545688 Tue Aug 05 06:53:29 -0700 2008 17 31 Home Cooking 0 3931034 I just bought a new 6 quart dutch oven that I thought I would christen on an upcoming camping trip. Any tips or favorite recipes to share with a Dutch oven novice? I know there are lots of posts on the home cooking board for Dutch oven cooking that I intend to explore, but I was hoping for any specific advice you might offer a nervous beginner... Do you use charcoal or can you cook over wood? Any other favorite camping recipes welcome, too. Thank you muchly! ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 06:53:30 -0700 2008 12005 The Dairy Queen 1 3931115 TDQ, Wanted to get you rolling. I'll check my old Boy Scout resources tonight but a Google of "Boy Scout dutch oven recipes" yielded: http://www.scoutorama.com/recipe/ Just a note: The outdoor Dutch Oven difers in construction from the indoor. It has feet on the bottom and a lip on the lid. The lip is to hold the coals on the lid...You shovel hot coals onto the lid to ensure complete heating. You can certainly cook over wood, but let the fire burn down to coals, so that you have smallish coals for the lid. If anyone can get their hands on a Boy Scout Field Guide, you'll be in good shape. "A long-in-the-tooth Eagle Scout" Tue Aug 05 07:25:23 -0700 2008 3931034 56780 Monch 2 3931843 Great info, thank you. But, now I think I don't have the right kind of D.O... There is no way to convert an "indoor" oven for outdoor use, eh? Seems a shame. ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 11:14:00 -0700 2008 3931115 12005 The Dairy Queen 1 3931383 Could you describe this DO more? What's the diameter? Most camp cooking recipes specify the size, such as 10", 12" etc. Size determines how much charcoal you use. Does it have legs, or a stand? How a rimmed lid? Is it seasoned? You many need flames to get a rolling boil, but baking requires coals. Skilled users make a separate fire pit, and then shovel coals into place under the DO and on top. But charcoal briquettes are easier for the novice. A common rule of thumb is 2 times the diameter of the DO (e.g. 20 for a 10"), placing more on top than below. Here's a relatively new forum for camp cooking, including DO use http://www.camp-cook.com/forum/ Tue Aug 05 08:53:00 -0700 2008 3931034 12139 paulj 2 3931816 Oh my, I had no idea. Uh...maybe it can't be used for outdoor use. It's one of the Lodge Dutch ovens like this one. http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-Enameled-Cast-Iron-6-Quart-Caribbean/dp/B000N4WN08/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1217959573&sr=8-3 Not seasoned. No legs, no stand. Would you consider that a rimmed limmed? Should I give up on using this Dutch Oven and get an "outdoor" one better suited to the purpose? ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 11:07:55 -0700 2008 3931383 12005 The Dairy Queen 3 3931910 TDQ, I'm desperately afraid you'll ruin that. Please see: http://www.dutchovencookware.com/dutch-oven-campware.html Tue Aug 05 11:34:04 -0700 2008 3931816 56780 Monch 4 3933162 I fear you might be right... I'm so disappointed, ! I might have to buy one of the cast iron ones instead... I should have done some more research, I guess. ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 18:24:39 -0700 2008 3931910 12005 The Dairy Queen 3 3931960 It is possible to set any pan over coals using some sort of stand, whether a metal one designed for the purpose, or bricks or a grating. But to bake in it you need coals on top, and for that you want a relatively flat lid with some sort of raised rim. Lodge describes these as 'camp ovens'. Usually camp ovens are plain cast iron. I haven't seen any discussion as to whether enamel case iron would work or not. I don't think I've ever seen enameled ware with legs and rimmed lid. However enameled steel has been used over campfires for years (e.g the blue speckled ware distributed by Coleman and GSI). Tue Aug 05 11:46:38 -0700 2008 3931816 12139 paulj 4 3933165 Hmmm...I think I may abandon this project with this particular Dutch oven and wait until I acquire the appropriate equipment. Thank you for all of the feedback everyone! ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 18:26:48 -0700 2008 3931960 12005 The Dairy Queen 3 3932515 You're a victim of modern English. Originally, Dutch ovens were made to pretend to be an oven. Believe William Safire once did a column saying it also meant "false," as also in getting invited out on a "Dutch" date. The Dutch Ovens were for cooking indoors in fireplaces. They were very useful to early American settlers who didn't have real ovens. Most of them had three legs and lids with a rim, allowing hot coals to be placed both beneath them and on top, thus baking whatever was inside. But they also used them for making stews, etc., usually by hanging them on a hook over the fire. When Americans finally began to get stoves, they still liked those old pots, and wanted them without legs so that they could cook with them on stovetop, where they also did not need the rimmed lid. So, manufacturers began making them without legs and the lids without rims. They continued to call them Dutch Ovens, even though they could no longer be used for their original purpose. Tue Aug 05 14:33:57 -0700 2008 3931816 159948 Potomac Bob 3 3932748 grab up three equal sized rocks that have a flat-ish side and use those for legs, and plenty of heavy duty aluminum foil rolled up the sides and formed on the lid for holding coals on top. The recipes will have to come from someone else -- I only know how to do apple dump cake on a campfire. Tue Aug 05 15:52:14 -0700 2008 3931816 50613 weezycom 4 3933144 MMMMM...apple dump cake... ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 18:18:23 -0700 2008 3932748 12005 The Dairy Queen 1 3931894 I have a very fond memory of making one pot lasagna at camp as a child. Noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce, cheese... mmm! When camping I like to make the summer camp classics. To avoid the hassle of boiling noodles I cook them in advance and put them in a bag in the cooler. 1lb spaghetti 1lb ground beef 1lb velveeta 1 large can of whole cooked tomatoes, chopped 1 medium onion chopped Cook ground beef, then drain. Add onion to beef and cook until onions are tender, add tomatoes, noodles and velveeta (in chunks) and let the cheese melt. This produces a large amount of food and is cheap! Tue Aug 05 11:29:32 -0700 2008 3931034 139194 lhb78 2 3933153 Now, see, that's the kind of wonderful camp chow I had in mind! Great recipe, thank you! ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 18:22:15 -0700 2008 3931894 12005 The Dairy Queen 1 3933082 There are regional dutch oven societies that have instructional classes and gatherings http://www.idos.com/Chapters/tabid/71/Default.aspx Groups that are interested in colonial and pioneer life may offer demonstrations as well. This weekend there's a demo in the Rochester MN area http://forums.idos.org/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=16351 Sporting megastores like Cabelas and Sportsman Warehouse also carry this equipment Tue Aug 05 17:56:31 -0700 2008 3931034 12139 paulj 2 3933150 WOW! I think I have to join a dutch oven society! Awesome, thank you! ~TDQ Tue Aug 05 18:20:59 -0700 2008 3933082 12005 The Dairy Queen 1 3933366 Here's a site that I found on Chowhound a few years ago that I saved. Looks very helpfull. http://papadutch.home.comcast.net/~papadutch/ Tue Aug 05 19:35:13 -0700 2008 3931034 13550 King of Northern Blvd 1 3933427 I made onions stuffed with ground turkey, hominy, cornbread, and chipotle over the 4th of July for a camping trip from a recipe I got on epicurious. The prep work at home took a little time, but once we were at the campsite, it couldn't have been easier. They cook right in the coals, and there's no cleanup except for throwing away the aluminum foil. And most importantly, they taste fantastic http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/COAL-ROASTED-CHUCKBOX-POZOLE-STUFFED-ONIONS-1240091 Tue Aug 05 20:05:23 -0700 2008 3931034 182589 bex109