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re: Caralien
Ok.. Home depot didn't have the quarry tiles or unglazed tiles that we needed.... however we found a Porcelain stone... which research indicates is the same thing however more dense.. the stone was supposedly unglazed like a flooring tile...
MY ISSUE : THE STONES developed some random burn lines in them during the pre heating process and we are unsure if we should use them with the pizza directly if not at all..
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Ok, this may be sacrilege and not up to purist standards, but we remodelled a bathroom a few years ago and had some leftover shower tiles. I use nine of them, on the lowest bottom shelf, for baking bread and pizza. Seems to work pretty decently ( I also mist my bread).
Cost.....nothing, Well, OK, $35,000 for the bathroom. Results? pretty darn good. Comments on my bread/pizza.......priceless!
They look pretty grungy now after multiple use, but who cares? i stack them in a out of the way place when not needed, and put them in (early) when i do.
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This is going back to several posts regarding pizza stones over the last few years. We are potters and use a kiln shelf for a pizza stone. You can get them at any pottery supply house (most large cities have them). They're available in many sizes, round decahedron and square. The materila is cordierite which is the same as many of the commericial stones. Very resistant to thermal shock, lower cost than commerials stones, available in several thicknesses. Can be ordered online from suppliers....just google "pottery supply" (your state abbreviation). They will need to be seasoned.
Tom Wirt
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re: coyotepots
What an excellent idea. I checked the website of a pottery supply place here in SF, and they carry a wide range of shapes and thicknesses. The prices are just a little bit lower; you can get a 5/8 inch thick stone for about the same price as a 1/2 inch at a kitchen place. But if you have a larger than standard oven and want more baking surface you might find just the right stone. I'll keep that in mind if my current stone breaks.
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All cooking stones crack eventually. Since my husband bakes bread and essentially tortures the stones (i.e., throwing glasses of water into the bottoms of 500 degree ovens -- it's a crust thang'), we moved to baking bricks. They are typical brick dimensions except that they are only a quarter of an inch thick. We bought 2 sets so that when one individual brick cracks, we just replace one from our stockpile.
We've found them at Sur La Table perhaps the most consistently of all cooking stores but have had trouble locating them in the past (we usually buy new ones when we move).
Since we have a gas oven (and boy does that suck), we keep the bricks in at all times, one set lines the bottom and the other is on the top rack which we can move down when we're baking. It gives us a more even temperature throughout the baking cycle.›12 Replies-
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re: MMRuth
I leave mine in the oven. The oven does indeed take longer to cool down, but I've never seen that as a problem and it sometimes works to my advantage. And I've not noticed that my oven is any hotter with the stone than it had been without. It does seem to retain heat more evenly (fewer hot spots) which is all to the good. I often freshen baked goods on the stone and will place some pies and tarts directly on the stone for baking since it ensures a wonderfully crisp bottom crust.
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re: MMRuth
It won't cause your oven to run warmer. The thermostat doesn't know what's in the oven. However, the stone will absorb some heat, so it will take a little longer for the oven to reach the set temperature. And in theory at least, it will release some heat when the burners cycle off, which, as Sebetti noted, reduces the variation of temperature, which is a good thing. Mine has been sitting on the bottom of the oven (actually 2 different ovens) for 4 or 5 years. Cover it with foil when you are not using it for baking to protect it from the random spill.
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re: MMRuth
Yes. I don't move it. I have a large Fibrament stone and it's rather heavy so I prefer not to lift it if I don't have to. I don't offhand recall a recipe that recommended a stone be placed in the upper third of the oven (never made naan), but I'm sure it's because the upper third of the oven is often hotter than the lower third. With the stone living on the floor of the oven, I think the heat distribution is more even making the upper or lower distinction somewhat less critical.
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I have two cheap ones I got at one of those cavernous el cheapo pottery places. They seem to work fine so far. I leave them in the oven all the time and never clean them (I have a double oven). I heat the oven up to the max (550) on convection roast, which takes about an hour, and then bake the pizzas, which takes about 4 minutes, and so far no problems.
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Personally I prefer the pampered chef stone line and I own almost all of them, once they are well seasoned which you simply cook on them to get them that way, they are wonderful, I use them almost exclusively. Before they are seasoned you simply brush them with a lil cooking oil of your choice. They are more expensive than target, but they have lifetime guarantees. I have broken one before, the first time i used one many years ago, before I knew how to cook, I didn't read the directions and preheated the stone in my oven and then placed a forzen pizza on top of it. Of course it broke, I sent it back and they replaced it, no questions asked. PS-If you don't want to go to a show, don't, get the website of a consultant and order online, will be delivered to your house and you don't have to host a show, go to a show, or listen to the sales pitch.
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re: Chris6331
I love them, but they break. It doesn't matter how much I spend for them -- the $10 ones break and the $50 ones break. I realize now that I may be cooking incorrectly with them. However, I would not spend large amounts of money for them and if you do, remove it from the oven, clean it and store it properly.
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I recently sprung for a Naturestone pizza stone, actually their griddle rather than their pizza stone, because it would handle pizza and could also be put over a grill or burner. It is a little thicker and doesn't offer as many sizes as their pizza stone, but their pizza stone is for oven use only, so I chose the griddle, which is very similar, but just a little thicker. I like it. My only complaint is that it was not cheap.
My old pizza stone worked well but always smoked, and I assumed it was just a piece of closeout junk, since I found it for $10 at Tuesday Morning. It may have been caused by the seasoning process that was included with the instructions. I threw it out after the smoke alarms went off the last time I used it. So for me, the Naturestone works great, in spite of the price. I have heard raves about the Pampered Chef stone, but I don't want to get involved going to these parties.
So yes, I think there are differences. If you want a pizza stone only, the Naturestone pizza stone is beautiful and has a handle that is decorative. If you want something heavier and like a decorative handle, or something you can cook with on other heat sources including a burner or outdoor grill, go with the griddle stone. It is probably also worth finding someone who is going to a Pampered Chef party to get one of their pizza stones, from what I hear. It also costs a fraction of Naturestone.
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re: janzy
We have several pieces of the Pampered Chef stone ware (jelly roll, flat rectangle, flat round, bread loaf, baking dish and the pizza stone) . All have performed really well, except for the pizza stone, which cracked during cooking (fortunately the pizza held together long enough to rescue without trashing the oven). We typically use the flats for traditional thin-crust pizza, and the jelly roll pan for thick crust pan-style pizza.
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