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the most pathetic excuse for a caprese...

wonderwoman Aug 14, 2008 10:23 AM

i've ever had was yesterday the new incarnation of soleil cafe in teele square.

the biggest problem was what passed for homemade foccicia, dry and flavorless; less than stellar tomatoes (inexcusable -- it's august), and barely any basil, and for the price, $7.25, rather small. far inferior, and more expensive, to what's available at true grounds and dave's.

i was so hoping this place would be great. sigh...

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    wilbanks RE: wonderwoman Aug 14, 2008 10:54 AM

    I am reminded of the old joke about a Grateful Dead concert: it was badly played, there were tons of mistakes, the song choices were terrible...and darn it, it was also too short.

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      wonderwoman RE: wilbanks Aug 14, 2008 11:52 AM

      LOL! i never heard that one. i mentioned the size only to illustrate that the problems were quantitative, as well as qualitative. i actually wound up leaving half on the plate, and i'm a charter member of the clean plate club.

    2. almansa RE: wonderwoman Aug 14, 2008 11:39 AM

      I don't doubt your report, but I will defend their bad tomatoes. It's been a terrible year. The farmer I use for tomatoes just harvested his first of the season, and it was only at my insistence.

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        SeaSide Tomato RE: almansa Aug 14, 2008 02:04 PM

        But I made the best Caprese I've ever had yesterday using garden tomatoes, of which I have an abundance--so not everyone's suffering. Just saying, as the resto ought to have their sources, not to be oppositional to you.

        But, then, of course, it was a seaside tomato, and that may have made al lthe difference. :)


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          ScubaSteve RE: almansa Aug 16, 2008 06:04 PM

          if you can't put stellar tomatoes on the plate in August then take the salad off the menu until you can.

        2. trufflehound RE: wonderwoman Aug 14, 2008 07:05 PM

          I can't say $7.25 is high for a Caprese. Fresh moz is $$$. On the other hand I have an abundance of super sweet golden cherry tomatoes but my Brandywines are rotting before they ripen. The Green Zebras aren't too bad and I have just a few red ones that I can't recal what they are.

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            smtucker RE: wonderwoman Aug 14, 2008 07:39 PM

            The heirloom tomato salad at Henrietta's Table the other day was amazing, and the tomatoes were local. The dish had five varieties of tomatoes with an infused feta which was rather astonishing.

            I harvested 6 lbs of tomatoes from my backyard garden yesterday, and it looks like I will have almost this much for the next two weeks. I planted Jet Star if it matters.

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              flyer1 RE: smtucker Aug 16, 2008 02:43 PM

              I have a very heavy harvest of various types of tomatoes this season, however I'm finding inconsistent degrees of sweetness/ ripeness...more so then in any other season and I have been doing this for 3 decades. I think the persistent rain at the precise moment that the are ripening is affecting quality.

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                wonderwoman RE: flyer1 Aug 16, 2008 03:38 PM

                okay, i get that they're problems with this year's tomato crop. but that doesn't explain or excuse the dry and flavorless bread, and barely noticeable presence of basil.

            2. pikawicca RE: wonderwoman Aug 16, 2008 03:42 PM

              Caprese salad has nothing to do with foccacia, good or otherwise.

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                flyer1 RE: pikawicca Aug 16, 2008 04:16 PM

                Caprese Salad in its true form is a showcase of ripe juicy tomatoes, fresh basil leaf, {preferably whole}, AND most importantly fresh Mozzarella di Bufala cheese. Anything else is an insult to the name...

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                  wonderwoman RE: pikawicca Aug 16, 2008 04:32 PM

                  yes, but a caprese sandwich does...

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                    flyer1 RE: wonderwoman Aug 16, 2008 05:21 PM

                    WW, I'm sorry, I was thinking more salad then sandwich...I just don't think of Caprese as a sandwich. Anyway, sounds like a lame and boring rendition.

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                      wonderwoman RE: flyer1 Aug 16, 2008 07:42 PM

                      nothing lame and boring about the ones at dave's fresh pasta and true grounds in ball square (where it's not called a caprese; you have to ask for a grilled cheese with fresh mozzarella, tomatoes, pesto, and, if they have it, rosemary-garlic bread).

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