 26, 2008 03:26 PM

                                                          It was - surprise - lame. He handed out recipes like Splenda Fruit Salad and Ziploc Steamed Mussels. The thing that confuses me (as to why he's such a media whore) is that he's not even super dynamic, and doesn't seem to like people, or be good at talking to people. Why would a producer pick him - other than being somewhat good-looking, he has the personality of a Bertloli's Frozen Lima Bean.

                                                        2. Firegoat RE: rockycat Oct 3, 2008 11:07 AM

                                                          I wonder if this coming week will be his week to go home. Would be embarrassing to be sent home before Cloris.....
                                                          Been reading some review on him on televisionwithoutpity.com .... not very nice things being said about his personality there. Bets seem fairly even between him and Cloris going bye bye

                                                          4 Replies
                                                          1. re: Firegoat
                                                            LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Oct 15, 2008 10:04 AM

                                                            So, it happened. The Roccster is gone before Cloris. I'm not surprised. Although I think she's not far behind.

                                                            1. re: LindaWhit
                                                              Firegoat RE: LindaWhit Oct 15, 2008 10:50 AM

                                                              Please let her be next.
                                                              Although I admit, I kind of quit caring about this season after Misty wrecked her achilles.

                                                              1. re: Firegoat
                                                                LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Oct 15, 2008 11:09 AM

                                                                I'm disappointed Misty's not in it either - she would have given Brooke Burke a good run for her money. Although I'd be surprised if Brooke doesn't win it all. (P.S. NO ONE should look that damn good after 4 kids!)

                                                                And I agree with Dee - Cloris's fan base is probably bigger than Rocco's. Or it was decided that she would be the "go to" vote on those websites that vote against popular opinion to try and screw up on and keep the bad dancers/singers/whatever on the reality shows. :-)

                                                              2. re: LindaWhit
                                                                d
                                                                Dee S RE: LindaWhit Oct 15, 2008 10:50 AM

                                                                I think Cloris has a bigger fan base watching the show than Rocco. She may be around for longer than you think! (Go Cloris!)

                                                                Not surprised to see him leave but was surprised it wasn't earlier!

                                                            2. Chew on That RE: rockycat Oct 15, 2008 10:57 AM

                                                              Poor Rocco, it seemed like he really tried hard and didn't want to leave.

                                                              Just curious...does being a talented chef mean you're bad at dancing? Any good dancers AND chefs out there? :)

                                                              1 Reply
                                                              1. re: Chew on That
                                                                DiningDiva RE: Chew on That Oct 21, 2008 04:25 PM

                                                                Rick Bayless can dance and has, in fact, taken part in some local celebrity dance events in Chicago. He can salsa pretty well :-)

                                                              Show Hidden Posts