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Why do we call G&Ts gin *and* tonics but VTs just vodka tonics?

tatamagouche Aug 23, 2008 10:43 AM

Some of us have too much time on our hands.

  1. alanbarnes Aug 23, 2008 11:00 AM

    It's the whole consonant-vowel-consonant thing. "Gin and tonic" rolls off the tongue; no double vowels. Same with "vodka tonic" But if you order a "vodka and tonic" you have to make a full stop before the "and." Which can be difficult at times.

    "I drink Asti Spumante until I can't pronounce it any more. Then I drink beer." - Benny Hill

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    1. re: alanbarnes
      tatamagouche Aug 23, 2008 01:05 PM

      Oh, I suppose you're right. It's the natural alternating stressed and unstressed syllables thing.

      I imagine this Q would have been more appropriate for a logophile's forum—but then, a good drink can foster all sorts of philias. As well as, yes, the inability to speak the words one loves.

      Edit: I mean natural in the English language, of course, although FCF's claim below complicates the theory.

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      FriedClamFanatic Aug 23, 2008 01:19 PM

      In the UK, I think they just say "Gin Tonic"

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      1. re: FriedClamFanatic
        MMRuth Aug 23, 2008 01:23 PM

        Is that the same as a "Gin and It"?

        1. re: MMRuth
          JMF Aug 23, 2008 01:59 PM

          No. Gin and It is gin and sweet vermouth.

          See this thread.


          1. re: JMF
            MMRuth Aug 24, 2008 06:50 AM

            Thanks - I thought after I posted that I should have searched!

        2. re: FriedClamFanatic
          wontonton Aug 25, 2008 01:30 PM

          In the UK, I've also heard "Whisky Soda".

          1. re: wontonton
            brendastarlet Aug 28, 2008 12:51 PM

            We call them V&Ts.

            For Man Men fans, I guess if Jimmy Barrett had a cocktail, it would be a Gin and Barrett.

        3. Alcachofa Aug 28, 2008 12:45 PM

          Because that way both follow the meter of "Caedmon's Hymn".

          1. Veggo Aug 28, 2008 01:09 PM

            My hypothesis is that gin and tonic got here first, in the days when we were wantonly and recklessly wasteful with our natural resources, including trees and paper. A VT is much more compact, and as it occurs in print, it will eventually spare the need for another page...and will save another tree. A VT is very PC.
            Next, we should obviate the use of the letter "u" following "Q's" , and save still more trees...:)

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            1. re: Veggo
              tatamagouche Sep 3, 2008 06:18 AM

              Well, now that there's Q tonic, you could just call a gin and tonic a GQ.

              1. re: tatamagouche
                Veggo Sep 3, 2008 06:28 AM

                GQ...very PC. Bartenders, take note of the VT ( Veggo-tatamagouche ) collaboration...

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